Listed below is how I descend from Rebecca Nurse. Rebecca TOWNE sp: Francis NOURSE Rebecca NURSE NOURSE sp: Thomas PRESTON Thomas PRESTON sp: Hannah Or Anna LEACH Thomas PRESTON sp: Rebecca Hines GROSS Anna PRESTON sp: Lemuel RICHARDSON David RICHARDSON sp: Rhoda GALE Rhoda Richardson sp: Guy Carleton Nichols Lemuel Preston Nichols sp: Hannah CLASSON David Lemuel Nichols sp: Ella May STOCKDALE Edith Cary Nichols sp: Charles Albert Eley Sr. > Group, > > I know that there are people on this list who are interested in Salem and > witches. And there are people who are direct descendants of these poor > tortured soles. What I am proposing is that we list our selves (see end of > email) and have a data base to show all of the connections to our person and > post it on one of these genealogy sites so that others can fill in the > blanks, and learn more. For example my person Martha Allen Carrier¹s > husband Thomas real name was probably Thomas Morgan thought to bet the > executioner of Charles the First, and changed his name to escape. He was > over 7 feet tall (as was the hooded executioner) he lived to be 108 and a > hose that he built with his son is still here in Connecticut. > > Also in this line is the ³Air Conditioner² Carrier. > > Martha Carrier > Richard Carrier > John Carrier, Sr > John Carrier, Jr > Uriah Carrier > Ozen Carrier > George Carrier > Emma Carrier Avery > Harley Avery > Elwood Avery > Robert Avery > > > > > -- CoreComm Webmail. http://home.core.com

I descend from Nicholas Disborough. He was suspicioned of witchcraft in Hartford, CT. Nicholas Disborough Hannah Disborough Esther Kelsey Lydia Parmelee Merab Ward Asenath Doud Almira G. Rumsey Seymour David Moore Sally Adeline Moore Leona Emma Allen TTYS, Dawn Green

On Wednesday, March 12, 2003, at 12:10 AM, BRudo1@aol.com wrote: > But I have long been curious -- has anyone ever researched the young > girls to see what happened to them. Were they able to live out normal > lives? This is taken loosely from Mary Beth Norton's book, "In The Devil's Snare": Elizabeth Booth: Married Israel Shaw in Salem on 12/26/1695 and had at least two children. Sarah Churchwell: married Edward Andrews on 8/11/1709 in Berwick, Maine, after being fined for premarital fornication. Betty Hubbard: moved with the Griggs family to Gloucester and married John Bennet of that town and had four children. Mercy Lewis: moved to Greenland, NH to live with her sister. Had a bastard child in 1695, and married Charles Allen in 1701 -- probably the father. Later lived in Boston. Bettty Parris: married Benjamin Barron in Sudbury in 1710. They had five children. Ann Putnam, Jr.: died unmarried in May 1715. Joined the Salem Village church in 1706, which is when she asked for public forgiveness for her part in convicting people who she now believed to have been innocent. Susannah Sheldon: went to Providence, RI to live with a relative. In 1694, she was called before the town council as a "person of Evill fame," and probably ordered out of town. Probably died unmarried before 1697, and therefore was likely the girl Rev. Hale described as experimenting with the egg white and the Venus glass, since that unnamed girl was dead by the time he wrote his book about the trials that year. Mary Walcott: married Isaac Farrar of Woburn in 1696, settling there and then in Ashford, CT. They had 6 children. Mary Warren and Abigail Williams: cannot be traced. Cheers, Margo

I have just recently discovered that a relative of mine - Nicholas Noyes - was one of the judges for the trials, which has increased my interest in this topic. But I have long been curious -- has anyone ever researched the young girls to see what happened to them. Were they able to live out normal lives?

Sounds like a good idea to me..... I am working on this type of project in my gen society only with Mayflower ancestors. I set up a Generations (or FTM or whichever you choose) tree to hold the info. I included *only* names as my project was to show connectedness and not facts. I am interested to know what the others think, Nicol ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Avery" <robert@classic-woodworking.com> To: <SALEM-WITCH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 6:27 PM Subject: [SALEM-WITCH-L] Which witch are you. > Group, > > I know that there are people on this list who are interested in Salem and > witches. And there are people who are direct descendants of these poor > tortured soles. What I am proposing is that we list our selves (see end of > email) and have a data base to show all of the connections to our person and > post it on one of these genealogy sites so that others can fill in the > blanks, and learn more. For example my person Martha Allen Carrier¹s > husband Thomas real name was probably Thomas Morgan thought to bet the > executioner of Charles the First, and changed his name to escape. He was > over 7 feet tall (as was the hooded executioner) he lived to be 108 and a > hose that he built with his son is still here in Connecticut. > > Also in this line is the ³Air Conditioner² Carrier. > > Martha Carrier > Richard Carrier > John Carrier, Sr > John Carrier, Jr > Uriah Carrier > Ozen Carrier > George Carrier > Emma Carrier Avery > Harley Avery > Elwood Avery > Robert Avery > > > >

Group, I know that there are people on this list who are interested in Salem and witches. And there are people who are direct descendants of these poor tortured soles. What I am proposing is that we list our selves (see end of email) and have a data base to show all of the connections to our person and post it on one of these genealogy sites so that others can fill in the blanks, and learn more. For example my person Martha Allen Carrier¹s husband Thomas real name was probably Thomas Morgan thought to bet the executioner of Charles the First, and changed his name to escape. He was over 7 feet tall (as was the hooded executioner) he lived to be 108 and a hose that he built with his son is still here in Connecticut. Also in this line is the ³Air Conditioner² Carrier. Martha Carrier Richard Carrier John Carrier, Sr John Carrier, Jr Uriah Carrier Ozen Carrier George Carrier Emma Carrier Avery Harley Avery Elwood Avery Robert Avery

Just as a reminder, if you need information about this list -- subscribing/unsubscribing and checking the archives, see: http://www.ogram.org/17thc/salem-witch-list.shtml Cheers, Margo Margo Burns, List Owner of the Salem-Witch List at rootsweb.com margo@ogram.org

hi all, please change my address to jz19614@hotmail.com . Thanks judy

hi margo, Would you please change my addy . I tried but mail keeps coming to old address and its going to close before the 12th of march thanks judy new address; jz19614@hotmail.com

There's a book that keeps reappearing on eBay -- go to ebay.com, hit search, hit "by number" and put in number 2915791140 What I'm asking is, do any of us know which witch book this is? Has it been useful to anyone, genealogically?

Thank you! My neighborhood is rife with antique / collectible shops, I'll give them a try. At 01:33 PM 3/6/03, Halloween Queen wrote: >Lisa, there are all types of postcards of the Salem fire and they are very >easy to find and very low in price. Go to any postcard show or shop that >sells postcards in your area and you will find many in the Salem section or >under fires or disasters. If you want places in your area let me know and I >will try and give you some. Pamela >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Lisa Small" <LMS6@georgetown.edu> >To: <SALEM-WITCH-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 11:01 PM >Subject: [SALEM-WITCH-L] Salem Fire in 1914 > > > > Although it is several centuries after our interest in Salem, I ran across > > a photo today at the Library of Congress that many members of the list may > > want to see. There was a devastating fire in 1914. To see a panoramic > > photo, go here: > > > > http://lcweb2.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/d?pan:20:./temp/~ammem_8NN4: > > > > AND MAKE SURE YOU DON'T LOSE THE COLON OFF THE END OF THE URL!!! > > > > Then go to Photo 37 by using the "NEXT PAGE" link at the bottom of the >page > > you're taken to. > > Click on Photo 37 to get to an info page with a small picture. > > Click on the small picture to see a larger version of the kind of physical > > devastation most of us will be spared in our lives. > > > > Knowing this is Salem, the photo affected me not so much as representation > > of physical devastation, but as a metaphor for the spiritual devastation >of > > the town after the 1692 trials. > > > > -- Lisa > > > >

Lisa, there are all types of postcards of the Salem fire and they are very easy to find and very low in price. Go to any postcard show or shop that sells postcards in your area and you will find many in the Salem section or under fires or disasters. If you want places in your area let me know and I will try and give you some. Pamela ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lisa Small" <LMS6@georgetown.edu> To: <SALEM-WITCH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 11:01 PM Subject: [SALEM-WITCH-L] Salem Fire in 1914 > Although it is several centuries after our interest in Salem, I ran across > a photo today at the Library of Congress that many members of the list may > want to see. There was a devastating fire in 1914. To see a panoramic > photo, go here: > > http://lcweb2.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/d?pan:20:./temp/~ammem_8NN4: > > AND MAKE SURE YOU DON'T LOSE THE COLON OFF THE END OF THE URL!!! > > Then go to Photo 37 by using the "NEXT PAGE" link at the bottom of the page > you're taken to. > Click on Photo 37 to get to an info page with a small picture. > Click on the small picture to see a larger version of the kind of physical > devastation most of us will be spared in our lives. > > Knowing this is Salem, the photo affected me not so much as representation > of physical devastation, but as a metaphor for the spiritual devastation of > the town after the 1692 trials. > > -- Lisa > >

There is an interesting website about Samuel Wardwell you might want to visit. It references several books. The webmaster might have some insight. Marlene Wilkinson > -----Original Message----- > From: jude [mailto:jude@midmaine.com] > Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 2:38 PM > To: SALEM-WITCH-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [SALEM-WITCH-L] An accurate book available? > > > I was wondering if there is a book available today that is accurate > account of what happened in Salem during the trials and one that might > include my ancestor Samuel Wardwell? I don't see him mentioned all that > much. > > I was also wondering if where the witch trials took place is actually > located in the Salem of today as well as is Andover still a separate > town? > > Any input would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. > > >

Hi George and all, I don't think they got anything "mixed up", I don't believe they worried about representing ANYTHING factually!! In this movie, John Proctor was hanged along side Rebecca Nurse, and he was the only man in that group; according to the RECORDS, John was hanged a month after Rebecca, and Martha Carrier was the only women in that group of five who were hanged on August 19th. I think they took "artistic license" to a new level with this one!!! Joan In a message dated 3/6/2003 10:13:10 AM Eastern Standard Time, GWEstey@cs.com writes: > Speaking of truth, I believe that eight were hanged on September 22, 1692. > Martha Corey, Margaret Scott, Mary Easty, Alice Parker, Ann Pudeator, > Wilmott > Redd, Samuel Wardwell, and Mary Parker. The CBS people said five were > execute and they showed five hanging nooses over a tree limb. Am I wrong or > how did CBS get it so wrong if they were being advised by a knowledgeable > person? Or could it be that they got the July 19th hangings of Rebecca > Nurse, > Susannah Martin, Elizabeth Howe, Sarah Good, and Sarah Wildes (five women) > mixed up with the eight on Sept. 22nd? >

It is no wonder that history in school books gets polluted and rewritten. You can blame the Hollywood money mongers for a great portion of that. Fiction is OK but don't fictionalize a real event and represent it as the TRUTH. I was disappointed in the lack of recognition for those who lost their lives to this dilution. You would have thought that CBS would have at least mentioned names of those who were executed in the epilog. Margo, I applaud you for going to the effort to document the trials and times of this event. I know it must be a monumental task. I pray it will dispel the drivel that was just paraded before us as "TRUTH." Speaking of truth, I believe that eight were hanged on September 22, 1692. Martha Corey, Margaret Scott, Mary Easty, Alice Parker, Ann Pudeator, Wilmott Redd, Samuel Wardwell, and Mary Parker. The CBS people said five were execute and they showed five hanging nooses over a tree limb. Am I wrong or how did CBS get it so wrong if they were being advised by a knowledgeable person? Or could it be that they got the July 19th hangings of Rebecca Nurse, Susannah Martin, Elizabeth Howe, Sarah Good, and Sarah Wildes (five women) mixed up with the eight on Sept. 22nd? George W. Estey Seventh Great Grandson of Mary Esty/Easty HALF THE FUN IS THE SEARCH, THE REMAINDER IS SHARING WHAT YOU FIND. Searching for information on: ALLEN ARNOLD BALLOU BASSET BLESSING CAMERON CARY CHAMBERLAIN CHANDLER CLARK CLOUGH CONNOR DANIELS DAVENPORT DECROW DIXON FISK FOSTER FOLLETTE FRENCH GETCHELL GODFREY GOULD GRANT GREELY GREEN or GREENE GREER HAUXWORTH HUNT KEEN LOVETT MARSH MC or MAC DONALD NORTON PORTER PAGE PERKINS PIKE POTE RAND RANDALL RAZEE RING ROGERS SAGER SAVAGE SLOGGY SMITH SOULE STANDISH STEWART or STEWARD THURSTON TILDEN TOWNE WHITE WHITMAN WINCHURST

Although it is several centuries after our interest in Salem, I ran across a photo today at the Library of Congress that many members of the list may want to see. There was a devastating fire in 1914. To see a panoramic photo, go here: http://lcweb2.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/d?pan:20:./temp/~ammem_8NN4: AND MAKE SURE YOU DON'T LOSE THE COLON OFF THE END OF THE URL!!! Then go to Photo 37 by using the "NEXT PAGE" link at the bottom of the page you're taken to. Click on Photo 37 to get to an info page with a small picture. Click on the small picture to see a larger version of the kind of physical devastation most of us will be spared in our lives. Knowing this is Salem, the photo affected me not so much as representation of physical devastation, but as a metaphor for the spiritual devastation of the town after the 1692 trials. -- Lisa

There are many books on the trials. For a beginning, and relatively easily found, both Norton's _In The Devil's Snare_ and Boyer & Nissenbaum's _Salem Possessed_ have definite viewpoints, but there is good information to be had from them. The works of Frances Hill (_The SWT Reader_, IIRC) and Marilynne Roach's _The Salem Witch Trials: A Day-by-day Chronicale of a Community under seige_ also seem to have good information, although I have nto read either carefully enough yet to comment on any bias.

At 01:03 PM 3/5/03, Jma8763@aol.com wrote: >Isn't the fact that Sarah Averill Wildes own SON was sent out to serve >warrants, while his mother stood accused, drama ENOUGH for ratings?????? And hey, how about MY ancestress? Whose own son was an accuser in another trial, possibly to try to cut a deal to save his mother's life? (Helen Graves will correct me if I've screwed this up). Hollywood did what Hollywood does. Pity. Makes me appreciate movies like "The Majestic" even more. Lisa 14th gen of Ann Greenslit Pudeator, hanged

On Wednesday, March 5, 2003, at 02:37 PM, jude <jude@midmaine.com> wrote: > I was wondering if there is a book available today that is accurate > account of what happened in Salem during the trials and one that might > include my ancestor Samuel Wardwell? I don't see him mentioned all > that > much. The Wardwell family is mentioned in most books, but I see you are right: I don't see any that gives them a lot of attention. > I was also wondering if where the witch trials took place is actually > located in the Salem of today The location of various episodes can be confusing. What we have the most extensive records of are the examinations of the accused in Salem Village -- the present-day town of Danvers -- examinations which took place most frequently in the meeting house and Ingersoll's tavern. Salem Town was the Essex County seat, which is more likely where the trials took place. > is Andover still a separate town? There are actually two towns now -- Andover and North Andover. The outbreak of accusations in 1692 "Andover" took place in what is now North Andover. --Margo

Andover is very much a separate town. Many of the events of 1692 actually took place in Salem Village, which is now the town of Danvers, MA. There are many books on the trials. For a beginning, and relatively easily found, both Norton's _In The Devil's Snare_ and Boyer & Nissenbaum's _Salem Possessed_ have definite viewpoints, but there is good information to be had from them. The works of Frances Hill (_The SWT Reader_, IIRC) and Marilynne Roach's _The Salem Witch Trials: A Day-by-day Chronicale of a Community under seige_ also seem to have good information, although I have nto read either carefully enough yet to comment on any bias. Another good source is http://etext.lib.virginia.edu/salem/witchcraft/ BJ most interested in Hathorne, Hobbs, Towne and Putnam (lots of Putnams -- up to 14 lines back to John Sr & Priscilla Gould, and at least 2 lines to each of their sons......) > -----Original Message----- > From: jude [mailto:jude@midmaine.com] > Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 2:38 PM > To: SALEM-WITCH-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [SALEM-WITCH-L] An accurate book available? > > > I was wondering if there is a book available today that is accurate > account of what happened in Salem during the trials and one that might > include my ancestor Samuel Wardwell? I don't see him mentioned all that > much. > > I was also wondering if where the witch trials took place is actually > located in the Salem of today as well as is Andover still a separate > town? > > Any input would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. > > >