Thanks to Benjamin, who sent me the following url for the Salem Witchcraft Papers, which are on line and fully searchable. The passage that I wanted to know if it was part of Hale's document or the author of the book it came from inserted it turned o9ut to be part of Hale's document. So I guess the Raymonds et al did make that testimony. From Balch and Raymond genealogies, William Raymond Jr alone testified, and he was "one of the less deluded ones". I wonder what would be more or less deluded? I had thought it was William Raymond Jr who testified about the fit at Dr. Griggs' house, but that turns out to be his brother in law, James Kettel. I notice that Abigail Walden signed the testimony about the fight between Sarah and Edward Bishop on the Ipswich Road along with Elizabeth (Woodbury) Balch. Elizabeth Woodbury had a sister named Abigail who was with her when they witnessed that fight - I guess now we know who she married! Yours, Dora - You'll find John Hale's deposition containing the passage you quoted below in the online version of the Salem Witchcraft Papers, p. 97. Just go to the Web site <http://etext.virginia.edu/salem/witchcraft> and find the link to the Salem Witchcraft Papers. Open that link and scroll down to the link called "search the Verbatim Transcripts." Open that link to the SWP search engine. Use only the top window on that page, and enter into the window any name or word you want to find. Put a "space" after the last letter of the word or name you enter. Then scroll down to the bottom of that page and click on the "submit query" button. This will give you a list of all the witchcraft cases containing the name/word you want, with the word in red color, surrounded by a few words on eather side. Click on one of the links that names the case containing your word/name, e.g., Bridget Bishop, and this will open up the text containing your name/word. To get the full text of the document. click on the "sub-section" link at the top of the page. Benjamin C. Ray Unibersity of Virginia _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com