Karen: I think you tried to confuse us in your second paragraph by putting an extra "not" into the puzzle. (:>) The death certificate for Orland/Orlen Sackett's son George does give the maiden name of George's mother as Johnson. Could it be that someone along the line assumed that because George's middle name was Steven that it had a connection to his mother's maiden name? The census and cemetery information from Ontario Co., NY does prove to be quite interesting. And when we consider the possibility that Sarah Johnson was Lucinda's mother; and that Zelotus Sackett was in Sarah's household in the 1850 census; it lends a little bit more credence to my theory that Zelotus might be the father of Orland/Orlin. It would be interesting to see if Lucy Sackett and Sarah Johnson were in the same household in the 1860 census. If they were, that would come close to confirming the connection. Thurmon On Wed, 16 Jul 2003 16:56:52 -0400 HK2016@netscape.net writes: > Why I now believe that Orland/Orlin Sackett's wife was Lucinda > Johnson: > > Pam sent for George Sackett's death certificate and gave me a copy. > It lists his mothers maiden name as not Johnson, not Stevens as we > thought. > > I was looking over old List email about our family and came across > this one from Thurmon; Subject: [SACKETT-L] Revisiting Sacketts of > Ontario Co., NY, Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003, From: > thurmonking@netscape.net that included the following, "In 1850 Orlen > Sackett is listed as being 26 years old which indicated that he was > born about 1824 in NY. Two households away in the household of > Sarah Johnson age 57, there is a Lotas/Lotus Sackett age 62 (b. abt > 1788) listed." This got me thinking about Sarah Johnson. Then I > started looking at census and cemetery records for Ontario County. > > The 1855 census also lists Orlin's family and Sarah Johnson on the > same page. By 1860, Lucinda would have been deceased and Orlin had > moved to Goodhue County, Minnesota with his younger children. Lucy, > supposedly, stayed in New York with her grandparents. > > The 1860 census for Ontario County still lists Lucy Sackett and > Sarah Johnson. They are on the same page and possibly in the same > household. > They are no longer listed together in 1865 because Lucy was married > to Charles Briggs by then. > > In Fairview Cemetery, Naples, Ontario, New York, we find Lucinda > Sackett and her parents, Sarah and Daniel Johnson (and, perhaps, her > inlaws). > JOHNSON > Sarah, wife of Daniel; died Nov 7 1865; ae 73 yrs; > Jeremiah W.; died Dec 30 1852; ae 27-6-8 > Daniel; died Apr 27 1841; in his 51st year; > SACKETT > Sabrina, wife of Zelotus; died Feb 15 1843; ae 48 yrs; > Lucinda, wife of Orlin; died Oct 23 1856; ae 29-10-6; > Zelotus; War of 1812 > > Lucy Sackett Briggs was buried in Roseridge Cemetery, Naples, > Ontario, New York. > Last Name First Maiden b-yr d-yr notes > Briggs Carrie 1867 dau of Chas T. > & Lucy > Briggs Sarah 1857 1948 2d wife of > Charles T. > Briggs Lucy Sackett 1846 1885 Wfe of Charles > T. > Briggs N. Eugene 1872 son of Chas T. > & Lucy > Briggs Charles T. 1840 1912 > > Well, that's my case. I would love to be able to confirm it, but it > looks reasonable. ---Karen > > __________________________________________________________________ > McAfee VirusScan Online from the Netscape Network. > Comprehensive protection for your entire computer. Get your free > trial today! > http://channels.netscape.com/ns/computing/mcafee/index.jsp?promo=393397 > > Get AOL Instant Messenger 5.1 free of charge. Download Now! > http://aim.aol.com/aimnew/Aim/register.adp?promo=380455 > > > ==== SACKETT Mailing List ==== > Visit the SACKETT-L Web Page at > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~sidersn/sackett > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Why I now believe that Orland/Orlin Sackett's wife was Lucinda Johnson: Pam sent for George Sackett's death certificate and gave me a copy. It lists his mothers maiden name as not Johnson, not Stevens as we thought. I was looking over old List email about our family and came across this one from Thurmon; Subject: [SACKETT-L] Revisiting Sacketts of Ontario Co., NY, Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003, From: thurmonking@netscape.net that included the following, "In 1850 Orlen Sackett is listed as being 26 years old which indicated that he was born about 1824 in NY. Two households away in the household of Sarah Johnson age 57, there is a Lotas/Lotus Sackett age 62 (b. abt 1788) listed." This got me thinking about Sarah Johnson. Then I started looking at census and cemetery records for Ontario County. The 1855 census also lists Orlin's family and Sarah Johnson on the same page. By 1860, Lucinda would have been deceased and Orlin had moved to Goodhue County, Minnesota with his younger children. Lucy, supposedly, stayed in New York with her grandparents. The 1860 census for Ontario County still lists Lucy Sackett and Sarah Johnson. They are on the same page and possibly in the same household. They are no longer listed together in 1865 because Lucy was married to Charles Briggs by then. In Fairview Cemetery, Naples, Ontario, New York, we find Lucinda Sackett and her parents, Sarah and Daniel Johnson (and, perhaps, her inlaws). JOHNSON Sarah, wife of Daniel; died Nov 7 1865; ae 73 yrs; Jeremiah W.; died Dec 30 1852; ae 27-6-8 Daniel; died Apr 27 1841; in his 51st year; SACKETT Sabrina, wife of Zelotus; died Feb 15 1843; ae 48 yrs; Lucinda, wife of Orlin; died Oct 23 1856; ae 29-10-6; Zelotus; War of 1812 Lucy Sackett Briggs was buried in Roseridge Cemetery, Naples, Ontario, New York. Last Name First Maiden b-yr d-yr notes Briggs Carrie 1867 dau of Chas T. & Lucy Briggs Sarah 1857 1948 2d wife of Charles T. Briggs Lucy Sackett 1846 1885 Wfe of Charles T. Briggs N. Eugene 1872 son of Chas T. & Lucy Briggs Charles T. 1840 1912 Well, that's my case. I would love to be able to confirm it, but it looks reasonable. ---Karen __________________________________________________________________ McAfee VirusScan Online from the Netscape Network. Comprehensive protection for your entire computer. Get your free trial today! http://channels.netscape.com/ns/computing/mcafee/index.jsp?promo=393397 Get AOL Instant Messenger 5.1 free of charge. Download Now! http://aim.aol.com/aimnew/Aim/register.adp?promo=380455

Sorry if you get two of these my emails seem to be going to some void to never be seen again :-( Anyway there is an new link to the site. The old works and the old files are still there but they are not updated. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~sackettmckayhistory/LiesasLineage/index.htm Is the new web site. The following can be found on it. Sackett’s under Civil War SacketEzeckiel SackettFrank SackettJamesK SackettSamuelS SackettThomas SackettWilliam SackettWilliamL Sackett’s under War 1812 SackettDaniel1812 SackettHenryHarvey1812 SackettJesse1812 SackettJohn1812 SackettJoseph1812 SackettLeander1812 SackettNorman1812 SackettOliner1812 Liesa Robarge List admin for SMITH-NEW-ENGLAND, Coffinger, Christian, and Tarbox http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~sackettmckayhistory/LiesasLineage/index.htm

Hi all I wanted to let you know that I have mentioned the web site before and finally realized why we were seeing two different things. For some of you it was my fault but for others you did not catch on that I gave you a new link (should have pointed it out I'm sure) anyway use the following link for the most up to date pages. It is not the way I want it to look yet but you can see all the files (let me know if you have any problems). http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~sackettmckayhistory/LiesasLineage/index.htm The following names can be found in the indicated War section. All information currently on there is from the records at the National Archives. I will have the stuff from the State Archives on soon (I have them all renamed so far, now just uploading which I can do pretty fast thanks to Thurmon) Sackett’s under Civil War SacketEzeckiel SackettFrank SackettJamesK SackettSamuelS SackettThomas SackettWilliam SackettWilliamL Sackett’s under War 1812 SackettDaniel1812 SackettHenryHarvey1812 SackettJesse1812 SackettJohn1812 SackettJoseph1812 SackettLeander1812 SackettNorman1812 SackettOliner1812 Liesa Robarge List admin for SMITH-NEW-ENGLAND, Coffinger, Christian, and Tarbox

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/ChEBAIB/171.2.3.2.1.2 Message Board Post: In response to my own old post, shortly after posting I'd learned who my Sackett HIll's parents &c were. I still have no idea why he was named-for some Sackett, that's probably lost to personal history of family associations. Hey, one of his grandsons was named for the doctor that attended the delivery of the child's elder brother, so what can I say!

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: SACKETT Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/ChEBAIB/171.2.3.2.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Judith: I have pictures of the grave site and other information For Elijah Sackett on my website at: http://freepages.books.rootsweb.com/~teking/simon/pafg21.htm#1439 The home page for the website is: http://freepages.books.rootsweb.com/~teking/ We also have Sackett Headstone pictures at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~sackettheadstones/ We are also "doing it for love and not for money". In fact, we want to keep the information free. Thurmon King

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: SACKETT Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/ChEBAIB/171.2.3.2.1.1 Message Board Post: This may not be of relevance, but... I have a photo of a historic marker located in St. Lawrence County, NY which reads as follows: GRAVESITES Two War of 1812 soldiers while on a march from Plattsburgh to Sackets Harbor, died and are buried on this historic spot. - - - - - - - The marker is at the side of what is known as "The Old Military Turnpike", and about 100 yards into the woods from it are the newly refurbished graves of Elijah Sackett who died April 13, 1813, and an "unknown". I have a scanner and can easily scan these pictures and send them to anyone with an interest, so if you're descended from the Sackett's who may have lived in northern NY State in the late 1700s - early 1800s, let me know and I'll be happy to share. (If you know of anyone else who might be interested, have them contact me. This is one of my hobbies, so I do it for love and not for money.)

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: SACKETT Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/ChEBAIB/203.2 Message Board Post: I have a photo of a historic marker located in St. Lawrence County, NY which reads as follows: GRAVESITES Two War of 1812 soldiers while on a march from Plattsburgh to Sackets Harbor, died and are buried on this historic spot. - - - - - - - The marker is at the side of what is known as "The Old Military Turnpike", and about 100 yards into the woods from it are the newly refurbished graves of Elijah Sackett who died April 13, 1813, and an "unknown". I have a scanner and can easily scan these pictures and send them to anyone with an interest, so if you're descended from the Sackett's who may have lived in northern NY State in the late 1700s - early 1800s, let me know and I'll be happy to share.

Hello again: When I sent the previous message I forgot to include one more item that Doug sent which is important: "The documents related to the probate of the will of Jedediah Cleaveland of the Town of Pompey in 1831 state that he was survived by, among others, Philinda Sackett, wife of Joseph Sackett and by Orvilla Rice, wife of Avery Rice, both of these famiies residing in Allegany County." Regards, Thurmon

Hello Sackett Searchers Last year I posted a study concerning the ancestry of Harvey Chafy Sackett and his brother Merrill Cleveland Sackett in which I disagreed with the conclusions of R. E. Sackett in "THE SACKETTS OF WISCONSIN. A BRIEF GENERAL HISTORY OF THE ANCESTORS AND DESCENDENTS OF HARVEY CHAFY SACKETT" Using census information I came to the conclusion that their father, Joseph Sackett descended from Weygant's 634-Joseph Sacket of Pittsfield, Berkshire Co., MA rather than 278-Joseph Sackett of New Haven, CT. Last month I had a note from John Sackett, who descends from Harvey C. Sackett, with information which indicated that Harvey's mother was probably Phylinda Cleveland, daughter of Jedediah Cleveland and Lydia Merrill of Berkshire Co., MA. Some searching on the internet indicated that Jedediah Cleveland moved to Onondaga Co., NY before 1810 where he is listed in the 1810 census. From the USGenWeb site for Onondaga Co., NY I found the following information for Jedediah Cleveland: Jedediah Cleveland found in: U.S. Selected Counties, 1810 Census Index State: NY County: Onondaga Co. Page #: 019 Census/Enumeration year: 1810 Age ranges in household: 12001-10101 =============================== The inhabitants in the vicinity of Oran [in Onadaga Co.. NY] were favored at a very early day with religious services by missionaries from Connecticut, the first of whom was a Rev. Mr. Perry, who preached in James Scoville's barn, and in other barns in that neighborhood. On January 27, 1806, Rev. Hugh Wallace organized a society there, which was reorganized later in the same year under the title, the Second Congregational church of the town of Pompey. Punderson Avery, Jedediah Cleveland, and Joseph Bartholomew were elected the first trustees. There the first frame house of worship in the town and the third one of any kind in the county, was built in 1807-8. In later years the Universalists, who had become quite numerous in that section, occasionally occupied the church and formed a large part of the congregation. [Source: Dwight H. Bruce (ed.), Onondaga's Centennial. Boston History Co., 1896, Vol. I, pp. 600; 626-627.] ============================== FIRST BAPTIST CHURCH Delphi, Onondaga Co., NY "List of members on page 5 dated June 1, 1805. Lemuel Hall Samuel Jones Asa Barnes Jedediah Cleveland ..." and 94 more names ============================== POMPEY Rev. Hugh WALLACE organized the society in Oran, 27th January, 1806. The society was reorganized under the title Of the "Second Congregational Society of the town of Pompey”, 6th October, 1806, when Punderson AVERY, Jedediah CLEVELAND and Joseph BARTHOLOMEW, were elected Trustees, Lemuel HALL and Jedediah CLEVELAND, presiding at the meeting. [Source: Onondaga; or Reminiscences of Earlier and Later Times, Vol. II, by Joshua V. H. Clark, A.M., Stoddard and Babcock, Syracuse, NY, 1849, pp. 241-282] ============================== UNION CONGREGATIONAL SOCIETY Towns of Manlius and Pompey Submitted by Kathy Crowell Miscellaneous Records, Onondaga County Courthouse (A,44): [3 jul 1803] This may Certafy home it may concern that at a Meeting of the freeholders and Inhabatance of the North part of the town of Pompey and South part of the town of Manlius on the fifth day of July in the Year One thousand eight hundred & three, at the house of Ebenezer Butler jr. Esquire In said town of Manlius agreeable to previous notice given according to Law for the porpus of forming a society and chuseing Trustees and Voteing the name & title of said Society - their being no proper Officer to inspect said Meeting Voted that David Olmsted & Jedediah Cleveland be the parsons to attend said Meeting and be the returning Officers agreeable to Law - Voted that the name & stile of the Society be Union Congregational Society - Voted that Ebenezer Butler junr., Ralph R. Phelps, Daniel Campbell, Joseph Strong, Elijah Rust, Jeremiah Gould, Aaron Woods, Nathaniel Weston and Jacobus DePuy be the Trustees of said Society agreeable to Law. Given under our hands and seals the day & year above written Jedediah Cleveland, David Olmsted. Signed, Sealed & Delivered In presence of N.B. the name & stile of the Society wrote on a tasuer(?) and intelined before signed Ebenr. Butler Jr., Wm. Olmsted. Be it remembered that on the fifty day of July in the Year of our Lord One thousand eight hundred & three parsonaly appeared before me Ebenezer Butler Jr. one of the Judges of the Courts of Common pleas in and for the County of Onondaga David Olmsted & Jedediah Cleveland the within Signer parsons to me known to be the parsons described in and who have executed the within Surtificet(?) who acknowledged that they signed, sealed and delivered the same as their Valantary Act and Deed for the uses and popuses therein mentioned. I haveing acsamined the same and finding no meteral alteration or interlination more then those noted do alow the same to be recorded. Ebenr. Butler Jun. Recorded the seventh day of December Eighteen hundred & three. Jasper Hopper Clk. Then this past Sunday I received a phone call from Douglas Hickling, researcher in California whose wife descends from Merrill Cleveland Sackett. Today he sent me information which closes some more gaps for us: "In 1993, Eugene W. Babcock of Lexington, Kentucky, was granted membership in the Mayflower Society based upon his descent from William Bradford, Governor of the Plymouth Colony and passenger on the Mayflower in 1620, through his descent from Joseph Sackett. As I had provided him information showing the connection between Bradford and the Sacketts, he was very grateful to me and sent me a copy of his application packet." "The line of descent from William Bradford goes: 1. William Bradford, 2. William Bradford who married Alice Richards, 3. Alice Bradford who married James Fitch, 4. Lucy Fitch who married Henry Cleveland, 5. William Cleveland who married Rachel Warren, 6. Jedediah Cleveland who married Lydia Merrill, 7. Philinda Cleveland who married Joseph Sackett, 8. Merrill Cleveland Sackett who married Sarah Emily Rice, 9. Clara Philinda Sackett who married Wilbert Simmons, 10. Rose Jane Simmons who married Frank Edward Babcock, 11. Wilbert Edward Babcock who married Julia Florence Twitchell, and 12. Eugene Wayne Babcock." "Mr. Babcock attached an entry from INDEX TO WAR OF 1812 PENSION FILES vol. 3:N-Z transcribed by Vigil D. White, which on page 1536 lists Joseph Sackett "SC-2691, srv Capt Kellogg's Co. NY Mil." Also attached was a complete copy of the contents of file SC-2691. The princial document is the sworn application, dated 17 March 1871, in which Joseph Sackett swears that he is 78 years old, and a resident of Wellsville, Allegany County. He states further that his wife was "Philinda Cleaveland to whom he was married at Pompey N Y on the [blank] day of January AD 1814," he was in the service for sixty days and was in the battle of Queenston. In case you are not aware of it, the British (Canadians) repulsed the American forces at Queenston in 1812 under the leadership of a General Brock" Insofar as it appears that 634-Joseph Sackett was also in the 1810 census for Onondaga Co., NY, it looks as though he might have migrated from Pittsfield, Berkshire Co., MA at about the same time as Jedediah Cleveland. After Joseph, Jr. had served in the War of 1812 he returned to Onondaga Co. where he married Phylinda Cleveland in January 1814. By 1820; 634-Joseph Sackett and his son, Joseph Jr. were located in Ontario Co., NY. Regards, Thurmon

The tale about me trying to strike a match with the 22 cal. rifle brought to mind a couple of other episodes involving matches. Going back in time to 1935 when I was 5-6 years old; we're at the place where we lived on the west side of Love Valley. For Christmas my older brother Donal and I got cap pistols. Of course, we had a ball playing cowboys and Indians, as well as good guys and bad guys. But our fun was somewhat deminished when we ran out of caps for the cap pistols. So we simulated the shooting by making a noise with our mouths. Then Donal discovered that he could take one of the kitchen matches and remove the striking tip off the match using his teeth. He would then place the match tip in the cap pistol. This was good for one shot for each match tip and really slowed down the games. Donal then decided that it was more fun to sit on the old engine block that was used as a step for the front porch and use a hammer to pop the match tips. Well, it was fun until we realized that we had used up a whole box of matches and Mother had none left for her to use to start a fire in the cook stove. And when she discovered what we had done ... The fun was REALLY over !! Another incident which involved just me was during the summer when my Dad's younger brother, Glen was living with us. Uncle Glen had a pencil sharpener attached to the wall near his bed. This "contraptioin" fascinated me. But it was "off limits" to me. But as things worked out there came a day when when everyone was out working and I was at the house alone; so I got some sticks and sharpened them and was generally having fun until I stuck a match, head first, into the pencil sharpener and turned the handle. Well ... The house didn't burn down. In fact I managed to frantically bring the flash fire under contorl after the pencil shavings and the plastic cover were consumed. So they were the only things that did burn ... Other than my rear end ... after Dad got home and learned what I had done He used his razor strap to whip me and I think it was the worse whipping I ever received. A hard way to learn a lesson. Thurmon

Dear Brian, I have added your name to the list of founding members of The Sackett Family Association. Am sending this to the List as direct mails to bsackett@in-tch.com keep bouncing. Regards, Chris Sackett Acting Registrar The Sackett Family Association

I have found a Simon Sackett and a Mahala Sackett mentioned in a book about the History of Goodhue Co, Mn - 1893 http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/mn/goodhue/goodhue.html I'm not sure who these two Sacketts are but I'm wondering if the Mahala Sackett could be the same one mentioned in MaryLou's family tree. The age seems about right. Pam Schuster Offerdahl

While checking out the update to The SACKETT-L Discussion List Home Page; I notice this entry: (Name Not Known) lilliansca2001@yahoo.com No Subbed/Unsubbed Winter 2002 "Is of the belief that Heman, Roswell and Jame H. SACKETT, from Herkimer County, New York, were criminals who took up the Sackett name in order to hide from the law and then came west to distance themselves even more. Can only find mention of them in the 1850 census for that county and state. There is a record of Roswell marrying but after the census there is nothing more except in California. It is said that Roswell went back to New York but I still haven't been able to find him." -------- I did some searching on the USGenWeb site for Herkimer Co., NY and found the following information for this couple and Heman and James Sackett: 1850 Federal Population Census for the Town of Wilmurt, HERKIMER COUNTY House 18, Family 19 SACKETT, Herman, 25, m, farmer, $200, NY ....Phoebe Ann, 25, f, NY ....Edward A., 3, m, NY ....George M., 2, m, NY STEVENS, Abram, 18, m, laborer, NY ....Rusell, 10, m, NY, attended school within the year House 19, Family 20 SACKETT, James H., 22, m, NY ....Sarah, 18, f, NY ....Josephine, 1/12, f, NY House 17, Family 18 SACKETT, Roswell, 25, m, farmer, $300, NY ....Jane, 27, f, NY ....George A., 1/12, m, NY http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyherkim/webb/vitals.html 1847 - 1849 Vital Records Town of Wilmurt [marriages] SACKETT, Roswell R., Jane KELLOGG, Nov 12, 1848 --------- http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyherkim/ohio/ohiodir.html DIRECTORY OF THE TOWN OF OHIO 1869 -1870 Sackett, Roswell Town: (Ohio) farmer 60 ----------- http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyherkim/census/1870Ohio2.html 1870 Federal Census Town of Ohio, Herkimer County, NY Transcribed by Joanne Murray 21/21 Sackett, R.R. 48 M W Lumberman NY Jane 49 F W NY Charles W. 16 M W NY Kellogg, Martha 93 F W New Hampshire ----------- http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyherkim/regiments/1880herkpension2.html PENSIONERS OF HERKIMER COUNTY, N.Y. On the Roll on January 1, 1883 No. of certificate; Name of pensioner; Post-office address; Cause for which pensioned; Monthly rate; Date of original allowance 184, 362 Sackett, Jane Ohio widow 8.00 June, 1879 ------------- http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyherkim/cemeteries/ohiocem3.html OHIO CEMETERY Updated by Sandi Gates and Leatrice Doolen September 8 and 9, 2000 Sackett Byron Dec 3, 1882 44 yrs Caroline J. Apr 11, 1883 62 yrs, 1 mo., 24 days hus Roswell Clara A. May 12, 1862 4 yrs, 1 mo., 4 days daug/Roswell & Jane Roswell Sept. 7, 1878 54 yrs, 7 mo. Co C 81 st Regt. NY Vol.; wf Caroline J. Sarah A. Flansburg Jan 30, 1858 25 yrs, 3 mo., 13 days wf James H. Sackett ---------- http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyherkim/cemeteries/ilioncem2.html VILLAGE OF ILION CEMETERY, Pt. 2 TOWN OF GERMAN FLATTS, HERKIMER COUNTY Village of Ilion SACKETT, James W., 1839 - 1905 **************** Does anyone have information as to where these people connect to the larger Sackett family? Thurmon

Yesterday I did a search of the Ashland County website at USGenWeb and found several members of the family of Harvey Sackett and Thalia Eldred listed in the cemetery transcriptions for the Ruggles Township Cemetery. SACKETT - Abigail Gates w/o Mason died 1891 age 63y SACKETT - Almina Stout w/o Charley G. 1856 - 1903 SACKETT - Artie E. King w/o J. Harvey 1855 - 1901 SACKETT - Charley G. 1854 - 1931 SACKETT - E. Mason died 1912 age 89y SACKETT - E. Tanner 1821 - 1910 SACKETT - Erastus infant 1855 SACKETT - Eva M. 1858 - 1936 SACKETT - Ezra C. 1848 - 1850 SACKETT - Frank I. 1861 - 1862 SACKETT - Harriett A. 1867 - 1915 SACKETT - Harvey died 1875 age 84y SACKETT - infant dau. 1850 SACKETT - Lucretia L. Lyon w/o E. 1825 - 1901 SACKETT - Thalia E. w/o Harvey died 1843 age 48y I've been able to identify all but two of the Sacketts listed: 1. SACKETT - Artie E. King w/o J. Harvey 1855 - 1901 This appears to be a wife of 3840-Justus Harvey Sackett, son of 1520-Harvey Sackett and his 2nd wife, Mary VanVranken. However, Weygant gives the name of his wife as Irene Beach (married 10 Nov 1869). Due to the fact that Artie E. King lived until 1901 it would appear that she might have been a 2nd wife of J. Harvey. But the cemetery does not appear to have a grave for Irene (Beach) Sackett. Does anyone have information that will help clear this up? 2. SACKETT - Eva M. 1858 - 1936 This appears to be a daughter of one of 1512-Harvey's sons. 3837-Erastus Tanner Sackett is shown as having a son Harmon Merit Sackett born 25 May 1858, so unless this child was misidentified, or was a twin, Erastus T. would seem to be eliminated. 3838-Erasmus Mason Sackett has children born in 1854 and 1859 so there is a possibility that he was the father of Eva M. Sackett 1858-1936. According to the 1850 census 1512-Harvey had three other sons for whom we have no other information: Year: 1850; State: OH; County: Ashland; Township: Ruggles Roll: M432_658 Page: 507 152/152 Sackett, Harrey 59 m farmer CT [Sackett], Mary 47 f NY Van Rankin, Sumia 23 f NY Sackett, Harmon 18 m farmer NY Sackett, Robert 15 m farmer OH Sackett, Triphena 12 f OH Sackett, Ganet 10 m OH Sackett, Justus 2 m OH Harmon and Robert both could have been married and had a son born by 1858. But I have found no records for them. Anyone with information, or suggestions? Thurmon

Brian, My reply to you below bounced with the message: ------Transcript of session follows ------- bsackett@in-tch.com 451 Can't connect to in-tch.com - psmtp So I'm sending it through SACKETT-L. This will give others an opportunity to latch onto the future prospects of a DNA Group Study candidate as well. Later...Nancy Nancy Cluff Siders Acting TSFA President and List Admin To forget one's ancestors is to be a brook without a source, a tree without a root. ~Chinese proverb -----Original Message----- From: Nancy CLUFF Siders [mailto:siders@cableone.net] Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 8:59 PM To: bsackett@in-tch.com Cc: Thurmon King; Myself Subject: FW: [SACKETT-L] RE: A SACKETT Milestone I HAD to share with everyone!! Brian, Thanks for your addendum to your profile on the web page. Interesting! I went back out on Thurmon's sites and found the following discussion at: http://freepages.books.rootsweb.com/~teking/john-2/714-aaron.html Sending it so JIC you may not have seen it. You are SO correct!! The DNA study may be just the solution to the obviously OLD questions - John, Simon or neither!! I have the web page updated. See if you like it! Let me know what needs changed if you don't. Later...Nancy Nancy Cluff Siders Acting TSFA President and List Admin If you get up one more time than you fall, you will make it through. ~Chinese Proverb -----Original Message----- From: Brian Sackett [mailto:bsackett@in-tch.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 10:51 AM To: siders@cableone.net Subject: Re: [SACKETT-L] RE: A SACKETT Milestone I HAD to share with everyone!! Nancy Here is what I have from Aaron on. Aaron Sackett (1767 - 1830) m. Phoebe Hart (1764 - ?) Charles Sackett (1793 - 1879) m. Salome Bascom (1795 - 1869) Edmund Sackett (1830 - 1897) m. Perscilla Watson (1830 - 1908) Burt A. Sackett (1866 - 1944) m. Mary E. Clark Vincent (1882 - 1941) Homer J. Sackett (1914 - 2001) m. Dolores R. Harrison (1913 - 1987) Brian H. Sackett (1937 - ) m. Erika Miller (1938 - ) We reside in Kalispell, Montana Our handed down version, of the family history has Aaron as the son of Benjamin Sacket (174) who goes back to Simon. So a DNA test might answer three questions, Simon, John or neither. Brian Nancy CLUFF Siders wrote: -----Original Message----- From: Brian Sackett [mailto:bsackett@in-tch.com] Sent: Friday, February 07, 2003 11:14 AM To: SACKETT-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [SACKETT-L] DNA Study I wouldn't fit for the Simon test, but would definitely be a candidate for the Aaron (714) issue Brian ====================================================================== Folks! Now, in updating the Subscribers page at SACKETT-L web site, I find I owe Brian SACKETT a HUGE apology!! He wrote the above message in February, when we were discussing the possibility for a DNA Group Study. I didn't take the time to find out who Aaron (714) was at that time. Today I find that Aaron is the descendant of Josiah Crego, Richard, Jonathan, John, and John, The Colonist!! Another milestone and has already indicated he would definitely be a candidate for the DNA test!!! Brian, you are now on the web site as a DNA candidate! Feel free to send me from Aaron to you and I'll include that too! If I remember correctly, there has been some discussion in the past as to whether or not Josiah Crego was Richard's actual son or a step son...? Something like that...? BUT the DNA test would be a sure fire way to prove or disprove his connection to SACKETT's! Dah! Sometimes Nancy just moves too fast and misses the whole point on things!!! :{ Later...Nancy

Well some of you know that I am in NY and while here checking on some War of 1812 records. I should get them loaded soon, since there are only 1-2 pages with each of the people I found but in the mean time here is a list of the Sackett's I found while there (this is all the Sackett's in the State Archives) Zelotus William William Philo Norman Jonathan Joseph Marvin Ezekiel Anson Liesa

Nancy could you change my e-mail address on the list to update it. The address is now frandi@charter.net I no longer get mail at the other address. Thank you Diane Francis > > SACKETT-L > <http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~sidersn/sackett> > >has been updated for the first time in well over six >months. Please be my >tester and check out your listing. If old info, in error >or not in >existance >at all, please provide the information and I will fix >your listing ASAHP. > >This link is keeping track of major ancestor lines, >Founding Members of >SACKETT-L as well as TSFA information and DNA volunteers. > Again, let me >know if I've erred in any way. If there is anything you >do not understand >from missing previous messages, again, send a message to >me and I'll be >happy to attempt to explain. > >Those who have notified me that they are away on vacation >have been left >on the link although they are actually not subscribed as >well as those >temporarily unsubscribed due to illness. We currently >have three such >cousins I'm counting on to resubscribe again soon. > > >Later...Nancy >Nancy Cluff Siders ><siders@cableone.net> >Acting TSFA President and List Admin for: >CLUFF-L, COUNTRYMAN-L, LETSON-L, MCKAY-ELKENNY-L, >SACKETT-L, SIDERS-L >To forget one's ancestors is to be a brook without a >source, >a tree without a root. ~Chinese proverb > > >==== SACKETT Mailing List ==== >Tried the RootsWeb Archives and Search Engine on the Web >yet...? > http://lists.rootsweb.com/~archiver/lists/ > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online >genealogy records, go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > <TEXTAREA NAME="Signature" ROWS="4" COLS="60">

A few weeks ago I posted a query concerning the marriages of Leander Sackett. As a result of that query Mary Lou Sackett and I have exchanged a bunch of emails exchanging information and our thoughts concerning that information. We have determined that Weygant was in error concerning the date and place of Leander's 3 Jan 1821 marriage to Rebecca Conant. And Weygant did not have Leander's 2nd marriage abt. 1829-1830 to Elizabeth "Eliza" Conant. The following bio is what we have put together for the life of Leander; 1513-Leander Sackett (1795-1869) Compiled Thurmon King and Mary Lou Sackett Written by Thurmon E. King Leander Sackett was the 5th child and 3rd son of Dea. Salmon Sackett and Mercy Matilda Curtis; born 20 Apr 1794 at Warren, Litchfield Co., CT. When his father moved the family from Warren, CT to Tallmadge, Portage Co., OH in 1811; Leander was 16 years old. When he turned 21 his father gave him some land off the east side of Lot No. 2 on Tract 15. However, he was not inclined to farm the land and worked by the month for others in the area. Bronson says of him; "He was one that could chop, roll logs, split rails, and lay up rail fence, and reap the grain with a sickle." ... "Mr. Sackett, in his younger days, was inclined to be positive, and was outspoken, and some what impulsive, he was not always judicious in his remarks; and at times made himself trouble which with caution might have been avoided. After he left Tallmadge, in 1822 he would return and spend a day or two among his friends and old acquaintance[sic], but for many of the last years of his life he did not visit Tallmadge." During the War of 1812; Leander Sacket and Norman Sacket served in Capt. Rial McArthur's Company from August 22 until October 29, 1812. Part of this company also served from April 27 until May 22, 1813. Interestingly, Leander Sackett and Harvey Sackett are listed in Capt. Samuel Hale's Company which served from August 22 until October 3, 1812. The beginning dates of the service under Capt. McArthur and Capt Hale are the same while Capt. McArthur's campaign was 21 days longer. This could indicate that some of the men under Capt. Hale transferred to Capt. McArthur when Capt. Hale's Company service came to an end. According to Bronson, Leander began a course of study, in 1812, with Elizur Wright, Esq. to prepare for service in some mission field. We are not sure whether he started his study with Elizur Wright before, or after his service in the War of 1812. And we have no record of what Leander did between his military service of April and May, 1813 and his 1st marriage in 1821. On 3 Jan 1821 he was married, in Portage Co., to Rebecca Conant of Windham, Portage Co., OH by Rev. Joseph Treat. Rebecca was the daughter of Thatcher Conant and his wife Elizabeth. The Conants moved from Windham, CT to Windham, OH between 2 May and 28 Jul 1811. Between 1811 and her marriage in 1821 Rebecca served along with Elizabeth Streator as a school teacher in Windham. In March, 1821 Leander, and probably Rebecca, went to Pittsburg where he enlisted as boatman for a Mission known as "The Great Osage Mission" which embarked in two boats going down the Ohio River to the Mississippi River and up that river to the Missouri River and up it to the Osage River and up it to where the mission station was established. It is not clear whether Leander remained at the mission station for any length of time, or served only as a boatman and returned to Pittsburg. Bronson states that in 1822 a mission was organized under the United Missionary Society to establish a mission among the Indians on the Maumee River, some 30 miles above Toledo, OH, near the site of Maumee City. And that Leander and Rebecca joined that mission in some capacity. The histories of Toledo, Lucas County and Wood County, Ohio give an account of the mission station: Among the more prominent of early Christian workers in the Maumee Valley, was Reverend Isaac Van Tassel. Born in Durham, New York, 1791, he came to Ashtabula, Ohio, in 1821. In the Summer of 1822 he was appointed to the Maumeee Mission by the Western Missionary Society at Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, and was the first of the Mission force on the ground. In September, 1822, at Ashtabula, Ohio, Mr. Van Tassel was married with Miss Lucia Badger, daughter of Reverend Joseph Badger. They landed at Maumee, October 27, 1822. Mr. Van Van Tassel proceeded to the Mission house, located nine miles up the River at the mouth of Tontogany Creek, the Island also belonging to the Mission grounds, which, beside the Island, embraced 240 acres. The Mission building consisted of a log house, 16x60 feet. The Mission family embraced 13 members, beside employes. The balance of the family having meantime arrived, work with the poor Ottawas was commenced November 26, 1822. The family consisted of Reverend Samuel Tate, wife and son ; Reverend Alvah Coe and wife ; Reverend Isaac Van Tassel and wife; Leander Sacket (the mission farmer) and Rebecca his wife; John McPherrin (carpenter) ; Mr. Straight (blacksmith) ; Miss Sabina Stevens and Miss Hannah Riggs. The distinctive work of the Mission was the instruction of the young of the tribe in the English language, rather than reaching adults through their own language. Mrs. Sackett opened the school for Indian children, and "taught the red urchins" for a few weeks, when she retired from that department of the work. Mrs. Lucia B. VanTassel taught there for a year. She was followed by other teachers who saw a class of half a dozen increased to thirty out of fifty enrolled pupils. The adults were not neglected, the Missionaries preaching to them as best they could through interpreters. At first, they were shy and distrustful ; but soon became more confiding. Some 30 were believed to have been converted. The work might have been more successful, but for the opposition made to it by neighboring Indian traders, whose traffic was most profitable when they were left to deal with the Indians without interference such as Missionary work inevitably caused. The Indians are spoken of as kindly in their intercourse and specially grateful for favors shown them. In 1826 the Mission was taken in charge by the American Board of Foreign Missions, and Mr. Van Tassel was appointed superintendent. Leander's obituary says that the Mission was abandoned in 1829 while the History of Wood Co., OH gives 1834 as the year the Mission was abandoned after the government relocated the Indians to Kansas and Nebraska. During the years the Mission was in operation Leander is found listed in the 1826 Tax list for Perrysburg Twp., Wood Co., OH for his Personal Property. He is also listed as one of the trustees of Perrysburg Twp., Wood County in 1827 and as one of the commissioners of Wood County from 1828-1830. According to an article in the Charleston Observer; Leander's wife, Rebecca, died April 12, 1828 at Windham, Portage Co., OH and she was said to have been "late of the Mission family at the Maumee." However, the Conant family genealogy gives the location of her death as at the mission. We have a record of only one child born to Leander and Rebecca, a son, Samuel M. Sackett b. 21 Oct 1825; probably at the Maumee Mission Station. While it is not clear whether or not Rebecca returned to Windham, Portage Co., OH before her death; we do know that Leander is found in the records of Wood Co., OH in the years following Rebecca's death. As stated above, Leander served as a commissioner of Wood Co. from 1828-1830. Had he not been present in the county during this period, he doubtless would have been replaced as commissioner. >From his obituary we learn that some time between the death of Rebecca in 1828 and the closure of the Mission Station, Leander married Elizabeth "Eliza" Conant, b. 9 Dec 1799 at Mansfield, Tolland Co., CT, daughter of Eleazer Conant and Elizabeth Cummins. According to records in the LDS IGI Eleazer and Elizabeth were married in 1792 at Mansfield, Tolland Co., CT and that both died at Maumee, Lucas Co., OH. His death is given as 13 Sep 1819 and hers is given as 12 Sep 1819. From the place of their death, there is a possibility that the Conants were part of the mission family, or staff. Some time after his marriage to Elizabeth, Leander migrated to Michigan. His obituary says that he made the move in 1832 or 1833 from Maumee City to Monroe Co., MI; where he operated a hotel known as "Mansion House" at LaPlaisance Bay, the present site of Monroe, MI. The hotel was located on the south side of the River Raisin where it empties into Lake Erie. It had the advantage of being the first, and best, stop for people who came in from the east, through the Erie Canal. On November 24, 1835 Leander received Patent on 81.41 acres in Twp. 5S; R6E (Land records of Monroe Co., MI) On June 15, 1837 Leander Sackett with Claudius Sackett bought 80 acres from the Federal Government described as W1/2NW; Sec. 33; Twp. 7S; MPM [Document #10459]. Claudius is believed to be the son of Norman Sackett, Leander's brother. Norman's wife died in 1827 and his children were placed in the homes of his brothers and sisters. On August 5, 1837, Claudius C. Sackett bought more GLO land in Monroe Co. [Document #12344] In the 1840 census for Raisinville, Monroe Co., MI Leander is listed with his wife and two children; boy age 15-20 [Samuel M. b. 1825] and a daughter age 5-10 [Martha J. b. 1835]. Also listed in his household are two males age 20-30 and two females age 20-30. The two males age 20-30 are believed to have been Leander's nephews, Horatio Northrup Sackett (b. 1812) and Claudius Cook Sackett (b. 1813), sons of Leander's brother Norman. While the two females age 20-30 would possibly be their wives. According to a book with the headstone transcriprions for the Sackett (aka King) Cemetery on South Custer Rd., Raisinville Twp., Monroe Co., MI; the land for the cemetery was donated by Leonard (Leander) Sackett about 1840. When Leander died he was buried in this cemetery. There is an account of an 1844 incident recorded in Bulkley's "History of Monroe Co., MI" concerning the county sheriff, General Humphrey, and Leander Sackett constituting themselves "a committee with unlimited powers" when three boxes of money being transported by stagecoach from Detroit to the Bank of Monroe were stolen from the back luggage compartment, called the "boot," of the stagecoach. Upon investigation the sheriff determined that the money boxes had disappeared while the stage was stopped for a change of horses, and a meal for the passengers, at a tavern operated by a Mr. Bass at Monguagon Creek. Mr. Bass appears to have been a man of questionable character so General Humphrey took Leander Sackett and they went immediately to the home of Mr. Bass. Mr. Bass denied having any knowledge of the missing money boxes. But being confident that Bass was "their man" they took him into the woods across from his house and tied him to a tree and whipped him until he finally confessed and returned the money boxes. One can only wonder what the outcome would have been had Mr. Bass been innocent. By 1850 Leander's household was enumerated as consisting of Leander age 54, his wife Eliza C. age 57, and their daughter Artha [Martha] J. age 15, born in MI. In the 1860 census for Raisinville Twp., Monroe Co., MI Dwelling 1080 Leander Sackett age 66 born CT Eliza (Conant) Sackett age 63 born CT Obituary for Leander Sackett: [Note: Considering the information above, one will notice that there are some errors in the obituary. TK] "Leander Sackett, an old, well known and highly esteemed resident of Monroe County, died at his residence in Raisinville, on Thursday Sept. 2nd, after a protracted illness of tumor in the stomach. Mr. Sackett was born in Windham, Connecticut, in April 1794, and was therefore in the 76th year of his age. His father's family removed from Connecticut to the Western Reserve, in Ohio, when he was a lad of ten or twelve years, the trip being made with ox teams, and occupying six or eight weeks. In 1822 Mr. Sackett, having then married, came to Maumee with his wife, and associated with Mr. Vantosole, established an Indian Mission, some 30 miles above Toledo. Here he remained until 1829, when the Station was abandoned; the Indians having been removed farther west. He then resided some three or four years at Maumee City, during which time he married Miss Eliza Conant, having lost his first wife while at the Mission Station. In 1832 or 33 he removed to Monroe, where he remained until 1836, as proprietor of the old Mansion House, the leading Hotel; which occupied the present site of Dansard's Bank. Mr. Sackett then removed to a farm on the banks of the River Raisin, in Raisinville, where he spent the remainder of his days. He was a man of great energy and activity, with an unusual developement of hopeful enthusiasm; and became intimately connected with every movement for the benefit or improvement of the town or community, frequently neglecting his own interests and bearing burdens alone that should have been shared by others. In 1852 Mr. Sackett was a delegate to the Buffalo Convention that formed the Free Soil Party, and since the formation of the Republican Party he has been an enthusiastic and earnest advocate of its principles. He leaves a wife and one son --S.M. Sackett, Druggist, of this City." ======== Sources ========= [These sources have been provided by: Maxine Chapin, Charlie Lewis, Katherine Russell, Mary Lou Sackett, and from internet searches. 1. Bronson, Charles C. (1805-1886); "The History of Tallmadge, Ohio; Vol 2, p.103 [10 handwritten volumes.] 2. Adjutant General of Ohio; "Roster of Ohio soldiers in the War of 1812"; A Heritage Classic; pgs. 110, 120 3. Marriage Index: Selected Counties of Ohio, 1789-1850; FHL Film #s 0891357-0891358. 4. Marriage and Death Notices; Charleston Observer, 1827-1830; Issue of April 26, 1828, page 21 [The Charleston Observer was a denominational newspaper based in Charleston, South Carolina, in the early Nineteenth Century.] 5. Maumee, Ohio, by Mrs. Isaac Van Tassel (Lucia Badger). 6. Historical Record of Wood Co., OH, (c. 1897), Vol. 1, pg. 93, 356, 358. 7. History of Toledo and Lucas County; Early Mission Work on the Maumee River; Ch I, p. 583. 8. History of Windham, Portage County, Ohio [Ohio History website] 9. J. M. Bulkley, History of Monroe Co., Michigan, (Vol. 1, 1913), p. 333, "Troublous Days of Travel." 10. Talcott E. Wing, editor, History of Monroe Co., MI, (c. 1890), 449. 11. "Monroe Commercial," 1880. 12. F. O. Conant, History & Genealogy of the Conant Family, (c. 1887), p. 247, 533. 13. Van Tassel, Charles Sumner; "Story of the Maumee Valley, Toledo, and the Sandusky Region; Chicago, S.J. Clarke Pub. Co., 1929, p. 724-727. 14. Government Land Office/BLM Land records for Michigan: http://www.glorecords.blm.gov/ 15. Federal censuses for 1840, 1850, 1860 [Also indexed in MI Terr. 1830 & 1834] 16. Early Ohio Tax Records; 1787-1840 Land and Tax Records, page 434.

I am forwarding this on to the group in case anybody would like to attend. Fred Hi everyone, Thought I'd send along a copy the newsletter article for the Noble family reunion in Westfield this Sept. Hope to hear some of you will be able to attend. The Nobles are coming, the Nobles are coming!! The descendants of Thomas and Hannah [Warriner] Noble will hold a reunion in Westfield September 5th, 6th & 7th. Friday, the 5th, there will be an informal gathering at the front door of the Athenaeum at 11 a.m. From there we will go visit the Mechanic Street Cemetery followed by a 'picnic in the park'. Saturday a.m. we'll visit the Pine Hill Cemetery then at 3 p.m. meet at the United Church of Christ --the church where Thomas and Hannah and family worshiped --at 487 Western--stay for a catered dinner and an evening of exchanging information and getting to know each other better. Sunday will start off with the worship service at the church followed by lunch at a nearby restaurant. All those who are related to this family are invited to attend!! Please RSVP by August 10th to Carol [Noble] Benner either by mail: 8677 Cook Street, Montague, MI 49437-1114; e-mail : cbenner174@aol.com; phone: 231-894-6651. Carol