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    1. Re: [SACKETT-L] RE: Is this a sacket list anymore
    2. Cindy Owens
    3. Please keep the Memories messages coming, I love them. If you don't feel likewise use your delete key, that's what it's for. Cindy

    06/03/2003 08:26:55
    1. Re: [SACKETT-L] RE: Is this a sacket list anymore
    2. Pauline
    3. I haven't found anything posted for a long time that would help me in my Sackett research but I still get the messages and I do enjoy the "tales". I myself am not from that area and don't have any ancestors that I know of that were there but it still makes good reading. Keep it up. If someone doesn't like it they can delete it. I do a lot of them that doesn't appear to be of interest to me but the "tales" are interesting to read. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Thurmon E. King" <thurmonking@juno.com> To: <SACKETT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 12:26 PM Subject: Re: [SACKETT-L] RE: Is this a sacket list anymore > During the years I served as pastor in small churches in NV, CA, and WA; > I was always bothered when someone left the church because of something I > (or someone in our church) did or said. So, it bothers me to think that > someone has left the SACKETT-L because of my "Tales from my childhood." > > Although I cannot respond to the one who asked this question, I feel that > I should offer an explaination. Due to the fact that my Mother was Grace > Mabel SACKETT (1910-1986) I believe that each time I mention my Mother in > my postings, I am mentioning a SACKETT. > > After a few of my early postings of my "tales" I asked Nancy if I was off > subject by posting them. Her response was that "you are SACKETT and this > is the SACKETT-L." > > My motivation for posting my "tales" is to give those in our younger > generations an insight into what it was like to grow up in the 1930s in > rural Oklahoma. With that in mind; I have tried to be selective in my > postings. And I have limited my postings to 1 per week ... With the > exception of replying to responses to something I posted. I can only wish > that I had available some of the childhood memories of the children of > Reuben Sackett and Mercy Finney, or those of Simon Sackett and Isabel > Pearce. > > Just to see if I have been taking up too much of the SACKETT-L message > traffic; I checked the Threaded Archives and found that since the 1st of > March the messages relating to my "tales" have been 42 messages out of > 247 messages posted. > March 13 of 117 > April 18 of 71 > May 11 of 59 > > In this matter I will bow to the wishes of the members of the SACKETT-L > > One point I would take exception to is the statement that I "gather" > information. > > I like to believe that there is a difference between "gathering" > information and compiling information. And I like to believe that I am > compiling information about SACKETTs and SACKETT descendants. > > thurmon > > > ==== SACKETT Mailing List ==== > RootsWeb blocks HTML formatting in email messages. Be sure to set your > email software to text only before posting a message to the list. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > >

    06/03/2003 07:13:17
    1. [SACKETT-L] Childhood Memories in the 1800s
    2. Thurmon E. King
    3. Last week Maxine Chapin sent me copies of handwritten pages from: Bronson, Charles C. (1805-1886); "The History of Tallmadge, Ohio; in 10 handwritten volumes. The information for the Sackett family is from Vol 2. In his research Mr Bronson corresponded with 1515-Ann Filer Sackett concerning her memories of life in the early years of Tallmadge, OH and received the following response. Enjoy, Thurmon ========================== Seville, Medina Co., O. May 12th 1862 Mr. C. C. Bronson, Cor. Sec. T.H.S. Sir Yours was duly recd; you ask me for early recolections. It has been so long since I have had frequent intercourse with the friends of my childhood, or any that were conversant with them, that most of my early life, seems like a pleasant dream, long since passed away, For it was one of the first lessons I was taught, was to record 111 an unpleasant scene in the Sand. And blessed be the memory of my first teachers, the remembrance of them brings back to my mind very many dear associations, that had been so long hidden, by a succession of new scenes, and new places, that they were almost forgotten. My first recollections of Tallmadge was the brush heaps, close to our door, where I used to listen for the merry bell, of the old Dun Cow, which came night and morning, from the woods to fill my porringer with milk. the first school I attended, was taught by my sister, Lodemia, (now Mrs. Loomis of Wadsworth CCB,) in Dr. A. C. Wrights log office or shop. there were two incidents, connected with this school that I remember, one was going to sleep, and being sent out to wake up, with Charles Whittlesey, who had fallen into the same delimma. We repaired the play house, which had been erected, by the larger schollars, with great care and skill, in the corner of the rail fence; having one forked post to support the roof, which was covered with bark. It was furnished with equal taste; having moss for beds and pillows, moss carpets, helves filled with broken crockery, and make believe cups and saucers, of acorns and thier shells; indeed the whold looked as inviting and grand to me, as any richly furnished mansion, I have since entered, but Charles, now "col. Charles Whittlesey" not withstanding all my cries and entreaties; would "Samson: like try his strength upon the post, which caused a tremendous crash, that brought the teacher and schollars to the door, and un to our seats in "double quick" to give our account. The other incident was meeting one of Master Bruin's family, when returning from school, with other children, not far from where Daniel Beach used to live. (Now the residence of James Chamberlin, 1877 CCB) Although there was no attack, by either party and of course no harm done, the way we "Skedaddled," left its impressions, and afterwards it tended to similar motives, when we neared the same spot. My first Sabbath associations are rather mixed with the idea of bears, of long walks through the woods, with a father's guiding hand, and abundance of wild flowers, which I have ever since, been passionately fond of, which my Father strict and Puritanical, as he would now be called; permitted me to gather on the way. The alarm of war, and soldiers returning, as I had two brothers in the service; are all in my rembrance. 112 I do not think, I was a very regular attendant, on Sabbath worship, untill they met in the Academy that was burned. The first Sabbath School efforts, I reccollect more distinctly, and perhaps is the only thing that is worth of any record. There were a few Mothers, that used to meet together to pray and work for missionaries. I cannot remember when these meetins commenced, but I do recollect that one evening, when my Mother came home from one of these meetings; she asked sister Miranda and myself "if we would like to go to Sabbath School, and learn verses from the Bible and hymns to repeat;" She said: "Mrs. Wright would be our teacher." That evening was the first time, I ever remember of hearing of "Robert Raikes," or of Sabbath Schools. It was a novelty to me, child as I was, I entered into to it with spirit, and for 40 years have been greatly interested, and a lover of S. S. I continued a schollar untill 1828; when I took the position of teacher, the schollars were Sarah Camp, now Mrs. emory of Philadelphia, Rosanna Whittlesey, the late Mrs. Foot of the Syrian Mission, Eliza Blakelee, teacher in Baton Rouge, Louisania, Laura Clark, since Mrs. douglassl, and Laura Haines whose father lived at the foot of Coal Hill. Thery were very dear to me then , and I now look forward, to the time, when our acquaintance will be renewed, in the in the Spirit land, not as teacher and pupil, but as ransomed sinners to sepnd an Eternal Sabbath, with other dear ones singing the song of redeeming love. I have written simple incidents, that occurred to my mind after the reception of your letter. And I am willing to submit to the correction of those who may remember dates more acurately than I can. Respectfully Yours, Ann F. Russell.

    06/03/2003 05:50:00
    1. Re: [SACKETT-L] RE: Is this a sacket list anymore
    2. Thurmon E. King
    3. During the years I served as pastor in small churches in NV, CA, and WA; I was always bothered when someone left the church because of something I (or someone in our church) did or said. So, it bothers me to think that someone has left the SACKETT-L because of my "Tales from my childhood." Although I cannot respond to the one who asked this question, I feel that I should offer an explaination. Due to the fact that my Mother was Grace Mabel SACKETT (1910-1986) I believe that each time I mention my Mother in my postings, I am mentioning a SACKETT. After a few of my early postings of my "tales" I asked Nancy if I was off subject by posting them. Her response was that "you are SACKETT and this is the SACKETT-L." My motivation for posting my "tales" is to give those in our younger generations an insight into what it was like to grow up in the 1930s in rural Oklahoma. With that in mind; I have tried to be selective in my postings. And I have limited my postings to 1 per week ... With the exception of replying to responses to something I posted. I can only wish that I had available some of the childhood memories of the children of Reuben Sackett and Mercy Finney, or those of Simon Sackett and Isabel Pearce. Just to see if I have been taking up too much of the SACKETT-L message traffic; I checked the Threaded Archives and found that since the 1st of March the messages relating to my "tales" have been 42 messages out of 247 messages posted. March 13 of 117 April 18 of 71 May 11 of 59 In this matter I will bow to the wishes of the members of the SACKETT-L One point I would take exception to is the statement that I "gather" information. I like to believe that there is a difference between "gathering" information and compiling information. And I like to believe that I am compiling information about SACKETTs and SACKETT descendants. thurmon

    06/03/2003 05:26:55
    1. [SACKETT-L] Is this a sacket list anymore
    2. Wilma Haynes
    3. Keep 'em coming - makes genealogy interesting- Wilma

    06/03/2003 02:54:31
    1. Fw: [SACKETT-L] RE: Is this a sacket list anymore
    2. Mary Petrie
    3. I've enjoyed everything that has come on the list. I love memories (proper spelling) and hope they continue. That's the beauty of the delete button, if you don't want to read anything like that. Maybe others have Sackett memories also. Thanks, Thurmon and Nancy. Mary Lou ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nancy CLUFF Siders" <siders@cableone.net> To: <SACKETT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 7:20 AM Subject: [SACKETT-L] RE: Is this a sacket list anymore > I just unsubscribbed from the Sackett list. The reason being, it seems to > be a Thurmon memory lane list! I have to tell you I really don't care to be > e-mailed his memorys, nor does it have anything to do with Sackett > genealogy. I think it is a misuse of the list. > I know Thurmon, does "gather" information and post it, which I am greatful > for, but if he wants to post his memorys, it should be done somewhere else. > > ============================ > > Yes, SACKETT-L is alive and well. The Sackett Family Association's > Coordinating Committee is working actively in the background to set up a > means of preserving what SACKETT-L has built to this day. In doing this > and with the conversion of the administrative software at my work place, I > have not been as active as I perhaps should have been as Admin to this list. > As you mentioned, Thurmon does a lot in gathering information and posting > it. He locates the ancestors for many new subscribers. He's built > fantastic resources on the web for Sackett researchers that we're working to > preserve. Thurmon helps me as Admin to keep the list active. He answers > many if not all of the queries. Problem email addresses turn up with > regular postings. This helps me. If you noticed, he never sends his Tales > of Childhood if the list is busy. > > It's regretful that you unsubscribed from SACKETT-L. I hope you decide to > rejoin sometime in the future. I have kept your identity anonymous with > this posting to the list so that you may feel comfortable in rejoining us. > TSFA has some pretty exciting times ahead of it and I hope you will be > interested in it's future! You are the first to express objections to > Thurmon's postings of his Tales of Childhood. Personally, I would be > EXTREMELY ENTHUSIASTIC if I could run across a journal of any of my > ancestor's memories. For the future generations, it may be via the > Internet's archives. Now if more subscribers started sending their > memories, I'd have to step in. I recently asked him to tell us more about > his SACKETT relatives, encouraging more of the SACKETT theme in his > postings. > > Again, I hope you decide to resubscribe. > > Later...Nancy > Nancy Cluff Siders > List Admin > CLUFF-L, COUNTRYMAN-L, LETSON-L, MCKAY-ELKENNY-L, SACKETT-L, SIDERS-L > > LIFE: Live. Love. Learn. Leave a legacy. ~Dr. Stephen R. Covey > > > > > > ==== SACKETT Mailing List ==== > To Subscribe to the digest, SACKETT-D, address your email to: > sackett-d-request@rootsweb.com and type: SUBSCRIBE. Remember to > unsubscribe yourself from sackett-l or you will get multiple copies! > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

    06/03/2003 02:31:09
    1. [SACKETT-L] RE: Is this a sacket list anymore
    2. Nancy CLUFF Siders
    3. -----Original Message----- From: xxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 6:41 AM To: SACKETT-admin@rootsweb.com Subject: Is this a sacket list anymore I just unsubscribbed from the Sackett list. The reason being, it seems to be a Thurmon memory lane list! I have to tell you I really don't care to be e-mailed his memorys, nor does it have anything to do with Sackett genealogy. I think it is a misuse of the list. I know Thurmon, does "gather" information and post it, which I am greatful for, but if he wants to post his memorys, it should be done somewhere else. ============================ Yes, SACKETT-L is alive and well. The Sackett Family Association's Coordinating Committee is working actively in the background to set up a means of preserving what SACKETT-L has built to this day. In doing this and with the conversion of the administrative software at my work place, I have not been as active as I perhaps should have been as Admin to this list. As you mentioned, Thurmon does a lot in gathering information and posting it. He locates the ancestors for many new subscribers. He's built fantastic resources on the web for Sackett researchers that we're working to preserve. Thurmon helps me as Admin to keep the list active. He answers many if not all of the queries. Problem email addresses turn up with regular postings. This helps me. If you noticed, he never sends his Tales of Childhood if the list is busy. It's regretful that you unsubscribed from SACKETT-L. I hope you decide to rejoin sometime in the future. I have kept your identity anonymous with this posting to the list so that you may feel comfortable in rejoining us. TSFA has some pretty exciting times ahead of it and I hope you will be interested in it's future! You are the first to express objections to Thurmon's postings of his Tales of Childhood. Personally, I would be EXTREMELY ENTHUSIASTIC if I could run across a journal of any of my ancestor's memories. For the future generations, it may be via the Internet's archives. Now if more subscribers started sending their memories, I'd have to step in. I recently asked him to tell us more about his SACKETT relatives, encouraging more of the SACKETT theme in his postings. Again, I hope you decide to resubscribe. Later...Nancy Nancy Cluff Siders List Admin CLUFF-L, COUNTRYMAN-L, LETSON-L, MCKAY-ELKENNY-L, SACKETT-L, SIDERS-L LIFE: Live. Love. Learn. Leave a legacy. ~Dr. Stephen R. Covey

    06/03/2003 02:20:58
    1. [SACKETT-L] FW: NY Gen. and Biog. Soc. & WNYGS Joint Conference
    2. Nancy CLUFF Siders
    3. Hi! I received this as a member of WNYGS. I'm forwarding it on to my lists I admin who have ancestors in NY. I would LOVE to be able to attend this event but don't know whether I can swing it or not. Maybe you can! :) Let me know if you do!! Later...Nancy Nancy Cluff Siders List Admin CLUFF-L, COUNTRYMAN-L, LETSON-L, MCKAY-ELKENNY-L, SACKETT-L, SIDERS-L LIFE: Live. Love. Learn. Leave a legacy. ~Dr. Stephen R. Covey -----Original Message----- From: Nancy Archdekin [mailto:archde.omaha@att.net] Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 8:28 PM To: archde.omaha@att.net Subject: NY Gen. and Biog. Soc. & WNYGS Joint Conference THE NEW YORK GENEALOGICAL AND BIOGRAPHICAL SOCIETY and THE WESTERN NEW YORK GENEALOGICAL SOCIETY invite you to FIND YOUR FAMILY IN NEW YORK FRIDAY & SATURDAY, SEPTEMBER 26 & 27, 2003 Join Us at THE HYATT REGENCY BUFFALO FOR A TWO-DAY CONFERENCE FOR NEW YORK RESEARCHERS This joint conference will concentrate on the complexities of researching in New York State and on those unique factors which influenced its settlement. Some lectures will be of statewide interest, other will focus on western New York and our neighbors in Ontario. There will also be several presentations of a more general nature that will interest genealogists who do not have New York roots. For additional information, including online registration, please visit our website at http://www.nygbs.org/ed/programs.html or contact NYGBS Director of Education 122 E 58th St. New York, NY 10022-1939 education@nygbs.org (212) 755-8532 or contact the WNYGS for information at: JPZintz@aol.com This event will be held at the Hyatt Regency Buffalo Event rate: $119 per night single/double $131.00 triple occupancy $143.00 quadruple occupancy Rate includes breakfast. Please contact hotel directly at: (716) 856-1234, fax (716) 852-6157 Charges: Find Your Family in New York Friday & Saturday, September 26 & 27, 2003 TWO DAYS ---------------------- $135.00 **BEFORE AUG 1 -------------- $120.00 ONE DAY ------------------------- $75.00 LUNCHEON FRIDAY ---------- $20.00 LUNCHEON SATURDAY ----- $20.00 BANQUET FRIDAY ------------ $35.00 Schedule of Lectures You may attend either A or B per session. Pre-registration for lectures is not necessary. Friday, September 26 8:30 (A) Karen Livsey - Holland Land Papers: Going Beyond Land Transactions - Discover what research can be done in the papers of the FHLC beyond finding a land transaction. Learn what else is available and how to find it. (B) Cynthia Van Ness, MLS - Special Collections at Buffalo/Erie County Public Library - The Central Library is one of the premier genealogical destinations in Western New York, with a collection begun a century ago. This lecture is a brief introduction to what is available: censuses, church records, cemetery records, local histories, genealogies, maps, facilities, and more. 10:00 (A) Sharon Carmack, CG, FUGA - The Silent Woman: Bringing a Name to Life - Tracking women's lives is difficult no matter what the time period. This lecture, based on Sharon's book, A Genealogist's Guide to Discovering Your Female Ancestors, will feature sources created by and about women and will instruct researchers on how to breathe life into their female ancestors by using women's social histories in conjunction with primary genealogical sources. (B) Harry Macy, FASG, FGBS - Researching Colonial New York Families in the 21st Century - New York's colonial records have become much more accessible, due to the growth of archives, microfilm collections, and electronic media. Mr. Macy will review these expanded resources and also highlight the more important books and articles published in recent years. This lecture is intended for researchers with some experience in colonial New York research, but it will include a brief review of the basic sources and techniques as well. 11:30 (A) Karen Livsey - Sources for Researching in Chautauqua County - Ms. Livsey will review some of the repositories within the county and what records are contained therein: both the standard and a few surprises. (B) Anita Lustenberger, CG - Using DNA in Your Genealogical Research - DNA testing can pick up where the paper trail ends. It is not a substitute for traditional research but is a useful new tool. If the studies are constructed correctly, it can test hypotheses, confirm lineages, and suggest where the genealogist should focus future research. 12:45 Lunch - John W. Percy - The Erie Canal from Lockport to Buffalo: From Its Earliest Days to the Present - This slide program tells of some of the personalities who were instrumental in creating the Erie Canal in the early 19th century and of their contributions. It focuses on one of the most challenging sections of the canal, the last portion to open, from Lockport to Buffalo. Photos, maps, and drawings illustrate construction challenges, routing, as well as canal operation, enlargements, and modern changes. Many photos are taken at the same locations as much as a century apart. Viewers will experience a vicarious trip from Lockport to Buffalo during the mid-18th century. 2:15 (A) Roger Joslyn, CG, FGBS, FASG - Finding Your Ancestors in Upstate New York - This presentation will focus on New York genealogical source records, their location, content, and use, with particular emphasis on the nineteenth century. Research examples will be discussed and special attention given to the uniqueness of certain records, such as probate petitions, pre-1880 vital records, state censuses, and Civil War lists, all with the intention of quieting the myth that New York is a genealogical graveyard. (B) Kathie Orr, UE - Ontario Research - What Records are Available and How to Find Them - Have you found a census record, marriage or death record and it says your ancestor was born in Canada, Upper Canada, Canada West or "the Canadas"? The United States/Canada border was not the barrier to immigration it is today. Our ancestors moved freely back and forth. This lecture describes the sources and repositories for researching your Ontario ancestors. Particular emphasis will be placed on the records held by the Archives of Ontario and National Archives of Canada. 3:45 (A) Gordon Remington, FUGA, FASG - Yankees and Yorkers: New England Migration through Upstate NewYork - This lecture will discuss the several waves of New England migration through Upstate New York. Patterns of settlement will be discussed as well as New England cultural influence on New York and how it affects genealogical research. (B) Glenn Atwell, MA - Finding Your Ancestors in Europe - Explore avenues to identify where your immigrant ancestors came from and ways of obtaining information from the "Old Country." 7:00 Banquet Sharon Carmack, CG - Love Letters, Diaries, & Autobiographies: Let's Leave 'em Somethin' to Talk About - This lecture will inspire and suggest to all levels of researchers how to painlessly leave an account of their own lives, making it interesting and readable for their descendants. Saturday, September 27 8:30 (A) Roger Joslyn, CG, FGBS, FASG - Vital Records: Today's Research Possibilities and Tomorrow's Improved Access and Preservation - New York has long has been considered a black hole when it comes to tracking people much before the twentieth century. Researchers often blame the state's lateness in establishing centralized vital records, and rumors of destruction of records abound. But the useful possibilities of New York's vital records cannot be overlooked. This presentation shows how best to utilize those birth, marriage, and death records created under the centralization law of 1880, how to seek out earlier vital records, such as those kept in the mid-1800s, and what the future holds for preservation and access of more records. (B) Leslie Corn, MA, FGBS - Genealogy & the Internet Part I: Credible Clues from the Incredible Internet: Combining World Wide Web and Repository Research to Solve Genealogical Mysteries: - Using case studies from the 19th, 20th, and 21st centuries, this presentation shows how to use a blend of Internet, archive, and library research to advance successful and well-documented family research. Topics include using search engines to best advantage, including Boolean, proximity, and frequency searches, using the Internet to prepare for repository research, advanced methodology for manipulating data in digitized indexes and text, how to use a website's search boxes to go beyond a simple name search, how to trace the history of a property with online city directories, how to do national research for ancestors and living relatives when localities aren't known. 10:00 (A) Kathie Orr, UE - The United Empire Loyalists and Their Records - The United Empire Loyalists who fled, escaped, or removed themselves (depending on your view of the conflict) to the remaining British North American colonies after the Revolutionary War lead to the creation of the Province of Ontario. They left a rich treasure trove of documents. The sources are many and varied and include such resources as loyalist lists, land records, church records, court records, records of the Heir & Devisee Commissions and the Upper Canada Sundries. Also covered in the discussion is how to locate and access these records in various archives and local repositories. (B) Leslie Corn, MA, FGBS - Genealogy and the Internet Part II: A 19th Century Case Study from Cyberspace: Strategies for Finding and Using Reliable Historical and Genealogical Data on the Internet - This presentation, using only Internet resources, demonstrates in-depth research done online for one intriguing 19th-century man whose life wasn't revealed in the expected places, such as in an obituary, probate, or biographical sources. Instead, his life unfolded online in full-text and other sources. Having disappeared into the mists of history, he was discovered quite unexpectedly to have played a prominent part in mid-19th-century history. This presentation is driven by visuals that demonstrate research techniques and off-the-beaten-path URLs for doing historical and genealogical research on the Internet. 11:30 (A) Sharon Carmack, CG - Before You Publish: What Every Genealogist Needs to Know - Are you accidentally infringing someone else's copyright by copying or quoting too much from one source? Do you need permission to reprint that obituary or family photograph? Is that illustration or clip art you downloaded from the Internet really in the public domain and free for you to use however you want? How do you get permission to reprint something that is protected by copyright? These questions and more will be answered. This lecture is essential to any genealogist who plans to write and publish a family history. (B) Gordon Remington, FUGA, FASG - A Rich Legacy: New York State Probate Records - This lecture will discuss the history and organization of probate records in New York State, including how to access them at the county, state, and national level. Particular attention will be paid to the post 1830 probate petition. 12:45 Lunch Harry Macy, FASG, FGBS - Looking Back at 150 Years of New York Genealogy - It has been over 150 years the first genealogies of New York families appeared in print, and exactly 134 years since the founding of our state's first genealogical society - The NYG&B. Mr. Macy will recall those early days and the many changes that have brought us to where we are today. You'll hear about some of the major players and a few of the interesting accomplishments - from the outstanding to the ridiculous - that mark the history of genealogy in New York State. 2:15 (A) Anita Lustenberger, CG - Land Records: a Goldmine of Information - Land records are overlooked by genealogists who do not realize how these records anchor an ancestor in time and place. Land records can prove ancestry and family relationships, identify wives, establish age estimates and death dates, and provide other unexpected data. (B) Cynthia Van Ness, MLS - What Is and Isn't Online for Buffalo Research? - "Roots: The Buffalo & Erie County Genealogy Forum" was launched in December, 1993, making it one of the first-ever genealogy sites in cyberspace. Find out how to make use of this comprehensive genealogy resource, which is part of a larger Buffalo history research website, when you get back home to your computer. 3:45 (A) Glen Atwell, MA - Using Catholic Church Records Effectively - Whether in Latin, English, a foreign language, or some combination thereof, Catholic Church records can prove to be an excellent resource for filling out your family tree. (B) Lauren Maehrlein, MA - HeritageQuest Online's Remote Access: Tricks & Techniques for Successful Searching - Although the HQO database holds a fortune in information, accessing it is not always straightforward. This lecture will help to guide you beyond the basic searches to find the information you seek. Meet our Speakers Glenn R.P. Atwell, MA - is a retired high school history teacher and has been a professional genealogist for 30 years, specializing in Roman Catholic families in Buffalo and Erie County. He created the genealogical department of the Amherst Museum, was founding vice president of the Western New York Genealogical Society and was the first editor of the WNYGS Journal, to which he continues to contribute articles. He has also published several books on local history and genealogy and has taught genealogy in local adult education classes. Sharon DeBartolo Carmack, CG, FUGA - specializes in consulting, writing, and editing narrative family histories. She is the author of fourteen books and hundreds of articles and columns. is the editor of Betterway Genealogy Books, a consulting editor for Newbury Street Press (the publishing imprint of the New England Historic Genealogical Society), a contract advisor for the National Writers Union, and a contributing editor for Family Tree Magazine. Ms. Carmack also writes columns for Reunions Magazine, the Federation of Genealogical Societies' Forum, and the Association of Professional Genealogists Quarterly. She is a frequent lecturer at local, regional, and national genealogical conferences and is the past editor of Speak! and the Association of Professional Genealogists Quarterly. Leslie Corn, MA, FGBS - is a professional genealogist who uses a blend of repository and Internet research to serve attorneys, investigators, heir search firms, realtors, and private clients. An active author and speaker at workshops and on-air, she is a member of the NYG&B's Library Committee, Education & Publication Committee, and the Subcommittee on Collection Development. She chaired the NYG&B's Genealogy and the Internet workshop. She is a graduate of the National Institute on Genealogical Research at the National Archives in Washington, D.C. and serves as Trustee of the Alumni Association. Roger Joslyn, CG, FASG, FGBS, FUGA - is a professional genealogist in New York, a past president of the Association of Professional Genealogists, a founding member and vice president of the Genealogical Speakers Guild, and current president of the American Society of Genealogists. He has taught courses in genealogy, lectured widely in the U.S. and Canada, and has published articles in major genealogical journals, several of which he indexes. He edited, compiled, and/or authored several books. Mr. Joslyn serves on the NYG&B's Education and Publication, Library, and Collection Development committees, and the New York State Archives Advisory Committee. Karen Livsey - is the Librarian/Archivist for the Fenton History Center in Jamestown, Chautauqua County, and Town Historian for Ellicott, N.Y. She has compiled two volumes of Western New York Land Transactions Extracted from the Archives of the Holland Land Company covering the years 1804-1835. Anita Lustenberger, CG - is a professional genealogist specializing in the Hudson Valley. She is also a certified genetic counselor and once taught geography. She is a trustee of The New York Genealogical and Biographical Society and The New England Historic Genealogical Society and is the NYG&B Librarian. One of her current projects is co-authoring a book (with Roger Joslyn) on early (pre-1790) New York taxpayers. Harry Macy, Jr., FASG, FGBS - is a professional genealogist specializing in colonial New York and 19th century New York City and Long Island. He has been Editor of The New York Genealogical and Biographical Record since 1987, and an Editor of The NYG&B Newsletter since its founding in 1990. He has written many articles for these and other publications, and has spoken at numerous genealogical meetings and conferences. Lauren Maehrlein, MA - is the Director of Education at The New York Genealogical and Biographical Society, a member of its Education & Publication Committee, and co-editor of the NYG&B Newsletter. A frequent lecturer on Beginning Genealogy, before joining the NYG&B staff Ms. Maehrlein taught an adult school genealogy course, was a volunteer research assistant at the Emerson, N.J., FHL, and worked several years as a professional researcher. Kathie Orr, UE - is a lecturer, teacher, and researcher with a particular interest in early Ontario and Loyalist records. She is a trustee and past president of Toronto Branch of United Empire Loyalists' Association of Canada and a founding director of APOLROD (Association for the Preservation of Ontario Land Registry Office Documents). John W. Percy, EdM - has been Town Historian of Tonawanda, N.Y. for many years He has published six books about local history, beginning with Pioneer Suburb, a History of Kenmore, New York. His latest book, co-authored with Graham Millar, is one of Arcadia's Images of America series titled Kenmore, New York. Mr. Percy holds two degrees from the University at Buffalo. He taught history in the Tonawanda Public Schools and was adjunct associate professor of history at Canisius College. He is active with the Buffalo & Erie County and the Tonawanda-Kenmore Historical Societies. He currently teaches local history to adults. Gordon Remington, FUGA, FASG - a native of Rochester, has been a professional genealogist in Salt Lake City since 1979. He attended the University of Rochester and holds a B.A. in History from the University of Utah. A national and international lecturer and a widely published author, his two most recent books on New York probate records and genealogical sources in New York towns, villages, and cities were published in 2002. Cynthia Van Ness, MLS - is librarian of the Humanities and Social Sciences Department, Buffalo and Erie County Public Library, webmaster, and author. She manages "Roots: The Buffalo and Erie County Genealogy Forum," one of the oldest genealogy sites in all cyberspace. She is also the author of Victorian Buffalo (Western New York Wares, c. 1999). Ms. Van Ness is a frequent speaker on Buffalo resources, women in history, and on-line genealogy. ----------------------------------- Nancy Archdekin Omaha, Nebraska E-mail address archde.omaha@att.net

    06/03/2003 12:40:24
    1. [SACKETT-L] Re: Martha Ellen Sackett
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Sackett-Davis Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/ChEBAIB/217.1.1 Message Board Post: I don't know where she was born or married but I do know they lived in or around Winchester Indiana she is buried there in Fountain Park Cemetery.

    06/02/2003 02:20:19
    1. [SACKETT-L] Re: Martha Ellen Sackett
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/ChEBAIB/217.1 Message Board Post: Lori: Do you have any information as to where she was born? Where she was married? Or where they lived after their marriage? Thurmon

    06/02/2003 09:36:48
    1. [SACKETT-L] Martha Ellen Sackett
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Sackett-Davis Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/ChEBAIB/217 Message Board Post: I am looking for any information on Martha she was born Sept.2,1841 and she married James Alexander Davis on Feb.15,1863. Would anyone know who her parents were and her siblings.

    06/02/2003 04:32:38
    1. [SACKETT-L] SACKETT_Stephen_L_1945-1988.JPG
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: SACKETT Classification: Cemetery Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/ChEBAIB/216 Message Board Post: SACKETT_Stephen_L_1945-1988.JPG I photographed this gravestone in the Moore Cemetery, Arlington, Tarrant Co., Texas. Feel free to use this picture for your records. This is one of the 46,710 cemetery photos free at http://teafor2.com

    06/01/2003 06:55:17
    1. Re: [SACKETT-L] Tales from my childhood
    2. Cindy Owens
    3. I just thought it was a Freudian slip. :>) Cindy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Thurmon E. King" <thurmonking@juno.com> To: <SACKETT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2003 12:26 AM Subject: Re: [SACKETT-L] Tales from my childhood > Patty: > > I guess that making a goof now and then [most of the time] helps give an > indication as to whether or not anyone is reading my tales. (:^) So far > two have let me know about "irritate". > > Thurmon > > > ==== SACKETT Mailing List ==== > To Subscribe to the digest, SACKETT-D, address your email to: > sackett-d-request@rootsweb.com and type: SUBSCRIBE. Remember to > unsubscribe yourself from sackett-l or you will get multiple copies! > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

    06/01/2003 03:32:46
    1. RE: [SACKETT-L] Tales from my childhood
    2. Nancy CLUFF Siders
    3. Thurmon, I too wanted you to know the "farms around Roswell [are still] irritated" but others beat me to it first! ;) Nothing's changed in good old Roswell. They are still farming along the Pecos and growing cotton as well as melons (Yum Yum!), chili peppers (Yum, Yum YUM!), and much more! Bill can hardly wait until the farm markets open in a few weeks. Probably the biggest change in NM would be instead of dirt roads, we have four lane highways but we still have the Spring dust storms! Same old, same old! ;) We're VERY fortunate you survived your childhood, Thurmon!!! Tell us more about visiting your SACKETT relatives. Where did they live...? Later...Nancy Nancy Cluff Siders List Admin LIFE: Live. Love. Learn. Leave a legacy. ~Dr. Stephen R. Covey -----Original Message----- From: Thurmon E. King [mailto:thurmonking@juno.com] Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2003 10:26 PM To: SACKETT-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SACKETT-L] Tales from my childhood Patty: I guess that making a goof now and then [most of the time] helps give an indication as to whether or not anyone is reading my tales. (:^) So far two have let me know about "irritate". Thurmon ==== SACKETT Mailing List ==== To Subscribe to the digest, SACKETT-D, address your email to: sackett-d-request@rootsweb.com and type: SUBSCRIBE. Remember to unsubscribe yourself from sackett-l or you will get multiple copies! ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

    06/01/2003 02:57:51
    1. Re: [SACKETT-L] Tales from my childhood
    2. pbohler
    3. Hi Thurman, Just writing to tell you what great stories you have. So glad you are putting them in print. I also want to "irrigate" you about the irritated Rosewell farms. Laugh Laugh Patty B ----- Original Message ----- From: "Thurmon E. King" <thurmonking@juno.com> To: <SACKETT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2003 7:52 PM Subject: [SACKETT-L] Tales from my childhood > Kept out of school to Work in the Cotton Harvest > > As the cotton harvest season approached in 1938, Dad quit his job with > the Batsons and bought a 1929 Dodge Super Six sedan. We took Mother [who > was pregnant with Elysse], my sister Queechy, and brother Quindel to Mt > Pleasant, Texas to stay with Mother's family. While we were in Mt > Pleasant I met my Sackett grandparents and some cousins from Mother's > side of the family for the first time that I remember. > > Dad then took Uncle Glenn, Donal and me out into western Texas, and > eastern New Mexico picking cotton. We worked near Vernon, TX., > Childress, TX., Lubbock, TX., Roswell, NM., and Artesia, NM. Donal and I > were held out of school to go on the trip. Although I didn't know it at > the time, the plan was to work our way to Yuma, Arizona, where two of > Mother's sisters lived. > > As we headed west from Mt. Pleasant, the first night out Donal decided > that we would sleep in a two wheeled trailer that was parked near the > car. We bedded down with our feet toward the tongue (which was down > hill) and went to sleep. During the night we were awakened by the > whistle of a steam locomotive. When we looked up, the light of the > engine seemed to be coming at us. We scrambled up the trailer bed toward > the tailgate of the trailer. This overbalanced it to the rear. The rear > of the trailer tipped down and threw us head first against the tailgate, > as the train went screaming by. > > For part of the time there were two other men traveling with us and > sharing in the travel expenses. Dad also had them along because farmers > were more likely to hire a larger group of pickers than they were to hire > Dad, a teen ager and his two sons. While the other men were with us > Donal and I were assigned the middle position in the front and the back > seats. > > While we were putting gas in the car at one of the gas stations, I asked > the attendant where the rest room was. He asked me what I meant. I told > him I that I needed to know where the toilet was. He told me where the > toilet was and then asked me why I called it a rest room, he'd never > thought of a toilet as being a place where anyone would go to rest. > > At Vernon, TX we worked in a field near Pease River. There were two > younger men who had a Model A Ford. One would try to hold the car from > moving by bracing himself and leaning against the front fender and > headlight and holding the bumper. The other one would put the car in > gear and let out the clutch and see if the one holding onto the bumper > could hold the car and keep it from moving. Several times I thought the > car was going to go over the bank into the river, not to mention the > times that I thought the one holding the car was going to get run over. > > In Childress we worked on a farm that used terracing and contour farming > for soil conservation. It seemed odd to me, to have the rows of cotton > following the contour of the hills. There was one day that I was the > envy of the men who were traveling with us. I was picking cotton with > the boss's daughter. I think she was working with me because I was > working closer to her speed and I enjoyed working with her because I was > lonesome for Mother. > > While we were there Dad got into a disagreement with the owner of a store > in town. In those days many of the stores would buy products in bulk > quantities then divide it up into smaller lots. Dad had doubts about one > of the bags having a full measure, so he checked it on one of the dial > scales and it checked out right. Still not satisfied he took it over to > the meat counter and used the certified scale there. The bag weighted > light. After the disagreement that followed, Dad was told that he could > take his business elsewhere. > > I don't remember whether it was at Childress or near Lubbock that Dad and > the men traveling with us got into a heated argument while Dad was > cooking supper. When it was all over and they had decided to part ways > and the other men left. Donal mentioned to Dad about how worried he was > that they would have been able to whip Dad and Uncle Glenn. Dad said > that he was not worried because he was cooking and had a skillet of hot > grease in his hand at the time they were arguing. > > The area around Lubbock was fascinating to me because it was so flat and > almost treeless. Lubbock is located on the plains of the Texas > panhandle; the area is known as the caprock and it was quite different > from the hills where we lived. The cotton plants grow only a foot or so > in height and after a killing frost had hit; we were able to strip the > stalks by placing our hands on each side of the stalk and by lacing our > fingers and pulling up leaving a bare stalk. > > While we were at Lubbock I experienced my first sand storm which made for > some unpleasant work in the fields. It was this sand storm that > ultimately led Dad to abandon the plan to go to Yuma, AZ. Sand got into > the clutch of the car and caused the clutch to slip when we were climbing > a hill.. > > We went from Lubbock to Roswell, New Mexico. The first place we crossed > the border into New Mexico was a surprise. We went from a paved road in > Texas to a dirt road in New Mexico. Dad turned around and went back into > Texas and found a better road. > > The farms around Roswell were irritated, so the cotton was much taller. > Also, the farmer had us pick the cotton from the bowls instead of pulling > the bowls with the cotton in them. Picking paid more but it was harder > work and harder on the fingers because of the sharp points on the tips of > the bowl. It was here that I saw my first artesian well and my first > real mountain. The mountain was 10,000 foot Capitan Peak about 50 miles > to the west of Roswell. I think that from that time on I wanted to go to > where there were mountains. Donal says that while we were in Roswell > someone had talked Dad out of trying to make the trip over the mountains > in the "old Dodge" because of the problem of the clutch slipping. So, > from Roswell we went to Artesia, NM. > > We were in Artesia when my younges sister, Elysse, was born October 22, > 1938. And when Dad received the news we headed back home. The first > night out Dad stopped alongside the road near Hobbs, NM. It was a cold > night so Dad used a kerosene lantern to heat the inside of the car. It > was so crowded that during the night Donal and Uncle Glenn got out and > took the mattresses from the top of the car and slept between them > leaving the car to Dad and me. In the morning Dad discovered that Donal > and Glenn had put the mattress down in a bed of sand burrs. And they had > slept with their heads about six inches from the edge of the pavement. > > We went to Marietta, OK first to leave Uncle Glenn and then we went on to > Mt. Pleasant, TX to get Mother and see my new sister. > > Thurmon > > > ==== SACKETT Mailing List ==== > RootsWeb blocks HTML formatting in email messages. 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    05/31/2003 04:40:25
    1. Re: [SACKETT-L] Tales from my childhood
    2. Thurmon E. King
    3. Patty: I guess that making a goof now and then [most of the time] helps give an indication as to whether or not anyone is reading my tales. (:^) So far two have let me know about "irritate". Thurmon

    05/31/2003 03:26:28
    1. [SACKETT-L] Tales from my childhood
    2. Thurmon E. King
    3. Kept out of school to Work in the Cotton Harvest As the cotton harvest season approached in 1938, Dad quit his job with the Batsons and bought a 1929 Dodge Super Six sedan. We took Mother [who was pregnant with Elysse], my sister Queechy, and brother Quindel to Mt Pleasant, Texas to stay with Mother's family. While we were in Mt Pleasant I met my Sackett grandparents and some cousins from Mother's side of the family for the first time that I remember. Dad then took Uncle Glenn, Donal and me out into western Texas, and eastern New Mexico picking cotton. We worked near Vernon, TX., Childress, TX., Lubbock, TX., Roswell, NM., and Artesia, NM. Donal and I were held out of school to go on the trip. Although I didn't know it at the time, the plan was to work our way to Yuma, Arizona, where two of Mother's sisters lived. As we headed west from Mt. Pleasant, the first night out Donal decided that we would sleep in a two wheeled trailer that was parked near the car. We bedded down with our feet toward the tongue (which was down hill) and went to sleep. During the night we were awakened by the whistle of a steam locomotive. When we looked up, the light of the engine seemed to be coming at us. We scrambled up the trailer bed toward the tailgate of the trailer. This overbalanced it to the rear. The rear of the trailer tipped down and threw us head first against the tailgate, as the train went screaming by. For part of the time there were two other men traveling with us and sharing in the travel expenses. Dad also had them along because farmers were more likely to hire a larger group of pickers than they were to hire Dad, a teen ager and his two sons. While the other men were with us Donal and I were assigned the middle position in the front and the back seats. While we were putting gas in the car at one of the gas stations, I asked the attendant where the rest room was. He asked me what I meant. I told him I that I needed to know where the toilet was. He told me where the toilet was and then asked me why I called it a rest room, he'd never thought of a toilet as being a place where anyone would go to rest. At Vernon, TX we worked in a field near Pease River. There were two younger men who had a Model A Ford. One would try to hold the car from moving by bracing himself and leaning against the front fender and headlight and holding the bumper. The other one would put the car in gear and let out the clutch and see if the one holding onto the bumper could hold the car and keep it from moving. Several times I thought the car was going to go over the bank into the river, not to mention the times that I thought the one holding the car was going to get run over. In Childress we worked on a farm that used terracing and contour farming for soil conservation. It seemed odd to me, to have the rows of cotton following the contour of the hills. There was one day that I was the envy of the men who were traveling with us. I was picking cotton with the boss's daughter. I think she was working with me because I was working closer to her speed and I enjoyed working with her because I was lonesome for Mother. While we were there Dad got into a disagreement with the owner of a store in town. In those days many of the stores would buy products in bulk quantities then divide it up into smaller lots. Dad had doubts about one of the bags having a full measure, so he checked it on one of the dial scales and it checked out right. Still not satisfied he took it over to the meat counter and used the certified scale there. The bag weighted light. After the disagreement that followed, Dad was told that he could take his business elsewhere. I don't remember whether it was at Childress or near Lubbock that Dad and the men traveling with us got into a heated argument while Dad was cooking supper. When it was all over and they had decided to part ways and the other men left. Donal mentioned to Dad about how worried he was that they would have been able to whip Dad and Uncle Glenn. Dad said that he was not worried because he was cooking and had a skillet of hot grease in his hand at the time they were arguing. The area around Lubbock was fascinating to me because it was so flat and almost treeless. Lubbock is located on the plains of the Texas panhandle; the area is known as the caprock and it was quite different from the hills where we lived. The cotton plants grow only a foot or so in height and after a killing frost had hit; we were able to strip the stalks by placing our hands on each side of the stalk and by lacing our fingers and pulling up leaving a bare stalk. While we were at Lubbock I experienced my first sand storm which made for some unpleasant work in the fields. It was this sand storm that ultimately led Dad to abandon the plan to go to Yuma, AZ. Sand got into the clutch of the car and caused the clutch to slip when we were climbing a hill.. We went from Lubbock to Roswell, New Mexico. The first place we crossed the border into New Mexico was a surprise. We went from a paved road in Texas to a dirt road in New Mexico. Dad turned around and went back into Texas and found a better road. The farms around Roswell were irritated, so the cotton was much taller. Also, the farmer had us pick the cotton from the bowls instead of pulling the bowls with the cotton in them. Picking paid more but it was harder work and harder on the fingers because of the sharp points on the tips of the bowl. It was here that I saw my first artesian well and my first real mountain. The mountain was 10,000 foot Capitan Peak about 50 miles to the west of Roswell. I think that from that time on I wanted to go to where there were mountains. Donal says that while we were in Roswell someone had talked Dad out of trying to make the trip over the mountains in the "old Dodge" because of the problem of the clutch slipping. So, from Roswell we went to Artesia, NM. We were in Artesia when my younges sister, Elysse, was born October 22, 1938. And when Dad received the news we headed back home. The first night out Dad stopped alongside the road near Hobbs, NM. It was a cold night so Dad used a kerosene lantern to heat the inside of the car. It was so crowded that during the night Donal and Uncle Glenn got out and took the mattresses from the top of the car and slept between them leaving the car to Dad and me. In the morning Dad discovered that Donal and Glenn had put the mattress down in a bed of sand burrs. And they had slept with their heads about six inches from the edge of the pavement. We went to Marietta, OK first to leave Uncle Glenn and then we went on to Mt. Pleasant, TX to get Mother and see my new sister. Thurmon

    05/31/2003 11:52:45
    1. [SACKETT-L] Rolin Sackett family
    2. Ted Mudge
    3. The following transcriptions are from 2 photocopied pages from the National Archives Civil War Mother's pension file for John F. Sacket, who served as a Private in PA infantry, Co. E, 111st regt., from 11/22/61 to 1/20/63. I added a few commas. As usual, I have no doubt that the formatting will not survive the email journey. I the subscriber, resident of Mead Township, Crawford Co. Pennsylvania, on oath say I am the mother of Jno. F. Sacket, who died March 4th 1863, from disease contracted in the Army, he living but about five weeks after his return from the same. That while he was in the Army, he sent some money whenever he was paid and had when arriving about ninety dollars of which he gave sd Pamelia Sacket, his said mother, about sixty dollars. And I always depended upon him more than the others, as ??? an unfortunate family. Charles Rolin, 33 years, Leonard M. (31) years, Eliza D (27) years, the father Rolin Sacket having died the 22nd day Feb. 1863. {signed} Pamelia Sacket We the subscribers, residents of Crawford County hereby certify that we are well acquainted with the parties above named and the facts set forth in ????. Also the two above mentioned children, Leonard M. and Eliza D. are “non compos mentis” not being able to assist but have to be maintained by others. Also Rolin Sacket, the father & husband, having died the 22nd day of February AD 1863. {signed} George McFadden E.B.R. Sacket Crawford County Personally appeared before me the above named Pamelia Sacket, E.B.R. Sacket & ?????? McFadden and same made oath that the above certificates are correct and true to the best of their knowledge and belief. This 14th day of Novembr AD 1863. {signed} ?.?. Chase, Pro. ?C. And the other page: State of Pennsylvania County of Crawford On this 11th day of June 1864 before me, prothonotary & Clerk of Common Pleas in and for said County, personally appeared E.B.R. Sackett & A. Wright who, on being duly sworn according to Law, say they are near neighbors of Pamelia Sacket and are well acquainted with her, and also her son John F. Sacket, who died upon the 4th day of March AD 1863. Witnesses state that Pamelia Sacket has no husband living, he having died upon 22nd day of Feb. AD 1863. And that her said son left no widow or minor children or child. Also they are well acquainted with her circumstances and of the family and know that she has her interest in twenty acres of land very poor at best and not any personal property of any value, the house furniture and farm not worth more than $150.00 dollars. That her said son when at home used to hire out by the month and give the money to the support of the family, his mother and two children who are now a charge to her of the ages of twenty five and thirty one, who are “non compos mentis”. Witnesses further state they have no interest in the prosecution of pension claim of Pamelia Sacket and that they reside in Mead Township. These 2 pages appear to: 1) Provide Rolin's date of death, 2) Provide John's date of death, 3) Indicate that Charles Rolin is one person, not two as previously suggested, 4) Provides credence to the parentage of John, Charles Rolin, Leonard M. & Eliza D., 5) Indicate the approximate ages of Charles Rolin, Leonard M. & Eliza D., and 6) Provides credence to the later institutionalization of Leonard M. & Eliza D. Thurmon -- Please give me attribution -- I didn't get this stuff for free.

    05/26/2003 02:29:25
    1. [SACKETT-L] Family of 831-John Sackett
    2. Thurmon E. King
    3. This week Mary Lou Sackett sent me some material from a search of some of the NEGHS records. Using that data along with Weygant and an entry in the 1850 census for Greenwich, Fairfiled Co., CT we have come up with a 2nd marriage and a greatly expanded family for 831-John Sackett: 1. John Sackett-831 was born about 1788. He died on 14 Feb 1864 in Greenwich, Fairfield Co., CT. He was buried in Second Congregational Church Cemetery Greenwich Fairfield Co., CT . of Greenwich, Conn. [Weygant] ----- Sackett, John [W. #831 ??] Year: 1840; State: CT; County: Fairfield; Township: Greenwich Roll: M704_21 Page: 109 Census: 110 211 011 000 0 - 020 001 000 000 0 ----- Year: 1850; State: CT; County: Fairfield; Township: Greenwich Roll: M432_38 Page: 194 63/73 Sackett, John 62 m CT [W #831 ??] [Sackett], Cornelia 41 CT Sackett, Oscar 18 m CT Sackett, Julia A. 16 f CT Sackett, Eleanor C. 14 f CT Sackett, Whitman 11 m CT Sackett, John 7 m CT Sackett, Reubenette 5 f CT Sackett, Charles 1 m CT ----- Sackett, John, d. Feb. 14, 1864, ae 79 yrs. 8 mos. and 21 days. Second Congregational Church Cemetery Greenwich Fairfield Co. CT John married (1-MRIN:2475) Mary Mead-831sp daughter of Whitman Mead and Rachel Mead (MRIN:2476) on 12 Jan 1809. Mary was born in Feb 1789. She died on 24 Aug 1824 in Greenwich, Fairfield Co., CT. She was buried in Second Congregational Church Cemetery Greenwich Fairfield Co., CT . Sackett, Mary, wife of John Sackett, d. Aug. 24, 1824, ae. 35 yrs, 6 mos and 10 days. Second Congregational Church Cemetery Greenwich Fairfield Co. Connecticut, US John and Mary had the following children: 2 F i. Henry L. Sackett-2224 was born on 24 Nov 1809. She died on 15 Sep 1895 in Greenwich, Fairfield Co., CT. She was buried in Second Congregational Church Cemetery Greenwich Fairfield Co., CT . Sackett, Henry L., b. Mch. 24, 1809 d. Sept 14, 1894. Second Congregational Church Cemetery Greenwich Fairfield Co. Connecticut 3 F ii. Rachel E. Sackett-2225 was born on 19 Dec 1811. She died on 18 Jul 1885. 4 M iii. Whitman M. Sackett-2226 was born on 2 Nov 1813 in Greenwich, Fairfield Co., CT. He died on 30 Sep 1835 in Greenwich, Fairfield Co., CT. He was buried in Second Congregational Church Cemetery Greenwich Fairfield Co., CT . Sackett, Whitman M., son of John and Mary Sackett, d. Sept. 30, 1835, ae. 31 yrs, 10 mos and 28 days. Second Congregational Church Cemetery Greenwich Fairfield Co., CT 5 F iv. Abigail Sackett-2227 was born on 4 Dec 1816. She died on 14 Jun 1882. Religion: 1831, Second Congr. Church Member, Greenwich, CT (Source: Church Records of Greenwich CT, "Electronic," NEHGS, 1831 Sackett, Abigail S., wife of Gilbert Lent, and dau. of John Second Congregational Church Member.) Abigail married (MRIN:6792) Gilbert Lent . Source: Church Records of Greenwich CT, Second Congregational Church 6 F v. Mary Ann Sackett-2228 was born on 8 May 1820. She died on 5 Mar 1900. 7 M vi. William H. Sackett-2229 was born on 18 Apr 1822. He died on 13 Feb 1903. 8 M vii. Thomas Sackett-2230 was born on 5 Aug 1824. John married (2-MRIN:6793) Cornelia Olmstead on 9 Jan 1829 in Greenwich, Fairfield Co., CT. Cornelia was born in 1809. She died on 11 Apr 1862. Death date from search on LDS website. John and Cornelia had the following children: 9 M viii. Oscar Sackett was born in 1832 in Greenwich, Fairfield Co., CT. Year: 1850; State: CT; County: Fairfield; Township: Greenwich Roll: M432_38 Page: 194 63/73 Sackett, Oscar 18 m CT 10 F ix. Julia A. Sackett was born in Mar 1834. She died on 25 Aug 1853 in Greenwich, Fairfield Co., CT. She was buried in Second Congregational Church Cemetery Greenwich Fairfield Co., CT . Sackett, Julia A., dau. of John and Cornelia Sackett, d. Aug. 25, 1853, ae. 19 yrs, 5 mos and 19 days. Second Congregational Church Cemetery Greenwich Fairfield Co., CT ------ Year: 1850; State: CT; County: Fairfield; Township: Greenwich Roll: M432_38 Page: 194 63/73 Sackett, Julia A. 16 f CT 11 F x. Eleanor C. Sackett was born on 28 Feb 1836 in Greenwich, Fairfield Co., CT. She died on 21 Feb 1866 in Bellport, Suffolk Co., CT. Year: 1850; State: CT; County: Fairfield; Township: Greenwich Roll: M432_38 Page: 194 63/73 Sackett, Eleanor C. 14 f CT ------- Birth and death dates from search on LDS website 12 M xi. Whitman Sackett was born in 1839 in Greenwich, Fairfield Co., CT. Year: 1850; State: CT; County: Fairfield; Township: Greenwich Roll: M432_38 Page: 194 63/73 Sackett, Whitman 11 m CT 13 F xii. Priscille Sackett was born in Sep 1840 in Greenwich, Fairfield Co., CT. She died on 24 Dec 1842 in Greenwich, Fairfield Co., CT. She was buried in Second Congregational Church Cemetery Greenwich Fairfield Co., CT . Sackett, Priscille, dau. of John and Cornelia Sackett, d. Dec. 24, 1842, ae. 2 yrs, 3 mos and 4 days. Second Congregational Church Cemetery Greenwich Fairfield Co., CT 14 M xiii. John Sackett was born in 1843 in Greenwich, Fairfield Co., CT. Year: 1850; State: CT; County: Fairfield; Township: Greenwich Roll: M432_38 Page: 194 63/73 Sackett, John 7 m CT 15 F xiv. Reubenette Sackett was born in 1845 in Greenwich, Fairfield Co., CT. Year: 1850; State: CT; County: Fairfield; Township: Greenwich Roll: M432_38 Page: 194 63/73 Sackett, Reubenette 5 f CT 16 M xv. Charles Sackett was born in 1849 in Greenwich, Fairfield Co., CT. Year: 1850; State: CT; County: Fairfield; Township: Greenwich Roll: M432_38 Page: 194 63/73 Sackett, Charles 1 m CT

    05/26/2003 06:59:14
    1. Re: [SACKETT-L] Free GEDCOM Protection Software
    2. Thurmon E. King
    3. Liesa: I downloaded the program and tested it out. It does what it says. It puts who, or what ever, as the source of the material in the GED. This would have been nice to have used when compiling my Sackett file from the GEDs that were sent in to be included. Every item in the GED would have been credited to the one who sent it in. So, it is a great tool for those who want to give proper credit for the material they use. On the other hand; it does not guarantee that one will be protected from unscrupulous individuals who do not want to give proper credit for the material. Why not? Newer versions of genealogy programs like FTW and PAF allow you to select a source and delete it. And the programs will remove the citation from every place it is found in the file. Thurmon On Fri, 23 May 2003 21:13:59 -0400 "Liesa Robarge" <lrobarge@charter.net> writes: > For those don't like to post their information out there this might > be a nice alternative. I have not tried it but it looks promising. > > http://www.progenysoftware.com/gedmark.html > > Liesa

    05/24/2003 04:05:55