I don't know the connection of the Mansfields to the Sacketts but I'll share what I know abt them. Maybe someone will see something that would connect them. Not even sure these are the same Mansfields, but here goes: Descendants of John Mansfield, Sir 1 John Mansfield, Sir b: ENG d: Jul 1601 England . +Elizabeth . 2 Elizabeth Mansfield b: ENG d: 1658 Boston, MA ..... +John Wilson b: Dec 1588 Windsor, Berkshire, Co. Berks, ENG m: Abt. 1617 Sudbury, Suffolk, England d: Aug 7, 1667 Boston, MA Father: William WILSON, Rev Mother: Isabell WOODHALL ..... 3 Edmund Wilson, Dr b: 1618 England d: Aug 7, 1657 London, England ......... +Unknown m: Abt. 1645 ......... 4 John Wilson, Jr b: Abt. 1650 ......... 4 Bridget Wilson d: Barbados ............. +Nicholas Prideaux m: Bef. 1667 England d: Barbados ..... 3 John Wilson b: Sep 1621 London, Middlesex Co., ENG d: Aug 23, 1691 Medfield, Norfolk Co., MA ......... +Sarah Hooker b: 1629 Little Baddow, Essex Co., ENG m: 1647 d: Aug 20, 1725 Braintree, Norfolk Co., MA Father: Thomas HOOKER, Rev Mother: Susanna GARBRANDE ......... 4 John Wilson b: Jul 16, 1649 ......... 4 Sarah Wilson b: 1651 Dorchester, Sufflok Co., MA ............. +Josiah Torrey b: 1650 Weymouth, Norfolk Co., MA m: May 5, 1680 Medfiled, Norfolk Co., MA d: Oct 30, 1732 Mansfield, Tolland Co., CT ......... 4 Thomas Wilson b: Nov 12, 1652 d: Bet. 1652 - 1662 ......... 4 Elizabeth Wilson b: 1653 d: Bet. 1654 - 1656 ......... 4 Elizabeth Wilson b: 1656 ......... 4 John Wilson b: 1660 ......... 4 Thomas Wilson b: Mar 2, 1661/62 ......... 4 Susanna Wilson b: Dec 1664 d: Jul 8, 1748 ............. +Grindal Rawson b: Jan 23, 1658/59 d: Feb 6, 1714/15 Father: Edward RAWSON ..... 3 Elizabeth Wilson b: Abt. 1630 England d: 1651 Boston, MA ......... +Ezekiel Rogers, Rev. m: 1650 Boston, MA ......... 4 Infant Rogers b: 1651 Boston, MA d: 1651 Boston, MA ..... 3 Mary Wilson b: Sep 12, 1633 Boston, MA d: Sep 13, 1713 Boston, MA ......... +Samuel Danford, Rev b: Sep 1, 1626 Framlingham, Suffolk, ENG m: Nov 5, 1651 Boston, MA d: Nov 19, 1674 Billerica, Middlesex Co., MA Father: Nicholas DANFORD, Rev Mother: Elizabeth SYMMES ......... 4 William Danford b: 1652 MA d: Unknown ............. +Mary Unknown b: Abt. 1660 m: Abt. 1682 ......... 4 Samuel Danford b: Jan 14, 1652/53 Boston, MA d: Jun 1653 Boston, MA ......... 4 Mary Danford b: May 1654 d: Oct 1659 ......... 4 Elizabeth Danford b: Jul 1656 d: Oct 1659 ......... 4 Sarah Danford b: Oct 30, 1658 d: Oct 1659 ......... 4 John Danford, Rev b: Nov 8, 1660 Roxbury, MA ............. +Elizabeth ......... 4 Mary Danford b: Mar 13, 1662/63 MA d: Oct 17, 1734 MA ............. +Edward Bromfield m: Jun 4, 1683 MA d: Jun 2, 1734 MA ......... 4 Elizabeth Danford b: Feb 9, 1664/65 d: 1672 ......... 4 Samuel Danforth b: Dec 10, 1666 Roxbury, MA d: Nov 14, 1727 Taunton, MA ............. +Hannah Allen b: Sep 23, 1668 Boston, MA m: Oct 4, 1688 d: Dec 3, 1761 Boston, MA ......... 4 Sarah Danford b: Feb 21, 1669/70 ......... 4 Thomas Danford b: Apr 3, 1672 d: Apr 13, 1672 ......... 4 Elizabeth Danford b: Oct 16, 1673 d: Oct 18, 1673 ..... *2nd Husband of Mary Wilson: ......... +Joseph Rock m: 1674 Boston, MA d: 1683 Boston, MA . 2 John Mansfield d: Boston, Barnstable Co., MA . 2 Anne Mansfield ..... +Robert Keayne, Capt. . 2 Martha Mansfield Sources: Torrey's New England Marriages Prior to 1700, The Great Migration Begins: Immigrants to New England, 1620-33, Savage, James, Genealogical Dictionary of NE, Hooker, Edward, The Descendants of Rev. Thomas Hooker, (1909), (States s/o John Wilson & Elizabeth Mansfield, however their Elizabeths birthdate is recorded in Torrey as 1618.), History of Billerica, MA by Rev. Henry A. Hazen c1883

I don't have the info in front of me right now, but I know that Tinkham was Agnes's maiden name. Tom Smith ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nancy CLUFF Siders" <siders@cableone.net> To: <SACKETT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2003 10:47 AM Subject: RE: [SACKETT-L] New England Historical & Genealogical Register info > > Good point, Mary Lou! Since she's a witness, perhaps Gillian is repaying > her for caring for him in his old age or some such. The SACKETT's might > have been neighbors of the MANSFIELD's. I searched and did not find > MANSFIELD related in any way. As far as I could see, there is no other > "Agnes" who married a John SACKETT. Maybe she was married to a TINKHAM > before she married John SACKETT! If Thurmon could search his database for > given names of Agnes, someone might show. I looked at them one by one in an > appropriate date range. But it's in New Haven! Very interesting! It > intrigued me to take a look this AM when I should be working on TSFA and a > multitude of other things like the laundry. ;) > > Thanks...Nancy > > > Later...Nancy > Nancy Cluff Siders > List Admin > LIFE: Live. Love. Learn. Leave a legacy. ~Dr. Stephen R. Covey > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mary Lou Sackett [mailto:mlsackett@team-national.com] > Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 4:18 PM > To: SACKETT-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [SACKETT-L] New England Historical & Genealogical Register info > > > In the 1927 vol. 81 issue, pg. 128: Early Probate Records of New Haven. > "Mansfield, Gillian, deceased Dec. 8, 1669. Will made Jan. 12, 1669. > Bequesths to sons Joseph & Moses, to Mary, wife of Joseph, to Mercy, wife of > Moses, to Joseph's children, to Abigail & Mercy & Hannah, daughters of > Moses, and to Agnes, wife of John Sackett. Witnesses: James Bishop & Agnes > Sackett." > > Also on p.g 132: Sackett, John, Sr. Inventory taken Oct. 6, 1684, by John > Winston & John Alling, Jr. Liber 382:10:02 > > If Agnes Tinkham was the wife of John Sackett, Sr., then how does this > Agnes, wife of John Sackett fit in under this Gillian Mansfield's above > probate? Any ideas? > > > ==== SACKETT Mailing List ==== > If you haven't already, please send in your introduction to the list. > For examples, visit http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~sidersn/sackett > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go > to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > ==== SACKETT Mailing List ==== > GEN-NEWBIE-L: No question is too elementary and the atmosphere is relaxed & friendly. GEN-NEWBIE-D: This list is the digest mode for GEN-NEWBIE-L. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Tom, I would love to see primary sources for it. Is there a will perhaps...? Everything I have ever seen has been pure speculation. Thanks! Later...Nancy -----Original Message----- From: Tom Smith [mailto:tsmith26@comcast.net] Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2003 8:58 AM To: SACKETT-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SACKETT-L] New England Historical & Genealogical Register info I don't have the info in front of me right now, but I know that Tinkham was Agnes's maiden name. Tom Smith ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nancy CLUFF Siders" <siders@cableone.net> To: <SACKETT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2003 10:47 AM Subject: RE: [SACKETT-L] New England Historical & Genealogical Register info > > Good point, Mary Lou! Since she's a witness, perhaps Gillian is repaying > her for caring for him in his old age or some such. The SACKETT's might > have been neighbors of the MANSFIELD's. I searched and did not find > MANSFIELD related in any way. As far as I could see, there is no other > "Agnes" who married a John SACKETT. Maybe she was married to a TINKHAM > before she married John SACKETT! If Thurmon could search his database for > given names of Agnes, someone might show. I looked at them one by one in an > appropriate date range. But it's in New Haven! Very interesting! It > intrigued me to take a look this AM when I should be working on TSFA and a > multitude of other things like the laundry. ;) > > Thanks...Nancy > > > Later...Nancy > Nancy Cluff Siders > List Admin > LIFE: Live. Love. Learn. Leave a legacy. ~Dr. Stephen R. Covey > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mary Lou Sackett [mailto:mlsackett@team-national.com] > Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 4:18 PM > To: SACKETT-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [SACKETT-L] New England Historical & Genealogical Register info > > > In the 1927 vol. 81 issue, pg. 128: Early Probate Records of New Haven. > "Mansfield, Gillian, deceased Dec. 8, 1669. Will made Jan. 12, 1669. > Bequesths to sons Joseph & Moses, to Mary, wife of Joseph, to Mercy, wife of > Moses, to Joseph's children, to Abigail & Mercy & Hannah, daughters of > Moses, and to Agnes, wife of John Sackett. Witnesses: James Bishop & Agnes > Sackett." > > Also on p.g 132: Sackett, John, Sr. Inventory taken Oct. 6, 1684, by John > Winston & John Alling, Jr. Liber 382:10:02 > > If Agnes Tinkham was the wife of John Sackett, Sr., then how does this > Agnes, wife of John Sackett fit in under this Gillian Mansfield's above > probate? Any ideas? > > > ==== SACKETT Mailing List ==== > If you haven't already, please send in your introduction to the list. > For examples, visit http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~sidersn/sackett > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go > to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > ==== SACKETT Mailing List ==== > GEN-NEWBIE-L: No question is too elementary and the atmosphere is relaxed & friendly. GEN-NEWBIE-D: This list is the digest mode for GEN-NEWBIE-L. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > ==== SACKETT Mailing List ==== GEN-NEWBIE-L: No question is too elementary and the atmosphere is relaxed & friendly. GEN-NEWBIE-D: This list is the digest mode for GEN-NEWBIE-L. ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Nancy: On Chris Sackett's website under the New Haven Vital Records; the first item is: NHVR3; John Sacket and Agnes Tincome were married by the Governer the 20th of May 1652 [1J9w5 John Sackett of New Haven c1628-1684] Savage; Same date, spelling ‘Tinkham’ Weygant , p.19; Same date, spelling ‘Tinkham’; does not mention m by Governor Chris does have an awful lot of information on his website. (:>) Thurmon On Sat, 14 Jun 2003 09:43:40 -0600 "Nancy CLUFF Siders" <siders@cableone.net> writes: > > Tom, > > I would love to see primary sources for it. Is there a will > perhaps...? > Everything I have ever seen has been pure speculation. Thanks! > > Later...Nancy > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Tom Smith [mailto:tsmith26@comcast.net] > Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2003 8:58 AM > To: SACKETT-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [SACKETT-L] New England Historical & Genealogical > Register > info > > > I don't have the info in front of me right now, but I know that > Tinkham was > Agnes's maiden name. > Tom Smith > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Nancy CLUFF Siders" <siders@cableone.net> > To: <SACKETT-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2003 10:47 AM > Subject: RE: [SACKETT-L] New England Historical & Genealogical > Register info > > > > > > Good point, Mary Lou! Since she's a witness, perhaps Gillian is > repaying > > her for caring for him in his old age or some such. The SACKETT's > might > > have been neighbors of the MANSFIELD's. I searched and did not > find > > MANSFIELD related in any way. As far as I could see, there is no > other > > "Agnes" who married a John SACKETT. Maybe she was married to a > TINKHAM > > before she married John SACKETT! If Thurmon could search his > database for > > given names of Agnes, someone might show. I looked at them one by > one in > an > > appropriate date range. But it's in New Haven! Very interesting! > It > > intrigued me to take a look this AM when I should be working on > TSFA and a > > multitude of other things like the laundry. ;) > > > > Thanks...Nancy > > > > > > Later...Nancy > > Nancy Cluff Siders > > List Admin > > LIFE: Live. Love. Learn. Leave a legacy. ~Dr. Stephen R. Covey > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Mary Lou Sackett [mailto:mlsackett@team-national.com] > > Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 4:18 PM > > To: SACKETT-L@rootsweb.com > > Subject: [SACKETT-L] New England Historical & Genealogical > Register info > > > > > > In the 1927 vol. 81 issue, pg. 128: Early Probate Records of New > Haven. > > "Mansfield, Gillian, deceased Dec. 8, 1669. Will made Jan. 12, > 1669. > > Bequesths to sons Joseph & Moses, to Mary, wife of Joseph, to > Mercy, wife > of > > Moses, to Joseph's children, to Abigail & Mercy & Hannah, > daughters of > > Moses, and to Agnes, wife of John Sackett. Witnesses: James > Bishop & > Agnes > > Sackett." > > > > Also on p.g 132: Sackett, John, Sr. Inventory taken Oct. 6, 1684, > by John > > Winston & John Alling, Jr. Liber 382:10:02 > > > > If Agnes Tinkham was the wife of John Sackett, Sr., then how does > this > > Agnes, wife of John Sackett fit in under this Gillian Mansfield's > above > > probate? Any ideas? > > > > > > ==== SACKETT Mailing List ==== > > If you haven't already, please send in your introduction to the > list. > > For examples, visit > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~sidersn/sackett > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, > go > > to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > ==== SACKETT Mailing List ==== > > GEN-NEWBIE-L: No question is too elementary and the atmosphere is > relaxed > & friendly. GEN-NEWBIE-D: This list is the digest mode for > GEN-NEWBIE-L. > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > ==== SACKETT Mailing List ==== > GEN-NEWBIE-L: No question is too elementary and the atmosphere is > relaxed & > friendly. GEN-NEWBIE-D: This list is the digest mode for > GEN-NEWBIE-L. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, go > to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > ==== SACKETT Mailing List ==== > RootsWeb blocks attachments. So sharing photos is not possible > through > the list; send off-list individually. If you have a text file you > wish to share, save it as text and insert the text into your > message. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Good point, Mary Lou! Since she's a witness, perhaps Gillian is repaying her for caring for him in his old age or some such. The SACKETT's might have been neighbors of the MANSFIELD's. I searched and did not find MANSFIELD related in any way. As far as I could see, there is no other "Agnes" who married a John SACKETT. Maybe she was married to a TINKHAM before she married John SACKETT! If Thurmon could search his database for given names of Agnes, someone might show. I looked at them one by one in an appropriate date range. But it's in New Haven! Very interesting! It intrigued me to take a look this AM when I should be working on TSFA and a multitude of other things like the laundry. ;) Thanks...Nancy Later...Nancy Nancy Cluff Siders List Admin LIFE: Live. Love. Learn. Leave a legacy. ~Dr. Stephen R. Covey -----Original Message----- From: Mary Lou Sackett [mailto:mlsackett@team-national.com] Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 4:18 PM To: SACKETT-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [SACKETT-L] New England Historical & Genealogical Register info In the 1927 vol. 81 issue, pg. 128: Early Probate Records of New Haven. "Mansfield, Gillian, deceased Dec. 8, 1669. Will made Jan. 12, 1669. Bequesths to sons Joseph & Moses, to Mary, wife of Joseph, to Mercy, wife of Moses, to Joseph's children, to Abigail & Mercy & Hannah, daughters of Moses, and to Agnes, wife of John Sackett. Witnesses: James Bishop & Agnes Sackett." Also on p.g 132: Sackett, John, Sr. Inventory taken Oct. 6, 1684, by John Winston & John Alling, Jr. Liber 382:10:02 If Agnes Tinkham was the wife of John Sackett, Sr., then how does this Agnes, wife of John Sackett fit in under this Gillian Mansfield's above probate? Any ideas? ==== SACKETT Mailing List ==== If you haven't already, please send in your introduction to the list. For examples, visit http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~sidersn/sackett ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Vol. 81, pg. 418; (1927) Inscriptions at Canton, Conn. John D. Healy, b. Apr 7, 1823, d. Dec. 3, 1896. Cordelia L. Sackett, his wife, b. May 31, 1829 & d. July 27, 1898. [I believe this is the daughter of Solomon Sackett b. 1784 & Hulda Webster.] 1931; vol. 90, pg. 158 William Hannum of Northampton.... In his will dated 15 May 1677 and proved 23 Aug. 1677, he gave most of his property to his son John, but made bequests to his daughers Abigail Sacket, Mary Allen & Elizabeth Bushrod. (Savage's Genealogical Dictionary Vol. 2, p. 351) Children: i. John ii. Abigail b. 1640; bapt at Windor, Conn 22 Nov 1640; d. probably at Westfield 10 Oct 1690; m. 23 Nov. 1659 John Sacket of Northampton & Westfield, b. probably at Newtowne (now Cambridge), in 1632, d. probably at Westfield in 1719, son of Simon Sacket. iii. Joanna iv. Elizabeth v. Mary 1936; vol. 90; p. 104 >From the manuscript Records of the Green St. Congregational Church. Marriages by Rev. Wm. Jenks, D.D., LLD Solemnized in Boston, 1826-1865. Apr. 21, 1836 Mr. Charles Sackett and Miss Mary E. Davis, both of Boston. [I don't know who they are]

In the 1927 vol. 81 issue, pg. 128: Early Probate Records of New Haven. "Mansfield, Gillian, deceased Dec. 8, 1669. Will made Jan. 12, 1669. Bequesths to sons Joseph & Moses, to Mary, wife of Joseph, to Mercy, wife of Moses, to Joseph's children, to Abigail & Mercy & Hannah, daughters of Moses, and to Agnes, wife of John Sackett. Witnesses: James Bishop & Agnes Sackett." Also on p.g 132: Sackett, John, Sr. Inventory taken Oct. 6, 1684, by John Winston & John Alling, Jr. Liber 382:10:02 If Agnes Tinkham was the wife of John Sackett, Sr., then how does this Agnes, wife of John Sackett fit in under this Gillian Mansfield's above probate? Any ideas?

Chris & All: Trying to identify Capt William Pearce has led me into the land of confusion !! The Capt. William Pearce who located in Virginia and had a wife named Jone appears to be a different person from the one who was Master of the Lyon. (More below) As for the John Sacker, during a search of the SSDI a few days ago; I had noticed several individuals with the surname Sacker listed. Therefore, it would appear that this is a different surname. As for Capt. William Pearce, Master of the Lyon, there appears to be some confusion as to where he was from and where he lived. The source I gave the other day shows him as being from Bristol, England. However, I found a couple of websites which appear to use a common source which says: " The Lyon ... Of Captain William Peirce, her Master, more particulars are known. He had sailed to Plymouth in 1623 as Master of the Anne of London, bringing the last lot of passengers to the Pilgrim settlement. He was then a resident of Ratcliffe, parish of Stepney, London, and at that date was about thirty-one years old. He made a voyage to Salem in 1629 as Master of the Mayflower (not the Pilgrim ship) and thereafter he was in constant traffic in passengers and merchandise across the Atlantic. He took up his residence in Boston in 1632 and was admitted freeman May I4, 1634. His wife, Bridget, joined the church February 2, 1632/3; perhaps a second wife, as a William Peirce, mariner of Whitechapel, was licensed in 1615 to marry Margaret Gibbs. Whitechapel and Stepney are adjoining parishes. He became a Town and Colony official and was engaged In coastwise shipping thereafter. He compiled an Almanac for New England which was the second issue in 1639 from the Daye press at Cambridge. In 1641 he was killed by the Spaniards while on a voyage to the island of New Providence, Bahamas Group, whither he was taking passengers for settlement. " The information above indicates that Capt. William Pearce, Master of the Lyon, was a resident of Ratcliffe, parish of Stepney, London in 1623 and became a resident of Boston in 1632. This would seem to indicate that the Capt. William Pierce of the Virginia Colony was a different individual. Regards, Thurmon Another source states that the last voyage of Capt. Pearce, (as Master of the Lyon) began at Boston, Oct. 27, 1632 and ended in a shipwreck off Chesapeake Bay, Virginia, Nov. 2, 1632. Capt. Pierce safe but cargo and records lost. [Sources cited: Bradford, p. 244; Winthrop, p. 100]. This covers information that has been posted before but bears repeating in this discussion: Voyages of the Lyon: 1. From: Bristol - To: Salem, Mass.; Feb 1629/30 to May 1630. Returned to Bristol 2. From: Bristol - To: Boston, Mass.; Dec 1, 1630 to Feb. 5, 1631. Returned to London 3. From: London - To: Nantasket, Mass; Aug 23 1631 to Nov. 1631. Returned to London via Virginia Colony 4. From: London - To: Boston, Mass; June 22, 1632 to Sep. 16, 1632. Left Boston Oct. 27, 1632 and wrecked off Chesapeake Bay, Virginia Nov. 2, 1632. On Fri, 13 Jun 2003 10:07:02 +0100 "Chris Sackett" <chris@sackett.org.uk> writes: > Thurmon (& All), > > I think I have several pieces of information about William Pearce & > will > look further. One I remember was Hotten's 'Persons of Quality' - > probably > because I like the title! Here is a post which I have extracted from > the > archives. Note the reference to William's wife Jone. Note also the > ref. to a > John Sacker, a servant who arrived in Virginia in 1623 !!!??? > Comments??? > > Regards, > Chris > > > > SACKETT-L Archives > > From: "Chris Sackett" <sackett@guernsey.net> > Subject: [SACKETT-L] Persons of Quality > Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 13:33:51 +0100 > > > Dear Cousins, > > Obviously when doing Sackett family research one would be drawn to a > tome > with a title like "Persons of Quality". I found this at the NEHGS in > Boston. (I think this qualifies for the longest book title so far!) > > "The Original Lists of Persons of Quality; Emigrants; Religious > Exiles; > Political Rebels; Serving Men Sold for a Term of Years; Apprentices; > Children Stolen; Maidens Pressed; and others who went from Great > Britain to > the American Plantations 1600 - 1700. With their ages, the > localities where > they formerly lived in the Mother Country, the names of the ships in > which > they embarked, and other interesting particulars. From mss. > preserved in > the State Paper Department of Her Majesty's Public Record Office, > England. > Edited by John Camden Hotten. Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., > Baltimore > 1986." > > The book contains the following on our trusty sea captain, William > Pierce. > > p224 > "Musters of the Inhabitants in Virginia > > James Citty The Muster of Capt. William Pierce > Capt. William Pierce came in the Sea-venture > m's Jone Pierce his wife in the Blessinge > Servants > Thomas Smith aged 17 yeares in the Abigaile > Henery Bradford aged 35 yeres in the Abigaile > Ester Ederife a maid servant in the Jonathan > Angelo a Negro Woman in the Treasuror. > The rest of his servant's; Provisions, Armes, Munition &ct at > Mulberry > Iland." > > p240-1 > "Mulburie Iland. > The Muster of the Inhabitant's att Mulbury Iland taken the 25th of > January > 1624. > The Muster of Capt William Pierces servant's > Richard Attkins aged 24 came in the London Marchannt > Abigall his wife came in the Abigall > William Baker aged 20 came in the Abigall > Robert Aston 29 in the Treasuror > Hugh Wing 30 > Robert Lathom 20 > Richard Aldon 19 > Thomas Wood 35 > came in the George 1620 > Roger Ruce came in the Charles > Allexander Gill 20 in the Bony bess > Samuel Morris 20 in the Abigall > Thomas Rose 35 in the Jonathan > Robert Hedges aged 40 yeres in the > _____ > John Virgo came in the Treasuror > Susan his wife in the same Shipp > _____ > John Gatter came in the George 1620 > _____ > William Richardson came in the Edwine > _____ > Richard Fine came in the Neptune > _____ > John Nowell came in the Margrett & John > _____ > Richard Downes came in the Jonathan > _____ > John Cranich came in the Marygold > _____ > Percevall Wood came in the George > Ann his wife in the George > _____ > William Raymont came in the Neptune > _____ > William Bullock came in the Jonathan > _____ > Anthony Baram came in the Abigall > Ellizabeth his wife in the William & Thomas > _____ > Thomas Harwood came in the Margrett & John 1622 > Grace his wife in the George > Servant's > Thomas Read aged 65 yeres. > _____" > > _______________ > And, would anyone care to comment on the following entry?? > > p261 > "Robart Thrasher his Muster > Robart Thrasher age 22 in the Bona Noua 1620 > Roland Williames age 20 in the Jonathan 1623 > Servant > John Sacker age 20 in the Margret and John 1623 > _____" > > Regards, > Chris > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- > ---- > > This thread: > > [SACKETT-L] Persons of Quality by "Chris Sackett" > <sackett@guernsey.net> > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- > ---- > > > ==== SACKETT Mailing List ==== > RootsWeb blocks HTML formatting in email messages. 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Thurmon (& All), I think I have several pieces of information about William Pearce & will look further. One I remember was Hotten's 'Persons of Quality' - probably because I like the title! Here is a post which I have extracted from the archives. Note the reference to William's wife Jone. Note also the ref. to a John Sacker, a servant who arrived in Virginia in 1623 !!!??? Comments??? Regards, Chris SACKETT-L Archives From: "Chris Sackett" <sackett@guernsey.net> Subject: [SACKETT-L] Persons of Quality Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 13:33:51 +0100 Dear Cousins, Obviously when doing Sackett family research one would be drawn to a tome with a title like "Persons of Quality". I found this at the NEHGS in Boston. (I think this qualifies for the longest book title so far!) "The Original Lists of Persons of Quality; Emigrants; Religious Exiles; Political Rebels; Serving Men Sold for a Term of Years; Apprentices; Children Stolen; Maidens Pressed; and others who went from Great Britain to the American Plantations 1600 - 1700. With their ages, the localities where they formerly lived in the Mother Country, the names of the ships in which they embarked, and other interesting particulars. From mss. preserved in the State Paper Department of Her Majesty's Public Record Office, England. Edited by John Camden Hotten. Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., Baltimore 1986." The book contains the following on our trusty sea captain, William Pierce. p224 "Musters of the Inhabitants in Virginia James Citty The Muster of Capt. William Pierce Capt. William Pierce came in the Sea-venture m's Jone Pierce his wife in the Blessinge Servants Thomas Smith aged 17 yeares in the Abigaile Henery Bradford aged 35 yeres in the Abigaile Ester Ederife a maid servant in the Jonathan Angelo a Negro Woman in the Treasuror. The rest of his servant's; Provisions, Armes, Munition &ct at Mulberry Iland." p240-1 "Mulburie Iland. The Muster of the Inhabitant's att Mulbury Iland taken the 25th of January 1624. The Muster of Capt William Pierces servant's Richard Attkins aged 24 came in the London Marchannt Abigall his wife came in the Abigall William Baker aged 20 came in the Abigall Robert Aston 29 in the Treasuror Hugh Wing 30 Robert Lathom 20 Richard Aldon 19 Thomas Wood 35 came in the George 1620 Roger Ruce came in the Charles Allexander Gill 20 in the Bony bess Samuel Morris 20 in the Abigall Thomas Rose 35 in the Jonathan Robert Hedges aged 40 yeres in the _____ John Virgo came in the Treasuror Susan his wife in the same Shipp _____ John Gatter came in the George 1620 _____ William Richardson came in the Edwine _____ Richard Fine came in the Neptune _____ John Nowell came in the Margrett & John _____ Richard Downes came in the Jonathan _____ John Cranich came in the Marygold _____ Percevall Wood came in the George Ann his wife in the George _____ William Raymont came in the Neptune _____ William Bullock came in the Jonathan _____ Anthony Baram came in the Abigall Ellizabeth his wife in the William & Thomas _____ Thomas Harwood came in the Margrett & John 1622 Grace his wife in the George Servant's Thomas Read aged 65 yeres. _____" _______________ And, would anyone care to comment on the following entry?? p261 "Robart Thrasher his Muster Robart Thrasher age 22 in the Bona Noua 1620 Roland Williames age 20 in the Jonathan 1623 Servant John Sacker age 20 in the Margret and John 1623 _____" Regards, Chris ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- This thread: [SACKETT-L] Persons of Quality by "Chris Sackett" <sackett@guernsey.net> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----

Some additional thoughts concerning Capt. William Pearce. According to the information for him, he was born ca 1595 which would make him near the same age as Simon Sackett. Therefore, it would be doubtful that he could have been the father of Isabel Pearce wife of Simon. The information for the father of William Pearce shows only two children for him; Richard and William. So, we don't know whether or not Capt William Pearce had a sister named Isabel. And even if he did have a sister ... how did it happen that she met Simon Sackett from Thanet? We are still faced with the question as to how it came to be that Simon and Isabel were aboard a ship that departed from Bristol, England for the Massachusetts Bay Colony? Thurmon On Thu, 12 Jun 2003 20:15:38 -0700 "Thurmon E. King" <thurmonking@juno.com> writes: > A search for Capt. William Pearce on Altavista.com I came up with > http://aleph0.clarku.edu/~djoyce/gen/portsmouth/rr01/rr01_003.html > > "15. Capt. William Pearce. Born ca 1595 in Bristol, England.1 > William > died on 13 Jul 1641 in Providence, Bahamas.1 > > William resided in Bristol, England, Boston, Mass. and Providence, > Bahama > Island.1 > > Farmer has this: "William Peirse, the captain of the ship 'Lyon,' > wrote > his name Peirse; he was the author of the first almanack for 1639 > publislhed in North America. He was killed at Providence, > one of the Bahama Islands, in 1641. Savage ii. Winthrop Index. > Prince ii. > Annals 69, who erroneously regards him as a member of the Boston > Church, > says he was ancestor of Rev. > James Pierce, a well known writer and English divine, who died in > 1730."1 > > Copy of Order of Council when the troubles of Charles 1st. commenced > with > his Parliament. From the original books of the Privy Council: 1638. > "Ordered the twentieth [of April, 1638.] Order for the Desire to > passe to > New England, with passengers and provisions, upon certificate, etc.: > " > " Upon the humble petition of William Piers, master of the shippe > called > the Desire, that the Petitioner, with diverse others inhabiting in > New > England, did lately arryve in the Port of London, in the said shippe > being wholly built in New England, whither the said master doh1 nowe > desire to return in the same, and did therefore desire the leave of > the > board, according to his Majesties' late Proclamation, and to > transport > such Passengers and their necessary provisions of Howshold, as by > this certificate shall be gratified according to the Tenor of his > Magesties' former Proclamation. Theyr Lordships did this day give > Ieave > that the said master snd shippe should retorne > to New England, together with such passengers and theyr necessary > provisions as is desyred and their goods to passe as formelly. > Provided > that the said certificats of the Psssengers be first brought to the > Clarke of the Council attendant, to be by him allowed, and that they > doe > transport noe other passingers or Provisions but such as slrall be > allowed."-[Charles I. Vol. 15, 341.]" > > This site gives the father of William Pearce as Richard Pearce. > Capt. > William had a brother, Richard, who came to New England on the Lyon > and > died on 7 Oct 1666 in Portsmouth, RI. The brother has children > shown for > him. But Capt. William has no spouse or children shown for him. > > Thurmon

The copies of the following bios were sent to me by a friend who has this book. HISTORY OF THE CHIPPEWA VALLEY - GENEALOGY AND BIOGRAPY pg. 685-686: Freeman W. Sackett, publisher Phillips "times," Phillips, Price county, was born at Warren, Trumbull county, Ohio, November 5, 1847, and is a son of Alzera and Sarah (Harbaugh) Sackett. His paternal grandparents, Simmons' and Ede (Hayes) Sackett, sprang of old New England families. The latter was born at New Haven, Conn. His maternal grandfather, William Harbaugh, was of German descent, and his wife, Rachel (Beeson) Harbaugh, was born in Virginia. Mrs. Sarah Sackett was born near Akron, Ohio, and now resides at New Cassel, Wis., her husband having died at Waucousta, Fond du lac county, Wis., October 16, 1869, at the age of fifty-one years. He was born at Canfield, Ohio. Our subject was about four years old when the family removed to Waucousta, where he spent his boyhood upon his father's farm, and attended the district school in winters, until September 5, 1863, when he enlisted in Company A, Thirty-eight Wisconsin volunteers. The principal engagements in which he took part were the battles of the Wilderness, Cold Harbor, Hatch's Run, White House Grove, Welden Railroad, Mine Fort, Pegram's Farm, Fort Stedman and the siege of Petersburg and Richmond. He was also at Appomattox and the grand review at Washington. After receiving his discharge, July 12, 1865, he returned home. In 1867 he began to learn the printer's trade in the office of the Fond du Lac "Journal." Two years later he began the publication of the Weyauwega "Times." In 1876 he came here and started the Phillips "Times" in the first building completed in the town. He is also a contractor and builder. In 1879 he took an active interest in the organization of Price county. He held the office of county clerk, with the exception of one term, until 1891, and he has also held various minor offices. In 1876 he was a prominent candidate for the assembly at Weyauwega. He was formerly a republican, but since 1872 has supported the democratic party. Mr. Sackett married, January 1, 1874, Anna Meiklejohn, whose death occurred one year later, after giving birth to a son, William H. Mr. Sackett was again married, November 12, 1878, taking as his second wife Emma J. Hunt, who has borne him two sons, Frank A. and Homer P. Mr. Sackett is commander of the local G.A.R. post. He is also a prominent member of the orders of A.F. and A.M. and I.O.O.F., belonging to the Ashland Commandery and Centennial Encampment at Waupauca. pg. 914: George Elmer Sackett, publisher of the Fifield "Advocate," Fifield, Price County, was born at Waucousta, Fond du Lac county, Wis., June 12, 1861, and is a son of Aljera and Sarah A. Sackett. He attended the district school and Lawrence university, and at seventeen years of age came to Phillips, and learned the printer's trade in the office of the "Times." In 1883 he began the publication of the Fifield "Advocate," in which business he has since been employed. June 17, 1886, he led to the altar Miss Kate E., daughter of James E. and Mary A. Devens. Mrs. Sackett was born at Weyauwega, Wis. They have one child, Freeman D. Mr. Sackett is a democrat personally and editorially, and is the present clerk of the town. He is also a member of the orders of A.F. and A.M. and I.O.O.F. As a citizen and a gentleman he commands the respect and esteem of all, regardless of creeds, doctrines or opinions.

A search for Capt. William Pearce on Altavista.com I came up with http://aleph0.clarku.edu/~djoyce/gen/portsmouth/rr01/rr01_003.html "15. Capt. William Pearce. Born ca 1595 in Bristol, England.1 William died on 13 Jul 1641 in Providence, Bahamas.1 William resided in Bristol, England, Boston, Mass. and Providence, Bahama Island.1 Farmer has this: "William Peirse, the captain of the ship 'Lyon,' wrote his name Peirse; he was the author of the first almanack for 1639 publislhed in North America. He was killed at Providence, one of the Bahama Islands, in 1641. Savage ii. Winthrop Index. Prince ii. Annals 69, who erroneously regards him as a member of the Boston Church, says he was ancestor of Rev. James Pierce, a well known writer and English divine, who died in 1730."1 Copy of Order of Council when the troubles of Charles 1st. commenced with his Parliament. From the original books of the Privy Council: 1638. "Ordered the twentieth [of April, 1638.] Order for the Desire to passe to New England, with passengers and provisions, upon certificate, etc.: " " Upon the humble petition of William Piers, master of the shippe called the Desire, that the Petitioner, with diverse others inhabiting in New England, did lately arryve in the Port of London, in the said shippe being wholly built in New England, whither the said master doh1 nowe desire to return in the same, and did therefore desire the leave of the board, according to his Majesties' late Proclamation, and to transport such Passengers and their necessary provisions of Howshold, as by this certificate shall be gratified according to the Tenor of his Magesties' former Proclamation. Theyr Lordships did this day give Ieave that the said master snd shippe should retorne to New England, together with such passengers and theyr necessary provisions as is desyred and their goods to passe as formelly. Provided that the said certificats of the Psssengers be first brought to the Clarke of the Council attendant, to be by him allowed, and that they doe transport noe other passingers or Provisions but such as slrall be allowed."-[Charles I. Vol. 15, 341.]" This site gives the father of William Pearce as Richard Pearce. Capt. William had a brother, Richard, who came to New England on the Lyon and died on 7 Oct 1666 in Portsmouth, RI. The brother has children shown for him. But Capt. William has no spouse or children shown for him. Thurmon On Thu, 12 Jun 2003 18:29:23 -0400 Tom Smith <tsmith26@comcast.net> writes: > Cindy, I know there has been some speculation about Isabel Pearce > Sackett > being related in some way to the Captain of the Lyon. I have done > some > searching for the Pearce Family in Thanet around the time of Simon > and > Isabel's marriage but have come up empty. I did have some contact > from > someone with Pearce family there but much later(1800s) and wasn't > able to > make a connection. > Tom

Cindy, I know there has been some speculation about Isabel Pearce Sackett being related in some way to the Captain of the Lyon. I have done some searching for the Pearce Family in Thanet around the time of Simon and Isabel's marriage but have come up empty. I did have some contact from someone with Pearce family there but much later(1800s) and wasn't able to make a connection. Tom ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cindy Owens" <cindyto@adelphia.net> To: <SACKETT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 9:09 AM Subject: Re: [SACKETT-L] Simon and the Mayflower > Thurmon, that IS very interesting abt William Pearce. I wonder where we > would look to find further info on this man? He obviously lived in England, > so maybe this is a new research project for Chris. You know since he has > nothing else to do! lol! Cindy > > > > ==== SACKETT Mailing List ==== > RootsWeb blocks HTML formatting in email messages. Be sure to set your > email software to text only before posting a message to the list. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Darelene: All of this sounds great--I even have an idea for an addition, and I would like to do it! How about a section for "Book Review." I am an architectural historian/historian and keep up fairly well with what is new in the field. what do you think? Patty Sackett Chrisman On Thursday, June 12, 2003, at 04:48 PM, Darlene J Sackett wrote: > SO, I have been starting to think about the newsletter that I have > volunteered to put together (Mary Lou emailed me and said she was > really > busy and would prefer not to work on this project necessarily). I was > thinking of making it a quarterly event with the first issue covering > October thru December of this year. > > I was thinking of coming up with several categroies that would be in > each > newsletter so that people would know where to look for which thing. > Here > are some of my ideas: > ON THE FRONT PAGE > - A front page article on whatever we want it to be on. > - The names of all the board members and their positions > - A list of dates of upcoming events. > ON THE SECOND PAGE > - Board member bios. The reasoning behind this is that I think people > might be interested to know a little bit about who is steering the > association. We could also make this a biography section for > members if that is more interesting. Maybe with a picture so people > have > faces to go with names? > - A news section where we write an article about what has been > happening > since the last issue came out. For the first one it could be about the > Salt Lake City meeting and the starting of the group. > ON THE THIRD PAGE > - A section for geneology tips or somekind of information on a specific > geneaology research site. > - A section I was thinking of calling "A Sackett in History" where we > ask > a Sackett descendent who knows something about one of their ancestors > to write a little bio about him or her. This could also be the > section where we put our miscellaneous articles each issue if there is > no > offering on a Sackett in history. > ON THE FOURTH PAGE > - Some sort of joke or cartoon about geneology (I don't know of any > but > that one about you know you are a geneology buff if, but I'm sure > there's more out there. > - A Tales from my childhood section where we can continue some of > Thurmons works and ask for input from others. > - A Disclaimer. I was wondering if this was something we should > include. > You know the kind of thing where you say "the opinions stated in these > articles are not necessarily the opinions of the sackett family > association ...." > - A place where I put my name and email address (?) for those who have > comments, suggestions, articles, ideas, etc. > > What do you all think? > > > Darlene > > ________________________________________________________________ > The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! > Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! > Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! >

Thurmon, that IS very interesting abt William Pearce. I wonder where we would look to find further info on this man? He obviously lived in England, so maybe this is a new research project for Chris. You know since he has nothing else to do! lol! Cindy

Tom and all, There will be some announcements forthcoming about TSFA (The Sackett Family Association). We've gotten a little ahead of ourselves on another related subject but when we have that ironed out, we'll be making the announcement. Hang in here with us! :) Later...Nancy Nancy Cluff Siders List Admin CLUFF-L, COUNTRYMAN-L, LETSON-L, MCKAY-ELKENNY-L, SACKETT-L, SIDERS-L LIFE: Live. Love. Learn. Leave a legacy. ~Dr. Stephen R. Covey -----Original Message----- From: Tom Smith [mailto:tsmith26@comcast.net] Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 5:29 PM To: SACKETT-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [SACKETT-L] Simon and the Mayflower After being away for several days I came back to "Simon Sackett came over on the Mayflower!" While this is certainly interesting to say the least, I haven't seen any further comment on it. I didn't have any luck tracking down the St. Mary's in Thanet that was referenced. It seems implausible with what information we have on Simon, that he was on the Mayflower. I suppose he could have come over, liked what he saw and went back for Isabel and Junior:) No offense to anyone intended!!! On another subject, I haven't seen any further discussion regarding the "Sackett" Association. I had offered to do some query look-ups as a way to help out, New Haven being a hotbed of early Sackett activity and all. Just thought I'd inquire. Tom Smith ==== SACKETT Mailing List ==== ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To post a message, address it to:sackett-l@rootsweb.com To subscribe or unsubscribe, address it to: sackett-l-request@rootsweb.com (SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE in the body) ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Tom and All; After the post about Simon coming over on the Mayflower and my response to it; I did some searching for the history of the Mayflower and found a fairly complete listing of the different ships named Mayflower and records concerning some of the voyages at: http://www.alden.org/education/mayflowerhistory.htm "... But what has really muddled historians is the Mayflower of 1629 and 1630. Thomas Prence wrote in his journal in August 1629: "Thirty-five of our friends with their families arrived at Plymouth. They shipped at London in May, with the ships that came to Salem, which brings over many pious persons to begin the churches there. So that their being long kept back is now accomplished by Heaven with a double blessing.... The charge is reckoned on the several families, some fifty pounds, some forty, some thirty, as their numbers and expenses were, which our undertakers pay for gratis, besides giving them houses, preparing them grounds to plant on, and maintain them with corn, etc., above thirteen or fourteen months, before they have a harvest of their own production." James Sherley sent a letter with the new arrivals, dated March 25, 1629, which said in part: "Here are now many of yours and our friends from Leyden, coming over who though for the most part be but a weak company, yet herein is a good part of that end ordained, which was aimed at, and which hath been so strongly opposed, by some of our former Adventurers. But God hath His working in these things, which man cannot frustrate. With them we have also sent some servants in the ship called the Talbot that went hence lately; but these come in the Mayflower." And Captain John Smith wrote under the date 1629: "In this year a great company of people of good rank, zeal, means, and quality, have made a great stock, and with six good ships in the months of April and May they set sail from Thames for the Bay of Massachusetts, otherwise called Charles River; viz. the George Bonaventure of twenty pieces of ordnance, the Talbot nineteen, the Lions Whelp eight, the Mayflower fourteen, the Four Sisters fourteen, the Pilgrim four, with three hundred and fifty men, women and children." The master of the Mayflower was William Peirce. Roger Harman commanded the Four Sisters and William Wobridge the Pilgrim. (note the use of "Pilgrim" as a ship's name) In 1630 the Mayflower sailed from Southampton with the Whale. She was listed as "Mayflower of Yarmouth." William Peirce was by then master of the Lion. A Mayflower of Yarmouth, tonnage between 240 and 250, owner Thomas Howarth, is registered as sailing under letters of marque to the fishing grounds off Greenland on July 23, 1626, October 3, 1627, and June 29, 1631." What I find to be interesting in this is that William Peirce/Pearce was master of a ship named "Mayflower" on a voyage to New England in 1629 and then was master of the Lion/Lyon in 1630. When we take this along with some of the specualtion that Simon Sackett's wife Isabel Pearce was possibly a daughter of, or related to William Pierce, master of the Lyon. Hmmm. Thurmon On Wed, 11 Jun 2003 19:28:51 -0400 Tom Smith <tsmith26@comcast.net> writes: > After being away for several days I came back to "Simon Sackett came > over on the Mayflower!" While this is certainly interesting to say > the least, I haven't seen any further comment on it. I didn't have > any luck tracking down the St. Mary's in Thanet that was referenced. > > It seems implausible with what information we have on Simon, that he > was on the Mayflower. I suppose he could have come over, liked what > he saw and went back for Isabel and Junior:) No offense to anyone > intended!!! > On another subject, I haven't seen any further discussion regarding > the "Sackett" Association. I had offered to do some query look-ups > as a way to help out, New Haven being a hotbed of early Sackett > activity and all. Just thought I'd inquire. > Tom Smith > > > ==== SACKETT Mailing List ==== > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > To post a message, address it to:sackett-l@rootsweb.com > To subscribe or unsubscribe, address it to: > sackett-l-request@rootsweb.com (SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE in the > body) > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

After being away for several days I came back to "Simon Sackett came over on the Mayflower!" While this is certainly interesting to say the least, I haven't seen any further comment on it. I didn't have any luck tracking down the St. Mary's in Thanet that was referenced. It seems implausible with what information we have on Simon, that he was on the Mayflower. I suppose he could have come over, liked what he saw and went back for Isabel and Junior:) No offense to anyone intended!!! On another subject, I haven't seen any further discussion regarding the "Sackett" Association. I had offered to do some query look-ups as a way to help out, New Haven being a hotbed of early Sackett activity and all. Just thought I'd inquire. Tom Smith

The Minnesota Historical Society has online all the state's counties death certificates for those who died in MN since 1900? Anyway if you go to mnhs.org and look for the death certificate link, you then can type in Sackett in the surname box and pull up all the Sacketts who have died since 1900. (I am hazy on the earliest year) Information given online is first and last name, county in which died, date of death. Sometimes it will also give the mother's maiden name, maybe date of birth. To get a copy of the actual death certificate one can order from the MN Hist Soci for $8 or $11, depending on membership status, the copy. If the person died in Hennepin County then one has to contact Hennepin Co for the death certif. This service has been very helpful to me in my MN family name searches - in fact, really helpful! Dianne

Only by way of Laura Sacket b. 1816 who married Martin L. Chase and then moved to MN 1857sh - dying in 1896 in Blue Earth City. I have not focused on the Sacket lines in MN - trying to sort out the Chase's - but when I found the Fleck name I was quite moved. My grandmother in the 40s and 50s would talk about the Flecks in Ramy MN. I also found Fleck in Olmsted Co where most lived when first coming to MN. I do not recall hearing the Sacket name while growing up. First found it in my great-grandfather's Civil War pension file where he named his father and mother. Dianne Cobb -----Original Message----- From: HK2016@netscape.net [mailto:HK2016@netscape.net] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 3:36 PM To: SACKETT-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [SACKETT-L] Zaven Sacket, Edson Sacket, Lavina Fleck Dianne, You said you were looking at censuses of Olmsted County, Minnesota. Are you realated to Sackett's from Southeasten Minnesota? Karen "Cobb, Dianne" <Dianne.Cobb@FairfaxCounty.gov> wrote: >I received copies of obituaries today taken from the MEADVILLE EVENING >REPUBLICAN dated 27 Feb 1904 and from the CRAWFORD JOURNAL 3 March 1904 >that contain a surname I heard my grandmother, Grace (Chase) Ogg, >granddaughter of Martin L. Chase and Laura (Sackett) Chase speak often >of when I was a child. The surname is Fleck. > >"Mrs Edson S. Sackett died at her home in Blooming Valley Feb 26, at the >age of 80 years. She is survived by her husband, one son, W.E. Sackett, >of Saegertown, and two daughters, Mrs. Lavina Fleck, of Tryonville, and >Miss Agnes Sackett, residing at home. The funeral was held from the >Blooming Valley M.E. church at 11 a.m. Tuesday and the remains were laid >to rest in the cemetery there." > >Independent of this obit, while browsing Olmsted Co. MN censuses etc for >names that sound familiar from childhood memories I discovered Fleck >family(ies) moved to Olmsted County in the mid to latter part of the >19th century. > >So the Flecks' she spoke of weren't just farm people she knew, they were >related - oh, the questions I would love to ask her. > > > > >==== SACKETT Mailing List ==== >GEN-NEWBIE-L: No question is too elementary and the atmosphere is relaxed & friendly. GEN-NEWBIE-D: This list is the digest mode for GEN-NEWBIE-L. > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > __________________________________________________________________ McAfee VirusScan Online from the Netscape Network. Comprehensive protection for your entire computer. Get your free trial today! http://channels.netscape.com/ns/computing/mcafee/index.jsp?promo=393397 Get AOL Instant Messenger 5.1 free of charge. Download Now! http://aim.aol.com/aimnew/Aim/register.adp?promo=380455 ==== SACKETT Mailing List ==== If you haven't already, please send in your introduction to the list. For examples, visit http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~sidersn/sackett ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237