After I posted the message below; It occured to me that I didn't make the point that I intended to make. That is, the one supplying the information for the headstone inscription must to have given what they had as her birthdate. The age at death was calculated upon that information. Thrumon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Thurmon" <thurmonking@gmail.com> To: <sackett@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 21, 2013 6:46 AM Subject: Re: [SACKETT] Sackett Lawrence > Chris & All, > > The source for the 2 May 1701 date can be obtained by using the Legacy > date calculator. Enter the date of death 24 Oct 1772 and the age at death; > 71y, 5m, 12 d. and the result is; "Cal 12 May 1701" > > Thurmon > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Chris Sackett" <chris@sackett.org.uk> > To: <sackett@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2013 10:37 PM > Subject: Re: [SACKETT] Sackett Lawrence > > >> Ted & Debbie, >> >> The birth date of 1700 for Patience Sackett came from Weygant's Sacketts >> of America. Weygant did not give a source. >> >> Find A Grave has a transcription of the gravestone inscription, giving a >> birth date of 12 May 1701: "Sacred to the Memory of Patience Lawrence, >> wife of John Lawrence, Esqr., and daughter of Joseph Sackett of Newtown, >> who was born on the 12th day of May, 1701 and departed this life October >> 24th, 1772; aged 71 years, 5 months and 12 days." The age matches the >> dates, which helps to confirm the accuracy. >> >> I don't find a source for 2 May 1701. >> >> Chris >> >> On 21 Jan 2013, at 02:05, Ted Smith <tcsmith@surewest.net> wrote: >> >>> Good question, Debbie. >>> >>> Good research usually involves documenting the source of information. If >>> you >>> check Thurmon King's database at >>> http://sackettfamily.info/tekdatabase/g7/p7077.htm , you will see the >>> information that TSFA has. Patience's death information comes from The >>> Annals of Newtown in Queens County, New York, by J. Riker (1852). The >>> text >>> of her will is on that web page. King indicates that she was born in >>> 1700, >>> but no source is cited. The birth and death date for John Lawrence >>> appears >>> to be 9 Sep 1693 and 7 May 1865, again in the database, reportedly from >>> Riker. >>> >>> Now we all know that people can make typographical errors. One can check >>> Riker (1852) to see whether Thurmon correctly copied the date. However, >>> that >>> does not preclude Riker's having made an error. I have sometimes found >>> that >>> an author of some local history reports two different birth dates or >>> birth >>> locations for one individual. >>> >>> For birth dates and locations, the best sources are birth certificates >>> (a >>> fairly modern innovation), a family bible, or a church record. Death >>> records >>> sometimes incorrectly report birth dates and locations. >>> >>> Where did the date you report come from? >>> --------------------------------- >>> Ted Smith >>> tcsmith@surewest.net >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Debbie McDonald" <sassy1627@centurylink.net> >>> To: <SACKETT@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2013 10:59 AM >>> Subject: [SACKETT] Sackett Lawrence >>> >>> >>>> I am researching my Lawrence family branch off of Lewis Davis It >>>> has >>>> brought me to my 7th great grandparents >>>> Joh Lawrence bn 9 Sep 1695in Newton, Queens, New York Death7 May >>>> 1765in >>>> Newton, Queens, New York >>>> >>>> and my 7th great grandmother >>>> Patience Sackett bn 2 May 1701 in Long Island City, Queens, New York >>>> Death 24 Oct 1772 in Newton, Queens, New York >>>> >>>> How can i besure this is correct? >>>> >>>> ty >>>> >>>> debbie >>>> texas >

On 21 Jan 2013, at 16:49, Thurmon <thurmon.king@gmail.com> wrote: > After I posted the message below; It occured to me that I didn't make the > point that I intended to make. That is, the one supplying the information > for the headstone inscription must to have given what they had as her > birthdate. The age at death was calculated upon that information. Thurmon, Agreed! I might have made my point better: that the consistency of the dates and age tends to confirm the accuracy of the transcription of what is on the gravestone; i.e. that 12 May is more likely than 2 May. Chris > > Thrumon > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Thurmon" <thurmonking@gmail.com> > To: <sackett@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, January 21, 2013 6:46 AM > Subject: Re: [SACKETT] Sackett Lawrence > > >> Chris & All, >> >> The source for the 2 May 1701 date can be obtained by using the Legacy >> date calculator. Enter the date of death 24 Oct 1772 and the age at death; >> 71y, 5m, 12 d. and the result is; "Cal 12 May 1701" >> >> Thurmon >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Chris Sackett" <chris@sackett.org.uk> >> To: <sackett@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2013 10:37 PM >> Subject: Re: [SACKETT] Sackett Lawrence >> >> >>> Ted & Debbie, >>> >>> The birth date of 1700 for Patience Sackett came from Weygant's Sacketts >>> of America. Weygant did not give a source. >>> >>> Find A Grave has a transcription of the gravestone inscription, giving a >>> birth date of 12 May 1701: "Sacred to the Memory of Patience Lawrence, >>> wife of John Lawrence, Esqr., and daughter of Joseph Sackett of Newtown, >>> who was born on the 12th day of May, 1701 and departed this life October >>> 24th, 1772; aged 71 years, 5 months and 12 days." The age matches the >>> dates, which helps to confirm the accuracy. >>> >>> I don't find a source for 2 May 1701. >>> >>> Chris >>> >>> On 21 Jan 2013, at 02:05, Ted Smith <tcsmith@surewest.net> wrote: >>> >>>> Good question, Debbie. >>>> >>>> Good research usually involves documenting the source of information. If >>>> you >>>> check Thurmon King's database at >>>> http://sackettfamily.info/tekdatabase/g7/p7077.htm , you will see the >>>> information that TSFA has. Patience's death information comes from The >>>> Annals of Newtown in Queens County, New York, by J. Riker (1852). The >>>> text >>>> of her will is on that web page. King indicates that she was born in >>>> 1700, >>>> but no source is cited. The birth and death date for John Lawrence >>>> appears >>>> to be 9 Sep 1693 and 7 May 1865, again in the database, reportedly from >>>> Riker. >>>> >>>> Now we all know that people can make typographical errors. One can check >>>> Riker (1852) to see whether Thurmon correctly copied the date. However, >>>> that >>>> does not preclude Riker's having made an error. I have sometimes found >>>> that >>>> an author of some local history reports two different birth dates or >>>> birth >>>> locations for one individual. >>>> >>>> For birth dates and locations, the best sources are birth certificates >>>> (a >>>> fairly modern innovation), a family bible, or a church record. Death >>>> records >>>> sometimes incorrectly report birth dates and locations. >>>> >>>> Where did the date you report come from? >>>> --------------------------------- >>>> Ted Smith >>>> tcsmith@surewest.net >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Debbie McDonald" <sassy1627@centurylink.net> >>>> To: <SACKETT@rootsweb.com> >>>> Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2013 10:59 AM >>>> Subject: [SACKETT] Sackett Lawrence >>>> >>>> >>>>> I am researching my Lawrence family branch off of Lewis Davis It >>>>> has >>>>> brought me to my 7th great grandparents >>>>> Joh Lawrence bn 9 Sep 1695in Newton, Queens, New York Death7 May >>>>> 1765in >>>>> Newton, Queens, New York >>>>> >>>>> and my 7th great grandmother >>>>> Patience Sackett bn 2 May 1701 in Long Island City, Queens, New York >>>>> Death 24 Oct 1772 in Newton, Queens, New York >>>>> >>>>> How can i besure this is correct? >>>>> >>>>> ty >>>>> >>>>> debbie >>>>> texas >> > > ------------------------------- > The Sackett Family Association website is at http://www.sackettfamily.info/. > > To contact the Sackett List Admin, send a message to SACKETT-admin@rootsweb.com. > > See list information and search the archives at http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/surname/s/sackett.html > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SACKETT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message