I have the BLISS line of MA. Would be glad to send a gedcom or charts of the family. I had your Mary BLISS in my database but have misplaced that info or lost the last time my computer crashed. I do know she is of this family but have no further data. The BLISS history is facinating to read. Descendant of CARRINGTONs & TOWNE families- Debbie [email protected] http://homestead.juno.com/debmalec/index.html

I am seeking information about Isabel Austin TOWLE who was invovled in the witch trials. Any help?

Thank you for your response Debbie I would appreciate seeing the BLISS information. I have some info but not a lot. I can read a GEDCOM in FTM if you prefer that method. Thanks! Lorine To: [email protected] Copies to: [email protected] Date sent: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 17:32:02 -0400 Subject: Re: [SALEM-WITCH-L] Mary PARSONS From: Deborah R Malec <[email protected]> > I have the BLISS line of MA. Would be glad to send a gedcom or charts of > the family. I had your Mary BLISS in my database but have misplaced that > info or lost the last time my computer crashed. I do know she is of this > family but have no further data. The BLISS history is facinating to read. > Lorine McGinnis Schulze [email protected] ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ * The Olive Tree Genealogy http://www.rootsweb.com/~ote/ * The Canadian Military Heritage Project http://www.rootsweb.com/~canmil/ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Hello, I have recently discovered my son's paternal link to Mary Parsons, from Northampton, MA who was tried as a witch in 1674 at the Court of Assistants, Boston, MA. Mary's maiden name was Bliss and I am researching her as a suprise for my son. Margo Burns has already been of tremendous assistance to me in pointing me in the right direction for sources to investigate, but if anyone is researching this name, or knows of Mary and her trial, I would be pleased to hear from you. Lorine Lorine McGinnis Schulze [email protected] ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ * The Olive Tree Genealogy http://www.rootsweb.com/~ote/ * The Canadian Military Heritage Project http://www.rootsweb.com/~canmil/ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Dora, >The presentation on Christian Trask's suicide and Hale's testimony in one of >the Trask web sites contains the following statement tacked on after John >Hale's signature, presented in such a way that it appears to be part of the >original document (sworn statement by JOhnHale on May 20, 1692), but I can't >be sure. It says: The phrase is also tacked on to the deposition given by John HALE 20 May 1692 in _The Salem Witchcraft Papers_, Vol. 1 pg 97; the pages dealing with Bridget BISHOP in Boyer and Nissenbaum's verbatim transcripts. This appears to have been at that same time and contains the same names that you noted. Below it is noted a source: (Essex County Archives, Salem - Witchcraft Vol. 1 pg. 39) Kathy Buffington Willett [email protected]

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I posted information on Christian Oliver's marriage and family, and a genealogy of the Woodbury and Trask families showing all marriages, etc., this morning - and I don't know if either got posted to the list, because I didn't get them, and I got the two postings I just made to the list. One was 4 K long and the other was 12 K long. I did save them as drafts this time (It was my third try at posting the first one), so I can repost them if they did not appear. The presentation on Christian Trask's suicide and Hale's testimony in one of the Trask web sites contains the following statement tacked on after John Hale's signature, presented in such a way that it appears to be part of the original document (sworn statement by JOhnHale on May 20, 1692), but I can't be sure. It says: "To several parts of this testimony new witnesses Major Gedney Mr Parris Joseph Herrick junr and his wife Thomas Raiment and his wife John Trask Margaret King Hannah wife of Colonel Baker Miles and others. As also about the said Goody Bishop Capt William Aaiment his son Wm Raiment about creatures strangely dying. James Kettle and the above said Jos. Herrick and Tho. Raiment about Sundry actions that have the appearance of witchcraft". The source is David Levin, "What Happened in Salem?" I don't believe I've seen this book. I have seen the Salem Witchcraft Papers, in the local university law library, which is at present apparently closed for asbestos abatement to judge from the plastic shrouds over all bookcases and furniture to be seen through the locked door. I am not aware of both William Raymond Sr and William Raymond Jr testifying to the strange deaths of animals. I do know that I thought it was William Raymond Jr when I read it in Salem Witchcraft Papers, I sure wasn't looking for a Batcheldor or a Kettle who I've lately read said it, that he was visiting Dr. Griggs one afternoon and saw his niece throw one of her fits. The genealogy I posted that I don't know if it got on the list clearly shows why Herrick's, Raymonds, and Bakers would have suddenly come up with all sorts of things in response to Hale's cand Christian Trask's husband's charge that she was driven mad and done in by witchcraft by Sarah, not to mention what inspired Elizabeth Balch's civic spiritedness on the matter. (I thought that she got her inlaw condemned to death because she couldn't bring herself to believe the woman was abused by her husband!) I would like to know if these people really said these things and if it is recorded anywehre else besides in Hale's statement or attached to it. Also what is the original source on Hale's statement, ie, should it be in the Salem Witchcraft Papers, too? If anyone has Levin's book (I don't think it is in the local or university libraries), could they please check and see if this paragraph is part of the original document or something Levin wrote. Also, it would be very interesting if the entire Bass River crew of families (except the Bishops, who are notably missing from the list) DID get involved against the Bishops to this degree. It bears on whether Bridget was the wife of Edward Bishop Sr who was closely related to the other families by marriage, though hardly definitively. The Bass River families were continually getting involved in long and bitter legal battles, sometimes criminal charges, with each other, and they seemed to change allignents like the phases of the moon. They allegedly didn't get on with the Puritans; what on earth was any of them doing in the house of one of the leaders of the Parris faction? I also want to know if they were really capable of getting quite this nasty; their interminable conflicts never lead to people dying before. In fact, they were noted for generally having better sense than the Puritans - about life in general. Yours, Dora Yours, Dora _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com

I think I saw the beginning of this group of marriages, but I doubt that the Patch dates are there. I can try to check for you maybe next week in the library. If I saw any of it, it must be Peter Woodbury's line. Yours, Dora ----Original Message Follows---- From: "Steven P. Fulk" <[email protected]> To: "Dora Smith" <[email protected]>,<[email protected]> Subject: Re: [SALEM-WITCH-L] WOODBURY, PATCH, THORNDIKE, DODGE ... Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 13:31:10 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 >From [email protected] Thu Aug 05 10:31:30 1999 Received: from [24.92.226.146] by hotmail.com (2.1) with ESMTP id MHotMailB9731572000FD820F3A9185CE292EE830; Thu Aug 05 10:31:30 1999 Received: from TWFulkSP.stny.lrun.com ([24.95.130.28]) by mailout1.nyroc.rr.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-59787U250000L250000S0V35) with SMTP id com; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 13:31:37 -0400 Message-ID: <[email protected]> X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 I'm descended from Hannah WOODBURY (1626-1703) who m. James PATCH (1626-1658) in Salem, MA Her parents were William WOODBURY (1589-1675/6) & Elizabeth PATCH (1594-1679) His parents were Nicholas PATCH (1597-1673) & Elizabeth OWLEY (dates?/parents?) Mary PATCH (1649-1716) was the daughter of James PATCH & Hannah WOODBURY She m. Paul THORNDIKE (1643-1697) in 1668 in Beverly, MA Their son, John THORNDIKE (1674/5-1760) m. Joanna LARKIN (b. 1675/6) in Beverly 20 Apr 1696 Joanna (LARKIN) THORNDIKE also m. Joshua DODGE There are quite a few THORNDIKE/DODGE marriages, as well as those with the PATCH & WOODBURY families.... Dori Fulk Horseheads, NY -----Original Message----- From: Dora Smith <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Thursday, August 05, 1999 11:40 AM Subject: [SALEM-WITCH-L] genealogies of Christian Trask and Christian Oliver. ... > >The DODGE family and also the BATCHELDOR families very closely tie all of >the Raymond, Balch, (not so much Bishop, whose daughter married Wm Raymond), >Woodbury and Trask families together. Extensive intermarrying and >inbreeding among these families. > > >...> _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com

> Susannh Fowler was the daughter of Samuel Fowler and a Miss. Worthen (Wathen) > > Miss Worthen (Wathen) was the daughter of a Hannah Martin. In case my previous post wasn't clear, we have several mother/daughters named Hannah. Hannah Green Martin (b.?) Hannah Martin Worthen (b. 1642/43) >.Hannah Worthen Fowler (b.1662/63) > Susannah Fowler Jones (b.1688/89) .> Lydia Jones Hoag (b. 1719/20). In addition Susannah Fowler Jones has a sister Hannah Fowler Hackett. Does anyone have the ancestry of Hannah Green Martin (d. 1643)? Leslie

I'm descended from Hannah WOODBURY (1626-1703) who m. James PATCH (1626-1658) in Salem, MA Her parents were William WOODBURY (1589-1675/6) & Elizabeth PATCH (1594-1679) His parents were Nicholas PATCH (1597-1673) & Elizabeth OWLEY (dates?/parents?) Mary PATCH (1649-1716) was the daughter of James PATCH & Hannah WOODBURY She m. Paul THORNDIKE (1643-1697) in 1668 in Beverly, MA Their son, John THORNDIKE (1674/5-1760) m. Joanna LARKIN (b. 1675/6) in Beverly 20 Apr 1696 Joanna (LARKIN) THORNDIKE also m. Joshua DODGE There are quite a few THORNDIKE/DODGE marriages, as well as those with the PATCH & WOODBURY families.... Dori Fulk Horseheads, NY -----Original Message----- From: Dora Smith <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Thursday, August 05, 1999 11:40 AM Subject: [SALEM-WITCH-L] genealogies of Christian Trask and Christian Oliver. ... > >The DODGE family and also the BATCHELDOR families very closely tie all of >the Raymond, Balch, (not so much Bishop, whose daughter married Wm Raymond), >Woodbury and Trask families together. Extensive intermarrying and >inbreeding among these families. > > >...>

Mark Not really much different from what I have. Miss Worthen is Hannah Worthen daughter of Ezekial. Hannah Martin's mother was Hannah Green, first wife of George Martin whose second wife was Susannah Martin. Hannah Martin Worthen was born in 1642/43; her mother Hannah Green Martin died young and her father married Susannah North Martin in 1646. Susanah was Hannah Worthen's stepmother. She had seven children with George Martin: Richard, George, John, Esther, Jane, Abigail, William. > Leslie and all, > > I just got a chance to work on this and check it out compared to the lineage > I have. And I found a conflict. > > The ancestry I have for Lydia Jones follows: > > Lydia Jones, b. abt 1712 in MA, d. 19 Aug 1738 in MA m. to Benjamin Hoag, Jr. > she was the daughter of John Jones and Susannah Fowler > > John Jones was the son of Joseph Jones and Mary Gould. > > Susannh Fowler was the daughter of Samuel Fowler and a Miss. Worthen (Wathen) > > Miss Worthen (Wathen) was the daughter of a Hannah Martin. > > I hope someone can help me to straighten this out. > > Thanks, > > Mark von Destinon > 8022 E. Mi Casita > Tucson, AZ 85715 > > At 03:49 PM 7/18/99 -0700, Leslie Hope wrote: >>Most of us on the list are descendants of people who were living in the area >>of Salem Village (Amesbury, Salisbury, Newbury, Ipswich, Andover, etc) in >>1692. Some of our ancestors' families were deeply victimized by false >>accusations of witchcraft. I recently found out from cousin Carol in Reno >>that my 11 (step)ggrandmother is Susannah Martin who was executed by hanging >>on July 19, 1692. Her husband is George Martin, ggrandfather of Lydia Jones, >>Benjamin Hoag jr's wife. (John /Ebeneezer Emery>Benjamin/Sarah >>Norris>Benjamin jr/Lydia Jones), Below are links for anyone who may be >>interested in the circumstances surrounding Susannah's arrest, conviction >>and execution. Join me tomorrow in remembering her and the other women who >>were executed with her on July 19, 1692. >>Thanks, >>Leslie Hope >> >>http://www.rootsweb.com/~nwa/sm.html >>http://etext.lib.virginia.edu/salem/witchcraft/index.html >> >>"I dare not tell a lie to save my life." >>"Let them think what they will." >>from Susannah Martin's testimony May 1692 >> > > >

For those that buy or read every book on Salem Witchcraft I stumbled on this one at Amazon.com It is fiction "Diary of Dorcas Good: Child Witch of Salem" by Rose Earhart. Published January 1999 at $24.95 but no library owns as yet. Has any one on the list read this and can tell me whether it is good historical fiction or just fiction with a lot of obvious holes in the history? I'm hoping it is the former as there is too much of the latter out there.

On 8/5/99, Rita Knecht <[email protected]> wrote: >There are several ways to order: >Call 1-800-645-4727; fax your order to 1-703-8131; or PBS online at >www.pbs.org/shop. Perhaps the best is to call so you can add the correct >shipping and tax, if any, especially if you want more than one copy. >Customer Service is 1-800-531-4727. Thanks for the info, Rita! I'd only seen copies for sale at places in Salem and Danvers -- the Rebecca Nurse homestead, the Salem Visitor Center, the Peabody-Essex Gift Shop... Speaking of videos, there's another one that might be of interest to you (the following blurb, item # & price are from the Peabody-Essex http://www.pem.org/shop/books6.htm) : Days of Judgement: The Salem Witch Trials of 1692 Videotape, 120 mins. This award-winning documentary, designed for home and school viewing, answers many questions surrounding the witch hunt. Legal documents from 1692 are used to tell the story of the trials. Shot on location in Essex County, this program features in-depth interviews with historians who offer insights into this important event in Salem's history. #V101: $24.95 If anyone has seen it, please post a review! :D The Peabody-Essex's page above also lists "Three Sovereigns for Sarah" for sale, Videotape, #V102 $34.95 -- that's a 2-tape version. You can reach them at (800)745-4054, ext.3119 / Fax (978)744-0036 / email [email protected] Cheers, Margo Margo Burns [email protected] http://www.ogram.org

I tried to trace him. I was in touch with the Willard family association. I descend from Dolor Davis and Margery Willard, they and Margery's two brothers came together from England, I don't have the exact trail, but it is at http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Acres/5127/mothersfam/index.html, part of my Rice line. John Willard of Salem associated very closely with the two Willard brothers and their sons, and their daughters, at times lived in the same towns, fled to one of them from Salem. He shared the Willard addiction to land speculation, which the Salem villagers thought was Satanic. It ran counter to accepted norms about land at that time. He also had psychotic episodes. All very pertinent to my efforts to trace my family history of manic depression. Clearly he was closely related to the Willard brothers, but noone know s how. He could be a nephew or brother who came separately from England. Yours, Dora _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com

I tried to post this twice yesterday, once from the wrong account, then to the wrong address. This time I save draft! I do not know yet who Christian Trask was (or didn't yesterday morning. I will be posting more on her). I saw Kathy's posting on the subject from the day before (and checked it out yesterday afternoon). But I found a considerable amount of important information in my articles at home on who was NOT Christian Trask. The following information is mostly from David Greene's article. Christian Oliver was born in Salem on May 8, 1667. She married Greene estimates 1686, Thomas Mason. Since Greene estimates that, the record must bemissing or he couldn't find it. She had one daughter, Susanna Mason, b Salem, 8/23, 1687. Oliver the husband of Bridget and father of Christian died intestate and Bridget was made administrator of his estate, which got her accused of witchcraft (the first time), as we all know. The estate was not yet settled when Bridget was executed in 1692. It finally was settled in 9/11/1693, when the court ordered the disbursement of Thomas Oliver's estate. The order specified 9 pounds to Edward Bishop "for disbursements on ye house", and 9 pounds to Christian Mason, which suggests she was living. That turns out to be a mistake on the part of the court. In the new administrator's request ofr disbursement of the estate, Susan Mason was listed instead of her motehr to receive the 9pounds. Greene concludes that probably Christian was dead and the administrator knew it, being in a better position to know her status than the court was, and the court order was mistaken. On November 1, 1693, Thomas Mason took a second wife, Abigail (Crtice) Greenslade. So she definitely was dead by 1693, and, as importantly, Thomas Mason was still living. The estate records are pretty good evidence that Bridget's daughter married Thomas Mason and not John Trask. Christian the wife of John Trask committed suicide on June 3, 1689, according to Hale's records (I guess of the Beverly church where he seems to have been the minister), though apparently he testified in 1692 that the episode happened five or six years before 1692. From Hale's description of the events regarding Christian Trask and Sarh Bishop, all of it occurred early in 1689. We know that Christian (Oliver) Mason had a child in 1687. She could not easily have married John Trask by 1689, since her first husband, Thomas Mason, was alive in 1693 when he remarried. There would have had to have been a divorce, that was difficult in those days and would have been a scandal. Furhter, the court in 1693 thought her name was Christian Mason, not Christian Trask. We do not know when Christian Mason died, but it is reasonable to think it was close to 1693 and not back in 1689, since the court did not know she was dead, let alone know of a remarriage and name change for her. So Christian the wife of John Trask must have been someone else. Kathy found evidence that she was Christian Woodberrie/ Woodbury, who marrried John Trask on Apr 9, 1679, in Beverly. This detail sounds like it ought to be easily checked in the Beverly records. The whole issue of some connection between Christian Trask and Bridget Bishop isn't quite put to bed, either by who Christian Trask wasn't, or who she was, in light of the suggestion that they might have been some sort of in-laws to each other. So I am interested in what anyone finds on the matter. Yours, Dora Smith _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com

I checked out Kathy's statement in the Beverly records in the library yesterday; they show that John Trask did indeed marry Christian Woodberrie on Apr 9, 1679, in Woodbury. If there was some relation between Christian Trask and Bridget Bishop, they should show if one does enough charting of the genealogies of these two people, and also of John Trask. I didn't learn of any direct close relationship, but perhaps someone will pick up on something in what I did learn. I also did learn things about assorted relationships to Christian Trask that amazed me. First; Bridget Bishop's genealogy. She had two children in England, apparently, who there is no record of once they were born, they seemingly did not come to this country. She had Christian. Her husband, Thomas Oliver, had three children whose marriages could conceivably account for a claim of someone being an in-law of Bridget's. Here is what David Greene had on them, which is all Icould find. By his first wife, Mary, Thomas Oliver of Salem had: Thomas B England bef 1637 John b Engl bef 1637 poss had dau Ellen, and poss is grandfather of Ellinor Jones named in Oliver's estate's disbursement request and order. Mary m (1) Salem 1661 Job Hilliard, had Job Hilliard and Abigail Hooper named in the disbursement request and order in 1693 as grandchildren of Thomas Oliver. Apparently Job Hilliard Jr was the new administrator of the estate. Mary m (2) Salem William West. apparently had no children by 1693. Also mentioned in the disbursement request and order on Oliver's estate was Elinor Jones alias Olliver of Nevis (the Elinor JOnes above), and the fact that Edward Bishop of Salem was appointed guardian of his step-granddaughter Susannah Mason who was still a minor. (and I guess not yet married.) The records of the Traske family are confused and confusing, but here is what has been sorted out. There are two Trask genealogies on line at http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Forum/2225, and http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/8860. Also a small amount of information in the genealogy of the Peter line from John of the Woodbury family. A number of Traske emigrants. Capt Wm Traske to Cape Ann 1623, friend and companion to Gov Endicott. Osmand Traske settled Beverly at abt 1645. William and Osmond were apparently brothers from East Clike, Somersetshire. A brother, John, had a son, John, who may be the third emigrant, John. Or John may be John the son of William, or JOhn the son of Osmande. Henry Traske, b 1633? probably a brother by a different mother. John Traske, son of Capt Wm Trake m (1) Abigail Parkman, (2) Mary Clarke. He followed his father's trade as a miller and lived in Salem Village. John Trask, son of Osmond Trask of Beverly, m Christian Woodbury and lived at Beverly, MA. John Trask Sr the mystery man m Hannah Sclart? (I can't read my writing) and was a seafaring man, lived at Beverly, moved to Lexington MA. Osmond Trask m (1) Mary (unknown) on 1/11/1649, apparently in Beverly. Sarah b 1650 d young m Unknown Holland Edward b 6/6/1652 John b 1653 m Christian Woodbury Mary b 1657 m Moses BROWN Wm Trask m (2) E Gally, 2nd wife of Osmund, in 1663 she m John. (?) Mary bp 1661 d young m Unknown Friarson 1695. Osmond m (2) E. Gally: Joseph bp 1675 m E. Sallowes or Sallows E. Trask bp 1675 d young m Lt Steven HERRICK 1691, son Ephraim HERRICK b 1636, and Mary Cross, m 1661. Wm Trask bp 1675 m Sarah Marstone. (I see I have two William's). This came from oneof those web sites. Samuel Trask m 1664 Susannah WOODBURY b 1673 d 1745. His son, Josiah Trask, m (1) Mary WOODBURY in 1719, b 1703 Beverly, dau Pter Woodbury II b 1666 and Mary Dodge. (She was first cousin to Christian Woodbury.) Abigail b 1669 m Robert BAKER in 1723, son of JOnathan BAKER and Mary Unknown. (desc of Cornelius BAKER, lived right around there.) Benjamin Trask m (1) Mrs. Mercy (SHATTUCK) Elliott 1705 Beverly m (2) Tryfene or Trypene HERRICK, m 1711, b 1676, dau of Joseph HERRICK and Mary Endicott. Jonathan Trask bp 1675 Edward Trask bp 1677 m Deborah Roundry. The Trasks and Woodberry's lived next to each other and near the Bishop's, Raymonds and Balches in Beverly on the Bass River. The HERRICK family ties these families together; Henry Herrick, 5th son of Sir Wm Herrick, m Edith Laskins. 8 children. i Henry Herrick m Lydia WOODBURY, five children. i Capt Joseph Herrick bp 1660 m Sarah DODGE i Mary m Andrew Elliott Henry m Joanna WOODBURY dau of Andrew WOODBURY Lydia bp 1691 m 1708 Josiah WOODBURY son of Deacon Peter WOODBURY The DODGE family and also the BATCHELDOR families very closely tie all of the Raymond, Balch, (not so much Bishop, whose daughter married Wm Raymond), Woodbury and Trask families together. Extensive intermarrying and inbreeding among these families. John WOODBURY and his br William were early settlers on Bass River, I think. I got most information from a book on John Woodbury and the descendants of his son Peter, and some from the Trask web site, and most of the information abaout the children of Humphrey from Ancestral File, the informaiton in which atleast in part checks against the Beverly and Salem records and the little that is in the book on the Woodbury's. I believe that the Woodbury book listed the children of Hannah and Cornelius Baker. This book remarkably, and quite suspiciously, mentions Humphrey and any of his children at all only slightly and in passing, never are his children listed, though he was the other son of the emigrant Woodbury. The author of this book describes John as staunch and taciturn. John Woodbury m (2) Salem or Beverly, Agnes, between 1629 when he was a founder of the Beverly church, and 1635 when she is listed and they had a child. Agnes' last name not known. He married her in his old age, and died when the children were quite young. Humphrey b abt 1607 by an earlier marriage (AF says to Joanna Humphrey), brought to Beverly by his father at about age 20 or something. Founding member and deacon for 17 years at Beverly church. He was much older than his half siblings. He married Elizabeth Unknown, in Salem or Beverly. They had: John bp 1641 m 1656 Elizabeth, m 1690 Alice Blish or Darbe. Thomas b 1639 m 1661 Hannah DODGE m (2) Elizabeth Curtis Isaac bp 1643 or 1645 m Mary Wilkes Humphrey b 1646 m 1671 Anne Winder Susannah b 1648 m John Tenney, Deacon, m (2) John Bray Peter b 1653 had Mary m Josiah TRASK Richard b 1655 m 1674 Sarah HASKELL * ELIZABETH B 1657 chr 1658 m JOHN WALKER * CHRISTIAN b 1661 m 1670 John TRASK Abigail bp 1635 or 1637 m John Hill 166_ Hannah bp 1636 m Cornelius BAKER (another early Bass River settler) Hannah bp1660 d 1662 Hannah 1662 Child 1662 Samuel and Cornelius, 1667 Jonathan 1669 Abigail 1672 Priscilla 1674 Bethiah 1677 John 1678 Jabez 1682 Peter bp 1640 a deacon at Beveerly church, adm'd estates of John BATCHELDOR and JOHN KETTEL (whose daughter married Wm Raymond jr and also tied to the BATCHELDOR's) took part in public affairs and government with John Dodge and William Raymond Sr. He is likely to hve been named for minister Hugh Peter who later became Chaplain to Oliver Cromwell, and was executed as a regicide. I guess this man was an early minister in the area or something? It took some personality to be likely to have named a son after such a man! m (1) Abigail BATCHELDOR, adau of John of Raylside and Beverly. She did not live very long. They had: Deacon Peter woodbury bp 1636, m Mary DODGE, daughter of Edward DOGE whose sister was his father's second wife, and Mary HASKELL, daughter of William HASKELL of Gloucester who had brother Roger HASKELL living at Beverly. Peter m (2) Sarah DODGE, dau of emoigrant Richard and Edith DODGE, in 1656 or 1657. She bp 1644. They had: *JERUSHA m 1698 George RAYMOND, full brother of William Raymond Jr my ancestor, and son of Capt Wm RAYMOND who married Hannah BISHOP the dau of Edw Bishop sr and stepdaughter to BRIDGET. A dau Hannah m Joshua DODGE. William Raymond and Hannah Bishop are my direct ancestors. So Wm Raymond's brother was married to Christian Woodbury's first cousin. Josiah m Lydia HERRICK, dau of Capt Jos HERRICK m Mary DODGE dau of Wm DODGE and Mary Conant widow of John BALCH a brother of Benjamin the father of Benjamin who m Elizabeth WOODBURY who testified against Sarah and Bridget Bishop, who drowned in a storm,; he was son of Lydia WOODBURY and Henry HERRICK. Benjamin's brother Freeborn is my direct ancestor. SARAH m Deacon John RAYMOND gson of John RAYMOND the brother of Capt William Raymond Sr. Abigail m ___ Lamsom. Anna m John HERRICK son of Joseph Herrick Martha m Ichabod BROWN and had Rev. John BROWN Priscilla Rebecca, both never married. Another Woodbury, John, settled at Beverly who very importantly appears to have been another son of John Wood bury by his first wife. John Woodbury Sr deeded land to Humphrey Woodbury Sr, Cornelius Baker (husband of his daughter), Peter Woodbury, and Elizabeth Dodge widow of John Woodbury deceased, with their only surviving son Ebenezer Woodbury. That makes no sense unless John was his son. John married Eliza who on his death married Capt John DODGE the son of William DODGE. They had: ****** ELIZABETH WOODBURY bp 1654, 8 mo or June, 15. married BENJAMIN BALCH JR, and testified against Sarah and Bridget in 1692! So she was a first cousin of Christian TRASK! Remember, Benjamin's brother Freeborn was my ancestor. John bp 1657 d 1662 Ebenezer Woodbury (identified by the land transfer) Abigail bp 1660. It appears that Christian Trask was tied by marriages to this entire group of families and indirectly to Bridget Bishop. If anyone comes up with a closer tie between the two, I would like to see it. Yours, Dora _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com

I tried to post this twice yesterday, once from the wrong account, then to the wrong address. This time I save draft! I do not know yet who Christian Trask was (or didn't yesterday morning. I will be posting more on her). I saw Kathy's posting on the subject from the day before (and checked it out yesterday afternoon). But I found a considerable amount of important information in my articles at home on who was NOT Christian Trask. The following information is mostly from David Greene's article. Christian Oliver was born in Salem on May 8, 1667. She married Greene estimates 1686, Thomas Mason. Since Greene estimates that, the record must bemissing or he couldn't find it. She had one daughter, Susanna Mason, b Salem, 8/23, 1687. Oliver the husband of Bridget and father of Christian died intestate and Bridget was made administrator of his estate, which got her accused of witchcraft (the first time), as we all know. The estate was not yet settled when Bridget was executed in 1692. It finally was settled in 9/11/1693, when the court ordered the disbursement of Thomas Oliver's estate. The order specified 9 pounds to Edward Bishop "for disbursements on ye house", and 9 pounds to Christian Mason, which suggests she was living. That turns out to be a mistake on the part of the court. In the new administrator's request ofr disbursement of the estate, Susan Mason was listed instead of her motehr to receive the 9pounds. Greene concludes that probably Christian was dead and the administrator knew it, being in a better position to know her status than the court was, and the court order was mistaken. On November 1, 1693, Thomas Mason took a second wife, Abigail (Crtice) Greenslade. So she definitely was dead by 1693, and, as importantly, Thomas Mason was still living. The estate records are pretty good evidence that Bridget's daughter married Thomas Mason and not John Trask. Christian the wife of John Trask committed suicide on June 3, 1689, according to Hale's records (I guess of the Beverly church where he seems to have been the minister), though apparently he testified in 1692 that the episode happened five or six years before 1692. From Hale's description of the events regarding Christian Trask and Sarh Bishop, all of it occurred early in 1689. We know that Christian (Oliver) Mason had a child in 1687. She could not easily have married John Trask by 1689, since her first husband, Thomas Mason, was alive in 1693 when he remarried. There would have had to have been a divorce, that was difficult in those days and would have been a scandal. Furhter, the court in 1693 thought her name was Christian Mason, not Christian Trask. We do not know when Christian Mason died, but it is reasonable to think it was close to 1693 and not back in 1689, since the court did not know she was dead, let alone know of a remarriage and name change for her. So Christian the wife of John Trask must have been someone else. Kathy found evidence that she was Christian Woodberrie/ Woodbury, who marrried John Trask on Apr 9, 1679, in Beverly. This detail sounds like it ought to be easily checked in the Beverly records. The whole issue of some connection between Christian Trask and Bridget Bishop isn't quite put to bed, either by who Christian Trask wasn't, or who she was, in light of the suggestion that they might have been some sort of in-laws to each other. So I am interested in what anyone finds on the matter. Yours, Dora Smith _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com

Hi, I only recently subscribed to this list and have been most interested in the topics discussed and information shared. I would not otherwise have known or gone in pursuit of a copy of the PBS Video drama of Sarah Cloyce, "Three Sovereigns for Sarah." Her sister, Rebecca town Nurse, is my 9th gr. grandmother. A couple of days ago I received a PBS Home Video catalog which lists this for $49.98 (it is approx. 3 hrs of video on 3 tapes). [Tower's price was $59.95 online and they finally sent me an "unable to obtain" message.] There are several ways to order: Call 1-800-645-4727; fax your order to 1-703-8131; or PBS online at www.pbs.org/shop. Perhaps the best is to call so you can add the correct shipping and tax, if any, especially if you want more than one copy. Customer Service is 1-800-531-4727. Rita Knecht [email protected]

Does anyone have the lineage of John WILLARD, victim of the Salem Witch Trials? I have WILLARD all the way back to Simon WILLARD & Mary SHARPE of Concord, MA. I was wondering if he is descended from the same Simon. My WILLARD line marries my NOURSE line. My NOURSE line is from Rebecca NURSE, hung in 1692, Salem Village, MA. Thanks, Katrina

I recently posted the findings in Torrey for the marriage of Christian OLIVER. Torrey also shows John TRASK as follows: TRASK, John & 1/w Christian WOODBERRIE/WOODBURY ( -1689); 9 Apr 1679, Beverly. The two Christians do not appear to be the same person; just the same given name. Kathy Buffington Willett [email protected]