yes i'm having the same problem about 120 + since logging in this morning , if someone does'nt soon pull the plug i shall be unsubscribing for good , the bloke is an absolute menace Brian >----Original Message---- >From: [email protected] >Date: 25/07/2009 12:04 >To: <[email protected]>, <[email protected]> >Subj: Re: [SACKETT] Fwd: MGC Library of Michigan update PLEASE sharewithMICHIGAN researchers > > Hi I have just received 27 out of the office from this chap.. All in less >than one minute! Can some one pull the plug? Regards. Arabella Sackett >London .United Kingdom. > >-----Original Message----- >From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected] com] On >Behalf Of [email protected] >Sent: 25 July 2009 04:53 >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [SACKETT] Fwd: MGC Library of Michigan update PLEASE >sharewithMICHIGAN researchers > >Can dave be temporarily unenrolled. I have gotten 10 out of office messages >in the last 30 ". > >Thanks. >SuE >Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > >-----Original Message----- >From: Nancy Cluff Siders <[email protected]> > >Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 20:20:45 >To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>; <[email protected] com>; ><[email protected]>; <[email protected]>; <[email protected] com>; ><[email protected]>; <[email protected]> >Subject: [SACKETT] Fwd: MGC Library of Michigan update PLEASE share with > MICHIGAN researchers > > > >Dick Eastman writes about "Governor Eliminates Michigan State Library" >at: >http://blog.eogn.com/eastmans_online_genealogy/2009/07/governor- eliminates-m >ichigan-state-library.html > >Thanks Gina for sharing the following: >> From: [email protected] >> To: [email protected] >> Sent: 7/21/2009 6:32:25 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time >> Subj: MGC Library of Michigan update >> >> Good morning, >> >> Here are two of the many, many e-mails received by the Michigan >> Genealogical Council over the past week in support of the Library of >> Michigan. >> >> The first one is a letter to the Governor from our Vice- President, >> Sue Irvine. The second is a report of Lt. John Cherry's Town Hall >> meeting in Detroit, on Thursday, July 15. The disturbing thing >> about these Town Hall meetings is they have very little advance >> notice of where and when they are being held. >> >> >> >> Please share the news with your Society membership. The Library of >> Michigan needs our help NOW. There was a shocking article in the >> Lansing State Journal on Sunday, July 19 outlining the Governor's >> plans for the Michigan Historical Center, the building that houses >> the Library and Archives of Michigan. Please add your comments to >> the bottom of this article. The Lansing State Journal article is >> located at: >http://www.lansingstatejournal. com/article/20090719/NEWS06/907190625/1102/NE >WS06 >> . >> >> >> >> In addition, please write to your State senator and State >> representative urging support for Senate Bills 503-527. SB 518 is >> the one, which specifically addresses the Library. These bills >> would place the parts of History, Arts, and Libraries under the >> Secretary of State. From the comments, we have been hearing and >> reading, MSU is not interested in all of the assets of the Library >> of Michigan, in fact the Executive Order instructs them to break up >> parts of the collection. >> >> >> >> As Sue mentions in her letter, our website is being updated daily. >> The newer items are on our home page, http://mimgc.org. Older items >> can be found by visiting the Legislative Items page, which can be >> found on the left hand menu or directly at >http://mimgc.org/legislation.html >> . >> >> >> The Michigan Genealogical Council is planning an event where we can >> show our support for the Library; details will be available as soon >> as everything is finalized. >> >> >> >> Tom Koselka, Corresponding Secretary >> >> Michigan Genealogical Council >> >> >> >> >> >> LIBRARY OF MICHIGAN >> - is in an ominous position!!! >> >> >> >> "The Value of the State Library" (June 28, 2009) article by Candy >> Spiegel , Livingston Daily news, says it very well! Read her >> article and others at http://MIMGC.org >> >> >> >> Here are some more thoughts! >> >> If you don't know where you come from, how will you know where >> you're going!? Genealogy is the 2nd biggest hobby in the United >> States! People travel across the country finding records and >> photos. Knowing a relative served in the Civil War makes the study >> of history more interesting! WWI, WWII, Were my relatives in the >> service? Which battles? Were they community leaders? Why do I >> enjoy art? What about my health? My DNA? >> >> >> >> When Michigan's governor came out with her executive order on July >> 13th the family history research community was in shock! "Surely >> there's a mistake!" She's not going to split up the 10th largest >> collection in the United States?" Michigan State University >> doesn't want it. MSU needs classrooms and teachers. Where would >> be park?? Roger Moffat calculated that Granholm's idea would save >> only $2 million. A drop in the bucket! "If everyone in Michigan >> paid $0.30 we could cover that!" >> >> >> >> Then we heard more! She's planning to "rent out" our building? >> For a high school? 500 students? It's supposed to save $9 >> million? That's the combine History, Arts, and Libraries budget. >> (Is she including the archives in her plan?) The Library of Michigan >> has a special heating/cooling system designed for open shelving of >> books. Sound travels from floor to floor in the large open center. >> Her idea would require extensive heating/cooling changes along with >> the need for increased bathroom facilities - costing much more than >> "rent" money. I'm wondering if the Lansing area Schools have funds >> to "rent" such a building in the first place. Who'd be their >> students? Does our governor think this idea would "pass" so the >> legislators' kids had a cool new building?? Is that a "good" use >> of the 10th largest Genealogical collection? >> >> >> >> Capital Area District Libraries? The Lansing Library system keeps >> their historical and biographical materials in the basement of the >> Forest Parke Library. Thousands of photographs, dozens of family >> and personal manuscripts, original artwork, pre civil war diaries. >> Boxes and boxes! Lansing Libraries open this collection for 4 >> hours twice per month! They cannot afford hire staff for the >> collection they have. They certainly can't cram much more in that >> basement! >> >> >> >> We, the genealogical community know that times are tough! But >> "Tough times make Tough people!" to borrow a book title! 180 + >> years of collecting Michigan's story. Have you touched a copy of >> your family's history that's 150 years old .a book actually written >> by your great-great-relative. Have you seen his "mark"? What >> about his log mark? Have you said "Thank God, someone saved this >> book!" "I knew great grandparents came to Michigan - but didn't >> know in which county to look!" "Whow! Grandpa came to Michigan >> from New York! Look - here's a book with his name written 100 >> years ago" "Thank you! Thank you!" We hear those comments all the >> time at the Library of Michigan! Donations mostly! Part of our >> collection is from generous contributions from The Abrams >> Foundation. Millions of dollars throughout the years! Donations, >> gifts, and great leadership built our collection! The Library of >> Michigan has a vision! >> >> Michigan residents can be VERY proud of the State's Collection. In >> Fort Wayne, the Allen County Public Library draws hundreds of people >> to their facility year after year - just to do genealogical >> research. Ft.Wayne has facilities for visitors! They've had >> national conventions! They sponsor multiple yearly events focusing >> on the use their collection. The Library of Michigan could do the >> same. Michigan residents would do better to publicize our State >> Resource. Granholm wants JOBS? Build a few motels/hotels/inns to >> accommodate visitors in the area just like they do in Indiana! (no >> - don't use our library for a hotel either!!!). Advertisers, trip >> coordinators, clerks, wait staff!! Promulgate Lansing area >> events. Our library is free! How about coupons for food or >> motels? Advertize tours of the library and museum. Add the >> Library of Michigan to the tourism brochures! >> >> >> >> Sue Irvine, >> >> Vice-president, Michigan Genealogical Council. >> >> 4215 Northgate St NE >> >> Grand Rapids, Mi 49525 >> >> 616-364-9629 >> >> [email protected] >> >> >> >> >> >> Where to look: >> >> >http://www.legislature.mi.gov/(S(twnw5o4520diom45tdocax45))/mileg. aspx?page= >SponsorSearch >> >> >> >> Senate districts: >> >> http://senate.michigan.gov/2003/senatedistricts.pdf >> >> >> >> Representative districts: >> >> http://www.michigan.gov/documents/House_state_16750_7.pdf >> >> >> >> From: Mary Lou Duncan >> Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2009 10:56 PM >> To: >> Subject: "Town Hall Meeting" last Thursday night >> >> Hi all, >> >> This is fairly urgent. There is to be another "Town Hall Meeting" >> chaired by Lieut. Governor Cherry this week in Royal Oak. I believe >> it is to be held at Royal Oak High School, but I don't know the day. >> It will again be scheduled from 6 to 7:30 p.m. - still light out. I >> think it would help our cause to have at least five or six people >> from genealogical societies attend the meeting and speak out for >> retaining the Library of Michigan and the Archives. Perhaps some >> from the Oakland Co. Gen. Society could make it. These meetings are >> NOT well publicized. There was a brief article in the Detroit Free >> Press Thursday, the morning of the meeting. It said that it would be >> at Wayne State but no mention of whether tickets would be needed or >> what building it would be in. It took me four phone calls to various >> departments at Wayne before I could get the information - and then >> it was 4 p.m. and I was told I should be there by >> 5:15 p.m. [For Joanne - I was safe enough. It was right across the >> street from the parking structure and a police car was there >> afterwards.] It is billed to be a Town Meeting on "Streamlining >> State Government" but has nothing to do with it. If you search on >> Google for "Seven Core Functions of Government" it will take you to >> the office of Governor page that contains them. They are full of the >> type of "mission statements" that will bring "yes" votes on the >> little clickers. The people in the audience are given clickers to >> vote "yes" or "no" after each of the seven statements are read. The >> tally is then shown on a screen. At the end one man said, "You are >> going to go back to Lansing and tell everyone that the public >> overwhelmingly is in favor of what is written, when, in reality it >> is about means, not ends, and is so general that you get "yes" >> votes. [Think of motherhood and apple pie.] >> However, at the end of reading each statement, the audience is >> encouraged to comment and a mike is given to the person raising his >> hand. The last sentence under 2. Education is "The state should >> provide a statewide public library system to support the continuum >> of education for both our children and adult citizens." I stood and >> asked how they could say that and then close the LIbrary of Michigan >> and give some of the collection to Michigan State University for >> their library where parking for elderly adults and the infirm would >> be extremely difficult and end participation in MelCat that enabled >> citizens around Michigan to find the location of books and check >> them out, having them sent to their local library - and how could >> they break up a collection that was started 180 years ago? After >> they finished all seven "statements", they asked for additional >> comments. I immediately held up my hand and asked why they would >> want to break up a collection and library that was one of the ten >> most outstanding libraries in the U.S. for local history and >> genealogy. I said, "Mothball it, shorten hours, charge if you must, >> but DON'T break up the the collection - once gone, it is permanently >> GONE." I also read the most important points of the Executive Order >> for those who didn't know about it. State Representative Fred >> Durhal, Jr., District 6 (that includes Wayne area), took exception >> to my remarks. He introduced himself to the group and said he was on >> the Appropriations Committee and deep cuts MUST be made even if we >> don't like them. He said U of M in the Gutenberg Project is >> providing thousands of scanned books and he seemed to think that >> those in the Library of Michigan were covered (they are not all >> covered.) Anyway, I had several other people give me the "thumbs up" >> sign when I was done with my passionate plea to retain the library >> You can reach Fred Durhal, Jr. at P.O. Box 30014, Lansing, MI >> 48909-7514; or [email protected] or toll-free (877) 877-9007 >> >> If others went to the Town Hall Meeting this week in Royal Oak, they >> could also comment after the section on Education and at the close. >> I would suggest some sitting in one row and some in another and more >> than one person asking to speak in the roving mike. That way, there >> would be multiple people being vocal about their support. They could >> each mention a different aspect of the order. Isn't "Eliminating >> or transferring to other suitable institutions the Federal Documents >> Depository and the non-Michigan Genealogy collection" somewhat akin >> to "book burning"? Are not books relating to the first thirteen >> colonies essential to history research on the formation of the >> United States? Isn't the role of New York in sending people to >> Michigan important to our state history? Many points could be made. >> I think a call to the Royal Oak newspaper or police department or >> high school might elicit the date of the Town Hall Meeting but I >> know it is scheduled for this week. Obviously, they don't want many >> people to show up. Call or email Lt Gov. John Cherry's office to >> find out. The more the merrier! >> >> FYI: There were only 12 people in the auditorium at 5:52 p.m., 26 >> people at 6:06 p.m. They didn't start until 6:22 and at a max there >> were 35 people including about 7 Wayne Univ. administrators. All >> Wayne staff were urged by email to attend. 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