I have mentioned it before, but bears mentioning again. I have census index CD's for 1850-1870 for GA if anyone needs a look-up, and I have have both marriage CD's for GA, and the SSDI CD's up to 1993. Just drop me a note.-Bill

Hi Marge, thanks for the info on the immigration of the Sapp family. I have always just assumed our branch of the family (GA) just came from NC. But they had to come from somewhere before that. I don't have a clue as to the origins of the SAPP name, have heard several, but nothing definite. My Henry SAPP, b ca 1785 in Burke Co., GA, would have to be related to one of them. ( There must be a hundred Henry's before 1800) Does anyone have any links to any that Marge mentions, or does anyone have other information on where in Europe they came from. Were there other Sapp family arrivals from Europe? The LDS folks seem to think the name has Celtic origins.-Bill

This experience exactly parallels the experience of the the English Puritans (Pilgrims) who settled at Plymouth. The Pilgrims went to Holland for religious freedom and left for America when their children were becoming Dutch culturally. Do you think that a part of the group came to a part of America other than Plymouth? BTW, I assume you are part of the family that owns the Sapp Bros. truck stops in Nebraska (the ones with the big coffee pot on the roof). Lee Murrah (of the Georgia branch of the family) At 01:04 PM 10/12/97 -0400, you wrote: >I am submitting this to the list in hopes that it might reach someone who has >heard a similar tradition. We are of the Nebraska branch of the Sapp family. > I have also submitted this to Robert F. Sapp to add to his website if he >thinks it would be of help. BTW for those of you who have not found this >great site, you should look. It is: > > http://members.aol.com/sapps/genpg/index.html > >I obtained this story from my cousin Craig Svaboda of Manito, Illinois, with >permission to pass it to you on the internet. I hope it will perhaps bring >out other traditions or furnish a lead to the origin of the Sapp family. > >Our relationship to John Sapp (1640)* is through the line of George W. Sapp b >1840 in Portage Co., OH and who moved to Brownsville, Nemaha, NE and then to >Techumseh, Johnson, NE> >Isaac Sapp b 1809 Cumberland, Allegany, MD> >John Sapp b abt 1786 Cumberland, Allegany, MD> >Henry Sapp b abt 1766 of Allegany Co. MD> >George Sapp b abt 1705 of Kent Co. Delaware> >John Sapp b abt 1675 of Allegany Co, MD> >John Sapp b abt 1640 of Allegany Co, MD* > >The following is the story told to Dr. Svaboda by his grandfather, Walter R. >Sapp of Techumsech, NE : >" "My grandfather (Walter R. Sapp) and his brothers related a story to me of >our origins several years ago which stated that the Sapp family originated in >England but that following the development of religious intolerance to their >beliefs, the family moved to the Netherlands to pursue their long-standing >trade as carpenters. According to this story, the family lived in Holland >for several years and accumulated a sum of money from the development of a >unique wood milling apparatus. The head of the family reportedly became >upset that their children were growing up as Dutch speaking and thinking >peorple and forsaking their native culture and so made the decision to sell >out and move to America by way of England. According to Walter, the family >that moved to America at that time consisted primarily of 3 brothers who used >their pooled moneys to purchase a shipload of fine woods and sold these in >America to obtain their initial grubstake which they then used to buy land >and establish themselves. Also, according to my grandfather (Walter R. >Sapp), the original Sapps were reported to have found work building the early >plantation homes of the old South." > >I hope that his is of help to someone. If it furnishes any leads, I hope >that someone will let me know. > >Marge Mickelson Sapp >IRPotter@aol.com > >PO Box 303 >Laramie, WY > M. Lee Murrah, Cedar Rapids, IA <bold>Email: </bold>murrah@bigfoot.com <bold>Alt: </bold>mlmurrah@sprynet.com <bold>Alt: </bold>lee@murrah.com <bold>Web Page: </bold>http://www.murrah.com/ <bold>Interests: </bold>Genealogy; computers; history; books; early country, blues and jazz music; biking; Jeeping; ballroom dance

I am submitting this to the list in hopes that it might reach someone who has heard a similar tradition. We are of the Nebraska branch of the Sapp family. I have also submitted this to Robert F. Sapp to add to his website if he thinks it would be of help. BTW for those of you who have not found this great site, you should look. It is: http://members.aol.com/sapps/genpg/index.html I obtained this story from my cousin Craig Svaboda of Manito, Illinois, with permission to pass it to you on the internet. I hope it will perhaps bring out other traditions or furnish a lead to the origin of the Sapp family. Our relationship to John Sapp (1640)* is through the line of George W. Sapp b 1840 in Portage Co., OH and who moved to Brownsville, Nemaha, NE and then to Techumseh, Johnson, NE> Isaac Sapp b 1809 Cumberland, Allegany, MD> John Sapp b abt 1786 Cumberland, Allegany, MD> Henry Sapp b abt 1766 of Allegany Co. MD> George Sapp b abt 1705 of Kent Co. Delaware> John Sapp b abt 1675 of Allegany Co, MD> John Sapp b abt 1640 of Allegany Co, MD* The following is the story told to Dr. Svaboda by his grandfather, Walter R. Sapp of Techumsech, NE : " "My grandfather (Walter R. Sapp) and his brothers related a story to me of our origins several years ago which stated that the Sapp family originated in England but that following the development of religious intolerance to their beliefs, the family moved to the Netherlands to pursue their long-standing trade as carpenters. According to this story, the family lived in Holland for several years and accumulated a sum of money from the development of a unique wood milling apparatus. The head of the family reportedly became upset that their children were growing up as Dutch speaking and thinking peorple and forsaking their native culture and so made the decision to sell out and move to America by way of England. According to Walter, the family that moved to America at that time consisted primarily of 3 brothers who used their pooled moneys to purchase a shipload of fine woods and sold these in America to obtain their initial grubstake which they then used to buy land and establish themselves. Also, according to my grandfather (Walter R. Sapp), the original Sapps were reported to have found work building the early plantation homes of the old South." I hope that his is of help to someone. If it furnishes any leads, I hope that someone will let me know. Marge Mickelson Sapp IRPotter@aol.com PO Box 303 Laramie, WY

Just a possible "further back" place to look for you southern Sapps. The line I'm interested in was never in GA, they are in Boone Co Missouri, but they did spend a short time in Bourbon Co Kentucky circa 1820. Prior to that they were in Kent Co Delaware. Though this family (Levi Sapp and Traney/Trana Williams and 6 kids) obviously is not "your" family, maybe one of Levi's unknown brothers is "your" ancestor. Levi was born 5 Mar 1775 (Kent Co DE), son of Ephraim Sapp who died 1807 (also Kent Co DE). I've not had time to do any Delaware research on this line, as I'm focusing on a different line at the moment, but wanted to pass on my "new idea" of a possible place your Georgia people might have come from. -- Kathryn Rhinehart Bassett (Pasadena CA) kathrynb@ix.netcom.com "genealogy is my bag" "GH is my soap" ac948@lafn.org is permanent alternate address if 1st gets closed for some reason. No need for duplicate messages. ----------------------------Forwarded Message-------------------------------- Hi Guys & Gals, I have only been at this genealogy thing for about seven years, since mom died, so I am still learning how to find family roots. I have noticed that for about the last five years, I have been seeing mostly the same info passed from one to another. There is always new info, recent would probably be a better word, but we seem to hit a wall beyond about 1800. I have been trying to link my oldest Sapp for seven years! Is there no more info that will let us link our families? One of the things that is abundantly clear, genealogist, new are experienced, are a determined lot. There is no limit to the resourcefulness used in finding family links to our past. My biggest problem, without exception, is that all my ancestors come from a 4-5 county area in GA. They never moved to other states, some even today reside within a few miles of the original settlers in GA. Some would say that 'Hey, that is great, find one, find them all!', but find none, find none of them. We need to get our collective thinking together and try to find a way to dig out these links. Mitchell, publishes the Sapp Family Association Newsletter, probably has the largest database of us Sapp collectors. He has given freely of his info, but again, at about 1800, we see the same info over and over. I have quite a large database, mostly collected by others and shared with me. The data I have from OH, NC and VA, for some reason, ends about the same 1800 period time. Is the info just not available, and we will wander in the land of missing data forever? I think we are missing the boat, haven't looked at what we have correctly, not looked at the right data or something! I apologize for taking up all your time, but we need to do something different, or at least I do, what I'm doing now just isn't getting the links out. Please feel free to jump in anytime, I'm just the janitor here.-Bill

Hi Guys & Gals, I have only been at this genealogy thing for about seven years, since mom died, so I am still learning how to find family roots. I have noticed that for about the last five years, I have been seeing mostly the same info passed from one to another. There is always new info, recent would probably be a better word, but we seem to hit a wall beyond about 1800. I have been trying to link my oldest Sapp for seven years! Is there no more info that will let us link our families? One of the things that is abundantly clear, genealogist, new are experienced, are a determined lot. There is no limit to the resourcefulness used in finding family links to our past. My biggest problem, without exception, is that all my ancestors come from a 4-5 county area in GA. They never moved to other states, some even today reside within a few miles of the original settlers in GA. Some would say that 'Hey, that is great, find one, find them all!', but find none, find none of them. We need to get our collective thinking together and try to find a way to dig out these links. Mitchell, publishes the Sapp Family Association Newsletter, probably has the largest database of us Sapp collectors. He has given freely of his info, but again, at about 1800, we see the same info over and over. I have quite a large database, mostly collected by others and shared with me. The data I have from OH, NC and VA, for some reason, ends about the same 1800 period time. Is the info just not available, and we will wander in the land of missing data forever? I think we are missing the boat, haven't looked at what we have correctly, not looked at the right data or something! I apologize for taking up all your time, but we need to do something different, or at least I do, what I'm doing now just isn't getting the links out. Please feel free to jump in anytime, I'm just the janitor here.-Bill

I received the following message regarding my previous post. Others requested I post this response. I hope it helps. Michael << I have several Darling Sapps in my database, including: Darling Sapp b 25 Dec 1849 Big Muddy, Taylor Co, FL. He m 3 Mar 1872 Emiline Richardson b 22 Jun 1850 Clark, Coffee Co, AL Darling was the son of Darling Sapp b 1818 GA and Elizabeth Thornton b 1818 GA. Darling 1818 was the son of John Sapp. Both John Sapp and another Darling Sapp were found in Leon Co FL in the censuses of 1825, 1830 and 1840. John had another son, James Jackson Sapp (my wife's line). Darling and Emiline's children were: Manda Ann 1870 Lizzie 1873 Polly 1874 Elizabeth 1875 Lillie Ann 1876 Margaret 1878 Ida 1879 W. S. "Mattie" 1881 James Henry 1884 Ferdinand A. 1887 Christopher Columbus 1887 Andrew Marion (Reverend) 1890 Albert L. 1895 Mandy M. 1900 It looks like there may be some duplication in some of these names, and I don't have good solid documentation on most of them. I don't have Ellen Elizabeth Sapp in my database, but she could be either the Lizzie or the Elizabeth listed above. Your Darling was buried in the Carlton Cemetery in Taylor Co FL, and the tombstone reads: 25 Dec 1849 - 28 Mar 1926, h/o Emaline Richardson; s/o Darling & Elizabeth Sapp; Member of Capt William Wilson Strickland's Co D, 2nd Fla Cav, Union Army (note: many of the Taylor Co young men were in the Union Army in the Civil War - JEM) Emiline's tombstone read: 1850 - 21 Apr 1940 There was also a Darling Sapp b abt 1760 lived in GA. He was a Revolutionary War veteran, I think. I suspect all these Darlings were related, but we can't prove it. The story goes the earliest one was the son of a Mr Sapp who married a Miss Darlington, in SC I think. Good searching, John >>

This is one of the things under consideration with the lists, just to help protect the information and to help resolve the problems with unsolicited mail. Nothing happening very soon. Send any commments directly to me.-Bill <wbouline@newnorth.net> ---------- > Subject: Looking for a few lists to archive > Date: Tuesday, October 07, 1997 4:05 PM > > > If you (and your list) are interested in participating in a list > archives on the web testing period, please drop me a line. > > Requirements, you have to be: > > * the listowner > > * willing to have your list's messages made available on the > web. > > * provide feedback on the look and feel of the archives > *************************************************************** Before all lists are invited to participate, there will be a > username/password mechanism to prevent access from the archives. It > will then be up to each listowner to decide whether to make the list > archives open or not. > > -marc > -- >

Still looking for my long lost Sapp family member who started this line: Descendants of Patience Sapp 1 Patience SAPP b: Abt 1775 . +Jonathan WEST b: Bef 1765 d: 1841-1849 in Madison Co., KY. . 2 Luke WEST b: 1794-1796 Madison Co., KY. d: November 1841 in Madison Co., KY. ..... +Martha PARISH b: 1801 Madison Co., KY d: Aft 1884 in Possibly Mo. ..... 3 Catherine WEST b: Abt 1819 Madison Co, KY. ......... +John JAMES b: Abt 1815 ..... 3 James WEST b: Abt 1820 Madison Co, KY. ..... 3 Westley W. WEST b: Abt 1821 Madison Co, KY. ......... +Tabitha RICHARDSON b: 1820 Kentucky ..... 3 William WEST b: Abt 1823 ......... +Eliza Ann BURGIN ..... 3 Patience Ann WEST b: Abt 1825 Madison Co, KY. ......... +Anderson KENNEDY ..... 3 Martha Jane WEST b: Abt 1827 Madison Co, KY. ......... +Erasmus POWELL ..... 3 Madison WEST b: Abt 1830 Madison Co, KY. ......... +Betsy J. KENNEDY b: 1839 ..... 3 Julia Ann WEST b: Abt 1831 Madison Co, KY. ..... 3 Harriet WEST b: Abt 1835 Madison Co, KY. ......... +William H. WILSON ..... 3 Nancy WEST b: Abt 1837 Madison Co, KY. . 2 Hester WEST b: 1794-1800 Madison Co., KY. ..... +Richard DAVIS . 2 Mary WEST b: Abt 1795 Madison Co., KY. d: August 1851 in Madison Co., KY. ..... +? WEST ..... 3 Lucy Ann WEST b: Abt 1813 Madison Co., KY d: Abt 1846 in Madison Co., KY ......... +Killian C. BERRY b: Abt May 30, 1808 Madison Co. KY d: October 7, 1883 in Hardin Twp, Clinton Co., MO ..... 3 John M. WEST b: 1818-1820 Madison County, KY. d: Abt 1897 in Platte Co. ?, MO. ......... +Mary GROOMS b: April 24, 1824 Kentucky, Madison Co. d: November 20, 1912 in Edgerton, Platte Co., MO. ..... 3 Angelina WEST b: 1821 Madison Co., KY. d: Bef 1902 in Paradise, MO. ......... +George W. ANDERSON b: March 13, 1812 Madison Cnty, KY d: February 1, 1886 in Paradise Cem ..... 3 Heather Ellen WEST b: Abt May 26, 1825 KY d: 1902-1909 ......... +Green Berry ANDERSON b: 1819 d: September 26, 1887 in Edgerton ..... 3 Luke M. WEST b: January 24, 1828 Madison Cnty, KY d: July 26, 1909 in Buchanan ?, Platte Cnty ? ......... +Martha Ellen GROOMS b: March 15, 1827 KY d: January 27, 1912 in Edgerton, Platte, MO ..... 3 William Ernest WEST, Sr. b: April 18, 1833 Madison Co., KY d: June 8, 1883 in 2nd Creek, Platte Co., MO. ......... +Mary Ann Belle THOMPSON d: October 1885 . *2nd Husband of Mary West: ..... +James KENNEDY . 2 ? WEST b: Abt 1797 Madison Co., KY. . 2 ? WEST b: Abt 1801 Madison Co., KY. . 2 ? WEST b: Abt 1803 Madison Co., KY.

I posted the following in a few places. Other than scraps of paper, I have no proof of John William Sapp's birthdate and place; he may have been born elsewhere (Indiana?). John William Sapp Madison Co., OH>IN>NE>MI; 1836 - 1922 John William Sapp, b. 25-Mar-1836 Madison Co., OH, d. 10- Apr-1922 Big Rapids, MI, m. 13-Oct-1855 New Castle, IN; to Teressa Ellen Rogers, b. ? d. 10-Mar-1910. At least 4 sons & 1 daughter (George R., John Wesley, Sue Mabel). Sons all probably born in New Castle. More info available. Want to know parents, siblings, and children of John and Teressa. Any other info appreciated. Also, I have family tree data and a Civil War memory of John William Sapp posted at http://users.aol.com/mnsapp. Regards, Mike Sapp

Looking for information regarding the parents of the following: Darling Sapp 1845-1926 died in Taylor County, FL married to Emaline Richardson 1850-1940 Ellen Elizabeth Sapp dates unknown died in Taylor County, FL married to Robert Jack Woods dates unknown parents of Nancy Jane Woods b. 1878 d. 1963 in Taylor County, FL I know that Ellen and Darling are related. I just don't know how. Thanks, Michael

In the 1820 census for Tattnal Co., GA I show: pp.120? entry 303-Henry Sapp, m<10, m10-15, m>45,2f<10, f10-15, f26-44. pp.121? entry 324-Luke Sapp, 2m<10, 2m10-15, m26-45, f10-15, f26-44. entry 327-J.S. Sapp, m<10, m16-25, m26-44, f<10, 2f10-15, f16-25, f>45. Could anyone give me a clue or hazard a guess as to how they may be related or who their parents were.-Bill

Has anyone ever found any links to other Sapps from GA/SC/NC/VA with this couple that died in Twiggs Co., GA?-Bill Individual Summary - 6 Oct 1997 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- Name: Henry SAPP Sex: Male Father: John SAPP (abt 1718-)(unproven) Mother: Individual Facts Birth abt 1738 in NC? (unproven) Death1 29 Oct 1829 in Twiggs Co., GA (age 91) Marriages/Children 1. Remilson2 Marriage abt 1764 in NC? (age 26)(unproven) Notes 1. Historical Collections of Georgia, pp. 656. 2. Henry and wife both died the same day. Sources William L. Boulineau Antigo, WI <wbouline@newnorth.net>

excerpts from The Reconstructed 1790 Census of Georgia, compiled by Marie De Lamar & Elisabeth Rothstein, by Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc. 1985. Burke County, GA Headright Grants 1790-1795: Sapp, Caleb Sapp, Darling Sapp, Jasper Sapp, Shadrock(sic) Anyone have any help on these SAPPS?-Bill

Burke Co., GA Marriages 1855 - 1879 ODUM,James P./ SAPP,Matilda / 24 Feb 1864 PERKINS,David M./ SAPP,Sarah Ann / 27 May 1858 ROWLS,Hezekiah / SAPP,Cameral Zimon / 30 Jul 1863 SAPP,Enos / ELLIOT,Mary / 24 Feb 1856 SAPP,Seaborn/ SCARBOUGH,Narcissa/ 13 Nov 1857 SAPP,Peter / BOSTICK,Jane / 27 May 1866 SAPP,Solomon / HANKERSON,Esther / 29 Dec 1866 SAPP,Madison/ LEWIS,Edney / 2 Jun 1867 SAPP,Henderson / CHANDLER,Deana / 7 Sep 1867 SAPP,Allen / SHEWMAKER,Janny / 19 Dec 1867 SAPP,John / SAPP,Mary / 14 Jun 1868 SAPP,Henderson / SAPP,Jane / 28 Jan 1869 SAPP,Minock / ROBERTS,Lizzie / 28 Mar 1869 SAPP,Jones / NESMITH,Kitty / 30 Dec 1869 WARD,Henry C./ SAPP,Caroline E./ 22 Aug 1867 WHITEHEAD,Augustus / SAPP,Harriet / 3 Jan 1869 Does anyone have any info on any of these SAPPS from Burke Co.?-Bill

I'll still be here, looking for my SAPPs, John!! Thanks! Carol At 04:30 PM 10/3/97 -0400, John E. Mellick wrote: >To Carol, > >We're going to miss you, you've been a great help. See you on some other lists. > >To Bill, > >Gongratulations, and good luck. With your energy, let the good times roll! > >John > >At 12:48 PM 10/3/97 -0500, you wrote: >>Cousins, >> >>Bill Boulineau, <wbouline@newnorth.net>, a SAPP researcher who published the >>SAPP newsletter, has agreed to be your new listowner!! This is exciting >>news for all the cousins on this list - you are all wonderful folks, and I >>know the list will benefit greatly from his leadership! >> >>Carol >> >> >> >Looking for odds and ends: "Odd Balls and Dead Ends" >John E. Mellick, 1105 Old Parsonage Drive, Merritt Island FL, 32952 >ph 407/453-4104 e-mail mellick@cape.net > >

Cousins, Bill Boulineau, <wbouline@newnorth.net>, a SAPP researcher who published the SAPP newsletter, has agreed to be your new listowner!! This is exciting news for all the cousins on this list - you are all wonderful folks, and I know the list will benefit greatly from his leadership! Carol

Anyone have any help for the young lady?-Bill ---------- > From: Maria Davis <mdavis@teclink.net> > To: wbouline@newnorth.net > Subject: Sapp Genealogy > Date: Tuesday, September 23, 1997 7:57 PM > > After visiting your web site and looking at your Sapp line I wonder if > maybe we > are related. > > My name is Maria Davis. I live in Mississippi. My 3rd great grandmother > was > Allie Elizabeth Sapp. Her parents were Jessie (Jesse) and Martha Sapp who > I have traced to Georgia. Jessie and Martha both died in Jasper County, Ms. > they also had a son named Jason Sapp who married Matilda Davis. > > Do any of these names sound familiar? Do you have any other info on > Jessie Sapp? I have that he was born c 1775. Any info would certainly be > appreciated. > > Thanks, > > Maria Davis > mdavis@teclink.net

I'm just starting to trace the Sapp lineage in my family, but will post what I have. If it is helpful to someone (I hope) that's great. If anyone sees a familiar name, please let me know. William Sapp (5/22/1837 - 10/14/1874) married Lucy Harrison (5/22/1834 - 12/6/1908). Their son, Joseph L. Sapp (6/1/1865) married Lydia Malone (1/27/1865 - 12/2/1920). Lydia's parents were Isaac Malone (? - cir 1887) and Eunice Haynes (/ - cir 1887). Joseph and Lydia had 6 children; 1. William I. Sapp (9/6/1894 - 10/14/1894) 2. Edward Franklin Sapp (12/26/1895 - 4/1/1919) 3. Mabel C. Sapp (11/4/1897 - 9/19/1977) married Ernest M. Metcalf (4/26/1896 - 8/2/1941) on 11/4/1916. They had 5 children; a. Herbert J. Metcalf (10/21/1917 - ?) b. Dewey E. Metcalf (2/21/1919 - ) c. Robert E. Metcalf (9/14/921 - 3/5/1990) d. Loretta G. Metcalf (1/31/1924 - ) e. Ernest M. Metcalf (2/4/1928 - 7/7/1990) 4. Dora E. Sapp (12/14/1899 - 6/10/1972) married Curtis E. Stanley (7/9/1896 - 8/25/1984) on 8/30/1915. They had 4 children; a. Orville C. Stanley (1/14/1916 - 4/6/1918) b. Helen Louise Stanley (6/14/1918 - ) married Norman Harvey Jones (3/12/1918 - 3/22/1984). c. Donald L. Stanley (10/11/1920 - ) d. Hazel I. Stanley (2/18/1925 - ) married Robert Crouse. 5. Joseph H. Sapp (4/26/1901 - ?) married Martha L. Cecil (? - ?) on 8/20/1896. They had three children; a. Harry J. Sapp (?) b. Carolyn Sapp (?) c. Donald Sapp (?) 6. Edith M. Sapp (7/30/1902 - 12/31/1929) married John Batchelder (5/14/1895 - 8/30/1956) on 12/13/1918. They had five children; a. Herbert Batchelder (?) b. John Batchelder (?) c. Lester Batchelder (?) d. James Batchelder (?) e. Etta Mae Batchelder (?) James and Etta Mae may have been twins. Larry Jones LDEAA@aol.com

Cousins, Hope all of you are having a successful search!! As always, if you get multiple copies of this post, that means you are on more than one of the lists I manage - the posts are identical, so delete all but this one. PLEASE READ this one!! If you have genealogy/local history books you no longer need and would like to sell, if you are a part of a local historical society that has materials for sale, or if you are looking for some new materials, you might enjoy one of the Gen-Mat lists at this server. To join, send SUBSCRIBE in the message part of a post to GEN-MAT-L-request@rootsweb.com or to GEN-MAT-15-L-request@rootsweb.com (the list for materials/services priced $15 or under). If, while you are researching your ancestors, you encounter plantation information - slave data - in wills, deeds, or other documents, please send it to SLAVEINFO-L@rootsweb.com so that African-American cousins who are seeking their ancestors might have a better chance of success. If you have a copyrighted book with such info and are willing to do lookups, please post that fact to the list, also. Some of you sent data a few months ago when I was planning to have a website for that purpose, but this will be even better, I think, since the archives of that list can be accessed by those who want the information. Any of you who might also want to join that list can do so by sending SUBSCRIBE in the message part of a post to SLAVEINFO-L-request@rootsweb.com The genealogy lists are only going to work for us if we POST, POST, POST........... Send ALL the information you know about the ancestor you are trying to find when you post a query. Use a very clear subject line so that a cousin will not delete your post without reading it because she thinks it does not relate to her. If you find data that you think others on the list might want to see, post it - maybe someone will do the same for you about your ancestor! If you have a resource and are willing to do lookups for the cousins on your list, post that fact to the list. Maybe a cousin on the list will do lookups in a book that mentions your ancestor. If you think of a good way for those of us on a list to work together on a project, suggest it to the list, volunteer to help with it - if we all use our talents and our effort to work together, we will find more ancestors. I see this happening on a couple of small lists and on one large list, and much progress is being made on all three! These are OUR lists for finding OUR ancestors, and they will only be as productive as we make them. REMINDER - If you have not sent your snailmail address to me (privately, of course), please do so in case you go offline and a cousin wants to contact you about your ancestor. Use the subject line SNAILMAIL. Also - if you need to contact me about anything having to do with the list you are on, please use my name - CAROL - as the subject line, so that I will read it as soon as I download it. Be sure to mention the name of the list you are on in your post. If I do not respond within 24 hours, resend it, because that would mean it was lost in cyberspace, my reply to it was lost in cyberspace, or some such. Let's find some ancestors!! Carol