OK, off the top I'll admit I'm not exactly related to any SAPPs, but my daughter got married in January, and since I gave her a family tree from my side as a wedding present, I'm honor bound to do the groom's side as well. Here's what I know so far: John E. SAPP (b. abt 1869 in IL, parents unknown) m. Carrie MARSHALL (b. abt 1884 in IL, parents unknown), date unknown, but before 1915. Children - Carl SAPP b. abt 1915 in IL Roy SAPP b. abt Sep 1916 in IL Elbert Paul SAPP b 10 May 1920 in Delafield, Hamilton, Illinois, d. 26 Apr 1997 in Stafford, Stafford, Virginia. Elbert Paul SAPP m. Helen Spence BRIZENDINE (b. 21 Nov 1921 in DuQuoin IL, d. 23 Feb 1990, daughter of Clarence BRIZENDINE b. Jan 1880 in Champaign Co., IL and Jenny SPENCE) 16 Apr 1949. Children 4 LIVING I found Clarence BRIZENDINE in Ancestral File and am still working on documenting that line. So far I have confirmation in the 1920 census Springfield, Sangamon Co., IL, with Clarence asserting he and his parents came from TN. His wife and her sister living with them both came from MS, as did their parents. I found John E. SAPP, wife Carrie M. and sons Carl and Roy in the 1920 census Hamilton Co. IL Dahlgren Twp. #4, with several SAPPs in IL, but none in the same county. None of the other families are of an age to be John E. SAPP's parents. John said he was born in IL, but both his parents came from TN. The couple appears without children in the 1910 census, Hamilton Co., IL. If anyone here sounds familiar, please drop me a line. My co-mother-in-law has supplied some information, but I'm all the way across the country from her and her family, so interviewing is difficult. Thanks! Victoria L. Sullivan vlsulliv@jps.net