judith, this is my sandidge line through anthony gholson and mary sandidge, but i am wondering if i am crazy. dont you have a powell line too. havent i seen postings where you are working on a powell line? maybe its someone else. i just thought it would be unusual that we both had a powell and a sandidge line. betty ----- Original Message ----- From: Judy M. <jmurphy@erinet.com> To: <SANDIDGE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 16, 1999 4:29 PM Subject: Re: [SANDIDGE-L] Thomas Sandidge/Sandage/Sandige > Not proven, but an old genealogist (she is in late 90's now and haven't > gotten response to my letters as to WHERE she found this info) told me that > John, b ca 1666 england and d 1708 New Kent VA (your #1) was son of (Col) > James Thomas Sandwich, b ca 1620 England -- said that James went by Thomas > and James both in records she found.(sure wish I knew WHAT records those > were and where they are located........) > > Said that your #1 John Sandidge had wife #2 Kathleen Pendleton and his > first wife was Mary Vaughn. Mentions a son of his William baptized Jul 10, > 1698 New Kent Co, VA St. Peter's Parish and this would be your #2 on list. > She told me that John and Mary Vaughn also had son Thomas Sanbige, b 1691 > New Kent Co, VA or Albemarle/Spotsylvania Cos in VA and spouse of Frances > Choppell/Chappelle who you also show as your #2 and Thomas' son as #3 > Nathan. But so far I have never PROVEN any of this and also seek the proof > that Thomas and Mary Vaughn are parents of Nathan. > > It is said that Thomas and Frances (Choppell) Sanbige/Sandidge moved from > VA to SC and this ALSO I am trying to find info on -- where in SC did they > move, and who are the other children that they had, when and where did they > die, etc. > > I really doubt that this person listed in book is the Thomas who married > Frances Choppell, and if willed to him he would have been 17 years old and > this would have been after his father John died 1708. I still haven't > figured out where they got this 1701 since the quote didn't say anything > about this being date of land transfers in the book......... > > Now John had to have come from England AFTER 1666 timeframe since this is > when he was supposed to have been born in England -- and yet nothing I find > anywhere shows that his father James (Thomas) actually stayed in England -- > for all we know his father aka Thomas may have come to VA with John and may > be the Thomas mentioned in this land grant if the actual date really IS > 1701. Of course many times grandchildren DO get land upon death of a > grandfather, so who is to say that this was not land that James Thomas > Sandwich may have owned (if he came to America too). > > Just making assumptions and talking "out loud" my thoughts as I have been > trying to prove this stuff for 35 years........ > > As for the Thomas and Frances' child being in civil war -- I really doubt > this since this is around 100 years!!! after Nathan was said to have been > born (ca 1754) and I believe it is said that Thomas and Frances also had > another son, William (again haven't proven the children of Thomas and > Frances and still seeking all their names) who also was supposed to have > been born around the same timeframe -- so it is VERY UNLIKELY that this is > the SAME Thomas and Frances' child who was in civil war. War of 1812 or > even Rev War would have been more like it, so this is probably ANOTHER > Thomas and Frances. > > Just my 2cents worth and HOPING in my lifetime that someone finds proof of > Nathan's parents really being Thomas and Frances (Choppell), and getting > proof of all our older ancestors back to England, Ireland, Scotland or > WHEREVER they came from...... > > Judith Sandage Murphy > (Judy M.) > > At 11:22 AM 9/17/1999 EDT, you wrote: > >Hello, everyone, > > > >I haven't talked to Mr. Sandige again but I was looking on my family tree > and > >there is a Thomas Sandidge/Sandage/Sandige who married a Francis. Does > >anyone have proof of this Thomas who married Frances Chappell and his birth > >of 1691? Mr. Sandige had a Thomas also who married a Francis. A note I > have > >from a past message from the Sandidge list said the following: > > > >(Date: 98-07-19 21:25:50 EDT > >From: janie@discoverynet.com (carolyn s jackson) > >To: SANDIDGE-L@rootsweb.com > > > >A couple years ago when I was researching in Virginia-land I found the > >following that mentions Thomas Sanadge (Sandage?): > > > >It is from "Cavaliers & Pioneers" Abstracts of Virginia Land Patents & > >Grants, Patent Book # 9, Page 55: > > > >CHICHELEY CORBIN THACKER, 3080 acs., K. & Q. Co., in Pamunkey Neck; 12 > >Nov. 1701/2, p. 427. Beg. in Darrell's line; to Perry's Sw; near North > >Wales Path; by runn of the up. Herring Cr; to Mr. Whitehead's line, & c. > >Trans. of 62 pers: ............THOMAS SANADGE > > > >Could this possibly be Thomas as of Thomas & Frances Chappell? What do > >you think? I do have the names of the other 61 persons, if anyone > >thinks they need it.) End of that message. > > > >Now if Thomas Sandidge/Sandige/ Sandage/Sanadge was born 1691, would he be > >mentioned about land in 1701? I don't have this book so don't know if > Thomas > >was getting land or selling land or what? That would make Thomas 10 yrs > >old. Mr. Sandige had two brothers leaving Scotland around 1650 which would > >make Thomas in 1701 older than fifty. > > > >I also see what Jean McGee saw about Henry, son of Thomas & Francis Sandige, > >killed in the Civil War. I'll ask Mr. Sandige some of these things when I > >get a chance to talk to him. Remember he was getting this info from a great > >aunt who probably got it from stories handed down from her ancestors. My > >ancestors have said that William was of Swedish descent and married > Elizabeth > >Taylor which we haven't proven and now think otherwise. Rita > > > >My family tree has the following: > > > >Descendants of John Sandidge > > > > 1 John Sandidge b: 1666 in England d: 1708 New Kent County, VA > > >.. +Mary Vaughn b: 1670 in England d: Aft 1707 VA Father: > >Mother: > > 2 William Sandidge, Sr b: Bef July 10, 1698 in New Kent County, VA > >d: Aft March 11, 1746/47 Spotsylvania County, VA > >... +Ann (Holliday) Pulliam b: Bef November 22, 1702 in New Kent County, > >VA d: 1794 Louisa County, VA m: 1718 in VA Father: William Pulliam > >Mother: Ann Patterson > >. 3 William (Sandridge) Sandidge, Jr b: 1719 in Spotsylvania Co, VA > >d: July 1777 Albemarle Co, VA > >..... +Elizabeth (Betty) Graves b: February 14, 1719/20 in > >Spotsylvania Co, VA d: January 6, 1826 Green Co, Ky m: 1740 in Spotsylvania > >Co, VA Father: John Graves, Jr Mother: Frances Coleman > >. 3 Mary Sandidge b: 1720 d: 1783 Halifax Co, VA > >..... +Anthony Gholston b: 1708 in Spotsylvania County, VA d: 1779 > >Halifax Co, VA m: 1742 in Spotsylvania County, VA Father: Anthony > Gholston > >Mother: Jane ? > >. *2nd Husband of Mary Sandidge: > >..... +John Brown m: August 8, 1788 in Halifax Co, VA Father: > >Mother: > >. 3 David Sandidge b: 1728 in Spotsylvania County, VA d: December 10, > >1802 Shackle Fords, King & Queen Co, VA > >..... +Ann W. Pulliam b: 1734 in <Spotsylvania Co, VA> m: in > >Spotsylvania County, VA Father: Thomas Pullliam Mother: Winifred Holliday > >. 3 James Sandidge b: May 22, 1730 in Spotsylvania County, VA d: Abt > >1810 Louisa County, VA > >..... +Jane (Anne) Shelton b: May 22, 1730 in Spotsylvania Co, VA > >d: Abt 1811 Louisa Co, VA Father: Ralph Shelton Mother: Mary Pollard > >. 3 John Sandidge b: Aft June 1730 in St George's Parish Spotsylvania > >County, VA d: 1803 Amherst County, VA > >..... +Keziah Gatewood b: 1730 in King & Queen Co, VA d: Bef 1796 > >Amherst Co., VA m: Abt 1752 in VA Father: Henry Gatewood Mother: > >Dorothy Dudley > > 2 Thomas Sandidge b: 1691 > >... +Frances Chappell m: February 20, 1711/12 in Albemarle Co, > >VA Father: Mother: > >. 3 Nathan Sandidge > >..... +Mary Canady/Kennedy Father: Mother: > > > > > > > >