Wow! Terrific work, Thurmon. That takes care of that mystery. Only thing I might add is that Norwich, Mass. is now the town of Huntington, Mass. It was renamed in 1855. It is in the vicinity of Chester, MA, so the article was pretty close to correct. Great job. Cliff McCarthy On 10/17/2012 4:12 PM, Thurmon wrote: > The recent discussion relating to the identity of the parents of Horace > Sackett, Civil War Soldier, who died in Bradford County, PA > [http://thedailyreview.com/news/paying-tribute-to-a-civil-war-veteran-1.1380850 > thedailyreview.com: With offices in Towanda, Sayre, and Troy Pa] ended with > no decision. While updating the Find A Grave listings to include memorials > created since Sept. 14, 2012; I believe I stumbled upon a solution to the > problem. > > During the discussion I mentioned that William Spencer Sackett of Bradford > Co., PA had reported in the 1880 census that his father was born in Ohio. > That didn't agree with the information in the article about the headstone > for Horace Sackett which said that he was born in Chester, MA. Doing a > search for Horace Sackett born in Ohio, I found the following: > > 1860 > OHIO > ASHTABULA > KINGSVILLE > > Series: M653 Roll: 933 Page: 214 [Page No. 33]; 9 June, 1860 > > Post Office: Kingsville, Ohio > > 261/275 > > James Woodworth, 44, M, Lumber dealer, NY > > Mary A. Woodworth, 33, F, ---, Ohio > > Mary R. Woodworth, 18, F, House Work, Ohio > > Lydia A. Woodworth, 16, F, ---, Ohio > > James C. Woodworth, 14, M, ---, Ohio > > Martha C. Woodworth, 12, F, ---, Ohio > > Page 215 [Page No. 34] > > Harriet A. Woodworth, 9, F, ---, Ohio > > Charles Woodworth, 7, M, ---, Ohio > > William Woodworth, 3(?), M, ---, Ohio > > Caroline J. Woodworth, 1, F, ---, Ohio > > Sarah A. Sackett, 9, F, ---, Ohio > > Horace Sackett, 34, M, Teamster, Ohio > > Elvyra Sackett, 30, F, ---, NY > > Ruth R. Sackett, 10, F, ---, Ohio > > William W(?). Sackett, 7, M, ---, Penn [William Spencer] > > John L. Sackett, 5, M, ---, Penn > > This has Horace Sackett and his wife Elvira listed in the household of James > Woodworth. The 4 Sackett children listed is the same number as the ones > listed in the article: > > "Gary Sackett said that Horace Sackett had four children, and was married to > his wife, Elvira. The children's names were John, Spencer, Ruth, and > Elvira." > > The only child with a different name is Sarah A. which could be Sarah > Alvira/Elvira, or, Sarah could have died and another daughter was born after > the 1860 census. > > I couldn't make a connection for James Woodworth and his wife, Mary A. until > I entered this FAG listing: > > Martha (Sackett) Woodworth > > Birth: 1818; Massachusetts, USA > > Death: 1854; Ashtabula County, Ohio, USA > > Burial: > > East Lake Cemetery, North Kingsville, Ashtabula County, Ohio, USA > > Daughter of Mark Sackett, d. 14 Feb 1853 and Sally Heald. > > > Family links: > > Spouse: > > James Woodworth (1816 - 1900) > > Children: > > James Philander Woodworth (1845 - 1906) > > Note: Transcribed at http://www.conneautohio.us/eastlakecemindex_wxyz.htm. > Martha Woodworth, w/o J_______, Located near Philander Woodworth, her > father-in-law. Older stone, date is buried. > > Created by: Genealogy Liz > > Record added: Sep 22, 2012 > > Find A Grave Memorial# 97582316 > > According to the research submitted by Patty Sackett Chrisman; Martha > Sackett married a James WOODRUFF. So, the cemetery records show that Martha > married James WOODWORTH. In my database, Martha had a brother named Horace ! > As can be seen in the FAG memorial, Martha died in 1854. By 1860, James > Woodworth had remarried but Horace Sackett was still associated with him. > James Woodworth was a lumber dealer and Horace was a teamster. > > This led me to take another look at notes I have for Mark Sackett. > > Information supplied by Mary Lou Sackett: > > LDS microlfilm no. 0760649, 175, Intention of marriage between Mr. Mark > Sackett and Miss Polly Herrick both of Norwich entered by me March 17th, > 1810. Samll Wright, T. clerk. > > Information supplied by Lanny Howard a descendant of Mark Sackett: > > "... Jael was one of 6 children: Jael, Miriam, David, Betsy, Mark and > Joseph. Jael's parents were Mark Sacket and Sarah (Sally) Heald - no info > available on them, ..." > > In the notes I have for Mark Sackett; I puzzled over the fact that Patty > Chrisman and Lanny Howard had a difference in the number of children for > Mark; 8 children vs. 6 children. Just this morning, I discovered something > which seems to answer the question. The information supplied by Mary Lou > indicates that Mark Sackett and Miss Polly Herrick, both of Norwich, MA > entered intention of marriage in Mar.,1810. The 1810 census indicates that > they were married by the time the census was taken: > > Sacket, Mark > > Year: 1810; State: MA; County: Hampshire; Township: Norwick > > Roll: M252_19 Page: 110 > > Census: 001 00 - 001 00 > > Mark and his wife are listed as age 16-26 = b. 1784-1794 > > In the 1820 census they are both listed as age 26-45 = b. 1775-1794: > > Sacket, Mark > > Year: 1820; State: MA; County: Hampshire; Township: Norwich > > Roll: M33_50 Page: 136 Image: 141 > > Census: 100 010 - 200 10 > > They have 1 son and 2 daughters > > Between 1820 and 1827, Mark moved to Ashtabula Co., OH: > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohashtab/1827DenmarkTwp.htm [link no longer valid] > > 1827 Denmark Township Census > > ASHTABULA COUNTY, OH > > Extracted and Transcribed by Carol Page Tilson > > Mark Sacket [Sackett] > > Starting with the 1830 census, Mark has a younger wife. 1830: age 30-40 = b. > 1800-1810. According to the transcription I have, her age is the same in > 1840. This could be due to the date of the two censuses. However, by 1850, > Sarah C. Sackett is age 47 = b. 1803 and was born in New York. This > indicates that Sarah C. ____ was the 2nd wife of Mark and that Polly > (Herrick) Sacket had died between 1820 and 1830. This would also indicate > that the FAG memorial for Martha Woodworth is incorrect when it lists > Martha's mother as Sarah Heald [which is the same as the information in my > database presently online]. > > Sacket, Mark [W #567] > > Year: 1830; State: OH; County: Ashtabula; Township: Denmark > > Roll: M19_126 Page: 118 Image: 238 > > Census: 012 000 100 000 0 - 110 001 000 000 0 > > In the 1830 census there are two sons age 10-15 = b. 1815-1820. In 1840 > these sons are age 15-20 = b. 1815-1820. However, the 1820 census shows only > one son (under 10) in the household. This could indicate that there was a > son born in 1820, after the census was taken. It is possible that this could > be Horace, which the article about his headstone indicates that he was born > in July, 1820. > > ------ > > Sackett, Mark [W #567] > > Year: 1840; State: Ohio; County: Ashtabula; Township: Millsford > > Roll: M704_376 Page: 203 > > Census: 101 200 100 000 0 - 211 001 000 000 0 > > ------ > > Year: 1850; State: OH; County: Ashtabula; Township: Dorset > > Roll: M432_659 Page: 494 > > 1749/1812 > > Sackett, Mark 59 m farmer MA [W #567] > > [Sackett], Sarah C. 47 f -- NY > > Sackett, David 14 m -- OH > > Sackett, Jael 12 f -- OH > > Sackett, Betsey M. 10 f -- OH > > Sackett, Mark 8 m -- OH > > Sackett, Joseph 4 m -- OH > > Concluding thoughts > > I hope the remarks above are not confusing. In them, I tried to follow some > of the thought processes I went through while working on this problem. > > I now believe that Horace Sackett was born July, 1820, in Massachusetts. The > location in Massachusetts is uncertain. The article about his headstone says > he was born in Chester Village. The marriage intentions for his parents were > filed in Norwich, Hampshire, MA. The census for 1810 and 1820 has the > household of Mark Sacket in Norwich, Hampshire, MA. Although the 1820 census > has only one son listed, the 1830 census indicates that there was another > son, age 10-15, b. 1815-1820. The 1860 census for the James Woodworth family > has Horace as age 34 (b. c1826) born in Ohio. The accurarcy of this > information would depend upon who supplied the information and whether they > reported what they knew to be correct, or merely what they believed to be > correct. > > The article about the headstone of Horace says that Horace gave his age as > 39 when he enlisted for the Civil War in Dec., 1863. That would put his > birth as about 1824. This conflicted with the headstone which gave his age > as 44 when he died April 25, 1864. Actually, his age would have been 43 > years, 9 months, ---- days. Some headstones give the age at death as; "in > his 44th year" which indicates that the person had passed his 43rd birthday > but had not reached his 44th birthday; which would be the completion of 44 > years. The age given when he enlisted was probably a misrepresentation. I > have seen other records where men around 40, or older, lied about their age > to get into the service. > > Based upon the above, I have moved Mark's children: William, Sally, Martha, > and Horace from being children of Sarah Heald to being the children of Polly > Herrick. I have linked the individual I have as William Spencer "Spencer" as > the son, William. > > Concerning the death of Horace > > It was interesting to see that, in the 1860 census for Kingsville, Ohio, > Horace had two daughters older than William Spencer. They were both born in > Ohio. Then Spencer and his brother, John L. were born in Pennsylvania. The > article about the headstone says: > > "Horace Sackett died in Bradford County while on furlough visiting > relatives." And, according to the record I found, Horace was buried in the > William Bidlack Family Cemetery. Was William Bidlack related in some way to > Horace Sackett? > > Thurmon > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Chris Sackett" <chris@sackett.org.uk> > To: "Sackett Family Mailing List" <sackett@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, October 01, 2012 12:15 AM > Subject: [SACKETT] Who was Civil War veteran Horace Sackett? > > >> There is an article about Civil War veteran Horace Sackett at >> http://thedailyreview.com/news/paying-tribute-to-a-civil-war-veteran-1.1380850 . >> I couldn't find him in a quick look in the database. Anybody able to >> identify him? >> >> Chris > ------------------------------- > The Sackett Family Association website is at http://www.sackettfamily.info/. > > To contact the Sackett List Admin, send a message to SACKETT-admin@rootsweb.com. > > See list information and search the archives at http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/surname/s/sackett.html > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SACKETT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >