The Ontario/Wayne County reference for Rowland Sackett appearing in 1808 in Ontario/Wayne Co NY is:. History Of Wayne County, New York; with Illustrations Descriptive of its Scenery, Palatial Residences, Public Building, Fine Books, and Important Manufactories, From original sketches by artists of the highest ability, [McIntosh, W.H.] Philadelphia: Everts, Ensign & Everts, 716 Filbert STreet 1877 Press of.B. Lippincott & Co., Philadelphia, Penn'a 1877. Press of W.E. Morrison & Co., Ovid, New York 1976 p. 185 Last paragraph of p. 185 reads: <The town of Walworth, NY write up contains the following: > "A year later, in the year 1808, David Tiffany and Rowland Sackett, from Massachusetts, and Jesse Arnold and David Foskett came in. A son and daughter of the latter are living in the town. In 1809, Joseph Stickland, brother to Samuel, died at the age of eighty six......." Further thoughts I've had since writing earlier today are the following: 1. Laura B. Chase was born approximately the time that Rowland left Ontario/Wayne Co for PA - because she was so newly born, she may have been left with an Edson relative to be taken care of while he and Lovina cover wagoned/rafted to Crawford Co PA. 2. Determining the day/month/year that the Norwich twp and Ontario, Co censuses were taken. 3. As you recall from the Surrogate/Circuit Court information that I provided earlier, Rowland/Rollin was in Cattaraugus Co NY by 1829, if not earlier, after his wife, Lovina died in 1824 in Crawford Co PA. He married the widow Permelia/Parmelia Chamberlain, appearing in the 1830 Cattaraugus Co NY census. He also had 2 or 3 children born to him in Cattaraugus Co NY before returning to Crawford Co PA. He had his NY contacts. Dianne Cobb -----Original Message----- From: Cobb, Dianne Sent: Mon 10/20/2003 8:06 AM To: SACKETT-L@rootsweb.com; SACKETT-L@rootsweb.com Cc: Subject: RE: [SACKETT-L] Roland/Rowland/Rolin/Rollin Sacket/Sackett Good morning, Ted Mudge wrote me this weekend that one of the death certificates for Laura B. (Sacket) Chase's sons, Harvey E. Chase, indicates that Laura B. Sacket was born in Ontario Co NY as well as her husband, Martin L. Chase. Laura was born either March 1815 or March 1816. Last February I wrote to the Sackett-L my theory of Zavan's son, Rolin, living in Ontario from 1808 - 1816 based on Wayne Co NY (earlier part of Ontario Co., NY) history book, Ontario Co NY 1810 census record and Ontario Co. tax records that I had obtained on my visit there. My theory was criticized by someone pointing to the 1810 Norwich, MA census which has a Roland Sackett next to Zavan Sacket. They indicated that because Roland lived next to Zavan the Ontario Co Rolin was someone else. Since then, I found: 1810 Norwich census was alphabetical, e.g. one found no T's or A's living in the S's census section Rollin was the eldest of Zavan's children. Based on his death date from his son John's Civil War pension file (Feb, 1863) and on the listing of ages of the Sacket brothers when they died as found in Joseph Sacket's obituary - Rollin was 83 yrs old, he then was born in 1780, placing him as the eldest. Zavan Sacket moved to Crawford Co PA in 1816 (correspondingly, Rollin did not appear in the 1817 tax records for Ontario Co NY) about the time rollin moved out of the County. The Roland Sacket in the 1810 census continued in the MA County area for yrs as well as his son (Roland was the son of Abner - have his 1787 birth record) Further evidence of Rollin being the Zavan son are the Edson's (brother and father of Lovina, Rollin's 1st wife)living in Ontario Co from 1810 - 1826. I am forwarding under separate cover copies of the above cited records. Dianne Cobb -----Original Message----- From: thurmonking@netscape.net [mailto:thurmonking@netscape.net] Sent: Sat 2/22/2003 11:19 AM To: SACKETT-L@rootsweb.com Cc: Subject: RE: [SACKETT-L] Roland/Rowland/Rolin/Rollin Sacket/Sackett Yes; That is another thing one discovers while searching the census images. Especially when comparing the 1850 with the 1880 censuses. I have found more than one instance of the parents reporting one birth place in 1850 and the child reporting a different birth place for the parent in 1880. And, of course, the problem of the enumerators spelling the name the way they heard it, or how they thought it should be spelled. Thurmon BTW I am always having people spelling my name as Thurmond, Therman, Thurman, or Truman. When I was driving a truck, I even had people to confuse my name with the name of the company that makes refrigeration units; Thermo King and had one dispatcher who called me "Reefer" or "Reef" "Cobb, Dianne" <Dianne.Cobb@FairfaxCounty.gov> wrote: >Another Girl Thing - tho Laura and her family believed her life began >when she married Martin in Catt Co circa 1832, it may have begun in >Ontario co in 1816/1814 prior to their moving to Crawford Co in time for >the 1820 census. > >Or it may have begun in MA using the theory that they moved directly >from MA to PA in 1817. > >-----Original Message----- >From: K Powell [mailto:grannytoad@yahoo.com] >Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 6:17 PM >To: SACKETT-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [SACKETT-L] Roland/Rowland/Rolin/Rollin Sacket/Sackett > > >--- Ted Mudge <mudgekin@earthlink.net> wrote: >> Here is an excerpt from Laura (Sackett) Chase's newspaper obituary: >> "In this city, Thursday night Nov. 5, 1896, Laura B. Chase, aged 80 >years, 7 >> months and 5 days. Laura B. Sackett was born in Cattaraugus county, >New >> York, in 1816." Doing the math, I come up with a birth date of 31 >March >> 1816. > >It's a Girl Thing. I've run across that before, including a >great-grandmother >and her sisters - who also changed names as they went along. Where do >you think >the old adage came from "Never ask a woman her age"? > >__________________________________________________ >Do you Yahoo!? >Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more >http://taxes.yahoo.com/ > > >==== SACKETT Mailing List ==== >GEN-NEWBIE-L: No question is too elementary and the atmosphere is >relaxed & friendly. 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