Louella; I found a good example of someone presenting speculation in a way that it appears as "fact." Just this week I found a note relating to the family of Rolin Sackett that I copied into my file of information for his daughter Larua B. who married Martin L. Chase. It related to family of Laura's brother Harvey who married Mary Straw. [Unfortunately I didn't copy the URL of where I got the note. AHEM!!] But when I looked at the information I found that it has a glaring error: Bernice J Donoghue bdonoghue@comcast.net 2003-08-31 07:41:00 Sarah Sackett (dau of Harvey and Mary [Straw]Sackett) born June 30 1840 Crawford Co, PA; died July 20 1918 Farmland, Randolph Co, IN; married May 16 1886 Randolph Co IN, Jacob H James born Sept 5 1831 Augusta Co, VA; died July 13 1905 Randolph Co IN. ---- A couple of years ago we had a discussion relating to the husband of #12608-Sarah Sackett, daughter of #12594-Samuel Sackett and Julia Ann Heath. She married Jacob Horner James and lived in Randolph Co., IN. But the source above says that Jacob H. James married a daughter of Harvey Sackett and Mary Straw; even though I have seen no record that indicates that they had a daughter named Sarah. Perhaps the assumed connection was made based upon an entry in the 1880 census for the Jacob H. James household which gives the birthplace of Sarah's father as PA: 1880 Census; Stony Creek, Randolph, Indiana Family History Library Film 1254307 NA Film Number T9-0307 Page Number 210B Jacob H. JAMES Self M Male W 49 VA Farmer PA VA Sarah JAMES Wife M Female W 39 IN Keeping House PA OH William C. JAMES Son S Male W 13 IN At School VA IN Julia J. JAMES Dau S Female W 12 IN At School VA IN Samuel JAMES Son S Male W 11 IN At School VA IN Nancie E. JAMES Dau S Female W 9 IN At School VA IN Hanah P. JAMES Dau S Female W 5 IN VA IN Jacob W. JAMES Son S Male W 3 IN VA IN Margrett A. JAMES Dau S Female W 1 IN VA IN But the assumption does not explain how Sarah was born in IN when all of Harvey Sackett's children appear to have been born in Crawford Co., PA. For information about Jacob H. James see Ted Smith's website at: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~tcsmith/ggmason/pafg03.htm#87 Thurmon On Wed, 28 Jan 2004 02:42:36 -0500 <louellas@endor.com> writes: <CLIPPED> > I still find that information floating around as a true > and proven family history with her work cited if a citation is > even given. Depressing. > But have to admit in the first few years after starting family > research my citations were sketchy and I would sometimes > accept unproven "facts". It is embarrassing to realize your > errors. But made me go after all sources I can find and I learned > to put my speculations in the notes rather than in the tree. > > Louella