John SANFORD

Is anyone working on the Baltimore Sanford Line? Looking for information on Capt. John Lowery Sanford born 17 Nov 1810 or 8 Nov 1807, son of George Sanford and Elizabeth Lowery. Capt John Sanford (as family legend has it) was commodore of the first fleet of merchant ships into Japan after Perry. He was living on Utah St. in Baltimore in 1890. Thanks, Hilary Westin

The original LDS Ancestral File that seems to have started all this lists 3 children born to John and Mary BEFORE Rose. They are Margery b. 1579, Margaret b. 1583, and Joan b. 1585. I have no idea if this is accurate but, if it is, then the 1578 marriage date would be correct. Does anyone know if the 1568 birth date is correct? Norm

Hi all, does anyone know if there are any published SANDIFORD resources I could look for? Many Thanks, Susan

Linda, I would like to have a copy of this book. Lynette > Subject: books > Date: Sun, 29 Mar 1998 21:00:00 -0600 > From: "Paul & Linda Burner" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]>I have a copy of ROBERT SANDFORD and his > wife ANN ADAMS SANDFORD 1615-1930, by Josephine Sandford Ware, Tuttle > Co., Rutland VT, 85 pp.(actually 81). Want other books on > Sanford/Sandford. Linda Dell

Hi Just wanted to ask the following. If any of you have websites with any Sanford information and want to place a link on the Research page just send me the URL... thanks Sandie

Linda, I am very interested in the book you cited. What year was it published and does it by chance have a Library of Congress number? I'd guess it was published circa 1900-1910 since Tuttle, primarily a printer, seems to have gone out of business or been absorbed by another publisher (possibly Morehouse) after that. Does Ms. Ware's book cover any of Robert's ancestry? If so, it would be another interesting version of it that would be applicable to his brothers as well: Andrew and Thomas (my ancestor.) It might also shed some light on the status of Zachery Sanford who settled in Long Island and who some think may have been one of these brothers, although it is not really provable at this point. I believe the book you have is quite rare and possibly very important. I'd love to see it, of course, but really don't have the nerve to ask to borrow it. There are facsimile reprint publishers who will reproduce old, out of copyright rare books. This is one possible way you can share it at no cost to you (you might even make a buck or two) if you are so inclined. You asked about other Sanford/Sandford books. Are you familiar with "Thomas Sanford the Emigrant" by Carleton E. Sanford: Tuttle, Rutland VT (1911). It is now available as a facsimile reprint. It is a 1600+ pg. classic listing over 15,000 of Thomas Sanford's descendants to about 1900. It also has a preface by genealogist Charles A. Hoppin that is the most reliable source of info on the ancestry of these brothers that I know of. I also has an Appendix containing what the author found of the descendants of Thomas' brothers and other early Sanford settlers. Although the 2 volume set is expensive because of its size, it is available to members of this group at a significant discount for $125. I'd be happy to provide details for any who are interested. For others on the line, if you have a book similar to Linda's that deals with a Sanford/Sandford ancestry back to or near the first ancestor of the line to emigrate to America, I'd love to hear about it. Also any book you may have that covers a collateral line, but covers a Sanford branch through marriage, I'd sure like to know about it. I have compiled a bibliography of about 50 privately- and commercially-published works that cover my branch of the Sanford clan that I'd be happy to expand and share with anyone interested. Steve Sanford [email protected]

Hello Sanford cousins, I've been watching the list for a very long time hoping that my Penelope would surface and have just visited one of the great Sanford websites. With such a group of researchers, surely someone knows my Penelope. My Penelope SANFORD was the wife of Haden EDWARDS (Haden born 1716) of Stafford and Prince William Cos., VA. Penelope and Haden Edwards relocated to Bourbon Co. KY where Haden left a will in 1803 naming Penelope and his children, viz: l. John Edwards, US Senator 1792 (m. Susannah WROE); 2. Penelope Edwards (m. William POPE); 3. Benjamin Edwards (m. Margaret BEALL); 4. Sanford Edwards; 5. Nancy Edwards (m. Charles WILLIAMS); 6. Mary Edwards (m. Wm. ASHMORE); 7. Elizabeth Edwards (my line-m. John CHANCELLOR); 8. George Edwards (m. ELizabeth MONROE). I have unsubstantiated material that says Penelope Sanford came, probably with her brother John, from England to VA in 1735. It goes on to say that Penelope and John Sanford were children of Humphrey Sanford of England and grandchildren of Sir Humphrey Sanford. I would love to communicate with other members of this Sanford family and have much to share. Thanks so much. Marilyn [email protected]

I have a copy of ROBERT SANDFORD and his wife ANN ADAMS SANDFORD 1615-1930, by Josephine Sandford Ware, Tuttle Co., Rutland VT, 85 pp.(actually 81). Want other books on Sanford/Sandford. Linda Dell

I am trying to extend connections farther back from Isaac Sanford from Wabash county Illinois, son William Joseph Sanford (b June 15,1873). I think his father was from New York but have no proof or name.If you have any connections at all please forward to [email protected]

Hello Everyone, I must say I have been impressed with the participation in the "Sanford Mysteries". I want to thank each and everyone of you. It did my heart good to see such a spurt in the "old mail list" Hopefully we can continue in this way. I, myself, think the purpose of a mailing list loses something of it's purpose when discussion isn't posted to the list. If one doesn't prefer this volume of mail then the digest is there for those persons. At long last the website is back online. I thought for a while it was lost. I hit the dreaded "delete" key and wiped out the part I was working on at that moment . Thank goodness for backup files. The URL for the site is Http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Ranch/4453/ The site has a "brand new look" which I hope you enjoy. As for me...I am, as ever Sandie

I am new to this list and thought I would post my line as I know it - not all docummented - I would like to communicate with anyone who has more information or who connects: John Sanford & Elizabeth Webb John Sanford & Mary Gorton John Sanford & Content Howland Content Howland & Thomas Langworthy Sanford Langworthy & Anna Babcock Anna Langworthy & Nathaniel Plumb Altana Plumb & Samuel Peck Nathaniel Peck & Elizabeth Goodman The last couple are my gg grandparents who came to Cal in via covered wagon in 1849/50 from the Rep of Texas. Thanks in advance. Faye in Cal.

I think you're probably right but wouldn't trust the Ancestral File as a source - full of misinformation. -----Original Message----- From: Steve <[email protected]> To: 'Ann O'Hara' <[email protected]>; W. D. "Sandy" Sanford (E-mail) <[email protected]> Cc: Sandra Sanford Gage (E-mail 2) <[email protected]> Date: Saturday, March 28, 1998 10:22 AM Subject: RE: Sanford Mystery #8 >Sandy & Ann > >I'm pretty sure the John Warner mystery comes from inverted last two digits >of his marriage year. He and Mary Purchase were married in 1587 (not 1578) >when he was about age 19. Note that their first child, Rose, was born 1588. >John's other dates seem OK: b: abt 1568 & d: 1614. > >I had the marriage date wrong too. I'm not sure if I inverted the digits >entering the data, or copied it that way when I found the Warner ancestry >in the LDS Ancestral File. According to my notes, the link I used was from >John's oldest brother, Thomas Warner, AFN 8J90-Z9. > >Hope this helps. > >Steve Sanford >[email protected] > > >

Sandie I'll take a stab at this. I just went through the Appendix to Carleton E. Sanford's "Thomas Sanford the Emigrant" in which he lists data about "other" pioneer Sanfords (other than Thomas) including his brothers who emigrated, plus several others of this surname totally unrelated to Thomas and his brothers. On p.1335 (vol. 2) CES covers Thomas' brother Robert and lists his wife only as Ann. He further notes that James Savage lists her as the daughter of Jeremy Adams, thus she would be Ann Adams. But CES further notes that "recent research" (which would have been c. 1900) by A. D. Hodges Jr. disagrees with Savage. However, nothing CES quotes of Hodges conclusions clarifies who else Robert's wife might have been. I find it hard to go against Savage's conclusions since his work really is the first methodical genealogical info on the first settlers in the Mass Bay Colony and he was working with original source documents. The subject Robert clearly settled in Hartford and, according to CES, died there. I scanned his children's listings and most of them who migrated only went across the Sound to Long Island, which in the beginning was administratively part of the Hartford Colony. None of Robert's children appear to have migrated to Virginia. There are several other possibilities covered in the CES Appendix worth looking at. While he lists no other "pioneer" named Robert San(d)ford, he does list several of other pioneers who had sons named Robert. For example, on p. 1394 pioneer Richard Sanford, and on p. 1398 Nathaniel Sanford, both had sons named Robert. It may be worth mentioning that the Index to CES's book lists ONLY descendants of Thomas. None of the Pioneers (or their descendants) in the Appendix are listed in the book's index. However, the Appendix sections are relatively short and easily scanned if you are looking for a specific name. Another more promising clue I found in the CES Appendix was on p. 1398 under Pioneer Nathaniel Sanford. Under him CES lists a number of "others" who may/may not have been offspring of Nathaniel. Note Vincent Sanford, at the bottom of the page, who "Was Clerk of Lancaster County, Va., in 1652, showing plainly that a Pioneer Sanford or Sanfords had settled there and probably prior to this time. The name [Sanford] often appears in the records of Lancaster, Northumberland, Richmond, and Westmoreland Counties, and among the best families." CES cites several of these people, then concludes, "There are a great many Sanfords in the Southern States, nearly all of whom sprung from the Virginia Pioneers." This is the best "pointer" to the Southern Sanford's I can recall seeing in CES. [I'm not so sure about his phrase "and probably prior to this time" since, if Vincent was Clerk in 1652, and likely at least 22 years old to hold the job, he would have been born in 1630 or before -- too early to have been anything but an emigrant himself.] I am so focused on the Pilgrim Colony (1620) and the Mass Bay Colony (1630) that I personally have not really looked into other colonization in America that followed. But I am pretty sure that by 1640 many vessels were sailing from England directly to ports other than Boston (New Amsterdam/ New York for example) and most likely other places down the coast. I think I'd establish the history side of this first, then try to find records of the first settlers of the ports/colonies south of New York. I do know that Gov. Winthrop and his company had land grants in Virginia but, through a navigation error, they wound up in Mass Bay. Thus his Virginia Grant was up for grabs and it seems likely there were many who quickly (mid to late 1630s on) headed for the Virginia Grant. I'd bet Vincent Sanford, if not the principal ancestor of the Southern Sanford lines, was at least one of them. Steve Sanford [email protected]

Hello to all-- Hello to Ann-- Steve, thanks; I hadn't thought about the reversal of the last 2 digits in the marraiage date of John WARNER and Mary PURCHASE. And I always was wondering why they waited to have Rose 10 years after they were married!! (I have a problem sometimes -- I can't walk and chew gum at the same time!!! <<grin>> ) (Steve and I live approx 30 miles apart and have had lunch several times. We've discussed genealogy over the last couple of years. Steve has been a big help.) Regards, Sandy Sanford (male) in rainy San Diego Co., CA

Sandy & Ann I'm pretty sure the John Warner mystery comes from inverted last two digits of his marriage year. He and Mary Purchase were married in 1587 (not 1578) when he was about age 19. Note that their first child, Rose, was born 1588. John's other dates seem OK: b: abt 1568 & d: 1614. I had the marriage date wrong too. I'm not sure if I inverted the digits entering the data, or copied it that way when I found the Warner ancestry in the LDS Ancestral File. According to my notes, the link I used was from John's oldest brother, Thomas Warner, AFN 8J90-Z9. Hope this helps. Steve Sanford [email protected]

I have born 1558 and will dated 1614. The will is reprinted in Carlton Sanford's book, but I'm not sure where I picked up the 1558. -----Original Message----- From: GOLFOGEY <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Friday, March 27, 1998 7:44 PM Subject: Sanford Mystery #8 >Hello to all-- > >Sandie is correct in that I show John WARNER, b 1568; md Mary PURCHASE in 1578 >-- and his will is dated 1585. > >I put the info in my computer notes that means he was only 10 years of age >when he md Mary -- It didn't seem correct when I put it into my computer, but >I entered it that way anyway. My source is two other Sanford researchers, but >I don't know their source. > >Initially, I had John WARNER b 1555, but I don't have the source for that >either. I'm certainly willing to change to whatever dates if somebody has the >source. Perhaps I should just delete his birth date. What do you think? > >Regards, Sandy Sanford (male) in San Diego Co., CA > >

Hello everyone, Looks like there's a controversy still brewing over what the Hartford Robert's wife's maiden name was! This is a chance for a full discussion of who thinks what and why. If anyone has concrete evidence to present please take this opportunity to do so. All input will be appreciated, especially by me, being that my ancestor is the Anne Smith that married one of the Robert Sanfords and moved to VA and this is my direct line. Thanks to a great group Sandie

Here is a page which gives info on the history of the Western Reserve. My Sanford ancestors came from CT. to Charlestown Ohio which is part of the Western Reserve. Thought this might help anyone with Ohio Sanfords. <A HREF="http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohfrankl/Land/ohl1.html#PMI">OHIO COUNTY INFO: History of the Western Reserve</A> Connecticut Western Reserve lands. However, researchers can contact the Connecticut State Library, 231 Capitol Street, Hartford, Conn. 06115. The library has records relating to the Connecticut Land Company, Western Reserve Deeds, 1800-1807; Registrar of Certificates, Mortgages 1796-1800; Register of Deed Transfer, 1795-1807; Proceedings and Votes and Stock Ledgers. The Litchfield Historical Society, Litchfield, Conn. 06759, has the original Connecticut Land Company proceedings. The Trumbull County Recorder, Warren, Ohio 44481, has deeds recorded in �Western Reserve Draft Book,� pages five to 73, inclusive.

Sandy, I haven't checked your Sanford web site in a while, but when I did I sent you a note about my grandparents that were listed, Lula Jackson Conner m. Albert Jesse Weaver. You had her name spelled 'Lulu'. That is incorrect. Also death date for Albert Jesse Weaver (son of George J.H.T. Weaver and Mary Sanford) was Feb 25, 1943, not 1923. Please check to see if you made these corrections. [email protected] wrote: > Subject: > > SANFORD-D Digest Volume 98 : Issue 22 > > Today's Topics: > #1 Sanford Mystery #2 [SSanfordG <[email protected]>] > #2 Sanford Mystery # 6 [SSanfordG <[email protected]>] > #3 Sanford Mystery #5 [SSanfordG <[email protected]>] > #4 Sanford Mystery #8 [SSanfordG <[email protected]>] > #5 Sanford Mystery #4 [SSanfordG <[email protected]>] > #6 Sanford Mystery #1 [SSanfordG <[email protected]>] > #7 Sanford Mystery #3 [SSanfordG <[email protected]>] > #8 Sanford Mystery #7 [SSanfordG <[email protected]>] > #9 Re: Sanford Mystery #7 [JustJayCee <[email protected]>] > #10 Re: Sanford Mystery #7 [SSanfordG <[email protected]>] > #11 Re: Sanford Mystery #5 ["Ann O'Hara" <[email protected]>] > #12 Re: Sanford Mystery #8 ["Ann O'Hara" <[email protected]>] > #13 Robert Sanford (1615-1676) [DMMorehous <[email protected]>] > > Administrivia: > To unsubscribe from SANFORD-D, send a message to > > [email protected] > > that contains in the body of the message the command > > unsubscribe > > and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software > requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: Sanford Mystery #2 > Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 17:07:02 EST > From: SSanfordG <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > > I have this note at the website. I would appreciate any input anyone would > have on this before I update the site > > Thanks > Sandie > > From: Researcher David McCarley > Suggests that entries for the children of Caswell Polk Sanford born ca > 1775-1778 possibly in NC, should be checked: Specifically, my great great > grandfather,John Morgan Sanford, Sr was indeed the son of 2 CONT Caswell Sr., > but it does not appear possible that the Mary listed could have been John's > mother (nor does she appear to be the mother of the older members of > Caswell's 17 or so Children), > that is unless Caswell's first wife was also named Mary Caswell Sr., appears > to 2 have been married twice. The Mary that shows up in later census records > suggests that she was too young to have been the mother of Caswell's older > children. I suspect he had two sets of children, and I have been unable to > find > anyone who can say with any degree of certainty where the first wife's > children 2 and Mary's children begin. Any clarification welcomed. > Census give age as 72 in 1850 Listed on the 1802 tax digest in Jefferson Co GA > along with a Benjamin, John, Samuel and Thomas Sanford > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: Sanford Mystery # 6 > Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 17:07:09 EST > From: SSanfordG <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > > Anyone have anything definate on this yet???? > > 1 NAME Elizabeth- /Sanford/ > 1 SEX F > 1 BIRT > 2 DATE 1537 > 2 PLAC Stanstead, Mountfitchet, Essex, England > 1 DEAT > 2 DATE 15 SEP 1600 > 2 PLAC Stanstead, Mountfitchet, Essex, England > 1 NOTE There is controversy over Elizabeth's last name..some say that it was > 2 CONT Coggleshall and some say that is incorrect. > > Researcher: [email protected] (Dennis Gene BeMent)Has last name as ? > > Researcher: [email protected](Mark and Glorene Winfield Stevens)Has Elizabeth > as daughter of John Coggeshall > > Researchers:[email protected] (Franki Loring)Frankie believes the > name to be Coggeshall daughter of John Coggeshall > > Researcher: [email protected] states there is no proof that > Elizabeth's last name Coggeshall.He also has date of marriage as 1557 > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: Sanford Mystery #5 > Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 17:07:07 EST > From: SSanfordG <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > > Has anyone found anything definate on the followin puzzle? > > Thomas Andrew /Sanford/ The. Immigrant. > 1 BIRT DATE 1607-1608 > PLAC Hertshire, Essex, Eng. > DEAT DATE 9 OCT 1681 > PLAC Milford, New Haven Co., CT > Researcher: [email protected] (Dennis Gene BeMent)Has Thomas born in 2 T > Hatfield,Essex, England > Researcher: [email protected] ( W D Sanford)has dod as Sep 1681 > Researcher: [email protected] (John D. Sanford)Eng>MA>Milford CT > Researcher: [email protected] (Frank, Brenda, Brittany Youmans)has date of > death as Sept 1681 > 1 NAME Sarah - /Sanford/ > DATE 1610 > PLAC Suffolk, England > DEAT > DATE 14 MAY 1681 > PLAC Dorchester, Suffolk Co., MA > I also have information that says Sarah last name was Wife and she > died 14 May 681 in Milford, CT. Any clarification on this? > > From:[email protected] (Franki Loring) > Claytons Quarto Diary for 1883 by Charles H. Clayton & CO > LDS Film # 0003024 Milford Familes, Milford, CT > States the following: > Thomas Sanford, Dorchester 1634 Milford 1639 had wives 1. Dorothea 2. Sarah > sisters, daughters of Henry Meadows. > > Researcher: [email protected](Amy L Kobs)has Sarah's last name as Walker. > Babtism: 15 Dec 1642 and admitted to Milford Church > > Researcher: [email protected] (Dennis Gene BeMent) Has Sarahs last > name as Meadows > > Researcher: [email protected] ( W D Sanford)Has Sarahs dob as abt 1615 > in MA., perhaps Dorchester. > > I have yet another researcher that states that Sarah was born 1615 in > Dorcherster MA. died and buried 14 May 1681 in Milford, New Haven, CT. > > Researcher: [email protected] (John D. Sanford) Has wifes name as Sarah > as Sarahor Dorothea. Eng>Dorchester, MA> Milford, CT > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: Sanford Mystery #8 > Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 17:07:11 EST > From: SSanfordG <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > > Anyone have any more input on the birthdate of this gentleman???? > > John\Johan /Warner/ > BIRT DATE ABT 1568 > Hatfield, Essex, England > DEAT DATE 16 JUL 1614 > Hatfield, Essex, England > > Researcher: [email protected](Mark and Glorene Winfield Stevens)1568 > > Researcher: [email protected]( W D Sanford)His source says dob was > 1568 and that he md Mary Purchase in 1578; if so, then he was 10 > years old at the time!!! Will Dated 1585 > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: Sanford Mystery #4 > Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 17:07:06 EST > From: SSanfordG <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > > There is an entry in the family record of the Edward Washington > Bible. DAR Records that states that Edward Sanford departed this life Sunday > 5th Jun 181?(7) at 9 AM aged 62. There is an entry here also about Margaret > Sanford died 5th July 1817. > I am not sure which Margaret or Edward this is. Does anyone have a clue? > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: Sanford Mystery #1 > Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 17:07:04 EST > From: SSanfordG <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > > Hi Everyone > > I would appreciate if all answers are sent to list. In this way many can > contribute if they see something that they have information on. > > From: [email protected] (Dan Capps) > Sandie.... > > I have searched most of my records & sources for Pernicia Slaughter and > can find nothing new. I do have a zerox of a picture of "Fannie & John > Slaughter > Samford" No other information. I think I got the picture from Jackie Hilton > who is Supt of Schools in Pineland TX. > (from me: Can anyone validate that John Slaughter Samford's parents were Uriah > Samford and Pernicia Slaughter? or Elkanah Samford?) > > One individual who puzzles me is George Crittenden Samford. He shows up > in "Our Dead" (which is a cemetery listing for Shelby county) b. 13 Apr 1852 > d. 24 > Aug 1929 f. Elkanah Samford but he shows up in the family of William Amasa > Samford. There is also an earlier George Crittenden Samford born in 1815. > (Another of Elkana's children Mary Ann married a George Crittenden Bittick) > > Census 1880 Shelby Co. TX SD1 ED87 p. 45/24 #346 > 1860 census list J S age 6; 1870 census lists John S. age 17; NOT shown in > Elkanah's bible record; Mazell lists as child of Elkanah's; There is a picture > of an individual identified as John Slaughter Samford who appears to be about > 60 to 70 years old.; Is he a twin of Josephine's?; Fannie Pearl Samford Stone, > who was a > grand daughter of Elkanah Sr. stated that there were several sets of twins in > his family. > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: Sanford Mystery #3 > Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 17:07:05 EST > From: SSanfordG <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > > Hi, > > Here is another one > > Mary Smith or Muse? > Originally had Muse as the questionable name but ran across > info that says she was a Smith. Can anyone confirm one way or another? > She was the wife of John /Remey\Remy/ born 27 SEP 1700 in > Westmoreland Co., VA > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: Sanford Mystery #7 > Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 17:07:10 EST > From: SSanfordG <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > > 1 NAME Isaiah S /Sanford/ > 1 SEX M > 1 BIRT > 2 DATE JAN 1818 > 2 PLAC NC? > 1 DEAT > 2 DATE 5 DEC 1867 > Researchers: [email protected](Jimmy Coker) > Census 1850 Tuscloosa Co., AL p. 206A Dist. 2 #171/171 9 Nov 2) 22 > Feb 1839 Tuscaloosa Co. AL p. 199 Absolom Samford to Isaiah Samford > (is this Absolom or Absolom Jr. ?? father to son or brother to brother?) > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: Re: Sanford Mystery #7 > Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 17:44:53 EST > From: JustJayCee <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > > In a message dated 98-03-25 17:19:12 EST, you write: > > << Census 1850 Tuscloosa Co., AL p. 206A Dist. 2 #171/171 9 Nov 2) 22 > Feb 1839 Tuscaloosa Co. AL p. 199 Absolom Samford to Isaiah Samford > (is this Absolom or Absolom Jr. ?? father to son or brother to brother?) > > >> > I'm not sure I know what you are asking, but Absolom, Sr. was father to Isaiah > and Absolom, Jr. was brother to Isaiah. Isaiah also named one of his sons > Absolom. Also, Isaiah S. Sanford's actual birthdate was 12 Jan., 1816 in > Buncomb Co., NC. He reported this when he took the oath of allegiance after > the Civil War. He was my gggrandfather. > > If this doesn't answer your question, please e-mail and I will try to give a > better answer. > > Also, I have lost my list of favorite places. Would you please send me the > address of the Sanford Research page again? > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: Re: Sanford Mystery #7 > Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 19:03:28 EST > From: SSanfordG <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > CC: [email protected] > > Hi, > > Thanks for the answer...I was asking because of a question listed at the > research site. This was a question that was in the files there and I am in > the process of updating the site. Right now the site is unavailable. I will > post when it is available again. > The url is > Http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Ranch/4453 > > thanks so much > Sandie > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: Re: Sanford Mystery #5 > Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 19:12:00 -0500 > From: "Ann O'Hara" <[email protected]> > To: "SSanfordG" <[email protected]>, <[email protected]> > > Before getting into the Sarah mystery...the Emigrants were Thomas Sanford > and his brother Andrew (along with a couple of other siblings). They were > two different people. (See Carlton Sanford's book). Sarah's name wasn't > wife, she WAS Thomas's wife. Every time I see a last name given for Sarah > or Dorothy (if she existed) and ask for documentation, I never get an > answer. Be very careful of accepting any wife for Thomas unless they show > the evidence. And if you do get it...please post it to the list. I have > asked several "researchers" to show me the proof, and they don't answer. > -----Original Message----- > From: SSanfordG <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] <[email protected]> > Date: Wednesday, March 25, 1998 5:22 PM > Subject: Sanford Mystery #5 > > >Has anyone found anything definate on the followin puzzle? > > > > Thomas Andrew /Sanford/ The. Immigrant. > >1 BIRT DATE 1607-1608 > >PLAC Hertshire, Essex, Eng. > >DEAT DATE 9 OCT 1681 > >PLAC Milford, New Haven Co., CT > >Researcher: [email protected] (Dennis Gene BeMent)Has Thomas born in 2 T > >Hatfield,Essex, England > >Researcher: [email protected] ( W D Sanford)has dod as Sep 1681 > >Researcher: [email protected] (John D. Sanford)Eng>MA>Milford CT > >Researcher: [email protected] (Frank, Brenda, Brittany Youmans)has date of > >death as Sept 1681 > >1 NAME Sarah - /Sanford/ > > DATE 1610 > >PLAC Suffolk, England > >DEAT > >DATE 14 MAY 1681 > >PLAC Dorchester, Suffolk Co., MA > >I also have information that says Sarah last name was Wife and she > >died 14 May 681 in Milford, CT. Any clarification on this? > > > > > >From:[email protected] (Franki Loring) > >Claytons Quarto Diary for 1883 by Charles H. Clayton & CO > >LDS Film # 0003024 Milford Familes, Milford, CT > >States the following: > >Thomas Sanford, Dorchester 1634 Milford 1639 had wives 1. Dorothea 2. Sarah > >sisters, daughters of Henry Meadows. > > > >Researcher: [email protected](Amy L Kobs)has Sarah's last name as Walker. > >Babtism: 15 Dec 1642 and admitted to Milford Church > > > >Researcher: [email protected] (Dennis Gene BeMent) Has Sarahs last > >name as Meadows > > > >Researcher: [email protected] ( W D Sanford)Has Sarahs dob as abt 1615 > >in MA., perhaps Dorchester. > > > >I have yet another researcher that states that Sarah was born 1615 in > >Dorcherster MA. died and buried 14 May 1681 in Milford, New Haven, CT. > > > >Researcher: [email protected] (John D. Sanford) Has wifes name as > Sarah > >as Sarahor Dorothea. Eng>Dorchester, MA> Milford, CT > > > > > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: Re: Sanford Mystery #8 > Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 19:29:00 -0500 > From: "Ann O'Hara" <[email protected]> > To: "SSanfordG" <[email protected]>, <[email protected]> > > John Warner was the father of Rose Warner, mother of Thomas, Andrew, Robert > and probably Zachary Sanford, and of Andrew Warner, who came to America with > the Sanford brothers. His will, filed on 16 July 1614, not 1585. is > printed in Carlton Sanford's book, to wit: > > "Commissary Court of London, Essex and Herts. (Filed Will.) 16 July, 12 > James I. (1614) > > "In the name of God, Amen. I, John WARNER of Hatfeild Broakoke alias > Hatfeild Kings, Co. Essex, yeoman, now sicke in bodie but whole and sound of > mynde and memory, &c. > > "Item. I give and bequeath unto Mary my wief all those my freehould lands, > &c., in Hatfeild, she paying Elizabeth WARNER my daughter 10 pounds a yeare > for six yeares, and to Thomas, John and Ezechiell three of the sonnes of > Ezechiel SANDFORD my sonne in law 3 pounds 6s. 8d. apiece at 21, and to > Andrewe WARNER and Edward WARNER my sonnes 50s. apiece yearly. > > "To Thomas WARNER my grandchild 20 pounds at 21. > > "To John my sonne one year's rent or profit. > > "To said wife Mary three load of wheat strawe yearly, &c., to be brought to > hir and delivered by Thomas my sonne, &c. > > "To Rose my daughter the best chest save one, &c. > > "The resideue to Thomas my sonne, executor. > > "Xphfer WILKYN and Abraham PURCAS to be my overseers. > > "his > John X WARNER > > mark. > > "Witnesses. Ezeakell SANFORD, Christofer WILKIN, Robert HOWE. (no note of > probate.)" > > Don't know his birth date, but after you've corrected the death date, 1568 > seems reasonable. Have you asked any of these researchers for > documentation? > -----Original Message----- > From: SSanfordG <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] <[email protected]> > Date: Wednesday, March 25, 1998 5:26 PM > Subject: Sanford Mystery #8 > > >Anyone have any more input on the birthdate of this gentleman???? > > > > John\Johan /Warner/ > >BIRT DATE ABT 1568 > >Hatfield, Essex, England > >DEAT DATE 16 JUL 1614 > >Hatfield, Essex, England > > > >Researcher: [email protected](Mark and Glorene Winfield Stevens)1568 > > > >Researcher: [email protected]( W D Sanford)His source says dob was > >1568 and that he md Mary Purchase in 1578; if so, then he was 10 > > years old at the time!!! Will Dated 1585 > > > > > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: Robert Sanford (1615-1676) > Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 22:38:23 EST > From: DMMorehous <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > > I am a descendant of Robert and Ann (---) Sanford of Hartford, CT. Robert > died in 1676, and was previously thought to have married Ann Adams, though > this has been proven wrong. > > I recently found a website that purports to identify Robert's parents and > ancestors (his father supposedly being one Ezekial Sanford of Co. Essex, > England), and these include an amazing group of gentry in Cheshire, Shropshire > and Essex. I had never before seen any information on Robert's parentage, and > am interested in tracking down the source of this information. The website > owner said he traced it to an Annie Sanford of Carmel, CA who submitted it to > the LDS. I am interested in the sources she relied on in putting together > this information. Can anyone else help? Has there been a breakthrough on > this line while I wasn't looking? > > Dave Morehouse > [email protected]