Snakes and out 22 cal. rifle Earlier I recounted my terror when I was age 7 and some men fired some shots which hit close enough to me that it "was too close for comfort." We moved from the house on Rose Ranch after they sold their sheep and we moved to a located on Rock Creek a few miles west of Marietta, OK. We lived there for a short time so I don't have very many memories of that place. Another reason for me having few memories of the place can be attributed to snakes. Rattle snakes, cottonmouth water moccasins, and copperheads. Yes that area was infested with them and Mother kept us close to the house. And after Mother stepped out of the house one morning and found a copperhead coiled up on the step ... She was more determined to keep us close at all times. And at her insistance, Dad bought a single shot 22 cal. rifle and taught her how to shoot it. She managed to kill some snakes and was very relieved when Dad got a job near Marietta and we moved to a house on the outskirts of Marietta. Through the years I learned to shoot the 22 rifle, even though I was so small that I had to place the stock under my arm in order to get the rifle into a position where I could see the sights to aim it.. Of course, I loved target shooting and used every opportunity to practice. But I was limited by Dad not having the money to buy as much ammunition as I would have liked. There always had to be some shells available for Mother to use and I had to share the others with my older brother. I remember one day when I found an old 22 shell in the yard. It was a 22 short which is a low power shell for use in a 22 pistol. The ammunition reccommended for the 22 rifle are 22 long and long rifle shells. Well, I ran and got the rifle and put the shell into the chamber and set up a tin can on top of the storm cellar. I then took a position about 20 feet away from the target ... Took aim and pulled the trigger. I then looked in amazement as I was able to see the bullet come out of the barrel of the rifle, skip twice on the ground and hit the tin can !! In 1941 Dad was working a few miles away and boarding near his work, Mother and her five children were living in a log cabin. One morning our dog woke us barking at the kitchen stove. There was a cottonmouth moccasin under the stove. My brother Donal got the rifle and shot the snake. Later in the summer Mother heard the chickens being excited and discovered that a cottonmouth was bothering them. She got the 22 and shot at it ... but missed. She called me and asked me to shoot it and I dispensed with it using one shot. Mother then said that she had forgot how to aim the rifle and I explained it to her. Her next shot hit the mark. One more incident involved me watching a neighbor take the rifle and "stick" a kitchen match into the ground so that it was standing upright. He then set up 10-20 feet away and took aim. When he pulled the trigger, the bullet passed close enough to the head of the match that it lit the match ! Well, the first opportunity I had after that ... I had to see if I could do it also. But the best I could do was to shoot the head off the match, or shoot off enough of the head that it wouldn't light. I was getting so upset at this that Mother took the rifle away from me for a time. Later in life I was recounting this to a friend and expressed the frustration I felt at shooting away the head of the match instead of being able to strike the match and make make it burn. To this he responded: "Hey, I'd feel lucky to be able to shoot away the head !!" I guess it's just a matter of perspective. Thurmon

On Monday, July 7, 2003, at 07:12 AM, JOfferdahl@aol.com wrote: > sackett-l@rootsweb.com I had no problem at all in reaching Nancy's SACKETT web page. It is beautifully done.. Gordon Sackett Adams: goradams@sbcglobal.net

In a message dated 7/7/03 8:09:49 AM Central Daylight Time, siders@cableone.net writes: > The Subscriber link at: > > SACKETT-L <http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~sidersn/sackett> > I don't seem to be able to get into the website. Keeps telling me that the link is no longer in existence.

Folks! Welcome all new subscribers!! The Subscriber link at: SACKETT-L <http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~sidersn/sackett> has been updated for the first time in well over six months. Please be my tester and check out your listing. If old info, in error or not in existance at all, please provide the information and I will fix your listing ASAHP. This link is keeping track of major ancestor lines, Founding Members of SACKETT-L as well as TSFA information and DNA volunteers. Again, let me know if I've erred in any way. If there is anything you do not understand from missing previous messages, again, send a message to me and I'll be happy to attempt to explain. Those who have notified me that they are away on vacation have been left on the link although they are actually not subscribed as well as those temporarily unsubscribed due to illness. We currently have three such cousins I'm counting on to resubscribe again soon. Later...Nancy Nancy Cluff Siders <siders@cableone.net> Acting TSFA President and List Admin for: CLUFF-L, COUNTRYMAN-L, LETSON-L, MCKAY-ELKENNY-L, SACKETT-L, SIDERS-L To forget one's ancestors is to be a brook without a source, a tree without a root. ~Chinese proverb

As most of the list knows, I have been trying to research all of the Michigan Sackett's for a long time. When looking through Lenawee Co., MI info at the Museum in Adrian, I found pages from the family Bible of Oramel Sackett and his first wife Cornelia Willey. I have this information posted at the Lenawee Co. website: http://dianesgenealogy.com/lenaweemi/biblesackett.html Between census records, death records, etc., I have found 3 different name combinations for Milford F. Sackett, son of Oramel and his second wife, Susan Betts. Fortunately we found Sue and her husband to set us straight on his name. In my earlier post on this site, I had Suzanne Sackett as "d. after 1984" because I knew she was alive that year. Was happy to find out she is alive and well now! Hadn't meant to imply that she wasn't! Milford had a son named Milton. I think that is why I must have made that earlier mistake. Anyway, I think this line is getting straightened out. The link to a picture of Oramel A. Sackett (Milford's father) is at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~sackettheadstones/index_a-z/sackett_n-r.htm#O Hope this helps. Mary Lou

I suppose that now is a good a time to discuss the spelling of the names of our ancestors. As pointed out by Mary Lou; determining the "right" spelling of an individual's name from records and documents we manage to find can be interesting, to say the least. One of the things we often forget is that many of our ancestors were not able to read or write. As shown by the documents they signed with a "his/her mark". This resulted in the name being spelled the way the one writing the document heard the name pronounced. Therefore we have the surname SACKETT spelled as SACKT, SACKIT, SACKITT, SACKUT, SUCKUTT, SUCKIT, SUCKITT, SACHET, SACHETT, SACKET, SACKETT; just to list a few of the ways it was heard pronounced. An example which relates to the family of Milford Sackett can be found in the name of his father. Charles Weygant has his name as 4257-Orneal Sackett. The 1850 census has his name spelled as Oramer Sackett: Year: 1850; State: MI; County: Lenawee; Township: Blissfield Roll: M432_355 Page: 358 1435/1435 Sacket, Oramer A. 40 m carpenter NY Sacket, Susan 38 f NY Sacket, Eliza 10 f MI And other records have it spelled Oramel. So, how does one determine which is the "right" spelling? We've had similar situations with the names Orlen/Orlin/Orland Sackett Rolin/Rollin/Rowland/Roland Sackett I recently had contact with a descendant of Weygant's 600-Justice Sackett who has a family Bible which has his name spelled Justus Sackett and asked that I correct the spelling of the name, on the website, from Justice to Justus. Now, I could change the spelling in my database. But when it comes to Weygant's book, the best I could do is to put a note that the name was probably spelled as "Justus". And if I change the spelling in my database, then those looking for him based on Weygant's spelling as "Justice" would not find him. Briefly, concerning death dates. As Mary Lou pointed out; entering that one died AFTER a date does not necessarily mean that the individual has died. It just means that this was the last known date that the person was alive. The same would apply to a death date given as BEFORE as given date. Such as a will which mentions the heirs of a son or daughter who is deceased. We don't know when the son or daughter died but we know the date of the will which says they had died before that date. I hope this helps some in understanding some of the little problems we face in updating the information found in Weygant's book. Thurmon Acting TSFA Historian [Wow !! a title already] On Sun, 6 Jul 2003 09:49:47 -0400 "Mary Lou Sackett" <mlsackett@team-national.com> writes: > As most of the list knows, I have been trying to research all of the > Michigan Sackett's for a long time. When looking through Lenawee > Co., MI info at the Museum in Adrian, I found pages from the family > Bible of Oramel Sackett and his first wife Cornelia Willey. I have > this information posted at the Lenawee Co. website: > http://dianesgenealogy.com/lenaweemi/biblesackett.html > > Between census records, death records, etc., I have found 3 > different name combinations for Milford F. Sackett, son of Oramel > and his second wife, Susan Betts. Fortunately we found Sue and her > husband to set us straight on his name. In my earlier post on this > site, I had Suzanne Sackett as "d. after 1984" because I knew she > was alive that year. Was happy to find out she is alive and well > now! Hadn't meant to imply that she wasn't! Milford had a son > named Milton. I think that is why I must have made that earlier > mistake. Anyway, I think this line is getting straightened out. > > The link to a picture of Oramel A. Sackett (Milford's father) is at > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~sackettheadstones/index_a-z/sack ett_n-r.htm#O > > Hope this helps. Mary Lou > > > ==== SACKETT Mailing List ==== > RootsWeb blocks HTML formatting in email messages. Be sure to set > your > email software to text only before posting a message to the list. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Nancy, I believe I had already told Mary Lou of the mistakes. Thanks, Sue

Sue, I believe we will need to ask Mary Lou where this information came from. As far I can ascertain, Weygant and hence Thurmon King has nothing for #4257. The URL you sent me worked great. It's from the Archives of letters for this list. The URL you sent is a link to a message Mary Lou sent to this mailing list in November of 2002. Mary Lou must have found your SACKETT's in Michigan and was hopeing to link up with them. Maybe she'll explain to us how Milford got to be Milton...? Later...Nancy Nancy Cluff Siders List Admin CLUFF-L, COUNTRYMAN-L, LETSON-L, MCKAY-ELKENNY-L, SACKETT-L, SIDERS-L To forget one's ancestors is to be a brook without a source, a tree without a root. ~Chinese proverb -----Original Message----- From: Jsack4243@cs.com [mailto:Jsack4243@cs.com] Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2003 3:43 PM To: SACKETT-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SACKETT-L] A SACKETT Milestone I HAD to share with everyone!! Nancy, Just looking at where I got the Milton Sackett instead of Milford Sackett. It was something that Mary Lou forwarded to me. I hope I get this correct: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/read/SACKETT/2002-11/1036209931 Subject: Oramel Almeron Sackett, # 3. iv. Milton Sackett, b.Abt 1855, Michigan (should read Milford Sackett) Also # 4. Children of John Sackett and Marie Manor......it lists Suzanne Sackett as deceased, when in fact she is still alive. She is married to Robert Jackman. She has helped me a lot with questions about the family. Also, my husband said he would participate in the DNA group study. Sue Sackett

Nancy, Just looking at where I got the Milton Sackett instead of Milford Sackett. It was something that Mary Lou forwarded to me. I hope I get this correct: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/read/SACKETT/2002-11/1036209931 Subject: Oramel Almeron Sackett, # 3. iv. Milton Sackett, b.Abt 1855, Michigan (should read Milford Sackett) Also # 4. Children of John Sackett and Marie Manor......it lists Suzanne Sackett as deceased, when in fact she is still alive. She is married to Robert Jackman. She has helped me a lot with questions about the family. Also, my husband said he would participate in the DNA group study. Sue Sackett

Sue, With all the SACKETT males in John W.'s family, hopefully we'll have at least one to assist in identifying John SACKETT, The Colonist!! Whoopee!~ Thanks so much for your wonderful interest in genealogy! I too wish I could share what I have learned about the MANY families they had NO IDEA they were related, with my parents and especially my Aunt Hazel (our family storyteller). They would be absolutely amazed!! :) Please do not hesitate to ask me ANYTHING you do not understand. Later...Nancy Nancy Cluff Siders Acting TSFA President and List Admin for: CLUFF-L, COUNTRYMAN-L, LETSON-L, MCKAY-ELKENNY-L, SACKETT-L, SIDERS-L To forget one's ancestors is to be a brook without a source, a tree without a root. ~Chinese proverb -----Original Message----- From: Jsack4243@cs.com [mailto:Jsack4243@cs.com] Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2003 1:06 PM To: SACKETT-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SACKETT-L] A SACKETT Milestone I HAD to share with everyone!! Hi Nancy, I do not mind a bit that you forwarded my e-mail. In answer to your question, "Yes" we have two son's, also my husband comes from a family of 10 children, 7 boys, 3 girls. There are 30 plus children from all of those marriages and the number of grandchildren run in the teens right now. I have to digest everything else you have told me. I am very new at genealogy, my sister is into it heavy duty, so she has helped me get started. Also, I frequently write to Mary Lou Sackett, she has been wonderful helping me. I am not sure about all the things you have told me about, but will try to answer or reply to everything as soon as possible. I am totally amazed how easy it was to find our Sackett's online with just a little research. The click of the right button has really been fruitful. My sister is so jealous, she has knocked herself out for years doing our parents family. She lives in Colorado and has access to Mormon libraries, including Salt Lake City, just a few hours away. I am in Florida. My father in law, Milford J Sackett was always interested in his family history but never even knew his Grandfather's name, he died the same year his Grandfather was born. He would be in awe at all of this. It is a pity. I will be writing again soon, please feel free to ask me anything, any time you want. Thankyou, Sue ==== SACKETT Mailing List ==== GEN-NEWBIE-L: No question is too elementary and the atmosphere is relaxed & friendly. GEN-NEWBIE-D: This list is the digest mode for GEN-NEWBIE-L. ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Hi Nancy, I do not mind a bit that you forwarded my e-mail. In answer to your question, "Yes" we have two son's, also my husband comes from a family of 10 children, 7 boys, 3 girls. There are 30 plus children from all of those marriages and the number of grandchildren run in the teens right now. I have to digest everything else you have told me. I am very new at genealogy, my sister is into it heavy duty, so she has helped me get started. Also, I frequently write to Mary Lou Sackett, she has been wonderful helping me. I am not sure about all the things you have told me about, but will try to answer or reply to everything as soon as possible. I am totally amazed how easy it was to find our Sackett's online with just a little research. The click of the right button has really been fruitful. My sister is so jealous, she has knocked herself out for years doing our parents family. She lives in Colorado and has access to Mormon libraries, including Salt Lake City, just a few hours away. I am in Florida. My father in law, Milford J Sackett was always interested in his family history but never even knew his Grandfather's name, he died the same year his Grandfather was born. He would be in awe at all of this. It is a pity. I will be writing again soon, please feel free to ask me anything, any time you want. Thankyou, Sue

-----Original Message----- From: Brian Sackett [mailto:bsackett@in-tch.com] Sent: Friday, February 07, 2003 11:14 AM To: SACKETT-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [SACKETT-L] DNA Study I wouldn't fit for the Simon test, but would definitely be a candidate for the Aaron (714) issue Brian ====================================================================== Folks! Now, in updating the Subscribers page at SACKETT-L web site, I find I owe Brian SACKETT a HUGE apology!! He wrote the above message in February, when we were discussing the possibility for a DNA Group Study. I didn't take the time to find out who Aaron (714) was at that time. Today I find that Aaron is the descendant of Josiah Crego, Richard, Jonathan, John, and John, The Colonist!! Another milestone and has already indicated he would definitely be a candidate for the DNA test!!! Brian, you are now on the web site as a DNA candidate! Feel free to send me from Aaron to you and I'll include that too! If I remember correctly, there has been some discussion in the past as to whether or not Josiah Crego was Richard's actual son or a step son...? Something like that...? BUT the DNA test would be a sure fire way to prove or disprove his connection to SACKETT's! Dah! Sometimes Nancy just moves too fast and misses the whole point on things!!! :{ Later...Nancy Nancy Cluff Siders Acting TSFA President and List Admin of: CLUFF-L, COUNTRYMAN-L, LETSON-L, MCKAY-ELKENNY-L, SACKETT-L, SIDERS-L To forget one's ancestors is to be a brook without a source, a tree without a root. ~Chinese proverb a tree without a root. ~Chinese proverb

-----Original Message----- Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2003 5:25 AM To: siders@cableone.net Subject: Re: membership Dear Nancy, As requested, here is list of my husbands ancestors: John and Agnes Tinkham Sackett Jonathan and Hannah Sackett Richard and Margery Sleade Sackett John and Elizabeth Marten Sackett Benjamin and Phebe Davis Sackett Calvin P. and Hannah Douglas Sackett Oramel A. and Susan Betts Sackett Milford F. and Angeline Young Sackett John W. and Marie Manor Sackett Milford J. and Leona Horger Sackett Rootsweb has my husbands great-grandfather listed as Milton Sackett when it is in fact Milford. I have the 1880 Fulton County, Michigan census. Also his wife Angeline may be listed as Angeline Walters when I believe it is Young. I am very excited about joining your Sackett list. Thank you, Sue Sackett ============================================================ Sue, I hope you don't mind that I have forwarded this to two of the surname lists I manage - SACKETT-L and MCKAY-ELKENNY-L. I personally (and I'm sure several on both surname lists) am VERY excited that you and your husband, John W. SACKETT have joined SACKETT-L!! John SACKETT, The Colonist who married Agnes TINKHAM is our line too! The Benjamin you include above was brother to our ancestor, Mary SACKETT who married Alexander MCKAY. Your husband is one of a very few male lines who have made it on the SACKETT-L list with the surname of any spelling of SACKETT!! Our dear and special Wendy SACKET brings her line down to us, Richard Heath SACKETT brings his line down to us, plus Richard W. SACKETT (snail mail only). That's it! So I imagine Richard Heath just breathed a sign of relief. ;) You see, the one who can be included in the study has to be a male with the last name of SACKETT. I believe I told you about the recent initiation of The Sackett Family Association (TSFA) in my reply to your first inquiry about joining SACKETT-L. We hope you will consider joining as a Founding Member of this currently no-dues association. As time and energy levels of officer's permit, we hope to organize a DNA Group Study to help determine whether of not we are connected to Simon SACKETT, The Colonist and all the generations in England whom Chris and Marion SACKETT of the UK have so diligently been researching. Chris has written a HUGE amount of information entitled the "Where's John Study" that I've never gotten back to him yet but SOME DAY, Chris I will get through it all and respond! Promise! :} So John W. and Sue SACKETT, I bet you never knew you were so important!! :) I don't know how to ask you this politely so I will just blurt it out. ;) Oh, please tell us you have sons!! If not, we will console ourselves, just as we've consoled ourselves in our own lines. It's the way things happen in genealogy. :} When John was born, did his parents know of John, The Colonist yet? So be thinking about the DNA Group Study. There is nothing to it. My brother took the test for our CLUFF line. It's a mere swab of the inside of the cheek of the mouth and mail it in to whatever company we decide to use in the hopefully near future. I know, I know! We have to get the TSFA started first before we take on major project such as a DNA Study. But hopefully within a year or two, a VERY IMPORTANT project for these surname lists is in line to happen and I hope John W. will agree to participate!! We're not putting TOO MUCH pressure, are we? ;) As to your statement that "Rootsweb has my husbands great-grandfather listed as Milton Sackett when it is in fact Milford", I searched WorldConnect, all of Thurmon's sites that I have in my IE Favorites, Chris SACKETT's One-Name-Study web site, SACKETT-L's web site and I did not find a Milton except for Shannon Spencer's family on SACKETT-L's site. Shannon as far as I know (she's no longer subscribed, I believe) never knew anything beyond her Milton SACKETT. So Sue, what is the URL where this "Milton" is stored on the web...? We'll be happy to help correct this if possible. If on WorldConnect, that's beyond our control if not a database of one of our subscribers. Sorry this message got so lengthy but this is a milestone for John, The Colonist descendants on SACKETT-L and for Mary SACKETT descendants on MCKAY-ELKENNY-L!! :) While I have these relatives' attention I thought I'd include some web sources. The Sackett information those of us on the Sackett mailing list have been compiling is found on various websites: SACKETT-L's web site http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~sidersn/sackett Update to the Subscribers is under construction. I hope to have it finished today or at least tomorrow. You'll find more related URL's at the list's main page* under "Family Web Pages" or go directly to: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~sidersn/sackett/sackett_homes.html I see I'll need to work on this page! Some links crash and burn. ;) Thurmon King's web pages on Charles Weygant's book, Sacketts of America that I have in my IE Favorites folders: http://freepages.books.rootsweb.com/~teking/ The Sacketts of America Genealogical Database Master Index at: http://www.tqsi.com/genweb/king/king.html http://freepages.books.rootsweb.com/~teking/index.htm http://freepages.books.rootsweb.com/~teking/orphans.html Specifically directed to John, The Colonist: http://freepages.books.rootsweb.com/~teking/Weygant/soa_pgs-012-19.html#5 http://freepages.books.rootsweb.com/~teking/john-2/index.htm and then, Fred Sackett's collection of headstone pictures: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~sackettheadstones/ and Chris Sackett's SACKETT One-Name Study www.sackett.org.uk To find our databases at WorldConnect on RootsWeb, go to: http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com The easiest way I have found to access the database's is to NOT use the surname search prompts; but to use the "specific database" instead. sackett001, is headed by William Sackett of Jordan Down, c1520-1572. sackett004, is headed by Richard Sackete the elder, c1470-1490-1548/49. sackett007, is headed by Thomas Sackett the elder, c1530-1595/96. sackett008, is headed by John Sackett of Sackett's Hill, c1525-1592. John, The Colonist: sackett009, is headed by John Sackett of New Haven, c1628-1684. Anyone from Simon, The American Colonist may go directly to him at this URL. He is included in sackett007. http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=sackett007&id=I05 357 Some of the above URL's will more than likely wrap to a second line. You will need to highlight, copy and paste to your browser's Address box anything that goes to the second line to make one complete line. Oh, happy day! I think you can get an idea of how much I love genealogy from this message. :) Later...Nancy Nancy Cluff Siders <siders@cableone.net> Acting TSFA President and List Admin on: CLUFF-L, COUNTRYMAN-L, LETSON-L, MCKAY-ELKENNY-L, SACKETT-L, SIDERS-L To forget one's ancestors is to be a brook without a source, a tree without a root. ~Chinese proverb

I've been entering the Sackett/Carter connections from "A Genealogy of the Descendants of Thomas Carter" and have run across a Sackett that I don't have in my database and have been unable to determine who her parents might be. Does anyone on the list have any information? Or have access to census records that might help? In the Carter genealogy, page 174-175: 340. HARLEY PETERS7 CARTER (William6) b. East Bloomfield, N. Y., May 7, 1839; m. there Dec. 2, 1868, Helen Louisa Preston, b. East Bloomfield, Oct. 28, 1842, dau. of Orrin and Betsey (Cronk) Preston. Page 175 Res. East Bloomfield and Mendon, N. Y. Children, b. East Bloomfield, N. Y.: i. Elizabeth Preston,8 b. Sept. 25, 1870; m. Pittsford, N. Y., March 15, 1899, William Buholtz, b. Pittsford, March 10, 1871, d. there May 4, 1904, son of Frederick and Rekah (Sackett) Buholtz. Child: Elmer Carter, b. May 13, 1902; d. May 16, 1902. This genealogy is the only place I have found Rekah Sackett and I have been unable to find a Rebecca/Rebeka(h) that will match with her. I found her daughter-in-law Elizabeth (Carter) Buholtz listed in: Honeoye Falls Cemetery, Village of Honeoye Falls, Town of Mendon, [Monroe Co.] New York: BUHOLTZ Elizabeth Carter; 1870 - 1960 and Elizabeth's parents; CARTER Harley P.; 1839 - 1921 Helen Preston, wife of Harley P.; 1842 - 1924 And three Sacketts SACKETT Emma; 1891 - 1968 Ethel B.; 1898 - 1922 George; 1893 - 1973 [Any ideas on who these Sacketts are?] Now, according to the Carter genealogy William Buholtz was born March 10, 1871 in Pittsford, Monroe Co., NY which would seem to indicate that his parents; Frederick Buholtz and Rekah Sackett were possibly living there for the 1870 census. And they were probably still living there when William Buholtz married Elizabeth Carter in 1899. I searched for Frederick Buholtz in the 1880 census on the LDS website and had no hits. I searched for heads of household with the surname BUHOLTZ and got no hits in Monroe Co., NY. All of the individuals named William Buholtz were in other states. One search indicated that there is a Fredderick Buholtz in the 1910 census for NY. Could it be that Rekah Sackett's name was a german name that was "converted" to Sackett? Any help is welcome Thurmon

"Witching" for water. In the account of some of my experiences with Old Red the mule; I mentioned us transporting our water from a well about 1/4 mile from where we lived. Actually there were about seven other neighbor families within 1/2 mile of the well who got theri water from there. Now, the 80 acres that Grandpa King leased; the house was located in the NE corner of the property next to the road which ran north and south along the east side. The house was on top of a hill and to the west was a 5-10 acre peach orchard. Late in the spring of 1939, while we were living in the tent, Grandpa, Dad, and my brother Donal were out in the orchard when Donal asked Dad: "Dad, how does Grandpa Sackett witch for water?" (Grandpa Sackett was called upon by his neighbors in Titus Co., TX to help them determine where to dig their wells because he was able to "witch" or "douse" for water.) Dad replied; "I'm not sure how he does it. But I'll show you what I have seen him do. He uses a forked branch from a fruit tree, like these peach trees." Dad then cut one of the newer forked branches (a "Y") from a peach tree and showed Donal how Grandpa Sackett would hold the branch (The forked branch was inverted with a tip held in each hand in such a way that it would not lean forward) and started walking across the orchard. Before he had gotten very far the branch started leaning forward and after a short distance it was pointing straight down. Dad marked the spot and with the branch back in the upright position continued north across the orchard. And nothing happened. He then turned around and started back going south across the orchard and soon the branch started leaning again and was pointing straight down ... at the same spot Dad had marked ! He then proceed on south across the orchard and into the field south of the orchard. And nothing happened. To "make a long story short;" Dad walked back and forth in the orchard; working his way toward the house, marking where the branch reached the downward position. During this process he began to notice that there seemed to be a consistancy in the distance between where the branch began to lean and when it was straight down. It ranged from 19-22 feet. I was with Grandma in her flower garden when we saw the three of them walking back and forth in the orchard and by then they all three had branches in their hands. The line they had marked out, which they had decided must be a "vein" of water about 20 feet down, passed about 40 feet north of the house. Well, with there being no employment for Dad at that time, he and Grandpa decided it was worth testing their theory that there was a vein of water down there. So they started digging. When they got 20 feet down they hid solid rock and decided that the water must be just below the rock. So, using a star drill and a hammer they drilled a hole in the rock and within a foot the hole was through the rock. But no water came out. So they decided to blast the rock with dynamite. When Dad was ready to blast we were all told to stay in the house, or to get well away from the "well." So I went to the tent which was about 150 yards from the "well." When the dynamite went off I saw a large chunk of rock come out of the well and landed in a thicket between the "well" and where I was at the tent. (We didn't find this chunk of rock until later in the summer.) The noise from the blast was so loud that it scared Mother and Grandma and they "laid down the law": NO MORE BLASTING !!! When the dust had cleared there was now a hole about 1 1/2 - 2 feet in dia. through the rock. But no water. They excavated some of the material from under the rock and as far as they could reach in all directions from the opening in the rock. Still no water. So the "well" was forgotten and the neighbors had a laugh at Dad and Grandpa "diggin' a well on top of the hill." In the fall of that year, Dad got a job with the Batsons back near town and we moved into the house where we lived when Dad became "The Ghost in Marietta Cemetery". The next spring, Grandpa came by our house to get Donal to come down to his place and help him "bail out" the well ! Water had come into the well and was up within 8-10 feet of the surface. But before the water had come in there had been some rodents that had fallen into the hole and perished. And that didn't make the water very desirable. Drawing the water out of the well took them several hours because fresh water kept coming into the well fast enough that if they stopped for very long the water level would gain back. Grandpa said that the water was coming into the well from under the rock on the north side of the hole they had blasted through the rock. So then, Dad had missed the water vein by about 2 feet. But Dad and Grandpa had the "last laugh" on the neighbors; because they ended up hauling their water from Grandpa's well ... Up on top of the hill. Thurmon

I finished entering the information from "A history of the Willaim Dean Family", 1903. The Register Report included here represents what I currently have for his descendants. I have not included the notes which will be included on the website when the information is uploaded. Thurmon ================ Modified Register for Myron Sacket First Generation 1. Myron Sacket was born on 14 Feb 1787 in Warren, Litchfield Co., CT.. He died in 1849 in Canfield, Mahoning Co., OH. The cause of death was Pneumonia. Myron married Orphia Dean daughter of William Dean and Parthenea Bailey on 16 Apr 1817. Orphia was born in 1797 in Cornwall, Litchfield Co., CT. She died in 1882 in Warren, Trumbull Co., OH. They had the following children: + 2 M i. Ward Eldred Sacket was born on 21 Apr 1818. He died on 7 Sep 1892. + 3 F ii. Sarah Parthena Sacket was born on 14 May 1820. She died on 24 Jan 1883. + 4 F iii. Minerva Sacket was born on 3 Apr 1823. She died on 7 Oct 1889. + 5 F iv. Harriet Sacket was born on 4 Jun 1825. She died on 19 Dec 1855. + 6 M v. Oliver Patch Sacket was born on 19 Jan 1828. He died after 1880. 7 F vi. Charlotte M. Sacket was born on 16 Jun 1830 in Canfield, Mahoning Co., OH. She died after 1903. + 8 F vii. Mary Melissa Sacket was born on 7 Dec 1833. She died on 5 Aug 1890. + 9 F viii. Flora Jane Sacket was born on 29 Nov 1836. She died on 6 Jun 1878. 10 F ix. Olive Amelia Sacket was born on 15 Jan 1841 in Canfield, Mahoning Co., OH. She died on 8 Sep 1842 in Canfield, Mahoning Co., OH. Second Generation 2. Ward Eldred Sacket (Myron) was born on 21 Apr 1818 in Canfield, Mahoning Co., OH. He died on 7 Sep 1892 in Southington, Trumbull Co., OH. Ward married Fidelia T. Turner daughter of James Turner and Rachel Reed on 26 Apr 1840 in Canfield, Mahoning Co., OH. Fidelia was born on 11 Mar 1820 in Canfield, Mahoning Co., OH. She died on 23 May 1888 in Canfield, Mahoning Co., OH. They had the following children: + 11 M i. Myron Ward Sackett was born on 24 Oct 1841. He died after 1905. 3. Sarah Parthena Sacket (Myron) was born on 14 May 1820 in Canfield, Mahoning Co., OH. She died on 24 Jan 1883 in Youngstown, Mahoning Co., OH. Sarah married Enos Austin son of Benjamin Austin and Olive Harmon on 23 Apr 1840 in Warren, Trumbull Co., OH. Enos was born on 7 Jul 1809 in Warren, Trumbull Co., OH. He died on 16 Jan 1886 in Youngstown, Mahoning Co., OH. They had the following children: 12 F i. Fidelia Teresa Austin was born on 12 Jan 1847 in Canfield, Mahoning Co., OH. Fidelia married Frank Stiles on 10 Sep 1868. Frank was born on 3 Sep 1841 in Weymouth, Medina Co., OH. 13 M ii. Myron B. Austin was born on 24 Jan 1851 in Newton Falls, Trumbull Co., OH. He died on 23 Jan 1853 in Newton Falls, Trumbull Co., OH. 14 F iii. Charlotte Minerva Austin was born on 15 Sep 1854 in Newton Falls, Trumbull Co., OH. Charlotte married (1) Clark S. Talmadge . Charlotte married (2) Clark A. Sacket son of Clark Sacket and Laura M. Aikin on 25 Aug 1886 in Tallmadge, Summit Co., OH. Clark was born on 15 May 1837 in CT. He died after 1886. 4. Minerva Sacket (Myron) was born on 3 Apr 1823 in Canfield, Mahoning Co., OH. She died on 7 Oct 1889 in Warren, Trumbull Co., OH. Minerva married Harman Austin son of Benjamin Austin and Olive Harmon on 11 Jan 1843 in Warren, Trumbull Co., OH. Harman was born on 27 Jul 1817 in Warren, Trumbull Co., OH. He died on 6 Nov 1893 in Warren, Trumbull Co., OH. They had the following children: 15 M i. Benajah Austin was born on 26 Feb 1849 in Warren, Trumbull Co., OH. He died on 13 Jun 1861 in Warren, Trumbull Co., OH. + 16 F ii. Helen King Austin was born on 15 Dec 1853. + 17 M iii. Harmon Austin , Jr. was born on 6 Jul 1865. + 18 F iv. Mary Sackett Austin was born on 8 Dec 1866. 5. Harriet Sacket (Myron) was born on 4 Jun 1825 in Canfield, Mahoning Co., OH. She died on 19 Dec 1855 in Boardman, Mahoning Co., OH. Harriet married Charles Reed Turner son of James Turner and Rachel Reed on 6 Apr 1848 in Canfield, Mahoning Co., OH. Charles was born on 24 May 1824 in Canfield, Mahoning Co., OH. He died on 26 Sep 1874 in Warren, Trumbull Co., OH. They had the following children: 19 M i. Ward S. Turner was born on 2 May 1849 in Boardman, Mahoning Co., OH. He died on 17 Jun 1858 in Warren, Trumbull Co., OH. 6. Oliver Patch Sacket (Myron) was born on 19 Jan 1828 in Canfield, Mahoning Co., OH. He died after 1880. Oliver married (1) Elsie Turner on 22 Jan 1856. Elsie was born in Copely, Summit Co., OH. She died on 27 Apr 1871 in Copely, Summit Co., OH. They had the following children: 20 F i. Emma Charlotte Sackett was born on 18 Nov 1857 in Copely, Summit Co., OH. She died on 21 Sep 1858 in Copely, Summit Co., OH. + 21 M ii. Charles Oliver Sackett was born on 6 Jun 1859. + 22 F iii. Lelia Luella Sackett was born on 30 Nov 1863. Oliver married (2) Mary E. Stevens on 1 May 1873. Mary died on 1 Nov 1886 in Cameron, Clinton Co., MO. They had the following children: + 23 M iv. Harry Evans Sackett was born on 10 Oct 1874. 24 F v. Charlotte Minerva Sackett was born on 27 Dec 1883 in Cameron, Clinton Co., MO. Oliver married (3) Addie B. Jones in Jun 1893. 8. Mary Melissa Sacket (Myron) was born on 7 Dec 1833 in Canfield, Mahoning Co., OH. She died on 5 Aug 1890 in LaGrange, LaGrange Co., IN. Mary married Dr. Aquila Briscoe M. D. on 24 Feb 1853. Aquila was born on 1 Mar 1818 in Lauden Co., VA. He died on 14 Aug 1874 in LaGrange, LaGrange Co., IN. They had the following children: + 25 M i. Seymour C. Briscoe was born on 28 May 1854. 26 F ii. Minerva Sackett Briscoe "Minnie" was born on 11 May 1858 in La Grange Co., IN. She died on 13 Oct 1861 in Youngstown, Mahoning Co., OH. 27 M iii. Frank O. Briscoe was born on 15 Feb 1861. He died on 28 Apr 1867 in Boonville, Cooper Co., MO. + 28 M iv. Harman Austin Briscoe was born on 10 Jul 1863. 9. Flora Jane Sacket (Myron) was born on 29 Nov 1836 in Canfield, Mahoning Co., OH. She died on 6 Jun 1878 in Davenport, Scott Co., IA. Flora married Charles Reed Turner son of James Turner and Rachel Reed on 19 Sep 1857. Charles was born on 24 May 1824 in Canfield, Mahoning Co., OH. He died on 26 Sep 1874 in Warren, Trumbull Co., OH. They had the following children: 29 F i. Harriet Turner was born on 19 Sep 1858 in Warren, Trumbull Co., OH. She died on 25 Jan 1859 in Warren, Trumbull Co., OH. 30 F ii. Jennie Estelle Turner was born on 22 Oct 1860 in Warren, Trumbull Co., OH. + 31 F iii. Harriet Sackett Turner was born on 3 Aug 1863. Third Generation 11. Myron Ward Sackett (Ward Eldred, Myron) was born on 24 Oct 1841 in Southington, Trumbull Co., OH. He died after 1905. Myron married Sarah Varian Barber daughter of David Barber and Susan Haynes on 15 Aug 1866. Sarah was born on 7 Nov 1844. She died unknown. They had the following children: 32 M i. Ward Myron Sackett was born on 21 Aug 1869 in Meadville, Crawford Co., PA. + 33 F ii. Gertrude Sackett was born on 25 Jul 1871. 34 F iii. Bertha Sackett was born on 14 Feb 1877 in Meadville, Crawford Co., PA. + 35 F iv. Marian Josephine Sackett was born on 25 Mar 1879. 36 M v. Edgar Haynes Sackett was born on 16 Apr 1883 in Meadville, Crawford Co., PA. 16. Helen King Austin "Nellie" (Minerva Sacket, Myron) was born on 15 Dec 1853 in Warren, Trumbull Co., OH. Helen married William Campbell Pendleton on 15 Jan 1880. William was born on 3 May 1849 in Bethany, Brooke Co., WV. They had the following children: 37 M i. Austin Campbell Pendleton was born on 3 Aug 1881. Austin married Winifred Thune . 17. Harmon Austin , Jr. (Minerva Sacket, Myron) was born on 6 Jul 1865 in Warren, Trumbull Co., OH. Harmon married Sally Heaton Woods on 3 Sep 1890. Sally was born on 3 Jun 1867 in Warren, Trumbull Co., OH. They had the following children: 38 F i. Julia H. Austin was born on 1 Dec 1894 in Warren, Trumbull Co., OH. 39 F ii. Hannah Woods Austin was born on 18 Aug 1896 in Warren, Trumbull Co., OH. She died on 7 Jun 1897 in Warren, Trumbull Co., OH. 40 F iii. Ruth Berry Austin was born on 11 Nov 1898 in Warren, Trumbull Co., OH. 18. Mary Sackett Austin (Minerva Sacket, Myron) was born on 8 Dec 1866 in Warren, Trumbull Co., OH. Mary married Thomas Ross on 10 Jul 1888. Thomas was born on 3 Apr 1863 in Portsmouth, Scioto Co., OH. Thomas and Mary had the following children: 41 F i. Elizabeth Ross was born on 26 Feb 1889 in Warren, Trumbull Co., OH. 42 M ii. Randall Austin Ross was born on 7 Feb 1895 in Cleveland, Cuyahoga Co., OH. 43 M iii. Austin Ross was born on 30 Jun 1902 in Cleveland, Cuyahoga Co., OH. 21. Charles Oliver Sackett (Oliver Patch, Myron) was born on 6 Jun 1859 in Copely, Summit Co., OH. Charles married Carrie H. Green daughter of Ira W. Green and Ada Bacon on 7 May 1885. Carrie was born on 21 Aug 1860 in Racine, Racine Co., WI. They had the following children: 44 M i. Loy Earl Sackett was born on 25 Nov 1886 in Cameron, Clinton Co., MO. 45 M ii. Arthur Green Sackett was born on 26 May 1888 in Cameron, Clinton Co., MO. 46 M iii. Charles Say Sackett . 47 M iv. Earl Sackett . 22. Lelia Luella Sackett (Oliver Patch, Myron) was born on 30 Nov 1863 in Copely, Summit Co., OH. Lelia married William Jasper Todd on 23 Feb 1888. William was born on 26 Jan 1853 in Stewartsville, Dekalb Co., Mo. They had the following children: 48 F i. Lottie Minerva Todd was born on 30 Jan 1889 in Beatrice, Gage Co., NE. 49 M ii. Hinsdale Sackett Todd was born on 13 Sep 1890 in Beatrice, Gage Co., NE. 50 F iii. Celia Sackett Todd was born on 1 Oct 1897 in Beatrice, Gage Co., NE. She died on 28 Jun 1899 in Beatrice, Gage Co., NE. 23. Harry Evans Sackett (Oliver Patch, Myron) was born on 10 Oct 1874 in Warren, Trumbull Co., OH. Harry married Hermina Reynolds daughter of Hermon M. Ryenolds and Naomi Barkus on 27 Sep 1899. Hermina was born on 27 Jan 1875 in Beatrice, Gage Co., NE. They had the following children: 51 M i. Dean Reynolds Sackett was born on 6 Nov 1902. 52 M ii. Harry Evans Sackett , Jr. was born on 24 Sep 1906. 25. Seymour C. Briscoe (Mary Melissa Sacket, Myron) was born on 28 May 1854 in Newton Falls, Trumbull Co., OH. Seymour married (1) Clara B. Harper on 25 Mar 1876. They had the following children: + 53 F i. Mae Levina Briscoe was born on 1 May 1877. Seymour married (2) Annie J. Rowe on 1 Dec 1886. Annie was born on 26 Aug 1860 in Walcotville, La Grange Co., IN. They had the following children: 54 M ii. George L. Briscoe was born on 21 Oct 1889 in La Grange Co., IN. 28. Harman Austin Briscoe (Mary Melissa Sacket, Myron) was born on 10 Jul 1863 in Youngstown, Mahoning Co., OH. Harman married Elnora Ferris on 27 Dec 1892. Elnora was born on 27 Jan 1862 in Bradford, Schuyler co., NY. They had the following children: 55 M i. Ferris Dornell Briscoe was born on 27 Nov 1894 in West Union, Fayette Co., IA. 31. Harriet Sackett Turner (Flora Jane Sacket, Myron) was born on 3 Aug 1863 in Warren, Trumbull Co., OH. Harriet married Luther Edwards Wetmore on 25 Apr 1883. Luther was born on 3 Apr 1846 in Canfield, Mahoning Co., OH. They had the following children: 56 M i. Phil Henry Wetmore was born on 29 Apr 1884 in Canfield, Mahoning Co., OH. Fourth Generation 33. Gertrude Sackett (Myron Ward Sackett, Ward Eldred, Myron) was born on 25 Jul 1871 in Meadville, Crawford Co., PA. Gertrude married Seth Sprague Terry son of Seth Terry on 29 Jun 1903. They had the following children: 57 M i. Seth Sprague , Jr. Terry was born on 25 Apr 1904. 35. Marian Josephine Sackett (Myron Ward Sackett, Ward Eldred, Myron) was born on 25 Mar 1879 in Meadville, Crawford Co., PA. Marian married Walter Irving Bates son of Samuel P. Bates and Sarah Josephine Unknown on 7 Feb 1901. Walter was born on 15 Jun 1873 in Meadville, Crawford Co., PA. Walter and Marian had the following children: 58 F i. Elizabeth Bates was born on 13 Dec 1902. 59 M ii. Edward Bates was born on 27 Nov 1904. 53. Mae Levina Briscoe (Seymour C. Briscoe, Mary Melissa Sacket, Myron) was born on 1 May 1877 in La Grange Co., IN. Mae married Cassius Marion Leib on 2 Nov 1894. Cassius was born on 10 Jan 1862. They had the following children: 60 M i. Gean Paul Leib was born on 25 Aug 1895.

Recently I responded to a query by Darcy Moore looking for the ancestry of her grandfather, Arthur Monroe Sackett. Darcy's family have a family Bible which gives information on the family back to a Justus Sackett b. 1777, m. Fanny Faxon, but some of the family connections are not clearly indicated in the family Bible. With the images of the Bible pages, plus information from Darcy, information from Mary Lou Sackett, and some census information; we have come up with some descendants for 600-Justus/Justice Sackett. I have not included the notes in this register report. Thurmon ==================== Modified Register for Justice Sackett First Generation 1. Justice Sackett was born on 16 Jun 1777 in Westfield, Hampden Co., MA. He died on 28 Feb 1831 in Martinsburg, Lewis Co., NY. Justice married Fanna Faxon "Fanny" daughter of Thomas Faxon and Rachel Davis on 7 Mar 1805 in Martinsburg, Lewis Co., NY. Fanna was born on 16 Oct 1778 in Conway, Franklin Co., MA. She died on 12 Oct 1868 in Marshall, Calhoun Co., MI. They had the following children: 2 M i. Thomas Sackett was born on 24 Dec 1805 in Martinsburg, Lewis Co., NY. He died on 4 May 1807 in Martinsburg, Lewis Co., NY. 3 F ii. Ann Eliza Sackett was born on 8 Jun 1807 in Martinsburg, Lewis Co., NY. She died on 30 Sep 1864. Ann married George Taylor son of George Taylor and Elizabeth Valentine on 6 Oct 1844. George was born in 1820 in Fayette, Boone Co., IN. He died on 16 Dec 1864 in Nashville, Davidson Co., TN. 4 F iii. Cornelia Sackett was born on 31 Dec 1809 in Martinsburg, Lewis Co., NY. She died on 27 Jan 1812 in Martinsburg, Lewis Co., NY. 5 M iv. Addison Sackett was born on 14 Jun 1810 in Martinsburg, Lewis Co., NY. He died on 25 Nov 1827. + 6 M v. Morrison Sackett was born on 24 Oct 1811. He died on 21 Oct 1872. 7 M vi. Harrison Sackett was born on 24 Aug 1814 in Martinsburg, Lewis Co., NY. He died on 25 May 1815 in Martinsburg, Lewis Co., NY. 8 F vii. Electa Sackett was born on 25 Sep 1815 in Martinsburg, Lewis Co., NY. She died on 22 Sep 1817 in Martinsburg, Lewis Co., NY. + 9 M viii. Justus Sackett was born on 27 Feb 1819. He died on 27 Nov 1873. + 10 F ix. Aurelia Sackett was born on 28 Jul 1821. She died on 21 Sep 1851. Second Generation 6. Morrison Sackett (Justice) was born on 24 Oct 1811 in Martinsburg, Lewis Co., NY. He died on 21 Oct 1872 in Calhoun Co., MI. Morrison married Mary Adeline Brooks daughter of Abram Brooks and Esther Grant Brooks on 17 Jan 1842 in Rasin, Lenawee Co., MI. Mary was born on 20 Dec 1807. She died after 1880. Morrison and Mary had the following children: + 11 F i. Frances Sackett was born in 1845. 9. Justus Sackett (Justice) was born on 27 Feb 1819 in Martinsburg, Lewis Co., NY. He died on 27 Nov 1873 in Fredonia, Calhoun Co., MI. Justus married (1) Elizabeth R. Craft daughter of Job Craft and Ann Cox on 25 Dec 1851 in Rasin, Lenawee Co., MI. Elizabeth was born on 29 Oct 1823. She died on 19 Jan 1855 in MI. Justus married (2) Malancy W. Phelps daughter of Susan on 29 Dec 1856. Malancy was born on 22 Mar 1835 in NY. She died on 3 Dec 1873 in Fredonia, Calhoun Co., MI. They had the following children: 12 M i. Clarence J. Sackett was born on 1 Oct 1857 in MI. 13 F ii. Linda Sackett was born on 15 Feb 1859 in MI. She died in Jun 1935. Linda married Thomas B. Curtis on 29 Nov 1877. + 14 M iii. Arthur Monroe Sackett was born on 3 Nov 1871. 15 M iv. Ernest Faxon Sackett was born on 9 Sep 1873 in Fredonia, Calhoun Co., MI. He died on 14 Mar 1930. He was buried in Houston Cem., Fredonia Twp., Calhoun Co., MI . 10. Aurelia Sackett (Justice) was born on 28 Jul 1821 in Martinsburg, Lewis Co., NY. She died on 21 Sep 1851. Aurelia married Micah Brewster son of Caleb Brewster and Deborah Fish on 25 Dec 1844. Micah was born on 30 Jul 1819 in Junius, Seneca Co., NY. He died after 1880 in Clinton Twp, Leanwee Co., MI. They had the following children: 16 F i. Sarah B. Brewster was born on 3 Sep 1846 in MI. She died after 1880. Sarah married Wallace E. Wright . Wallace was born on 31 Aug 1845 in Tecumseh, Lenawee Co., MI. Third Generation 11. Frances Sackett "Fanny" (Morrison, Justice) was born in 1845 in MI. Frances married Daniel S. Van Blarcum on 18 Mar 1873 in Calhoun Co., MI. They had the following children: 17 F i. Eva L. Van Blarcum was born in 1874 in MI. 14. Arthur Monroe Sackett (Justus, Justice) was born on 3 Nov 1871 in Fredonia, Calhoun Co., MI. He died in TX. Arthur married Bertha Desdomona Parsons on 20 Dec 1893. The marriage ended in divorce. They had the following children: 18 F i. Mildred Sackett . + 19 M ii. Evart John Sackett was born on 7 Feb 1896. He died in Nov 1965. Fourth Generation 19. Evart John Sackett (Arthur Monroe, Justus, Justice) was born on 7 Feb 1896 in MI. He died in Nov 1965. He was buried in Arlington National Cemetery, VA. Evart married Melba Slater about 1920. They had the following children: 20 M i. Milton J. Sackett was born on 1 May 1921. He died on 11 Jul 1976. He was buried in Arlington National Cemetery, VA. Milton married Dorothy M Krasusky . Dorothy died before 2000. 21 F ii. Virginia Sackett . Virginia married Garland Lemmon . The marriage ended in divorce. + 22 F iii. Joan Sackett was born on 18 Aug 1925. Fifth Generation 22. Joan Sackett (Evart John, Arthur Monroe, Justus, Justice) was born on 18 Aug 1925. Joan married Kenneth L. Whitcomb They had the following children: 23 M i. Kenneth L. Whitcomb , Jr. 24 F ii. Sherry L. Whitcomb 25 M iii. Tracy L. Whitcomb 26 F iv. Darcy J. Whitcomb Darcy married Vance Moore .

Buel R. Sackett is in the 1870 census of Buckeye, Yolo Co., California, Buckeye is near Woodland, but with a different wife & birth state Sackett, Buel R., age 36, born Ohio, Farmer , Susan E., age 25, born Missouri, Keeping House , Harry E., age 6, born California , Herbert, age 5, " , Fanny, age 3, " , Louis, age 1, " Williams, Frances, age 22, born Missouri So this would be Susan E. Williams and the mother of the children. In the 1850 census of Hector, Thompkins County, New York bottom of page 389B is Philo Sacket,age 60, born NY, Farmer Gratia Sacket, age 63, born RI Mary V. Sacket, age 24, born NY and on top of page 390A Roxana M. Sacket, age 22, born NY Buel S. Sacket, age 20, born NY Could this Philo be the Philo that was the son of Buell Sackett and Sally Ann Beach and instead of Gratia it was Grace Perkins? I see someone has Philo as son of Buell Sackett & Lydia Buell, Grace Perkins was supposed to have been born in RI. Buell with 2 wives, Sally Ann & Lydia with Lydia being the mother of the children. Buell being the son of Bemjamin Sackett son of Jonathan & Hannah Graves. Line looks good...wonder if it can be proved? -----Original Message----- From: Thurmon E. King [mailto:thurmonking@juno.com] Sent: Friday, June 27, 2003 12:23 AM To: SACKETT-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SACKETT-L] Chester Sackett Louella: I don't have Chester in my database and have been unable to connect the Sacketts in Yolo co. to anyone in my database. I did find some information in the GLO/BLM records for California. Buel R. Sackett got land in 1868 and there were three Gibsons who also got land CA with a William B. Gibson's doc dated in 1869: MERIDIAN TOWNSHIP RANGE SECTION DOCID DATE NAME MD 0080N 0020W 023 2454 1868/12/01 SACKETT BUEL R MD 0110N 0030W 033 2568 1900/07/12 GIBSON BENJAMIN L MD 0100N 0010E 033 416 1875/08/30 GIBSON JOSEPH MD 0090N 0020E 005 2485 1869/08/05 GIBSON WILLIAM B Thurmon On Tue, 24 Jun 2003 20:55:44 -0400 "louella@endor.com" <louellas@endor.com> writes: > If Thurmon doesn't have him in the data base: > First, spend $27 + or - for the SS5 from the Social Security > Administration. > rootsweb.com Social Security death index has the information for > getting > this. > Also the SS number is on his California death certificate. The SS5 > gives who > Chester > says are his parents when he applied for a Social Security number. > In the 1920 census of Winters, Chester says his parents were born in > the > United > States.... not helpful! He is listed only with wife Ouida. > In the 1930 census of winters, Yolo County, ED #57-17, page 205B, > sheet 7B, > Monticello > Road > Chester H. Sackett is age 46, married at age 25, born California, > father > born Ohio > mother born California, Farmer -Fruit Farm > Ouida G. Sackett is age 40, married at age 19, born California, > parents born > California > Gibson, Martha L., mother in law, age 64, widow, born California, > father > born Ohio, > mother born Pennsylvania > (I have found that occasionally the census taker reversed the > birthplaces of > the parents > so guess flexibility is the order of the day) > Someone to look at, a Yolo county probate record perhaps or an > obituary?, is > Harry E. Sackett > age 46, married 3 times, married 2 years to wife Lena, born > California, > father > born New York, mother born Missouri, Farmer Empl.-Fruit farm in the > 1910 > census > of Winters, Yolo co., ED#184, page 223, Monticello Road > Also in 1930 census of town of Winters, ED #57-17, page 197A, sheet > 9A > Harry E. Sackett, age 66, 1st marriage age 23, born California, > father born > New York, > laborer-Farm > Lena Sackett, wife, age 51, married at age 31, born Kentucky, > parents born > Kentucky > Harry E. Sackett, son, age 16, born California > Buel A. Sackett, son, age 14, born California > Don't find Chester in the 1900 or 1910 census indexes. No other > Sacket/t in > the Yolo > County census indexes. If Harry was Chester's dad he would be a > young father > according to > all the ages & dates..18 or 19 years old. > In the 1880 census of Vacaville, Solano Co., Calif is a Harry who > could be > the one in > Winters in 1910, He is 17, born California, father Buel R. Sackett, > age 47 > born New York and > Buel's wife Archella age 20. Buel is a farmer and 17 year old Harry, > 15 year > old Herbert > and 11 year old Louis are noted as working on farm. sister Fannie is > 13 > years old. > There father's birthplace is noted as New York and their mother's > birthplace > as Missouri. > Nothing to connect Chester yet but something to shoot for. > Harry Edward Sackett, born 13 Jan 1864 in California, mother's surname Williams died Yolo County, California on 14 Oct 1942 at age 78. > Louis Sackett, born 2 Oct 1869 in California, mother's surname Williams, died Yolo County, California, 18 > Nov 1863, age 94. Frances Dinsmore, born 28 Oct 1867 in California, mother's surname Williams, father's >surname Sackett, died 21 Apr 1958 in Solano County, California, age 90. > Their obituaries might give family information. > Chester's obituary might have his parents listed also. I know > Sacramento > State Library has the > Winter's newspapers as I have gotten an obituary from them..but I > went to > the library > myself and am on the East Coast so can't do it now. > The other place to look is the Funeral home that Chester was buried > from, it > should be listed on > the death record and if in Winter's probably not too many funeral > homes. > Have found all kinds > of interesting information from the funeral homes, of course maybe > nothing > but worth a few > postage stamps. > Interestingly enough don't find Dorothy with Chester & Ouida in > either the > 1920 or 1930 > census..when was Dorothy born? Did find a Dorothy age 21, daughter > of Louis > in the Vacaville > Solano Co., California 1930 census. > > Good luck. Louella > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Debbie K Barbee [mailto:dkbarbee@juno.com] > Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 12:20 PM > To: SACKETT-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [SACKETT-L] Chester Sackett > > > > > I'm forwarding this query to the list from a new acquaintance. > Anyone > have any info. Thanks! > I looked in the book and saw a Chester A b. 1886 only. > > Deb > > Chester H.Sackett who married Ouida Gibson. Their daughter, Dorothy > Sackett married > William Lloyd Adams; Their son, Gerald Louis Adams is Kathy's > parent. The > only dates I know are Chester, born 11/15/1882, died 7/12/1971. Do > you > have > any knowledge of this Sackett. He was born in California, and owned > a > large > fruit orchard in Winters, Yolo County, California. Any suggestions > where > to > go from there? > > > ==== SACKETT Mailing List ==== > GEN-NEWBIE-L: No question is too elementary and the atmosphere is > relaxed & > friendly. 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Yes, I agree Thurmon, Clark A. Sackett was the son of Clark & Laura Aiken Sackett. I didn't have all the new information from Louella either, so was happy to get it also! Plus in the 1880 Census, he is a widow, so his first wife, Catharine Ashman, must have died before that year. Mary Lou

Louella: I don't have Chester in my database and have been unable to connect the Sacketts in Yolo co. to anyone in my database. I did find some information in the GLO/BLM records for California. Buel R. Sackett got land in 1868 and there were three Gibsons who also got land CA with a William B. Gibson's doc dated in 1869: MERIDIAN TOWNSHIP RANGE SECTION DOCID DATE NAME MD 0080N 0020W 023 2454 1868/12/01 SACKETT BUEL R MD 0110N 0030W 033 2568 1900/07/12 GIBSON BENJAMIN L MD 0100N 0010E 033 416 1875/08/30 GIBSON JOSEPH MD 0090N 0020E 005 2485 1869/08/05 GIBSON WILLIAM B Thurmon On Tue, 24 Jun 2003 20:55:44 -0400 "louella@endor.com" <louellas@endor.com> writes: > If Thurmon doesn't have him in the data base: > First, spend $27 + or - for the SS5 from the Social Security > Administration. > rootsweb.com Social Security death index has the information for > getting > this. > Also the SS number is on his California death certificate. The SS5 > gives who > Chester > says are his parents when he applied for a Social Security number. > In the 1920 census of Winters, Chester says his parents were born in > the > United > States.... not helpful! He is listed only with wife Ouida. > In the 1930 census of winters, Yolo County, ED #57-17, page 205B, > sheet 7B, > Monticello > Road > Chester H. Sackett is age 46, married at age 25, born California, > father > born Ohio > mother born California, Farmer -Fruit Farm > Ouida G. Sackett is age 40, married at age 19, born California, > parents born > California > Gibson, Martha L., mother in law, age 64, widow, born California, > father > born Ohio, > mother born Pennsylvania > (I have found that occasionally the census taker reversed the > birthplaces of > the parents > so guess flexibility is the order of the day) > Someone to look at, a Yolo county probate record perhaps or an > obituary?, is > Harry E. Sackett > age 46, married 3 times, married 2 years to wife Lena, born > California, > father > born New York, mother born Missouri, Farmer Empl.-Fruit farm in the > 1910 > census > of Winters, Yolo co., ED#184, page 223, Monticello Road > Also in 1930 census of town of Winters, ED #57-17, page 197A, sheet > 9A > Harry E. Sackett, age 66, 1st marriage age 23, born California, > father born > New York, > laborer-Farm > Lena Sackett, wife, age 51, married at age 31, born Kentucky, > parents born > Kentucky > Harry E. Sackett, son, age 16, born California > Buel A. Sackett, son, age 14, born California > Don't find Chester in the 1900 or 1910 census indexes. No other > Sacket/t in > the Yolo > County census indexes. If Harry was Chester's dad he would be a > young father > according to > all the ages & dates..18 or 19 years old. > In the 1880 census of Vacaville, Solano Co., Calif is a Harry who > could be > the one in > Winters in 1910, He is 17, born California, father Buel R. Sackett, > age 47 > born New York and > Buel's wife Archella age 20. Buel is a farmer and 17 year old Harry, > 15 year > old Herbert > and 11 year old Louis are noted as working on farm. sister Fannie is > 13 > years old. > There father's birthplace is noted as New York and their mother's > birthplace > as Missouri. > Nothing to connect Chester yet but something to shoot for. > Harry Edward Sackett, born 13 Jan 1864 in California, mother's surname Williams died Yolo County, California on 14 Oct 1942 at age 78. > Louis Sackett, born 2 Oct 1869 in California, mother's surname Williams, died Yolo County, California, 18 > Nov 1863, age 94. Frances Dinsmore, born 28 Oct 1867 in California, mother's surname Williams, father's >surname Sackett, died 21 Apr 1958 in Solano County, California, age 90. > Their obituaries might give family information. > Chester's obituary might have his parents listed also. I know > Sacramento > State Library has the > Winter's newspapers as I have gotten an obituary from them..but I > went to > the library > myself and am on the East Coast so can't do it now. > The other place to look is the Funeral home that Chester was buried > from, it > should be listed on > the death record and if in Winter's probably not too many funeral > homes. > Have found all kinds > of interesting information from the funeral homes, of course maybe > nothing > but worth a few > postage stamps. > Interestingly enough don't find Dorothy with Chester & Ouida in > either the > 1920 or 1930 > census..when was Dorothy born? Did find a Dorothy age 21, daughter > of Louis > in the Vacaville > Solano Co., California 1930 census. > > Good luck. Louella > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Debbie K Barbee [mailto:dkbarbee@juno.com] > Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 12:20 PM > To: SACKETT-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [SACKETT-L] Chester Sackett > > > > > I'm forwarding this query to the list from a new acquaintance. > Anyone > have any info. Thanks! > I looked in the book and saw a Chester A b. 1886 only. > > Deb > > Chester H.Sackett who married Ouida Gibson. Their daughter, Dorothy > Sackett married > William Lloyd Adams; Their son, Gerald Louis Adams is Kathy's > parent. The > only dates I know are Chester, born 11/15/1882, died 7/12/1971. Do > you > have > any knowledge of this Sackett. He was born in California, and owned > a > large > fruit orchard in Winters, Yolo County, California. Any suggestions > where > to > go from there? > > > ==== SACKETT Mailing List ==== > GEN-NEWBIE-L: No question is too elementary and the atmosphere is > relaxed & > friendly. GEN-NEWBIE-D: This list is the digest mode for > GEN-NEWBIE-L. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, go > to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > ==== SACKETT Mailing List ==== > RootsWeb blocks attachments. So sharing photos is not possible > through > the list; send off-list individually. If you have a text file you > wish to share, save it as text and insert the text into your > message. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >