Some readers of this list may like to know I have access to the following reference: Source: New England Historical and Genealogical Register, No. 103, 1949 pp 208-216; 271-277 PRESIDENT JOHN SANFORD (c 1600-1653) OF PORTSMOUTH, R. I., AND HIS FAMILY By G. ANDREWS MORIARTY, A.M., LLB F S A --------------------------- Does anyone know of research after 1949 which sheds light on the English origins of John Sanford, who came with the Winthrop fleet in 1630/31? In Moriarty it is stated that " his English origin is not known", though Suffolk or Essex is indicated. I can look up individuals in the John Sandford line, for those following early New England SANFORD lines, and e-mail extracts. Paul Sandford (Researching SANDFORD, DYER, VAVASOUR in the UK and India)