Hi, I think the Sanford website is great and I wonder about the format...can anyone suggest where to get a good website format? I think I'm ready to start one but I want one with lots of links capabilities and indexes...and one that doesn't throw an ad in everyone's faces every minute or so! Any suggestions? Sorry this isn't genealogy exactly--but its other people doing this kind of research that who will know what types of sites work best...By the way, another list I'm on has lots and lots of friendly posts that aren't exactly genealogical. Everyone's OK with it, but to be polite, if it's NOT about ancestry directly, we use NGI in the subject line. That way, anyone who doesn't want to be bothered can just DELETE. It works very smoothly on that list! Lately our NGI post have been about family traits--diabetes, or second toe longer than the "big" toe, or the family curse levied by the Archbishop of Glasgow.....WAY back ! It's related, but not strictly genealogical... Cyndi Babbling in Baltimore

Bitch and groan . . . Whine and cry . . . If that is all this list is good for I'll say good-bye! Adios!

Sandie: Good evening I'm usually just a lurker and if someone I can help, I help. Genealogy isn't just what life is about, we are all in need of getting off the subject once in a while and these people that feel that have to say mean things to people are not very carring and someday they are going to have to step back and ask themselves why no one helps them. Get an attitude adjustment folks and lets stick to what we are here for, helping each other with our family history, not to sit and bicker about who does what and why. I've done genealogy for over 30 years now and have never felt I had to hurt someone to get what I needed. Happy hunting, Franki At 02:25 AM 11/12/98 EST, you wrote: >Hello Shan, > >I am sorry that someone offended you, I am sure that it wasn't meant to do so. >I sincerely apologize for you being offended. I can see both sides of the >coin. I can appreciate that you took the statement as personal. But I feel >it wasn't mean't personal. You have got to realize that the idea that was >trying to be put across was the misuse of lists. And it does happen. Spam >etc. is very hard on list members and I have seen where lists were shut down >with reply to, reply to, reply messages. It doesn't hurt, in my opinion to get >off subject every once in a while if it isn't over done, but it is very hard >to control. Perhaps we should be more careful in what we say and think twice. >You never know.. And I really hope I don't offend anyone with my opinion.. > >Sincerely >Sandie > ICQ # 4991987 www.techline.com/~franki/ Franki Loring P. O. Box 843 Aberdeen, WA 98520-0177 Have a nice day!

I'm sorry to hear about your husband. I can not beleive that people have to be so tactless and so mean, why can't they just delete what they don't want and leave it be, instead always having to have the last word. my two cents Franki At 10:29 PM 11/11/98 -0600, you wrote: >I was just reading your untactful message...wish to inform you that >there are many who can chew gum, read a book and yes Even use a >computer at the same time....as for remembering the Veterans ...I >remember one everyday ...MY HUSBAND died in Vietnam April1968.....died >in a firey helicopter crash...Why ? Because he believed in our country >and what it stood for , irregardless that he spent his early years in a >DP camp for Japansese and he was an American....If you don't like to >read something that is posted , just delete it > >I apologize to the list for sending this in this fashion...but I wanted >to say this publicly...... > ICQ # 4991987 www.techline.com/~franki/ Franki Loring P. O. Box 843 Aberdeen, WA 98520-0177 Have a nice day!

I was just reading your untactful message...wish to inform you that there are many who can chew gum, read a book and yes Even use a computer at the same time....as for remembering the Veterans ...I remember one everyday ...MY HUSBAND died in Vietnam April1968.....died in a firey helicopter crash...Why ? Because he believed in our country and what it stood for , irregardless that he spent his early years in a DP camp for Japansese and he was an American....If you don't like to read something that is posted , just delete it I apologize to the list for sending this in this fashion...but I wanted to say this publicly......

Howdy - My 2 cents worth: The question of website versus mailing list is totally meaningless. (No disrespect intended.) You are missing the major point. For one thing, there are lots of people who have mailing list access who do not have web access. There are lots of economic reasons for this and some security issues as well. Also, consider the difference in the experience people have with these tools. Some people know how to surf the web. Others know how to do their email - well, almost, considering the number of unsubscribe messages, recipes, rememberances of veterans, etc. we have to read to see the possible messages about our ancestors. Others join the chat rooms (shudder). Leave the mailing list as it is. By all means, encourage the use of the web site. One has little to do with the other, IMHO. (It might help if you gave the URL. <GRIN> By the way, I would be happy to contribute a GEDCOM. Thanks. Gil ------------------------ From: [email protected] Subject: Fwd: Online San(d)ford info Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 18:42:53 EST To: [email protected] This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --part0_910827774_boundary Content-ID: <[email protected]_out.mail.aol.com.1> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Hello List.. This is a suggestion I got this evening from one of our researchers. (the only reason I am not giving his name is because I didn't ask him if I could} I am wondering how many would be willing to post a profile and gedcom. I am also asking how many have the material and would be willing to be listed to do look-ups. Please let me know Sandie > > By this, I mean each member would post their interests profile and a zip > file of Gedcom data if they have one, rather like they do on the Compuserve > Forum. A Directory of members area/connection interests with email > addresses and web addresses would then enable other members or anyone to > target contacts. > > It would be made clear (as I think it is on your website already) what the > purpose of the site is. By this I mean it is not really for general > historical or topographical chit chat, but for Genealogy. > issues, etc > > I suggest that using a website is much more efficient. The Genserv model > may be the ideal, if resources can be found to adopt this approach. > Thereby, readers 'pull' the info they want rather than having any > irrelevant info 'pushed' at them. > > Finaly, may I suggest we have a parallel with the neighborhood Residents > Association. For some its a social club, whereas for others it's a body > which exists to help one solve local problems. I suggest family history > research fall in the latter category. > > In the GENUKI network here in Britain, individuals who offer specific > look-up services are posted on a County specific website. Similarly, a > table of people with access to particular SANFORD reference materials would > feature in a website. A web delivery should make it a more international > venture, as Genserv is. --part0_910827774_boundary Content-ID: <[email protected]_out.mail.compuserve.com.2> Content-type: message/rfc822 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Content-disposition: inline Return-Path: <[email protected]> Received: from rly-ya03.mx.aol.com (rly-ya03.mail.aol.com [172.18.144.195]) by air-ya01.mail.aol.com (v51.16) with SMTP; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 16:25:37 -0500 Received: from dub-img-1.compuserve.com (dub-img-1.compuserve.com [149.174.206.131]) by rly-ya03.mx.aol.com (8.8.8/8.8.5/AOL-4.0.0) with ESMTP id QAA21040 for <[email protected]>; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 16:25:35 -0500 (EST) Received: (from [email protected]) by dub-img-1.compuserve.com (8.8.6/8.8.6/2.16) id QAA13410 for [email protected]; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 16:25:33 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 16:23:11 -0500 From: PSandford <[email protected]> Subject: Online San(d)ford info Sender: PSandford <[email protected]> To: Sandie Gage <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Disposition: inline Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Hello Sandie! As one who is attempting to run rather rudementary pilot websites for a number of interest groups I belong to, I have every admiration for the tenacity and commitment you have shown in running the List. Might I suggest that it could be easier for you and for researchers if the list was dropped, and all communications done via the website. By this, I mean each member would post their interests profile and a zip file of Gedcom data if they have one, rather like they do on the Compuserve Forum. A Directory of members area/connection interests with email addresses and web addresses would then enable other members or anyone to target contacts. It would be made clear (as I think it is on your website already) what the purpose of the site is. By this I mean it is not really for general historical or topographical chit chat, but for Genealogy. The India Roots list I receive in Digest form has been cluttered with recipes, poems, enquiries of a historical & topographic nature, ethnic and political issues, etc Most folk just don't have time to wade through all that...and the file is often too big even in Digest mode to save (eg 50K+), without forwarding to enable deletion of the gobbledegook header. I suggest that using a website is much more efficient. The Genserv model may be the ideal, if resources can be found to adopt this approach. Thereby, readers 'pull' the info they want rather than having any irrelevant info 'pushed' at them. Finaly, may I suggest we have a parallel with the neighborhood Residents Association. For some its a social club, whereas for others it's a body which exists to help one solve local problems. I suggest family history research fall in the latter category. In the GENUKI network here in Britain, individuals who offer specific look-up services are posted on a County specific website. Similarly, a table of people with access to particular SANFORD reference materials would feature in a website. A web delivery should make it a more international venture, as Genserv is. I hope my suggestions may point the way to making things easier for you! Indeed, you probably have some of the features already on the website. Lets build on that and hopefully lighten your load. Paul Sandford --part0_910827774_boundary-- ---------------End of Original Message----------------- mailto:[email protected] See web page to join CARRICK/KERRICK Mail list web page: http://www.cyberramp.net/~gcarrick Researching: C*ARRICK, L*ITTLE, S*HANKLIN, S*ANFORD, M*OORE, G*AMBLE, V*AN V*LECK, & M*CELHINNEY. Gil Carrick, 1012 Portofino Dr., Arlington, TX, 76012

Hello Shan, I am sorry that someone offended you, I am sure that it wasn't meant to do so. I sincerely apologize for you being offended. I can see both sides of the coin. I can appreciate that you took the statement as personal. But I feel it wasn't mean't personal. You have got to realize that the idea that was trying to be put across was the misuse of lists. And it does happen. Spam etc. is very hard on list members and I have seen where lists were shut down with reply to, reply to, reply messages. It doesn't hurt, in my opinion to get off subject every once in a while if it isn't over done, but it is very hard to control. Perhaps we should be more careful in what we say and think twice. You never know.. And I really hope I don't offend anyone with my opinion.. Sincerely Sandie

unsubscribe -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Monday, November 09, 1998 5:55 PM Subject: (no subject) >I am looking for someone to take over the Sanford mailing list. I just >don't have the time to properly care for it. If someone just wants to >take care of the list as a moderator that would be fine or the list >could be change to reflect them as listowner. I really don't care just >as long as this list can get up and moving again. As I said before >there are too many new subscribers that we are losing because of >inactivity. Please consider this for me. > >As for the website. I spend hours working on it. There are a lot of >corrections and a lot of sources still to be added. It will be at least >another month before I feel I can update it. >But for the new subs the url is >http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Ranch/4453 > >Please feel free to send corrections and suggestions. > >Good Hunting >Sandie >[email protected] >[email protected] (Temporary) >

This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --part0_910827774_boundary Content-ID: <[email protected]_out.mail.aol.com.1> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Hello List.. This is a suggestion I got this evening from one of our researchers. (the only reason I am not giving his name is because I didn't ask him if I could} I am wondering how many would be willing to post a profile and gedcom. I am also asking how many have the material and would be willing to be listed to do look-ups. Please let me know Sandie > > By this, I mean each member would post their interests profile and a zip > file of Gedcom data if they have one, rather like they do on the Compuserve > Forum. A Directory of members area/connection interests with email > addresses and web addresses would then enable other members or anyone to > target contacts. > > It would be made clear (as I think it is on your website already) what the > purpose of the site is. By this I mean it is not really for general > historical or topographical chit chat, but for Genealogy. > issues, etc > > I suggest that using a website is much more efficient. The Genserv model > may be the ideal, if resources can be found to adopt this approach. > Thereby, readers 'pull' the info they want rather than having any > irrelevant info 'pushed' at them. > > Finaly, may I suggest we have a parallel with the neighborhood Residents > Association. For some its a social club, whereas for others it's a body > which exists to help one solve local problems. I suggest family history > research fall in the latter category. > > In the GENUKI network here in Britain, individuals who offer specific > look-up services are posted on a County specific website. Similarly, a > table of people with access to particular SANFORD reference materials would > feature in a website. A web delivery should make it a more international > venture, as Genserv is. --part0_910827774_boundary Content-ID: <[email protected]_out.mail.compuserve.com.2> Content-type: message/rfc822 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Content-disposition: inline Return-Path: <[email protected]> Received: from rly-ya03.mx.aol.com (rly-ya03.mail.aol.com [172.18.144.195]) by air-ya01.mail.aol.com (v51.16) with SMTP; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 16:25:37 -0500 Received: from dub-img-1.compuserve.com (dub-img-1.compuserve.com [149.174.206.131]) by rly-ya03.mx.aol.com (8.8.8/8.8.5/AOL-4.0.0) with ESMTP id QAA21040 for <[email protected]>; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 16:25:35 -0500 (EST) Received: (from [email protected]) by dub-img-1.compuserve.com (8.8.6/8.8.6/2.16) id QAA13410 for [email protected]; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 16:25:33 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 16:23:11 -0500 From: PSandford <[email protected]> Subject: Online San(d)ford info Sender: PSandford <[email protected]> To: Sandie Gage <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Disposition: inline Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Hello Sandie! As one who is attempting to run rather rudementary pilot websites for a number of interest groups I belong to, I have every admiration for the tenacity and commitment you have shown in running the List. Might I suggest that it could be easier for you and for researchers if the list was dropped, and all communications done via the website. By this, I mean each member would post their interests profile and a zip file of Gedcom data if they have one, rather like they do on the Compuserve Forum. A Directory of members area/connection interests with email addresses and web addresses would then enable other members or anyone to target contacts. It would be made clear (as I think it is on your website already) what the purpose of the site is. By this I mean it is not really for general historical or topographical chit chat, but for Genealogy. The India Roots list I receive in Digest form has been cluttered with recipes, poems, enquiries of a historical & topographic nature, ethnic and political issues, etc Most folk just don't have time to wade through all that...and the file is often too big even in Digest mode to save (eg 50K+), without forwarding to enable deletion of the gobbledegook header. I suggest that using a website is much more efficient. The Genserv model may be the ideal, if resources can be found to adopt this approach. Thereby, readers 'pull' the info they want rather than having any irrelevant info 'pushed' at them. Finaly, may I suggest we have a parallel with the neighborhood Residents Association. For some its a social club, whereas for others it's a body which exists to help one solve local problems. I suggest family history research fall in the latter category. In the GENUKI network here in Britain, individuals who offer specific look-up services are posted on a County specific website. Similarly, a table of people with access to particular SANFORD reference materials would feature in a website. A web delivery should make it a more international venture, as Genserv is. I hope my suggestions may point the way to making things easier for you! Indeed, you probably have some of the features already on the website. Lets build on that and hopefully lighten your load. Paul Sandford --part0_910827774_boundary--

I am looking for someone to take over the Sanford mailing list. I just don't have the time to properly care for it. If someone just wants to take care of the list as a moderator that would be fine or the list could be change to reflect them as listowner. I really don't care just as long as this list can get up and moving again. As I said before there are too many new subscribers that we are losing because of inactivity. Please consider this for me. As for the website. I spend hours working on it. There are a lot of corrections and a lot of sources still to be added. It will be at least another month before I feel I can update it. But for the new subs the url is http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Ranch/4453 Please feel free to send corrections and suggestions. Good Hunting Sandie [email protected] [email protected] (Temporary)

In a message dated 11/2/1998 8:56:23 AM Central Standard Time, [email protected] writes: << Can someone point me in a direction to find out which families migrated and where in Brazil? >> If you will subscribe to the Portugal List, someone there can help you. There is also a Brazil List. [email protected] [email protected] Julia Florida/USA

Rooters, I recently heard that after the Civil War some families in the South migrated to Brazil and started a new Southern Society. Can someone point me in a direction to find out which families migrated and where in Brazil? I cannot find some of my ancestors so maybe they went to Brazil. Howard

You might want to check into information about the city, Americana, in Brazil. According to the book, "The Brazilians", by Joseph A. Page, page 101, he tells about the encouragement of German immigration.. He wrote, "In addition, after the American Civil War, the emperor offered inducements that attracted as many as twenty thousand white southerners from the United States. Some settled in the Amazon region, but the majority made their way to the state of Sao Paulo, where they founded the town of Americana." I'm not an expert about this -- I just have a son who is a missionary about 50 miles from Americana! Annette [email protected] wrote: > Rooters, > I recently heard that after the Civil War some families in the South migrated > to Brazil and started a new Southern Society. Can someone point me in a > direction to find out which families migrated and where in Brazil? I cannot > find some of my ancestors so maybe they went to Brazil. > Howard

Margaret: You wrote: To: Debbie and Bill Van Scoy who wrote requesting information on Morgan Sanford of Elmore Co.,AL, I have his lineage as far back as the Alabama records go. In Alabama: Generation 1: * Caswell Polk Sanford, Sr. , b ca 1775, North Carolina, wife unknown: Children: Generation 2: **Sheppard Sanford, b ca 1805, Poss. Jefferson Co. Ga. d 3-Sep-1877 in AL, married before 1830 to Harriet ? , b. 1816 James Turner Sanford, Sr. m. Elizabeth Bush Caswell Polk Sanford, Jr. m. Angelina Lovejoy John Morgan Sanford, Sr. m. Bethena Kimbrell by second wife: Mary ? Everline Sanford m. Mabry Hilliard Lovejoy (my grgrgrandparents) Samuel Bright Sanford m. Lovely Sears Green W.Sanford m. Dora Ann Edwards Arthur Sanford m. Mary Ann Collier Elizabeth Sanford m. Herod Bush Benjamin H. Sanford m. Mary Ann Trice Catherine Sanford Francis J. Sanford d. Civil War Martha (Misty) Sanford m. John H. Green Charles Wesley Sanford m. Rebecca A. Duncan Mark White Sanford d. Civil War Mary F. Sanford m. William H. Johnson Stephanus Sanford Children of Sheppard Sanford and Harriet Unknown: James Henry Sanford m. Martha Jane Sanford (l) Mary Melina Grier (2) ***Samuel Bright Sanford b 1835 marr. Mary T. Dennis b. 1835 on 3-Oct-1853 Coosa Co. AL, Marr. BK B, p. 259 Lenora Sanford E. Green Sanford Elmira C. Sanford m. Elzey F. Brown John Sanford m. M. E. Freeman Mary Sanford Francis Sanford Caswell Sanford Saxon Sanford Maria Sanford children of Samuel Bright Sanford and Mary T. Dennis: Mary M. Sanford m. William Jasper Grier Georgia Ann Sanford m. William Henry Holley ****Samuel Morgan Sanford b. 1862 marr. Mattie Lou Wicker b. 1861, d. 1932; marr. on 9-Nov-1884 Elmore Co.AL buried BAM Church Cemetery, Elmore Co., AL Laura Belle E. Sanford m. William Henry Holley Joseph Sanford children of Samuel Morgan Sanford and Mattie Lou Wicker: Samuel Cody Sanford, Sr. m. Gertie Mae Linch James Newton Sanford m. Madie Katherine Lyles *****Cellie Kyle Sanford m. Nell ? (l), Eunice Evans (2) b. 1891, d. ? poss. Louisiana Joe C. Sanford m. Vola Dennis Robert Owen Sanford m. Mary Etta C. Fuller Lee T. Sanford As you can see, I have marked your line with asterisks. Caswell Polk Sanford, Sr. Sheppard Sanford Samuel Bright Sanford Samuel Morgan Sanford Cellie Kyle Sanford Hope this helps. If you want additional information, please E-Mail me. [email protected] I have extensive information on these Sanfords for several generations. Your grandfather and I are third cousins, once removed. My line is from Caswell Polk Sanford, Sr. Eveline Sanford m. Mabry Hilliard Lovejoy Elverene Lovejoy m. Abner Ward Jordan Reason Mabry Jordan m. Willie Susan Evans Meyer Jordan m. Ola Erline Mellown (me) Margaret J. Lawless I have been searching for info on my Grandfather's family for sometime however, I continue to beat my head against the proverbial brick wall. When I read your email I thought I would write you to see if your Green Sanford could be some connection. My grandfather was Green Berry (Greenberry) Sanford born 3/28/1878, do not know where. Believe his father was Greenberry Sanford born about 1852 in Mississippi. He married 1st: Mary ?? born about 1855 in La. and had children Green, William, and Samuel married 2nd: Elizabeth ?? born about 1862, do not know where. Anyway I was hoping maybe you might have something on his family. Yvonne Sanford Horner

To: Debbie and Bill Van Scoy who wrote requesting information on Morgan Sanford of Elmore Co.,AL, I have his lineage as far back as the Alabama records go. In Alabama: Generation 1: * Caswell Polk Sanford, Sr. , b ca 1775, North Carolina, wife unknown: Children: Generation 2: **Sheppard Sanford, b ca 1805, Poss. Jefferson Co. Ga. d 3-Sep-1877 in AL, married before 1830 to Harriet ? , b. 1816 James Turner Sanford, Sr. m. Elizabeth Bush Caswell Polk Sanford, Jr. m. Angelina Lovejoy John Morgan Sanford, Sr. m. Bethena Kimbrell by second wife: Mary ? Everline Sanford m. Mabry Hilliard Lovejoy (my grgrgrandparents) Samuel Bright Sanford m. Lovely Sears Green W.Sanford m. Dora Ann Edwards Arthur Sanford m. Mary Ann Collier Elizabeth Sanford m. Herod Bush Benjamin H. Sanford m. Mary Ann Trice Catherine Sanford Francis J. Sanford d. Civil War Martha (Misty) Sanford m. John H. Green Charles Wesley Sanford m. Rebecca A. Duncan Mark White Sanford d. Civil War Mary F. Sanford m. William H. Johnson Stephanus Sanford Children of Sheppard Sanford and Harriet Unknown: James Henry Sanford m. Martha Jane Sanford (l) Mary Melina Grier (2) ***Samuel Bright Sanford b 1835 marr. Mary T. Dennis b. 1835 on 3-Oct-1853 Coosa Co. AL, Marr. BK B, p. 259 Lenora Sanford E. Green Sanford Elmira C. Sanford m. Elzey F. Brown John Sanford m. M. E. Freeman Mary Sanford Francis Sanford Caswell Sanford Saxon Sanford Maria Sanford children of Samuel Bright Sanford and Mary T. Dennis: Mary M. Sanford m. William Jasper Grier Georgia Ann Sanford m. William Henry Holley ****Samuel Morgan Sanford b. 1862 marr. Mattie Lou Wicker b. 1861, d. 1932; marr. on 9-Nov-1884 Elmore Co.AL buried BAM Church Cemetery, Elmore Co., AL Laura Belle E. Sanford m. William Henry Holley Joseph Sanford children of Samuel Morgan Sanford and Mattie Lou Wicker: Samuel Cody Sanford, Sr. m. Gertie Mae Linch James Newton Sanford m. Madie Katherine Lyles *****Cellie Kyle Sanford m. Nell ? (l), Eunice Evans (2) b. 1891, d. ? poss. Louisiana Joe C. Sanford m. Vola Dennis Robert Owen Sanford m. Mary Etta C. Fuller Lee T. Sanford As you can see, I have marked your line with asterisks. Caswell Polk Sanford, Sr. Sheppard Sanford Samuel Bright Sanford Samuel Morgan Sanford Cellie Kyle Sanford Hope this helps. If you want additional information, please E-Mail me. [email protected] I have extensive information on these Sanfords for several generations. Your grandfather and I are third cousins, once removed. My line is from Caswell Polk Sanford, Sr. Eveline Sanford m. Mabry Hilliard Lovejoy Elverene Lovejoy m. Abner Ward Jordan Reason Mabry Jordan m. Willie Susan Evans Meyer Jordan m. Ola Erline Mellown (me) Margaret J. Lawless

Sorry, I have never made a connection to the SANFORD's from the New England states. David At 01:08 PM 10/10/98 -0400, you wrote: >David E. McCarley wrote: >> >> Seeking the parents and siblings of my great great great grandfather, >> Caswell Polk SANFORD, Sr., born ca 1778 allegedly somewhere in NC. >> >> Caswell was in Jefferson County, GA in 1803 along with Samuel, Benjamin, >> Thomas, and John SANFORD. Would love to know their relationship, if any, >> to Caswell. Caswell was in Autauga County, AL by 1819 and in Coosa County, >> AL by 1835. >> >> David >Seeking sibling and information about my grandfather, Casper Sanford, I >believe born in N.Y., March 10, circa 1885 married to Mary Koczian, of >Hungarian decent, birthday Dec 24, 1895. Sister to Casper is Wilhelmina >birthdate unknown. Uncle Karl Koczian was a glass blower, a trade >brought over to the US and taught to my Uncle Karl Sanford, who was in >the trade until he retired and moved to Florida about 20 years ago. >Marianne > >

David E. McCarley wrote: > > Seeking the parents and siblings of my great great great grandfather, > Caswell Polk SANFORD, Sr., born ca 1778 allegedly somewhere in NC. > > Caswell was in Jefferson County, GA in 1803 along with Samuel, Benjamin, > Thomas, and John SANFORD. Would love to know their relationship, if any, > to Caswell. Caswell was in Autauga County, AL by 1819 and in Coosa County, > AL by 1835. > > David Seeking sibling and information about my grandfather, Casper Sanford, I believe born in N.Y., March 10, circa 1885 married to Mary Koczian, of Hungarian decent, birthday Dec 24, 1895. Sister to Casper is Wilhelmina birthdate unknown. Uncle Karl Koczian was a glass blower, a trade brought over to the US and taught to my Uncle Karl Sanford, who was in the trade until he retired and moved to Florida about 20 years ago. Marianne

Seeking the parents and siblings of my great great great grandfather, Caswell Polk SANFORD, Sr., born ca 1778 allegedly somewhere in NC. Caswell was in Jefferson County, GA in 1803 along with Samuel, Benjamin, Thomas, and John SANFORD. Would love to know their relationship, if any, to Caswell. Caswell was in Autauga County, AL by 1819 and in Coosa County, AL by 1835. David

Hoping you might have some information on Hezekiah Sanford of Stueben Co, NY. His son was Sylvester, who was the father of my grandfather Adelbert Fay Sanford, born in Wayland Twp., Steuben County. Alice Westfall -----Original Message----- From: John Sanford <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Friday, October 09, 1998 12:27 AM Subject: America's First Families query, from Paula >Dear Paula, > Alfred Sanford WOODRUFF #3700, b 27 Dec 1826 - d. 21 Feb 1900, was >the Son of Mary (Polly) SANFORD WOODRUFF #1545, and Benjamin WOODRUFF. >I am happy to say that Mary 'Polly' Sanford was an older sister of my >great grandfather, Andrew SANFORD, of Steuben Co. NY. and later in >Seneca Co. OH. Ggrandfather Andrew SANFORD owned a farm about two >miles from where I was born on another farm there near Attica, Ohio. > > I have a great amount of SANFORD records, especially of the >descendants of John SANFORD, and most of their children. Apparently >your husband and I have 'common ancestors', who are John & Sarah >(MILLER) SANFORD, of Long Pond, NJ. and Steuben Co. NY. He was born in >1774 at Newark, NJ. I would like very much to hear from you, and to see >the 'direct line' of ancestry from your husband to our John SANFORD, of >Steuben Co. NY. > > The reference #s are in the "Thomas Sanford Books", on pages 219 >and 361, of my copies of those books. Hope to hear from you, and see >that 'direct line' connection. Another cousin, John Sanford of CA. >6223 Prospect Ave. San Jose, CA. [email protected] >

I'm just beginning research on my SANFORD line. All I have are a few names, a location, & a time period. Would anyone be willing to see if there are any entries in whatever Sanford genealogies are available, & thus provide me with a definate starting off point? John SANFORD m. Annie Jane JACKSON John was an attorney in Eagle Pass, Maverick County, Texas, during the early 1900s. I've heard he later became a judge, but I don't know what type or when. I don't know the date John & Annie were wed. An aunt of mine has said that John had a younger brother, Roger, who lived with John & Annie after the brothers' parents had died. Any truth to this? If possilbe, would whoever kindly assists me with this, mail me photocopies of the entries (I'm hoping there is one of John, Annie, & their family; & one for John's parents.) Thank you for your time, help, & consideration. Peace, love, joy, Cher [email protected] 601 Stoneleigh Avenue Unit 612 Carmel, New York 10512-2404 U.S.A.