Sandy, I haven't checked your Sanford web site in a while, but when I did I sent you a note about my grandparents that were listed, Lula Jackson Conner m. Albert Jesse Weaver. You had her name spelled 'Lulu'. That is incorrect. Also death date for Albert Jesse Weaver (son of George J.H.T. Weaver and Mary Sanford) was Feb 25, 1943, not 1923. Please check to see if you made these corrections. [email protected] wrote: > Subject: > > SANFORD-D Digest Volume 98 : Issue 22 > > Today's Topics: > #1 Sanford Mystery #2 [SSanfordG <[email protected]>] > #2 Sanford Mystery # 6 [SSanfordG <[email protected]>] > #3 Sanford Mystery #5 [SSanfordG <[email protected]>] > #4 Sanford Mystery #8 [SSanfordG <[email protected]>] > #5 Sanford Mystery #4 [SSanfordG <[email protected]>] > #6 Sanford Mystery #1 [SSanfordG <[email protected]>] > #7 Sanford Mystery #3 [SSanfordG <[email protected]>] > #8 Sanford Mystery #7 [SSanfordG <[email protected]>] > #9 Re: Sanford Mystery #7 [JustJayCee <[email protected]>] > #10 Re: Sanford Mystery #7 [SSanfordG <[email protected]>] > #11 Re: Sanford Mystery #5 ["Ann O'Hara" <[email protected]>] > #12 Re: Sanford Mystery #8 ["Ann O'Hara" <[email protected]>] > #13 Robert Sanford (1615-1676) [DMMorehous <[email protected]>] > > Administrivia: > To unsubscribe from SANFORD-D, send a message to > > [email protected] > > that contains in the body of the message the command > > unsubscribe > > and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software > requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: Sanford Mystery #2 > Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 17:07:02 EST > From: SSanfordG <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > > I have this note at the website. I would appreciate any input anyone would > have on this before I update the site > > Thanks > Sandie > > From: Researcher David McCarley > Suggests that entries for the children of Caswell Polk Sanford born ca > 1775-1778 possibly in NC, should be checked: Specifically, my great great > grandfather,John Morgan Sanford, Sr was indeed the son of 2 CONT Caswell Sr., > but it does not appear possible that the Mary listed could have been John's > mother (nor does she appear to be the mother of the older members of > Caswell's 17 or so Children), > that is unless Caswell's first wife was also named Mary Caswell Sr., appears > to 2 have been married twice. The Mary that shows up in later census records > suggests that she was too young to have been the mother of Caswell's older > children. I suspect he had two sets of children, and I have been unable to > find > anyone who can say with any degree of certainty where the first wife's > children 2 and Mary's children begin. Any clarification welcomed. > Census give age as 72 in 1850 Listed on the 1802 tax digest in Jefferson Co GA > along with a Benjamin, John, Samuel and Thomas Sanford > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: Sanford Mystery # 6 > Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 17:07:09 EST > From: SSanfordG <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > > Anyone have anything definate on this yet???? > > 1 NAME Elizabeth- /Sanford/ > 1 SEX F > 1 BIRT > 2 DATE 1537 > 2 PLAC Stanstead, Mountfitchet, Essex, England > 1 DEAT > 2 DATE 15 SEP 1600 > 2 PLAC Stanstead, Mountfitchet, Essex, England > 1 NOTE There is controversy over Elizabeth's last name..some say that it was > 2 CONT Coggleshall and some say that is incorrect. > > Researcher: [email protected] (Dennis Gene BeMent)Has last name as ? > > Researcher: [email protected](Mark and Glorene Winfield Stevens)Has Elizabeth > as daughter of John Coggeshall > > Researchers:[email protected] (Franki Loring)Frankie believes the > name to be Coggeshall daughter of John Coggeshall > > Researcher: [email protected] states there is no proof that > Elizabeth's last name Coggeshall.He also has date of marriage as 1557 > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: Sanford Mystery #5 > Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 17:07:07 EST > From: SSanfordG <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > > Has anyone found anything definate on the followin puzzle? > > Thomas Andrew /Sanford/ The. Immigrant. > 1 BIRT DATE 1607-1608 > PLAC Hertshire, Essex, Eng. > DEAT DATE 9 OCT 1681 > PLAC Milford, New Haven Co., CT > Researcher: [email protected] (Dennis Gene BeMent)Has Thomas born in 2 T > Hatfield,Essex, England > Researcher: [email protected] ( W D Sanford)has dod as Sep 1681 > Researcher: [email protected] (John D. Sanford)Eng>MA>Milford CT > Researcher: [email protected] (Frank, Brenda, Brittany Youmans)has date of > death as Sept 1681 > 1 NAME Sarah - /Sanford/ > DATE 1610 > PLAC Suffolk, England > DEAT > DATE 14 MAY 1681 > PLAC Dorchester, Suffolk Co., MA > I also have information that says Sarah last name was Wife and she > died 14 May 681 in Milford, CT. Any clarification on this? > > From:[email protected] (Franki Loring) > Claytons Quarto Diary for 1883 by Charles H. Clayton & CO > LDS Film # 0003024 Milford Familes, Milford, CT > States the following: > Thomas Sanford, Dorchester 1634 Milford 1639 had wives 1. Dorothea 2. Sarah > sisters, daughters of Henry Meadows. > > Researcher: [email protected](Amy L Kobs)has Sarah's last name as Walker. > Babtism: 15 Dec 1642 and admitted to Milford Church > > Researcher: [email protected] (Dennis Gene BeMent) Has Sarahs last > name as Meadows > > Researcher: [email protected] ( W D Sanford)Has Sarahs dob as abt 1615 > in MA., perhaps Dorchester. > > I have yet another researcher that states that Sarah was born 1615 in > Dorcherster MA. died and buried 14 May 1681 in Milford, New Haven, CT. > > Researcher: [email protected] (John D. Sanford) Has wifes name as Sarah > as Sarahor Dorothea. Eng>Dorchester, MA> Milford, CT > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: Sanford Mystery #8 > Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 17:07:11 EST > From: SSanfordG <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > > Anyone have any more input on the birthdate of this gentleman???? > > John\Johan /Warner/ > BIRT DATE ABT 1568 > Hatfield, Essex, England > DEAT DATE 16 JUL 1614 > Hatfield, Essex, England > > Researcher: [email protected](Mark and Glorene Winfield Stevens)1568 > > Researcher: [email protected]( W D Sanford)His source says dob was > 1568 and that he md Mary Purchase in 1578; if so, then he was 10 > years old at the time!!! Will Dated 1585 > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: Sanford Mystery #4 > Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 17:07:06 EST > From: SSanfordG <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > > There is an entry in the family record of the Edward Washington > Bible. DAR Records that states that Edward Sanford departed this life Sunday > 5th Jun 181?(7) at 9 AM aged 62. There is an entry here also about Margaret > Sanford died 5th July 1817. > I am not sure which Margaret or Edward this is. Does anyone have a clue? > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: Sanford Mystery #1 > Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 17:07:04 EST > From: SSanfordG <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > > Hi Everyone > > I would appreciate if all answers are sent to list. In this way many can > contribute if they see something that they have information on. > > From: [email protected] (Dan Capps) > Sandie.... > > I have searched most of my records & sources for Pernicia Slaughter and > can find nothing new. I do have a zerox of a picture of "Fannie & John > Slaughter > Samford" No other information. I think I got the picture from Jackie Hilton > who is Supt of Schools in Pineland TX. > (from me: Can anyone validate that John Slaughter Samford's parents were Uriah > Samford and Pernicia Slaughter? or Elkanah Samford?) > > One individual who puzzles me is George Crittenden Samford. He shows up > in "Our Dead" (which is a cemetery listing for Shelby county) b. 13 Apr 1852 > d. 24 > Aug 1929 f. Elkanah Samford but he shows up in the family of William Amasa > Samford. There is also an earlier George Crittenden Samford born in 1815. > (Another of Elkana's children Mary Ann married a George Crittenden Bittick) > > Census 1880 Shelby Co. TX SD1 ED87 p. 45/24 #346 > 1860 census list J S age 6; 1870 census lists John S. age 17; NOT shown in > Elkanah's bible record; Mazell lists as child of Elkanah's; There is a picture > of an individual identified as John Slaughter Samford who appears to be about > 60 to 70 years old.; Is he a twin of Josephine's?; Fannie Pearl Samford Stone, > who was a > grand daughter of Elkanah Sr. stated that there were several sets of twins in > his family. > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: Sanford Mystery #3 > Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 17:07:05 EST > From: SSanfordG <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > > Hi, > > Here is another one > > Mary Smith or Muse? > Originally had Muse as the questionable name but ran across > info that says she was a Smith. Can anyone confirm one way or another? > She was the wife of John /Remey\Remy/ born 27 SEP 1700 in > Westmoreland Co., VA > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: Sanford Mystery #7 > Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 17:07:10 EST > From: SSanfordG <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > > 1 NAME Isaiah S /Sanford/ > 1 SEX M > 1 BIRT > 2 DATE JAN 1818 > 2 PLAC NC? > 1 DEAT > 2 DATE 5 DEC 1867 > Researchers: [email protected](Jimmy Coker) > Census 1850 Tuscloosa Co., AL p. 206A Dist. 2 #171/171 9 Nov 2) 22 > Feb 1839 Tuscaloosa Co. AL p. 199 Absolom Samford to Isaiah Samford > (is this Absolom or Absolom Jr. ?? father to son or brother to brother?) > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: Re: Sanford Mystery #7 > Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 17:44:53 EST > From: JustJayCee <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > > In a message dated 98-03-25 17:19:12 EST, you write: > > << Census 1850 Tuscloosa Co., AL p. 206A Dist. 2 #171/171 9 Nov 2) 22 > Feb 1839 Tuscaloosa Co. AL p. 199 Absolom Samford to Isaiah Samford > (is this Absolom or Absolom Jr. ?? father to son or brother to brother?) > > >> > I'm not sure I know what you are asking, but Absolom, Sr. was father to Isaiah > and Absolom, Jr. was brother to Isaiah. Isaiah also named one of his sons > Absolom. Also, Isaiah S. Sanford's actual birthdate was 12 Jan., 1816 in > Buncomb Co., NC. He reported this when he took the oath of allegiance after > the Civil War. He was my gggrandfather. > > If this doesn't answer your question, please e-mail and I will try to give a > better answer. > > Also, I have lost my list of favorite places. Would you please send me the > address of the Sanford Research page again? > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: Re: Sanford Mystery #7 > Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 19:03:28 EST > From: SSanfordG <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > CC: [email protected] > > Hi, > > Thanks for the answer...I was asking because of a question listed at the > research site. This was a question that was in the files there and I am in > the process of updating the site. Right now the site is unavailable. I will > post when it is available again. > The url is > Http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Ranch/4453 > > thanks so much > Sandie > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: Re: Sanford Mystery #5 > Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 19:12:00 -0500 > From: "Ann O'Hara" <[email protected]> > To: "SSanfordG" <[email protected]>, <[email protected]> > > Before getting into the Sarah mystery...the Emigrants were Thomas Sanford > and his brother Andrew (along with a couple of other siblings). They were > two different people. (See Carlton Sanford's book). Sarah's name wasn't > wife, she WAS Thomas's wife. Every time I see a last name given for Sarah > or Dorothy (if she existed) and ask for documentation, I never get an > answer. Be very careful of accepting any wife for Thomas unless they show > the evidence. And if you do get it...please post it to the list. I have > asked several "researchers" to show me the proof, and they don't answer. > -----Original Message----- > From: SSanfordG <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] <[email protected]> > Date: Wednesday, March 25, 1998 5:22 PM > Subject: Sanford Mystery #5 > > >Has anyone found anything definate on the followin puzzle? > > > > Thomas Andrew /Sanford/ The. Immigrant. > >1 BIRT DATE 1607-1608 > >PLAC Hertshire, Essex, Eng. > >DEAT DATE 9 OCT 1681 > >PLAC Milford, New Haven Co., CT > >Researcher: [email protected] (Dennis Gene BeMent)Has Thomas born in 2 T > >Hatfield,Essex, England > >Researcher: [email protected] ( W D Sanford)has dod as Sep 1681 > >Researcher: [email protected] (John D. Sanford)Eng>MA>Milford CT > >Researcher: [email protected] (Frank, Brenda, Brittany Youmans)has date of > >death as Sept 1681 > >1 NAME Sarah - /Sanford/ > > DATE 1610 > >PLAC Suffolk, England > >DEAT > >DATE 14 MAY 1681 > >PLAC Dorchester, Suffolk Co., MA > >I also have information that says Sarah last name was Wife and she > >died 14 May 681 in Milford, CT. Any clarification on this? > > > > > >From:[email protected] (Franki Loring) > >Claytons Quarto Diary for 1883 by Charles H. Clayton & CO > >LDS Film # 0003024 Milford Familes, Milford, CT > >States the following: > >Thomas Sanford, Dorchester 1634 Milford 1639 had wives 1. Dorothea 2. Sarah > >sisters, daughters of Henry Meadows. > > > >Researcher: [email protected](Amy L Kobs)has Sarah's last name as Walker. > >Babtism: 15 Dec 1642 and admitted to Milford Church > > > >Researcher: [email protected] (Dennis Gene BeMent) Has Sarahs last > >name as Meadows > > > >Researcher: [email protected] ( W D Sanford)Has Sarahs dob as abt 1615 > >in MA., perhaps Dorchester. > > > >I have yet another researcher that states that Sarah was born 1615 in > >Dorcherster MA. died and buried 14 May 1681 in Milford, New Haven, CT. > > > >Researcher: [email protected] (John D. Sanford) Has wifes name as > Sarah > >as Sarahor Dorothea. Eng>Dorchester, MA> Milford, CT > > > > > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: Re: Sanford Mystery #8 > Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 19:29:00 -0500 > From: "Ann O'Hara" <[email protected]> > To: "SSanfordG" <[email protected]>, <[email protected]> > > John Warner was the father of Rose Warner, mother of Thomas, Andrew, Robert > and probably Zachary Sanford, and of Andrew Warner, who came to America with > the Sanford brothers. His will, filed on 16 July 1614, not 1585. is > printed in Carlton Sanford's book, to wit: > > "Commissary Court of London, Essex and Herts. (Filed Will.) 16 July, 12 > James I. (1614) > > "In the name of God, Amen. I, John WARNER of Hatfeild Broakoke alias > Hatfeild Kings, Co. Essex, yeoman, now sicke in bodie but whole and sound of > mynde and memory, &c. > > "Item. I give and bequeath unto Mary my wief all those my freehould lands, > &c., in Hatfeild, she paying Elizabeth WARNER my daughter 10 pounds a yeare > for six yeares, and to Thomas, John and Ezechiell three of the sonnes of > Ezechiel SANDFORD my sonne in law 3 pounds 6s. 8d. apiece at 21, and to > Andrewe WARNER and Edward WARNER my sonnes 50s. apiece yearly. > > "To Thomas WARNER my grandchild 20 pounds at 21. > > "To John my sonne one year's rent or profit. > > "To said wife Mary three load of wheat strawe yearly, &c., to be brought to > hir and delivered by Thomas my sonne, &c. > > "To Rose my daughter the best chest save one, &c. > > "The resideue to Thomas my sonne, executor. > > "Xphfer WILKYN and Abraham PURCAS to be my overseers. > > "his > John X WARNER > > mark. > > "Witnesses. Ezeakell SANFORD, Christofer WILKIN, Robert HOWE. (no note of > probate.)" > > Don't know his birth date, but after you've corrected the death date, 1568 > seems reasonable. Have you asked any of these researchers for > documentation? > -----Original Message----- > From: SSanfordG <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] <[email protected]> > Date: Wednesday, March 25, 1998 5:26 PM > Subject: Sanford Mystery #8 > > >Anyone have any more input on the birthdate of this gentleman???? > > > > John\Johan /Warner/ > >BIRT DATE ABT 1568 > >Hatfield, Essex, England > >DEAT DATE 16 JUL 1614 > >Hatfield, Essex, England > > > >Researcher: [email protected](Mark and Glorene Winfield Stevens)1568 > > > >Researcher: [email protected]( W D Sanford)His source says dob was > >1568 and that he md Mary Purchase in 1578; if so, then he was 10 > > years old at the time!!! Will Dated 1585 > > > > > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: Robert Sanford (1615-1676) > Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 22:38:23 EST > From: DMMorehous <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > > I am a descendant of Robert and Ann (---) Sanford of Hartford, CT. Robert > died in 1676, and was previously thought to have married Ann Adams, though > this has been proven wrong. > > I recently found a website that purports to identify Robert's parents and > ancestors (his father supposedly being one Ezekial Sanford of Co. Essex, > England), and these include an amazing group of gentry in Cheshire, Shropshire > and Essex. I had never before seen any information on Robert's parentage, and > am interested in tracking down the source of this information. The website > owner said he traced it to an Annie Sanford of Carmel, CA who submitted it to > the LDS. I am interested in the sources she relied on in putting together > this information. Can anyone else help? Has there been a breakthrough on > this line while I wasn't looking? > > Dave Morehouse > [email protected]