Hi, Cousins, I am forwarding this message from Brian so that you will be informed about this policy in case you are on another surname list or plan on joining other on Rootsweb. We have had a listowner of another surname on Rootsweb ask for money and also ask the members of his list fill out information about themselves. Rita

I posted to reply to all and I see it did not post. Bible printed 1818-J. Holbrook Sterotype copy Copied by Dolores Stelling from bible held by Clarence Morin-Middletown, Calif. ca 1965 Heading- M. C. BARNETT-Book presented by L. Sandridge Larkin Sandridge and Nancy Ann Vaughn was married the first day of February 1782 AD. James Givens and Harriet Sandridge was married the 22 day of March 1815. Wm. C. Barnett and Harriet Givens late Harriet Sandridge was married the 23 day of December 1819. Delphid Sandridge daughter of Larkin, and Nancy Ann Sandridge, his wife was born the 19th of February AD 1789. Ealeanor (sic) Sandridge, daughter of Larkin and Nancy Ann Sandridge, his wife, was born the 12 of February AD 1791. Martin Sandridge, son of Larkin and Nancy Ann Sandridge, his wife was born July the 1st, 1793. Meakin Sandridge, son of Larkin and Nancy Ann Sandridge, his wife was born December 20, 1796. Harriet Sandridge, daughter of Larkin and Nancy Ann Sandridge his wife was born June 22, 1799. Larkin Sandridge Givens, son of James V.? (Givens) and Harriet Givens was born the 4th November 1816, Nancy Ann Sandridge departed this life 23 day of April 1821 A.D. Larkin Sandridge departed this life on 15 December 1826-6 AM James Givens died on 27th of January 1819. Josiah Morin and Harriet Barnett Sandridge was married the 1st day of March 1831. Josiah Morin Jr. was born the 29th of July 1834. Nelson F. Morin was born the 4th day of February 1837. Martin Vanburen Morin was born 16th March 1840. Richard Morin was born 1842. Ealearnor(sic)Morin daughter of Josiah Morin and Harriett, his wife was born 12th Jan. 1832. Rachel Barnett Daughter of Wm. C. Barnett and Harriet his wife was born 25 day of Sept. 1820. Joseph Meekins Barnett, son of William C. and Harriet Barnett was born 2nd February 1823. Nathan Barnett son of Wm. C. and Harriet Barnett was born 28th day of February 1825. Mary Ann Barnett daughter of Wm. C. and Harriet Barnett born 15 August 1827. Rachel Barnett daughter of William C. and Harriet Barnett departed this life 2 September 1822. Mary Ann Barnett daughter of William C. and Harriet Barnett departed this life, 2nd Sept. 1829. Wm. C. Barnett, departed this life September 17, 1829. Nathan Barnett son of Wm. C. and Harriett Barnett departed 4 Sept. 1841. Polly Ship married Josiah Morin 4 July 1813-15. John Walker Born 5 Feb 1826, died 16 Feb 1895. age 69 yrs. 10 days. Eleanor Walker departed 11 July 1895. 63-1/2 yrs Larkin Sandridge Givens departed 13 day January 1860. Harriett Morin departed 10 May 1868. End Cheers. Dolores morin@alaska.net

>Larkin Sandidge is the son of John and Keziah Gatewood Sandige. Dear Sandidge cousins, I'm glad I can finally make a contribution to the group! From the following, it seems that there is a Larkin, son of James. James would have been a brother of Austin, Winnie, Ann and Sophia? Sandidge. Is this correct? I am also wondering if there is any documentation for the birth places of Mary Vaughn and Patience Coleman as being Mercer Co. Julie Crosswell jcross@metronet.com Extracted from "Virginia Soldiers of 1776" p.68 Your memorialist, represents to your Excellency, that Austin Sandridge, the brother of Ann Bronaugh and Wini-fred Boxley, was an officer in the Va. line of the Rev. army. He died intestate, about the year 1822 or 24, and without issue, leaving a widow, Mary Sandridge surviving him. He devised in his will his landed estate to his sisters above mentioned namely Ann, wife of David Bronaugh, and Winifred the wife of Joseph Boxley--all of whom are now living in Louisa county. The said Austin Sandridge, at the time of his death was a resident of Spottsylvania Co. where his will is recorded. p.76 Samuel Cobb.--Richard Taylor.--James Barnett.--William Hudson.--Austin Sandridge --and John Bell. This was signed by William Woodford, Brig. Genl. White p.77 All supernys in all the lists drew their bounty land with the exception of Captain Colston and Lieuts. Sandridge and Livingston. They have also drawn additional land for term longer than six years, from the commencement of their service, to the end of the war. p.336 The following were of Fredericksville Parish, Albemarle. James Dunn, aet. 80, living with James Dunn, Jr.-James Gentry, aet. 82.--William Harris, Sr., aet. 80, living with William Harris, Jr. William Jordan, aet. 79. William Maupin, aet. 80, living with William Maupin, Jr.--Richard Snow, aet. 86. John Wood, Sr. aet. 83.--Larkin Foster, Amelia Co. aet. 79.--Boswell Richards, aet. 53. p.425/6 Lieutenant Austin Sandridge. Spotsylvania Co. court, Sept. term, 1853. Whereas, Larkin Sandridge, a son of James Sandridge, decd. and heir at law of Austin Sandridge, decd. who was a Lieut. in the Va. Contl. line of the Rev. war,--was entitled to his share of military land, has within the past six or seven years died, leaving one heir, a daughter, who in the year 1852, also died. Therefore the only heirs at law of said Austin Sandridge are:--1st, The children of Ann Bronaugh, decd. These are Mary G. Taylor, Elizabeth Trice, Thomas, David, John, William, Jeremiah and James Bronaugh; 2nd, The children of Winfred Boxley, namely: James and Pattison Boxley, Winifred Goodwin, Mrs. Mary Massey, Ann Boxley, Sarah Turner, George and Joseph Tyler; and 3rd., The children and heirs of James Holladay (who married Sophia Sandridge, a sister of Austin Sandridge); namely:-- Elizabeth Holladay (dau. of James and Sophia); Mary B. Frazer (dau. of Lewis Holladay, a son of James); Ellen M. Stewart (dau. of Dr. James Holladay); and Elizabeth and Mary Hughes (two children of Sophia Hol-laday, who married Lundin J. Schooler, and who was a daughter of James Holladay) also William J. Reason and Ann Rawlings (two children of Ann Holladay, daughter of James). Signed, Elizabeth Holladay and Mary G. Tyler. Sworn to before W. H. Hansbrough, J. of P. 31st Aug., 1853. Whereupon it is ordered to be certified that the heirs of Austin Sandridge have been proven to this court, by the affidavits of Elizabeth Holladay and Mary G. Tyler. Copy teste, Robert Dabney, Clerk. 25 July, 1854. p.426 Note. Dr. James Holladay is said to be a grandson of James Holladay, and the Sophia who married Lundin Schooler is a question as to whether she is James wife, and married a second time, or if she is a later Sophia. The so called legal language is so unintelligible that the courts can find Satisfactory proofs where I fail to find lucid information. In the foregoing mixture of names, I hope those interested may solve the maze of relationships. I have copied it as the clerk copied it from court records. Powers of Atty.: Mary Massie of Louisa County, as heir at law of Austin Sandridge, appointed George W. Stephens of Spotsylvania Co. her Atty. 24 Sept., 1853. Ackn. before E. F. Gunter(?), J. of P. Louisa Co., Attest, David M. Hunter, Clerk. The same Atty. appointed by Mary G. Tyler, George Tyler, Mary B. Frazer and Ellen M. Stewart. Ackn. before W. H. Hamsbrough, J. of P. Spotsnia Co. 2 Sept., 1853. Elizabeth S. Holladay, William J. Cason, Ann Rawlings, James and Pattison Boxley Ackn. the same power of Atty. before E. S. Leavell, J. of P. Spotsia Co. 1st Sept., 1853. Attest, Robert C. Dabney, Clerk. Elizabeth and Mary Hughes, heirs at law of James Hol-laday, decd. who was one of the heirs at law of Austin San-dridge, appointed the same Atty. Ackn. before John Dows, J. of P. Clarke Co., Va. 25 Oct., 1853. Teste, David H. McGuire Clerk. Clarke Co., 26 Oct., 1853. p.427 Warrant No. 9561 for 666-2acres issued 8 Nov., 1853 to the heirs generally of Austin Sandridge, a Lieut. in the Contl. line. Recorded Book 3, page 569. The following data is from the documents on file in the Archives Dept. of the Va. State Library: Exec. Dept., Richmond, Va. June 1st, 1841. The heirs of Austin Sandridge are allowed L. B. for his services as a Lieut. in the State line for the term of three years. John Rutherford, Lieut. Gov. Teste, S. H. Parker, Register. Copied from the certificate of Allowance on file in the Land Office. --End of extract

I think this one was b ca 1755 Amherst Co, VA and might help Cindy in making her choice. > 2 Pulliam Sandidge d: Abt 1803 Amherst Co., VA >.. +Lucy Hudson m: Abt 1780 Also, I am curious -- who does the Joshua (who married Mary Hoag) descend from? I don't think I have seen this family mentioned here before and don't seem to find in my charts either: >Descendants of Joshua Sandidge > 1 Joshua Sandidge b: 1812 in Lincoln Co, KY >.. +Mary Hoag b: Abt 1813 in Lincoln Co, KY m: April >16, 1834 Judy M.

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Hi, Judy, Larkin Sandidge is the son of John and Keziah Gatewood Sandige. Descendants of Larkin Sandidge 1 Larkin Sandidge b: 1750 in Spotsylvania County, VA d: 1800 Lincoln Co, KY .. +Mary Vaughn b: in Mercer Co, VA d: Lincoln Co, KY m: 1780 2 John W. Sandidge b: 1781 in Mercer Co, VA d: March 27, 1863 Lincoln Co, KY .. +Patience Coleman b: Abt 1784 in Mercer Co, VA d: July 17, 1864 Lincoln Co, KY m: Abt 1803 3 Joshua Sandidge b: 1812 in Lincoln Co, KY .. +Mary Hoag b: Abt 1813 in Lincoln Co, KY m: April 16, 1834 4 Mary A. Sandidge b: 1836 in Casey Co, Ky ... +Jacob Micky b: in IL 4 Patience Sandidge b: 1838 in Casey Co, Ky ... +M. Ewell b: in Hancock Co, IL 4 William W. Sandidge b: December 13, 1839 in Elizabethtown, Hardin Co, KY d: 1866 Walnut Grove, IL ... +Samantha Lindsay m: February 20, 1862 5 Philena Sandidge 5 Anna Sandidge 5 George Sandidge 5 Arminda Sandidge 4 Amanda Sandidge b: 1840 in KY ... +Samuel McDonald b: in McDonough Co, IL 4 Irvin Sandidge b: Abt 1844 in IL 4 Pulliam Sandidge b: 1847 in Schuyler Co, IL 4 James Sandidge b: 1848 in IL Rita <A HREF="http://members.aol.com/RASANDIDGE/index.html">RASANDIDGE's Home Page </A>

Hi, Cindy, I have two Pulliam Sandidges. I don't have names of their children but if we can decided which one you want, maybe when I go back to the LDS library, I can find more info. Rita The first one: Descendants of Joshua Sandidge 1 Joshua Sandidge b: 1812 in Lincoln Co, KY .. +Mary Hoag b: Abt 1813 in Lincoln Co, KY m: April 16, 1834 2 Mary A. Sandidge b: 1836 in Casey Co, Ky .. +Jacob Micky b: in IL 2 Patience Sandidge b: 1838 in Casey Co, Ky .. +M. Ewell b: in Hancock Co, IL 2 William W. Sandidge b: December 13, 1839 in Elizabethtown, Hardin Co, KY d: 1866 Walnut Grove, IL .. +Samantha Lindsay m: February 20, 1862 3 Philena Sandidge 3 Anna Sandidge 3 George Sandidge 3 Arminda Sandidge 2 Amanda Sandidge b: 1840 in KY .. +Samuel McDonald b: in McDonough Co, IL 2 Irvin Sandidge b: Abt 1844 in IL 2 Pulliam Sandidge b: 1847 in Schuyler Co, IL 2 James Sandidge b: 1848 in IL and the second one: Descendants of John Sandige II 1 John Sandige II b: Aft June 1730 in St George's Parish Spotsylvania County, VA d: 1803 Amherst County, VA .. +Keziah Gatewood b: 1730 in King & Queen Co, VA d: Bef 1796 Amherst Co., VA m: Abt 1752 2 Annes Sandidge .. +Jesse Childress b: Abt 1767 m: October 13, 1792 2 Benjamin Sandidge b: in Amherst County, VA d: 1829 Amherst Co., VA .. +Elizabeth Childress(Childers) b: Abt 1765 d: 1845 Amherst Co., VA m: October 28, 1783 2 Mary Sandidge .. +Lt. Thomas Morrison m: February 3, 1807 2 Pulliam Sandidge d: Abt 1803 Amherst Co., VA .. +Lucy Hudson m: Abt 1780 2 Rachel Sandidge .. +Walker Atkinson d: 1806 Amherst Co., VA m: March 27, 1799 2 Larkin Sandidge b: 1750 in Spotsylvania County, VA d: 1800 Lincoln Co, KY .. +Mary Vaughn b: in Mercer Co, VA d: Lincoln Co, KY m: 1780 2 William Sandidge IV b: Abt 1753 d: 1830 Amherst County, VA .. +Tamasin "Tamsey" Higginbotham b: 1749 in VA m: August 19, 1783 2 Dorothy Dudley(Dolly) Sandidge b: Bef 1765 in Amherst Co., VA d: 1830 Hardin Co, TN .. +William Higginbotham b: Aft 1756 m: Bef 1784 2 Ann Sandidge b: Abt 1770 d: Bef 1799 .. +Willliam Higginbotham b: 1764 in Amherst Co., VA d: Abt 1842 Perry Co, TN 2 Elizabeth (Betsy) Sandidge b: Abt 1770 in Amherst Co., VA d: Aft 1808 VA .. +Peter Carter b: Abt 1766 in Amherst Co., VA d: Aft 1808 Amherst Co., VA m: September 3, 1787 2 Delphia Sandidge b: Abt 1775 in Amherst Co., VA d: Bef 1796 Amherst Co., VA .. +Peter Carter b: July 2, 1771 in Amherst Co., VA d: March 17, 1839 Lincoln Co, KY m: September 11, 1793 2 Waller Sandidge b: 1776 in Amherst Co., VA d: Aft September 1849 2 Amy Sandidge b: Bef 1796 .. +Chandler Brown m: November 6, 1803

Hi All, Does anyone have the names and birthdates of the children of Pulliam Sandidge? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Cindy ralphferret@sprintmail.com

If you got this previous I apologize -- but the previous ones were not finished and for some reason my machine appeared to send it -- this is the FINISHED ONE -- please read it and trash the other one. This is in answer to the many many persons who wanted more info on the VA military online searching plus the address to same and also to better describe the NUMC and the VA search. I am going to try and do all this at this time in this message. http://image.vtls.com/ (the VA digital library pg - newspapers, books, archives, military, etc for online viewing of these things) From above page go to Electronic Card Indexes (to get the military stuff then choose Rev War, Civ War, etc) -- there are also personal, biographical and other things BESIDES military things here) http://leo.vsla.edu/ (for state libary of VA'smain page and their links to other VA stuff) http://leo.vsla.edu/lva/digital.html (describes electronic and digital online project & searching) As promised here is the addresses for Virginia and for getting into the online searching of military persons who served from the state of Virginia in various wars, etc. using the Electronic Card Index. ----- http://lcweb.loc.gov/coll/nucmc/nucmc.html The above url to the NUMC caused some confusion since persons are not aware of what they are or how they can use this in our genealogical research. I will try to clarify it a bit and walk you through a few steps: NUCMC, or the National Union Catalog of Manuscript Collections, is a free-of-charge cooperative cataloging program operated by the Library of Congress. From this first page you can click on links that explains the program, archives and manuscript repositories, and about topics of interest to archivists and their institutions' patrons. What the above means is that if the government has something in their archives or a holding place (such as Ft Worth, TX is one of the federal repositories for census', Native Indian cases, and other microfilms and hard copy documents; Eastern Kentucky Univ has other records both state and federal, etc. -- there are repositories around the USA) then this is a way to try and view it if it is digitized or at least find that this information exists. It tells what information is at these locations, where this location is situated, how to contact them, etc. From that main page I chose the link to go to NUMC cataloging which is address: http://lcweb.loc.gov/coll/nucmc/nucmccat.html From this page I then chose the link to go to the NUCMC ONLINE CATALOGING ... via the web gateway and which is address: http://lcweb.loc.gov/cgi-bin/zgate?ACTION=INIT&FORM_HOST_PORT=/prod/www/data /z3950/rlinamc2.html,zinc.rlg.org,200&AUTH=rlinamc (What this gives you is a search engine similar to webcrawler, lycos and the other many -- but this is for government documents and repositories ONLY so you don't get "buried" in the millions of things on the entire worldwide net.) I then entered the search terms I wanted to find links to -- in my case I used Civil+War (clicked on subject in right button and phrase in button just below the entry area) AND Virginia Geographic Name (right button) WordList (below button) Submit Query Button This will give back a set of links you can then go to find out what they have, etc. You could have chosen instead the Other Library of Congress and then from that long list of things (movies, photographs, manuscripts, memories, Hispanic, Afr Amer, and the list goes on for about 50 different categories) I chose the memories -- from that search engine I put in Native+Indian and from the list of links it provided I chose Cherokee, NC Indian Reservation photograph which I then downloaded to my harddrive. Of course the Library of congress online manuscripts holdings is one of my favorite places to visit as it has personal stories that the CCC and WPA obtained from individuals across the nation, photos from the many wars, ships, airplaines -- you name it they practically have it -- even photos of courthouses and other cities and towns streets and buildings. ----- Now I will try to explain and clear up the confusion of the mention of the Virginia electronic cards' online search (the url is above at very top of this message). This is by the state of Virginia and I think Virginia University is the one who setup and maintains the database. They went and digitized the first card of each of the military persons they had on file and the volume, page, military units, battalions, etc. for EACH PERSON who served in the military since Rev War to Civil War (can't recall -- they might have WWI persons there too). for instance the card might say: Murphy, Isaac Rank Major 4th Rgt Co E Overland's company Vol 14, pg 894 and the above might be under the Navy records of the Civil War persons or you might get something like: Murphy, Sylvester substitute for Miller, James W (then the above type of rank, company, regmt, vol, pg, etc) Because each group has xxx number of pages you have to skip around until you find the person(s) you are hunting -- they are alphabetic from the first card to the last in each group. The address for the Virginia electronic card catalogue's online search is: Hope the above clarifies things a bit -- sorry I was not more descriptive in my first email. Judy M. >Judith, > >Please forgive an old man who is ignorant of some of the acronyms but I >went to the URL you listed and I don't understand how to use the search >there. > >What is NUMC used for and what do you search there? > >Thanks, > >Jack > >

http://lcweb.loc.gov/coll/nucmc/nucmc.html The above url to the NUMC caused some confusion since persons are not aware of what they are or how they can use this in our genealogical research. I will try to clarify it a bit and walk you through a few steps: NUCMC, or the National Union Catalog of Manuscript Collections, is a free-of-charge cooperative cataloging program operated by the Library of Congress. From this first page you can click on links that explains the program, archives and manuscript repositories, and about topics of interest to archivists and their institutions' patrons. What the above means is that if the government has something in their archives or a holding place (such as Ft Worth, TX is one of the federal repositories for census', Native Indian cases, and other microfilms and hard copy documents; Eastern Kentucky Univ has other records both state and federal, etc. -- there are repositories around the USA) then this is a way to try and view it if it is digitized or at least find that this information exists. It tells what information is at these locations, where this location is situated, how to contact them, etc. From that main page I chose the link to go to NUMC cataloging which is address: http://lcweb.loc.gov/coll/nucmc/nucmccat.html From this page I then chose the link to go to the NUCMC ONLINE CATALOGING ... via the web gateway and which is address: http://lcweb.loc.gov/cgi-bin/zgate?ACTION=INIT&FORM_HOST_PORT=/prod/www/data /z3950/rlinamc2.html,zinc.rlg.org,200&AUTH=rlinamc (What this gives you is a search engine similar to webcrawler, lycos and the other many -- but this is for government documents and repositories ONLY so you don't get "buried" in the millions of things on the entire worldwide net.) I then entered the search terms I wanted to find links to -- in my case I used Civil+War (clicked on subject in right button and phrase in button just below the entry area) AND Virginia Geographic Name (right button) WordList (below button) Submit Query Button This will give back a set of links you can then go to find out what they have, etc. You could have chosen instead the Other Library of Congress and then from that long list of things (movies, photographs, manuscripts, memories, Hispanic, Afr Amer, and the list goes on for about 50 different categories) I chose the memories -- from that search engine I put in Native+Indian and from the list of links it provided I chose Cherokee, NC Indian Reservation photograph which I then downloaded to my harddrive. Of course the Library of congress online manuscripts holdings is one of my favorite places to visit as it has personal stories that the CCC and WPA obtained from individuals across the nation, photos from the many wars, ships, airplaines -- you name it they practically have it -- even photos of courthouses and other cities and towns streets and buildings. Now I will try to explain and clear up the confusion of the mention of the Virginia electronic cards. This is by I think the state of Virginia and I think Virginia University is the one who setup and maintains the database. They went and digitized the first card of each of the military persons they had on file and the volume, page, military units, battalions, etc. for EACH PERSON who served in the military since Rev War to Civil War (can't recall -- they might have WWI persons there too). for instance the card might say: Murphy, Isaac Rank Major 4th Rgt Co E Overland's company Vol 14, pg 894 and the above might be under the Navy records of the Civil War persons or you might get something like: Murphy, Sylvester substitute for Miller, James W (then the above type of rank, company, regmt, vol, pg, etc) Because each group has xxx number of pages you have to skip around until you find the person(s) you are hunting -- they are alphabetic from the first card to the last in each group. The address for the Virginia electronic card catalogue's online search is: (I'll have to send this address on Monday or Tues -- can't seem to hold a server connection long enough to find it again and I do have it bookmarked on my work computer -- but off until Monday) Hope the above clarifies things a bit -- sorry I was not more descriptive in my first email. Judy M. >Judith, > >Please forgive an old man who is ignorant of some of the acronyms but I >went to the URL you listed and I don't understand how to use the search >there. > >What is NUMC used for and what do you search there? > >Thanks, > >Jack > >

If you haven't tried this -- go to it -- splendid!!! Subject: NUMC ADDRESS http://lcweb.loc.gov/coll/nucmc/nucmc.html Also -- did you know that Virginia library has online searching for "cards" of all the military from Rev War on past civil war? WONDERFUL but can't recall the exact address for it at this time. what you do is go to the electronic card selection and then choose which military item you want to check on -- it gives lists of names and you select surname that is prior to one you are searching and then you can either put in the card number or go forward and backward to find the surname and first name -- for instance if it says Murphx and I want Murphy I would choose Murphx; it shows 184 cards total so I might go to card 150 (seeking Sylvester) and it comes up with Murphy, Sam so then I advance by 1 or 5 or can select another number (like 170) and continue on until I find Sylvester. I had so much fun looking up Mex-Amer War, War of 1812, Rev War, and Civil War stuff. UNFORTUNATELY it only shows the name, regiment, batallions, and the volume/page number it is on -- then you have to request a copy for $$$ or else find someone who has the microfilms of those records to look up the volumn, page, etc. But it is a START to online viewing!!! Judy M.

Hello, Cousins, We now have the new retrieval method for our SANDIDGE mail list's archive messages. Thanks to Karen and Brian, who are the owners of Rootsweb and has provided this genealogy mail list for us. They have not charged us for this mail list service but it does cost money. Those wishing to contribute will find more information at the following two locations: http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/donors.html and http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html To retrieve our past Sandidge archive messages go to: http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl And put Sandidge in the Name of List window and then click submit. When the Search the Archive of Messages for Sandidge Mailing List page appears, you may put in several different queries like names and dates. John Robertson has a web page to explain the different queries that can be used to do the archive message search: http://www.shelby.net/shelby/jr/robertsn/rwsearch.htm I have tried the search and it seems to work fine. If you have any questions, please e-mail me. Best wishes for a Merry Christmas and a fruitful New Year for your genealogy research. Rita :-)

Dear Cousins, Effective immediately (actually 30 December but please make the change now), my new email address is jsandidge@yahoo.com. I had a major conflict with my ISP and canned them. I am now busy getting hooked up to another. Hope all have a wonderful Holiday Season. May God bless each and every one of you and our wonderful Sandidge Family throughout the world. Your cousin, Jim It is a near certainty that, before you find the roots of your family tree, you will find more root rot than roots.

you will get 2 of this message -- if you note what I did is put this to the entire Sandidge list and then TO each of the persons that we have email addresses for (including myself) -- it is a "start" to getting a list together -- Just keep a copy of the TO portion of this message and maybe we can add to it later on or as more reply. My info: Judith Sandage Murphy P.O.Box 1333 Fairborn, OH 45324-1333 Tel: 937 - 222-6206 (lots of luck getting me, though -- modem on constantly when I am at home <ha,ha> As for the comment about phone -- I give out my phone number because the address is NOT listed in the phone book and I use a P.O.Box for my address -- one theft of my household things taught me NEVER to give out my home address or phone number unless I am really sure of the person -- even family members can be crooks or know crooks, etc. Sorry to be so pessimistic -- but you NEVER get over the theft of your household things -- it is over 20 years now and hurts just as much now as then and I trust people less now than before the theft. This is also a good reason why you don't want to give out your address and phone number and then mention on a list that you are going away or on vacation!!! Judy M. > >William L. S. ("Sandy") Rowe >Hunton & Williams >951 East Byrd Street >Richmond, Virginia 23219-4074 > >Tel: 804-788-8410 > ---------- >From: Jim Sandidge >To: Rowe, William; Erin and Betty; HELEN N BATTLESON; Josephine Lindsay >Bass; judith murphy; Karen Jorgensen; NitramTam; RLSCCIQ; Ronald Sandidge >Subject: email addresses >Date: Monday, December 01, 1997 1:03PM > >Dear Cousins, > >Thank you so very much for replying to my plea for help to rebuild my email >addresses. You are wonderful! > >I like the idea of maintaining a complete listing of names, addresses >(snail mail) and email addresses somewhere we could all access it. I have >no problem with my name being on the listing. I am even willing to include >my telephone number ..... (502)839-9245. What do you think? How can we do >it? If everyone in the group sent me an address, however brief or lenghty, >I would be happy to organize it and make it available to all. Let me know. > >You cousin, >Jim >It is a near certainty that, before you find the roots of your family tree, >you will find more root rot than roots. > > >

When Jim lost his harddrive it made me think that we should have a coordinator who gets the email addresses on this list whenever someone subscribes -- how much work would it be for him/her to grab the subscribe messages and take the From (email and name) and put in ONE message to us all so we could all have these? Just a thought, Judy M.

Dear Cousins, Hard drive crashed! Lost all email addresses and most everything else. Please send me a brief email so that I can re-enter you in my email address book. No files lost. Son was smart enough to backup all genealogy files last week! God love him!!!!! Jim It is a near certainty that, before you find the roots of your family tree, you will find more root rot than roots.

Yes, it costs MONEY$$$ to get the xeroxes and postage -- each office has their rules of how much to charge and usually ranges from $12 up and usually is in accordance with the number of xeroxes, etc. This money is supposed to pay for the services so it isn't out of your tax dollars -- although I do believe that is highly unlikely and some is going to come from your tax dollars -- and I apologize for that -- but these offices are going to have to work and be paid, whether we are requesting things or not, whether they are sitting waiting for requests come in or sitting waiting for the phone -- I feel we might as well make use of their services by requesting stuff or having them keying-in / digitizing documents and other info into computers, etc. Everyone must make their own decision on whether you think this request is using everyone else's tax dollars or worth every penny by getting information on what the govt already has that has been hidden all these years.) To Mr/Ms Kieffer (letter below) and to everyone else too: What you stated is true but for your grandchildren YOUR military files will be a superb find and also good reading and have much in them for their family books. The military records, although FOIA, has rules too that must be statisfied (such as that nothing can be given out until the x-military person is DEAD -- well, you are alive at the present so you don't have to worry about it UNLESS YOU are the one requesting these things. Even upon death there are some rules and your children cannot get these papers unless they are the next of kin -- their rules state you have to prove that you are dead with copy of death certificate, then your spouse is next of kin followed by your mother, your father, then oldest child, etc.) How do I know the above? Because I had to get a special paper signed by my mother (the next of kin) to send with the death certificate to get my father's military papers. In them were wonderful and not-so-wonderful things -- there was a written letter my grandmother wrote to the commander back in 1930's and some other letters she had written as well as letters that others in the community wrote, some photos I had never before seen of him in uniform, etc. Of course when he was demoted for hitting an officer in a fight, his being ordered to stay away from the "women of the night", his being brought up on court-martial charges several times for always having a still and moonshine / white lightning (each time he got off because all the evidence came up missing -- [his mother's kentucky teachings he used, ha,ha]) and other BAD things were there too (but these things I already knew). I also found out that they have some medals he had never received and upon talking with a congressman I was told they could be issued to his grandsons in a ceremony if that was my desire, or sent to me (since now my mother too is deceased). There were also some letters UNOPENED that I received -- one in particular was of special interest -- had an embossed (with parafin and gold) dragon and a photo of the USS Lexington and inside was a hand-scribed letter from the commander of same thanking him for participating in the search for Amelia Earhart, telling number of miles they covered while searching, etc. Since shortly after this letter was written the USS Lexington sunk and the commander and crew died, this is one "heck" of a find for me and my genealogy family history. There was also an interview and some Public Affairs items that had been in newspapers with my father showing date, paper, and entire article there. (plus there were still documents that even after their declassifying many things are STILL classified -- shows he went out on XXXX ship on a specific date and then months later shows he came back on the USS Henderson and everything in between is STILL CLASSIFIED (we are talking WWII era). But the main point is -- to ME they are important and they are NOT readily available until after the military person is deceased. Govt does STILL protect its own. Wanted to let everyone know so they don't think it is FREE right now to request things, or that everything about the living is just going to be FREELY given out without respecting the living persons' rights and records too. Judy M. >Having spent 26 years in the Air Force and another 10 in Federal Service, I >think it will probably at lkeast five years before we see any access to >records we would want for family histories. Besides, most of what they would >have is not historical, but present and that would be protected by the FOIA. > These things CAN NOT and MUST NOT be taken lightly. How would you like for >everything about your work and job history to be made available in public >access. And I mean such things as letters of reprimand, records of minor >infractions, etc. > >Don't push it. > >

I came across an AFNS from Washington article, in the SKYWRIGHTER, Nov 28, 1997 pg 11, and would like to put it here for all to read -- it pertains to the govt records under Freedom of Info act to go online, etc. NOTE!!! It states in there that the ones they are doing are the ones where persons had asked documents for "at least five times in a quarter" -- so let's get out there and make requests under the Freedom of Info act for EVERYTHING -- military records, civil service records, social security records, etc. Here is the article: "Communications advances have prompted all government agencies to build electronic reading rooms on the World Wide Web. An edict, part of the Electronic Freedom of Information Act Amendments of 1996, calls on the agencies to provide public access to records often asked for under that act. In the Electronic Age, that translates to internet sites. To meet the act's provisions, Air Force organizations [my note -- I have seen other articles saying this is being done with ALL govt agencies] will create electronic reading rooms on publicly available web sites. Until the sites are up and running, agencies can profice documents to customers on magnetic disks or CD-ROMS. The new guidelines still will call for record owners to coordinate releases with the base Freedom of Information Act manager. World Wide Web releases must also be coordinated through local public affiars offices. Records affected by the new rules are those documents asked for at least five times in a quarter. [NOTE -- GET OUT THERE AND ASK FOR THEM -- FOR INSTANCE MILITARY RECORDS, ENTIRE SOCIAL SECURITY RECORDS -- NOT JUST NAMES AND DATES, ETC.] The main advantage to the electronic system, according to officials in the Air Force Communications and Information Center, is that it will reduce the burden on the public for requesting records. A web site also could reduce the workload on the agency having to prepare FOIA releases. Center officials also said that offices handling FOIA requests need to create a government information locator service record for each frequently requested record posted to the web. The Department of Defense locator service resides on DefenseLINK, the official DOD home page, at http://www.defenselink.mil/ . Click on search to find "GILS." The GILS record can be completed and submitted online using a web browser." Hope the above helps and gives us "hope" of more electronic data coming online. To search use: http://www.defenselink.mil:80/locator/#browse Another good link for same type of stuff -- the Govt Printing Office: http://www.access.gpo.gov/su_docs/index.html Right now (using many of the suggested words to search) I have not come across many of these online databases -- but I understand they are just now starting to get these set up. <just wish they would HURRY -- I wanted this YESTERDAY, ha, ha>. Judy M.

--------------------- Forwarded message: From: wrowe@hunton.com (Rowe, William) To: RASANDIDGE@aol.com (RASANDIDGE) CC: SANDIDGE-L-request@rootsweb.com (Sandidge) Date: 97-11-14 12:17:00 EST Thanks for your reports on the Amherst visit. Do you think the Sandidges you found at Oronoco could be the ancestors of "cousin Billy," the clerk of court. I've always been curious how he ties in to the tree. I think his father may have been Earnest Sandidge, but I'm not sure. You offered info on the other families you found at Oronoco. One was Hill. My great grandfather, William Lee Sandidge, married Lula Jane Cox whose mother, I believe, was Jane Hill. The Cox family lived in Amherst after the War so I assume that Jane Hill was from Amherst as well. Did you see any evidence of a Hill to Cox link? A Jane Hill Cox or any Cox markers? ---------- From: RASANDIDGE To: HIGGINBOTHAM-L; SANDIDGE-L Subject: Correction on birth date of Hester Ware Date: Friday, October 31, 1997 10:36PM Hi, Josephine pointed out my mistake on Hester. Her birth date should be Jan. 14, 1844. Did the HIGGINBOTHAM list received my previous email about the info on the Higginbotham tombstones? I received an error that stated the following: ----- The following addresses have delivery notifications ----- HIGGINBOTHAM -L@rootsweb.com (unrecoverable error) At the Amherst Historical Society they have a comprehensive manuscript by L. David Roper, dated October, 1996. It is titled "Higginbotham Family of Amherst County VA and England". It gives Mr. Roper's internet address as ROPERLD@VT.EDU I also have some more tombstone info on the surnames of HILL, MARTIN, MAYS, MYERS, TOMLIN, TUCKER, BYERS, GORDON, ROGERS and the following SANDIDGE. From Asbury Methodist Church cemetery in Oronoco, Amherst Co, VA. William A. Sandidge Oct 4, 1844 - Oct. 16, 1931 RIP Mary Wright Sandidge Feb 1840 - July 27, 1923 RIP (wife of William) Florence Tomlin Sandidge Sept. 3, 1880 - Dec. 24, 1918 Next to Florence are twin babies that died at birth If anyone wants the others, just email me. Rita

Hello, Cousins, The change in retrieving the archive messages from Rootsweb mail lists has been controversial because some want to have a password in order that only people given the password can retrieve and others don't want passwords to restrict anyone from obtaining the information.. As I understand our Sandidge archive messages ( the messages that we have been sending to the Sandidge-L address) will be available through a webpage on the world wide web for anyone to see and also make it easier to retrieve than the old method. But we can make a decision whether we want our archive messages there or not. So I am asking you to send me your opinion as to what you want. I do have all the Sandidge-L messages on my computer and have been sending them to those Sandidge list subscribers who have wanted them. I have also printed them off and stored them in a notebook. I have mixed thoughts on this as I don't want anyone out in cyberspace to misuse the information that we have shared. Let me know your thoughts. Brian and Karen are the administrators of the Rootsweb Lists and have made the following decision in the attached email. Rita :-) --------------------- Forwarded message: From: karen@rootsweb.com Reply-to: listowners@rootsweb.com To: listowners-announce@rootsweb.com Date: 97-11-13 01:06:12 EST Sorry to have been virtually absent in the discussion of archiving messages. Life has been pretty much on hold for me for weeks, first getting ready to go to Chile to visit the nephew, then going to Chile, then coming back with food poisoning, then spending one whole day at the office before coming down with the flu. At RAND, it's probably now "Karen who? Does she still work here?" Marc and Brian and I have talked (using that ancient technology, the telephone), and here's the current scoop on message archives for RootsWeb mailing lists. It won't all take effect for a week or two, so to the extent you want to survey the readers of your respective mailing lists for their opinions, you'll have time. 1. Once the new (web-based) system is on line, we will be turning off the old (e-mail based) system of accessing archives. Experience has shown that it is hard on the system (uses too many CPU cycles on large lists), and hard on the user (difficult to understand, tricky syntax) and hard on the system administrators (I'm going to =scream= the next time some listowner has a list member write to me to get personalized instruction on how to search the archives via e-mail, because the listowner doesn't want to be bothered.) Once the new tools are in place, this old horse is going to be put out to pasture. (I know that not everyone has web access -- you might want to have a few volunteers on each list who will do lookups for those without web access.) 2. So, what's the new web-based system to be? Evolving, for a start. In the initial phases, for those lists that are participating, the most recent messages will be available via the web in a threaded format. (This is what Marc has been working on.) The older messages (including the old Maiser archives) will be available via a clunky search engine (like that used for ROOTS-L on http://searches.rootsweb.com). (I've been working on this, at least, until I got diverted by all that stuff up there in the first paragraph.) We hope to do two additional things: find a new search engine that will index both the threaded and unthreaded message bases, and as time allows, convert the unthreaded message bases to threaded. There are some open issues here that we haven't worked through yet, so it will be awhile, but that's the target. 3. What about passwords? These have proven much more controversial than I ever expected. I do understand (shoot, I pushed for them) why they are useful and solve a lot of problems. The difficulty is that they seem to introduce at least as many problems as they solve. Some of which hit closer to home than I like (such as whiney letters to webspinner@rootsweb.com asking what the password is). Anything that requires more work from the system administration people is almost guaranteed to be a non-starter, and passwords unfortunately fit that criteria. Besides having to deal with people who can't remember passwords or who type them in the wrong case, etc., there's also the problem that to change a password will require manual intervention (we haven't developed the software yet so the listowner could do so automatically), and a password that is stable and never changed isn't much security. If your archived messages need to be secure, a simple password won't be enough to secure them. If your archive messages don't need to be secure, then there's no need for a password. Bottomline: passwords make more work, but add little additional security. So, no passwords, at least not for now, probably never. 4. Can you edit the archives? No, at least, not now. The tools to let you do so aren't available, and the time for someone (me) to do it for you is in too short of supply. Except for cases of egregious copyright violation, death threats, etc, I won't be available to edit your archives for you. I know this means there will be some cruft, subscribe/unsubscribe commands, reposted digests, spam, etc. For most lists, even with the cruft, the signal to noise ratio will still be quite high. 5. Does your list have to participate? No. If you don't want your list included, go to the utility page for your mailing list, follow the button at the bottom labelled "edit selected files" and add to your reject list the address "archiver@lists.rootsweb.com". (If you go to your utility page, and you don't have a button like that at the bottom, then and only then, write to listmaster@rootsweb.com and ask that the address archiver@lists.rootsweb.com be added to the reject list for your mailing list. Be sure to say what mailing list.) Note that, if your list doesn't participate in the web-based archives, there will be no access to your archives unless you make alternative arrangements (for instance, through your ISP) to provide such. If you decide you do want to set up your own message archive elsewhere, we will zip up your old archives here (including the old messages from Maiser, if any) and put them somewhere so you can FTP them. Not all lists want archives (hi, Wally!): if that describes your list, just opt out of the web-based archives, and voila!, you're set. 6. What if you have a single hothead who doesn't want his/her messages included? You have some options. a) You can simply not participate. b) You can tell him/her tough, and go ahead and participate. c) You can ask that we not include your material from before the cutover (see below), and tell your hothead that anything he/she posts after the cutover will be included. (For the third case, send a letter to listmaster@rootsweb.com, etc. etc.) Target date for the cutover: 1 December 1997. That should provide time for you to touch base with your listmembers (if you so desire), and for us to further shakedown the scripts that will be used to make all this happen. Marc's beta-test will probably be back online before then. Karen