Tom and All; After the post about Simon coming over on the Mayflower and my response to it; I did some searching for the history of the Mayflower and found a fairly complete listing of the different ships named Mayflower and records concerning some of the voyages at: http://www.alden.org/education/mayflowerhistory.htm "... But what has really muddled historians is the Mayflower of 1629 and 1630. Thomas Prence wrote in his journal in August 1629: "Thirty-five of our friends with their families arrived at Plymouth. They shipped at London in May, with the ships that came to Salem, which brings over many pious persons to begin the churches there. So that their being long kept back is now accomplished by Heaven with a double blessing.... The charge is reckoned on the several families, some fifty pounds, some forty, some thirty, as their numbers and expenses were, which our undertakers pay for gratis, besides giving them houses, preparing them grounds to plant on, and maintain them with corn, etc., above thirteen or fourteen months, before they have a harvest of their own production." James Sherley sent a letter with the new arrivals, dated March 25, 1629, which said in part: "Here are now many of yours and our friends from Leyden, coming over who though for the most part be but a weak company, yet herein is a good part of that end ordained, which was aimed at, and which hath been so strongly opposed, by some of our former Adventurers. But God hath His working in these things, which man cannot frustrate. With them we have also sent some servants in the ship called the Talbot that went hence lately; but these come in the Mayflower." And Captain John Smith wrote under the date 1629: "In this year a great company of people of good rank, zeal, means, and quality, have made a great stock, and with six good ships in the months of April and May they set sail from Thames for the Bay of Massachusetts, otherwise called Charles River; viz. the George Bonaventure of twenty pieces of ordnance, the Talbot nineteen, the Lions Whelp eight, the Mayflower fourteen, the Four Sisters fourteen, the Pilgrim four, with three hundred and fifty men, women and children." The master of the Mayflower was William Peirce. Roger Harman commanded the Four Sisters and William Wobridge the Pilgrim. (note the use of "Pilgrim" as a ship's name) In 1630 the Mayflower sailed from Southampton with the Whale. She was listed as "Mayflower of Yarmouth." William Peirce was by then master of the Lion. A Mayflower of Yarmouth, tonnage between 240 and 250, owner Thomas Howarth, is registered as sailing under letters of marque to the fishing grounds off Greenland on July 23, 1626, October 3, 1627, and June 29, 1631." What I find to be interesting in this is that William Peirce/Pearce was master of a ship named "Mayflower" on a voyage to New England in 1629 and then was master of the Lion/Lyon in 1630. When we take this along with some of the specualtion that Simon Sackett's wife Isabel Pearce was possibly a daughter of, or related to William Pierce, master of the Lyon. Hmmm. Thurmon On Wed, 11 Jun 2003 19:28:51 -0400 Tom Smith <tsmith26@comcast.net> writes: > After being away for several days I came back to "Simon Sackett came > over on the Mayflower!" While this is certainly interesting to say > the least, I haven't seen any further comment on it. I didn't have > any luck tracking down the St. Mary's in Thanet that was referenced. > > It seems implausible with what information we have on Simon, that he > was on the Mayflower. I suppose he could have come over, liked what > he saw and went back for Isabel and Junior:) No offense to anyone > intended!!! > On another subject, I haven't seen any further discussion regarding > the "Sackett" Association. I had offered to do some query look-ups > as a way to help out, New Haven being a hotbed of early Sackett > activity and all. Just thought I'd inquire. > Tom Smith > > > ==== SACKETT Mailing List ==== > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > To post a message, address it to:sackett-l@rootsweb.com > To subscribe or unsubscribe, address it to: > sackett-l-request@rootsweb.com (SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE in the > body) > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >