Hi Muriel, I do not have a John SANFORD in my file. Gideon Sanford moved from Rensselaer County to Fulton County about 1845. All of my information pertains to the SANFORDS from Fulton County. There was another Gideon SANFORD who lived in the western part of New York State. That may be the person you have seen. Richard From the Shores of Grand Traverse Bay