I believe that Niram is correct.  From my info: NIRAM SACKETT Born October 31, 1797, Stanford, Dutchess CO NY, son of Jehial SACKETT (1768-1832) and Samantha KNAPP, And Grandson of Samuel SACKETT born 1747, , Rev. War Veteran, and Thankful WOOD, Niram married in Washington Co NY, Sept. 20, 1824 to Catherine THORN who was born Dec. 19, 1806. He was commissioned by Gov. DeWitt Clinton a captain of the militia, in 1822, and by Gov. Yates ,as colonel in 1824. He was called out with his regiment to attended the reception for General LaFayette, at Poughkeepsie, in 1824. At an early age he commenced the mercantile business at Mabbettsville, which he continued until 1829, when he removed with his father-in-law John I. THORN to Chautauqua Co and settled at Cattaraugus Flats, (Now Irving) He was for several terms elected a justice of the peace in Hanover, and was for many years an associate judge of the county courts. He died in Irving, October 22, 1869 , of disease of the heart. Judge Niram SACKETT had 6 children 1.) Jehiel SACKETT born Sept 15, 1825 married to Laura SACKETT, by whom he had 2 children, Isabella, 1864,Wife of Charles Wesley Stebbins, Her DAR ID Number: 79142 and Marcus, 1865 2.) John J. Sackett, born April 5, 1827, married 1858 to Henrietta HARRISON, they had 2 children, Cora, 1859, and Sarah, 1862. Mrs. Sackett died 2/3/1863 and he remarried to Jane WATTS of North East PA, they have 1 dau, Ida T. born 11/20/1873 3.) Joseph T. Sackett, born March 4, 1829, married Mrs. Sarah M. CANFIELD, resides in Brooklyn 4.) Marcus, born Nov. 28, 1830, married Henrietta SEAMAN, a son John born 6/13/1858, married 2nd, Susan Grand Girard , their daughter Greta SACKETT, Born in Brooklyn, N. Y. DAR ID Number: 96852 5.) Samantha SACKETT, born 9/28/1932, married Edward STILES, lives Litchfield Illinois, has 2 children Charles S, 1862 and Gertrude, 1864 6.) Niram Jr. Sackett, born June 29, 1835, married to Arvilla L. BONNEY, had 2 children Catherine B, born 8/7/1867 and Niram B, born 11/12/1872 ============ War of 1812 - Members of NY State Militia Niram Sackett: 1797-1869. Appointed Captian by Gov. DeWitt. ====================== submitted by Mike Sackett: Pioneers of Western New York (date unknown) Pages 106/107 Sackett Bible, published in 1859 by New York Bible Society, owned by miss Marguerite Sackett. Marriages Grand Girard, Susan M., widow of Rev S. P. Sloane, and Marcus Sackett at Winnebago, Ill Aug 21, 1777. (Evidently in error, 1877 would fit other dates). Sackett, Niram and Catherine Thorn, Sept 30, 1824 in Dutchess County Sackett, Marcus, son of Niram and Henrietta Seaman, June 16, 1867, New York City Sackett, John I, son of Niram and Catherine and Henrietta Harrison, June 10, 1858 at Irving, New York Sackett, John I m a second wife Jennie Watts Oct 10, 1868 at North East, PA Sackett, Semantha, dau of Niram and Catherine, and Edward R Stiles, Aug 8, 1861, Irving Sackett, Jehial, son of Niram and Catherine and Laura dau of Nathan Sackett, July 3, 1863 at Irving Sackett, Niram Jr, son of Niram and Catherine and Arvilla L Bonney, Sept 28, 1865 Sackett, Joseph T, son of Niram and Catherine, and Mrs SAarah M Canfield, Nov 18, 1872 at Brooklyn Births Sackett, John, Seaman, son of Marcus and Henrietta, June 3, 1858, New York City Sackett, Marguerite, dau of Marcus and Susan M. G. Nov 27, 1878, New York City Sackett, Niram, Oct 31, 1797, Stanford, Dutchess County. Sackett, Catherine Thorn, his wife, Dec 19, 1806, Dutvhess County, Their Children - Jehiel, Sept 15, 1825, John I, Apr 5, 1827, Joseph     More About NIRAMSACKETT, COL:ATHERINETHORNE:IRAMSACKETTand CATHERINETHORNE: Burial: Evergreen Lawn Cem., /Hanover Center, Chautauqua Co., NY13,14 Cause of Death: heart disease14 Census: 1830, Hanover, Chautauqua Co., NY15,16 Fact 1: NYS Militia: NIRAM Sackett 1797-1869. Appointed Capt. by Gov. DeWitt16 Fact 2: 1829, Removed to Cattaraugus Flats (now Irving), Chautauqua Co., NY16 Fact 3: Born on the old Sackett homestead in Dutchess Co., NY17,18 Fact 4: Moved with his wife & 3 children to Chautauqua co, and in 1834 built the first saw mill on Cattaraugus creek at Irving.19,20 Military service: War of 1812 & Civil War21,22 Occupation: At an early age he commenced the mercantile business at Mabbettsville until 182922 Politics: Democrat22 More About C Burial: Evergreen Lawn Cem., /Hanover Center, Chautauqua Co., NY22 Census: 1880, Irving, Chautaugua Co., NY; age 73, b. NY; widow22 More About N Marriage: 30 Sep 1824, Dutchess Co., NY23,24,25 (more info avaialbe on decendents if needed)   Mary Lou Sackett, DC www.backtobasicsnaturally.com     ________________________________ From: Chris Sackett <[email protected]> To: Sackett Family Discussion List <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 3:35:39 PM Subject: [SACKETT] Hiram/Niram Sackett 1835-1903 The LDS FamilySearch transcript of the 1880 census for the family of Hiram/Niram Sackett is: 1880 Census; Irving, Chautauqua, New York FHL Film 1254816; NA Film T9-0816 Page 425B Hiram SACKET, Self, M, M, W, 44, NY, Farmer, NY, NY Arvile SACKET, Wife, F, M, W, 33, NY, Keeping House, NY, NY Cathrine A. SACKET, Dau, F, S, W, 18, NY, At School, NY, NY Bushe SACKET, Son, M, S, W, 7, NY, --, NY, NY Thorn SACKET, Son, M, S, W, 5, NY, --, F On looking at the original image on Ancestry, it looks to me that the following could be changed: "Hiram" is more likely "Niram". There is other data suggesting his name was Niram. On the handwriting, the "H" of "Hiram" does not look like the writer's other letter Hs (see "Hattie" and "Here" near top of page, and "Keeping House" several times). "Cathrine" should be "Catherine". Her age, 18, is more likely "10". It's most unlikely she would have been at school at age 18. If Weygant has the right date of birth, 7 Aug 1867, she would actually have been 12. "Bushe" is, I think, actually "Burtie". His full name was Niram Burt, and it would make sense for him to have been nicknamed something other than Niram if his father's name was also Niram. Arvile's age also looks more like 38 than 33, although it looks as though someone has written "33" faintly alongside the original writing of the age. If her age, 21, at marriage in Sep 1865 was right, she would have been 35 at the census date. I'd be glad of another opinion on this record if someone has access to Ancestry. Regards, Chris Sackett SACKETT is a Discussion list for Sackett/Sacket Family Genealogy.  Associated URL's for this surname:  http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~sidersn/sackett/ and http://www.sackettfamily.info/ If you need any help, email the List Admin at: [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

In the 1850 census his name is Niram. In the 1860 Census his name is clearly Niram. The 1870 Census clearly has his name as Niram but the census taker put his wife's name as Alice with daughter Catherine A. age 3. The 1800 Census proves to be a guessing game.but the other censuses and other sources show that his name was Hiram. Concerning his son, Buske, I believe it is Burtie. The enumeratior, Lucius Christy, wasn't consistant in dotting his "i"s and crossing his "t"s. For the "t" in Catherine; he didn't cross the "t"; unless the mark is almost blended into the line above the name. Concerning the "i"s; he didn't do the "i" in Niram, Arvile, or Hattie Burkman in the 2nd household from the top of the page. The transcription of Niram's marriage record has his name as Hiram: http://www.rootsweb.com/~mistcla2/m_records2.htm St. Clair County, Michigan Marriages: 1857-1866; Book 2 28 Sept 1865, Marine City Hiram Sackett, 30, Irving, New York Arvilla L. Bonney, 21, Marine City Ansel Clough & Lucina Clough, both of Marine City; J.B. Prichard, Minister Although the information I have for him gives his death as 1903; I have been unable to find him in the 1900 census. http://www.rootsweb.com/~nychauta/CEMETERY/Evgrn_rc.html Evergreen Lawn Cemetery, Hanover Center, Chautauqua Co., NY Sackett, Nirum Lot 44; d. Apr 4, 1903 His name is the bio for his father gives his name as Niram, Jr. and his son Burt is listed as Niram B. History of Chautauqua Co, NY From Its 1st Settlement to the Present Time By Andrew Young, 1875 Hanover; Page 423/a486 NIRAM Sackett was born October 3 I, 1797, at Stanford, Dutchess Co., NY. He was married at Washington, in that county, Sept. 30, 1824, to Catharine Thorn, who was born Dec. 19, 1806. He was commissioned by Gov. DeWitt Clinton a captain of the militia in 1822; and by Gov. Joseph C. Yates as colonel in 1824. He was called out with his regiment to attend at the reception of Gen. La Fayette at Poughkeepsie in 1824. At an early age he commenced the mercantile business at Mabbettsville, which he continued until 1829, when he removed with his father-in-law, John I. Thorn, to Chautauqua Co., and settled on Cattaraugus Flats, [now Irving.] He was elected for several terms a justice of the peace in Hanover, and was for many years an associate judge of the county courts. He died at Irving, the 22d of Oct. 1869, of disease of the heart, aged 72. In the obituary notice accompanying the announcement of his death, he is represented as " affable and courteous in his manner, decided in his convictions, a man of strict integrity and of comprehensive mind, and scrupulously just; evincing, in his judicial character, those qualities of mind and heart which made him both the able and the just judge." His principal business during his residence in the county was farming, in which he was successful; leaving his family abundantly provided for. His death was deeply lamented by his family and the community generally. Judge Niram Sackett had 6 children: 1. Jehiel, who was born Sept. 15, 1825, and was married July 3, 1863, to Laura Sackett, by whom he had 2 children: Isabella, born April 16, 1864; and Marcus, born Sept. 21, 1865. 2. John J., born April 5, 1827, and married, June 10, 1458, to Henrietta Harrison. They had 2 children: Cora, born Sept. 10, 1859; and Sarah, born Aug. 12, 1862. Mrs. Sackett died Feb. 3, 1863; and Mr. S. married, Oct. 6, 1868, Jane Watts, of North East, PA. They have a daughter, Ida T., born Nov. 20, 1873. 3. Joseph T, born March 4, 1829; married, Nov. 18, 1872, to Mrs. Sarah M. Canfield. He is a graduate of the Law School at Albany, and resides in Brooklyn. 4. Marcus, born Nov. 28, 1830; married, June 16, 1857, to Henrietta Seaman. They have a son, John S., born June 13, 1885. 5. Semzntha, born Sept. 28, 1832; married, Aug. 8, 1861, to Edward R. Stiles, Litchfield, IL and has 2 children: Charles S.: born May 12, 1862 and Gertrude, born Feb. 9, 1864. 6. Niram, Jr., born June 29, 1835; married, Sept. 28, 1865 to Arvilla L. Bonney; and has 2 children: Catharine A., born Aug. 7, 1867; and Niram B., born Nov. 12, 1872 Thurmon ----- Original Message ----- From: "MaryLou" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 1:58 PM Subject: Re: [SACKETT] Hiram/Niram Sackett 1835-1903 I believe that Niram is correct. From my info: NIRAM SACKETT Born October 31, 1797, Stanford, Dutchess CO NY, son of Jehial SACKETT (1768-1832) and Samantha KNAPP, And Grandson of Samuel SACKETT born 1747, , Rev. War Veteran, and Thankful WOOD, Niram married in Washington Co NY, Sept. 20, 1824 to Catherine THORN who was born Dec. 19, 1806. He was commissioned by Gov. DeWitt Clinton a captain of the militia, in 1822, and by Gov. Yates ,as colonel in 1824. He was called out with his regiment to attended the reception for General LaFayette, at Poughkeepsie, in 1824. At an early age he commenced the mercantile business at Mabbettsville, which he continued until 1829, when he removed with his father-in-law John I. THORN to Chautauqua Co and settled at Cattaraugus Flats, (Now Irving) He was for several terms elected a justice of the peace in Hanover, and was for many years an associate judge of the county courts. He died in Irving, October 22, 1869 , of disease of the heart. Judge Niram SACKETT had 6 children 1.) Jehiel SACKETT born Sept 15, 1825 married to Laura SACKETT, by whom he had 2 children, Isabella, 1864,Wife of Charles Wesley Stebbins, Her DAR ID Number: 79142 and Marcus, 1865 2.) John J. Sackett, born April 5, 1827, married 1858 to Henrietta HARRISON, they had 2 children, Cora, 1859, and Sarah, 1862. Mrs. Sackett died 2/3/1863 and he remarried to Jane WATTS of North East PA, they have 1 dau, Ida T. born 11/20/1873 3.) Joseph T. Sackett, born March 4, 1829, married Mrs. Sarah M. CANFIELD, resides in Brooklyn 4.) Marcus, born Nov. 28, 1830, married Henrietta SEAMAN, a son John born 6/13/1858, married 2nd, Susan Grand Girard , their daughter Greta SACKETT, Born in Brooklyn, N. Y. DAR ID Number: 96852 5.) Samantha SACKETT, born 9/28/1932, married Edward STILES, lives Litchfield Illinois, has 2 children Charles S, 1862 and Gertrude, 1864 6.) Niram Jr. Sackett, born June 29, 1835, married to Arvilla L. BONNEY, had 2 children Catherine B, born 8/7/1867 and Niram B, born 11/12/1872 ============ War of 1812 - Members of NY State Militia Niram Sackett: 1797-1869. Appointed Captian by Gov. DeWitt. ====================== submitted by Mike Sackett: Pioneers of Western New York (date unknown) Pages 106/107 Sackett Bible, published in 1859 by New York Bible Society, owned by miss Marguerite Sackett. Marriages Grand Girard, Susan M., widow of Rev S. P. Sloane, and Marcus Sackett at Winnebago, Ill Aug 21, 1777. (Evidently in error, 1877 would fit other dates). Sackett, Niram and Catherine Thorn, Sept 30, 1824 in Dutchess County Sackett, Marcus, son of Niram and Henrietta Seaman, June 16, 1867, New York City Sackett, John I, son of Niram and Catherine and Henrietta Harrison, June 10, 1858 at Irving, New York Sackett, John I m a second wife Jennie Watts Oct 10, 1868 at North East, PA Sackett, Semantha, dau of Niram and Catherine, and Edward R Stiles, Aug 8, 1861, Irving Sackett, Jehial, son of Niram and Catherine and Laura dau of Nathan Sackett, July 3, 1863 at Irving Sackett, Niram Jr, son of Niram and Catherine and Arvilla L Bonney, Sept 28, 1865 Sackett, Joseph T, son of Niram and Catherine, and Mrs SAarah M Canfield, Nov 18, 1872 at Brooklyn Births Sackett, John, Seaman, son of Marcus and Henrietta, June 3, 1858, New York City Sackett, Marguerite, dau of Marcus and Susan M. G. Nov 27, 1878, New York City Sackett, Niram, Oct 31, 1797, Stanford, Dutchess County. Sackett, Catherine Thorn, his wife, Dec 19, 1806, Dutvhess County, Their Children - Jehiel, Sept 15, 1825, John I, Apr 5, 1827, Joseph More About NIRAMSACKETT, COL:ATHERINETHORNE:IRAMSACKETTand CATHERINETHORNE: Burial: Evergreen Lawn Cem., /Hanover Center, Chautauqua Co., NY13,14 Cause of Death: heart disease14 Census: 1830, Hanover, Chautauqua Co., NY15,16 Fact 1: NYS Militia: NIRAM Sackett 1797-1869. Appointed Capt. by Gov. DeWitt16 Fact 2: 1829, Removed to Cattaraugus Flats (now Irving), Chautauqua Co., NY16 Fact 3: Born on the old Sackett homestead in Dutchess Co., NY17,18 Fact 4: Moved with his wife & 3 children to Chautauqua co, and in 1834 built the first saw mill on Cattaraugus creek at Irving.19,20 Military service: War of 1812 & Civil War21,22 Occupation: At an early age he commenced the mercantile business at Mabbettsville until 182922 Politics: Democrat22 More About C Burial: Evergreen Lawn Cem., /Hanover Center, Chautauqua Co., NY22 Census: 1880, Irving, Chautaugua Co., NY; age 73, b. NY; widow22 More About N Marriage: 30 Sep 1824, Dutchess Co., NY23,24,25 (more info avaialbe on decendents if needed) Mary Lou Sackett, DC www.backtobasicsnaturally.com ________________________________ From: Chris Sackett <[email protected]> To: Sackett Family Discussion List <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 3:35:39 PM Subject: [SACKETT] Hiram/Niram Sackett 1835-1903 The LDS FamilySearch transcript of the 1880 census for the family of Hiram/Niram Sackett is: 1880 Census; Irving, Chautauqua, New York FHL Film 1254816; NA Film T9-0816 Page 425B Hiram SACKET, Self, M, M, W, 44, NY, Farmer, NY, NY Arvile SACKET, Wife, F, M, W, 33, NY, Keeping House, NY, NY Cathrine A. SACKET, Dau, F, S, W, 18, NY, At School, NY, NY Bushe SACKET, Son, M, S, W, 7, NY, --, NY, NY Thorn SACKET, Son, M, S, W, 5, NY, --, F On looking at the original image on Ancestry, it looks to me that the following could be changed: "Hiram" is more likely "Niram". There is other data suggesting his name was Niram. On the handwriting, the "H" of "Hiram" does not look like the writer's other letter Hs (see "Hattie" and "Here" near top of page, and "Keeping House" several times). "Cathrine" should be "Catherine". Her age, 18, is more likely "10". It's most unlikely she would have been at school at age 18. If Weygant has the right date of birth, 7 Aug 1867, she would actually have been 12. "Bushe" is, I think, actually "Burtie". His full name was Niram Burt, and it would make sense for him to have been nicknamed something other than Niram if his father's name was also Niram. Arvile's age also looks more like 38 than 33, although it looks as though someone has written "33" faintly alongside the original writing of the age. If her age, 21, at marriage in Sep 1865 was right, she would have been 35 at the census date. I'd be glad of another opinion on this record if someone has access to Ancestry. Regards, Chris Sackett SACKETT is a Discussion list for Sackett/Sacket Family Genealogy. Associated URL's for this surname: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~sidersn/sackett/ and http://www.sackettfamily.info/ If you need any help, email the List Admin at: [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message SACKETT is a Discussion list for Sackett/Sacket Family Genealogy. Associated URL's for this surname: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~sidersn/sackett/ and http://www.sackettfamily.info/ If you need any help, email the List Admin at: [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message