I just noticed your posting re NGI on the Sanford List and I am having troubles with my HAYES line and I grab any connection that MIGHT be something. Is your Hayes line connected to the Sanford line? My grandmother was Lillie Ett Hayes (I think her father, and a brother was ALVIN). Lillie married James L. Inman whose mother was Sarah L. Sanford. So far I haven't been able to trace Alvin back - tho maybe can find in New York census. I found what little I have in the Medina County, OH records. Does any of this seem to come close to your family?? Lola Mann Richardson, TX' [email protected]