These guys could have been in the War of 1812 ... their sons in the CW in Genesee Co NY. Jill I don't have my notes with me but I believe there was With Sackett in the Civil War. I was supposed to get his record on my last trip but the bad weather in DC had me sent home and I will be getting them on my next trip. Could your With or one of his decendant have been in the Civil War? Liesa