In a message dated 7/21/03 10:23:01 AM Central Daylight Time, thurmonking@juno.com writes: > I wouldn't cout him out as being the one in this census Thurmon, Thanks !! I'm gettting tired of being from an "Orphan" family . :) Pam

No, it doesn't give any occupation for Lucy in the 1860. As I said Lucy and Sarah are in sequence in the census but Lucy is listed as last in the Wiserdall household and Sarah listed as first in next household. OK, will try some more spellings for Zelotus. Louella -----Original Message----- From: JOfferdahl@aol.com [mailto:JOfferdahl@aol.com] Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 7:29 AM To: SACKETT-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SACKETT-L] Orlin Sackett's Wife In a message dated 7/20/03 9:27:36 PM Central Daylight Time, louellas@endor.com writes: > For what it is worth..this looks like Zelotus in the 1860 census > Cohocton, Steuben Co., NY, page 654, Aug 1860 > household #127, family #119 > Jas.R. Porter, age 27, born N.York > Caroline M. " , age 22, " > Eva W. " , age 2, " > Viola E. " , age 7/12, " > Zellatus Sackett, age 84, born Mass., Carpenter I don't believe this is the same Zelotas. Thurmon, from his military records, has Zelotas as being 72 yrs of age in 1859. I also believe he was living in Ontario Co. at the time. I wish it was him. It would have given us more of a clue as to where he came from. I'm also curious, in the 1860 census from Naples, Ontario Co, you stated that Lucy Sackett was living with Edwin and Harriett Wiserdall. Does it happen to say if she's a servant , boarder, or anything? Pam ==== SACKETT Mailing List ==== RootsWeb blocks HTML formatting in email messages. Be sure to set your email software to text only before posting a message to the list. ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Pam: I had the same thought when I read the census info Louella sent. But when I checked for the location of Cohocton, NY I found that it is only about 10 miles from Naples, Ontario Co., NY. And I have run across the problem of ages of individuals being reported wrong in the census before. If you check the census info for Zelotas I have posted you will see that there was a previous census in which the age bracket for him was off by 10 years. So, I wouldn't cout him out as being the one in this census. Especially when he had such unique name. Thurmon On Mon, 21 Jul 2003 07:28:47 EDT JOfferdahl@aol.com writes: > In a message dated 7/20/03 9:27:36 PM Central Daylight Time, > louellas@endor.com writes: > > > For what it is worth..this looks like Zelotus in the 1860 census > > Cohocton, Steuben Co., NY, page 654, Aug 1860 > > household #127, family #119 > > Jas.R. Porter, age 27, born N.York > > Caroline M. " , age 22, " > > Eva W. " , age 2, " > > Viola E. " , age 7/12, " > > Zellatus Sackett, age 84, born Mass., Carpenter > > I don't believe this is the same Zelotas. Thurmon, from his military > records, > has Zelotas as being 72 yrs of age in 1859. I also believe he was > living in > Ontario Co. at the time. I wish it was him. It would have given us > more of a > clue as to where he came from. > I'm also curious, in the 1860 census from Naples, Ontario Co, you > stated that > Lucy Sackett was living with Edwin and Harriett Wiserdall. Does it > happen to > say if she's a servant , boarder, or anything? > Pam

In a message dated 7/20/03 9:27:36 PM Central Daylight Time, louellas@endor.com writes: > For what it is worth..this looks like Zelotus in the 1860 census > Cohocton, Steuben Co., NY, page 654, Aug 1860 > household #127, family #119 > Jas.R. Porter, age 27, born N.York > Caroline M. " , age 22, " > Eva W. " , age 2, " > Viola E. " , age 7/12, " > Zellatus Sackett, age 84, born Mass., Carpenter I don't believe this is the same Zelotas. Thurmon, from his military records, has Zelotas as being 72 yrs of age in 1859. I also believe he was living in Ontario Co. at the time. I wish it was him. It would have given us more of a clue as to where he came from. I'm also curious, in the 1860 census from Naples, Ontario Co, you stated that Lucy Sackett was living with Edwin and Harriett Wiserdall. Does it happen to say if she's a servant , boarder, or anything? Pam

For what it is worth..this looks like Zelotus in the 1860 census Cohocton, Steuben Co., NY, page 654, Aug 1860 household #127, family #119 Jas.R. Porter, age 27, born N.York Caroline M. " , age 22, " Eva W. " , age 2, " Viola E. " , age 7/12, " Zellatus Sackett, age 84, born Mass., Carpenter Louella -----Original Message----- From: Thurmon E. King [mailto:thurmonking@juno.com] Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2003 8:52 PM To: SACKETT-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SACKETT-L] Orlin Sackett's Wife Liesa sent me copies ot the three pages of the file for Zelotus/Zelotas Sackett. And it doesn't help very much. It is primarily a document settling up his pay for his service in Company commanded by Capt. Leonard Kellogg part of the Manlius Rifle Batalion of Militia commanded by Maj. Charles Mosely. It is dated 26 Sep 1859 and states the Zelotas is 72 years old. He had a Land Warrant #16532 for 80 acres. He signed his name as ZELOTAS SACKETT It is not clear that Zelotas ever claimed his 80 acres and a search of the probate court index in Ontario Co. gives no listing for Zelotas [or Simon/Simon Z.] so I'm not sure that we will find anything concerning his estate at the time of his death. I also searched for Sarah Johnson and found no probate record for her estate. The only Sarah Johnson listed was for 1914. So, unless there was a long delay in settling things, that would not be her ... considering she was listed as age 57 in 1850. The fact that Zelotas served in the Manlius Rifle would indicate that he was in Onondaga Co., NY in 1812. We know that 634-Joseph was in Onondaga Co. for the 1810 census with two sons age 16-25. That his son, Joseph, jr. married Phylinda Cleveland there in 1814 and then all three of them [Joseph, Joseph, jr., and Zelotas] appear in the 1820 census for Ontario Co., NY. The census data with the military file of Zelotas give a strong indication that Zelotas was a son of 634-Joseph. And the 1820 - 1840 censuses give an indication that Orlen/Orlin/Orland could be the son of Zelotas. 1820 the household of Zelotas has: 1 M under 10 = ? 1 M 26-45 = Zelotas (b. abt 1788) 1 F26-45 = Sabrina (b. 1795) 1830 the household of Zelotas has: 1 m under 5 1 M 5-10 = ?Orlin (b. 1824) 1 M 10-15 = ? (b. 1815-1820) 1 M 20-30 [this appears to be an error should be age 40-50] Zelotas 1 F 20-30 1 F 30-40 = Sabrina (b. 1795) 1 F50-60 1840 the household of Zelotas has: 1 M 10-15 = ? 1 M 15-20 = ?Orlen (b. 1824) 1 M 20-30 = ? (b. 1810-1820) according to the 1830 census; b. 1815-1820 1 M 50-60 = Zelotas (b. abt 1788) 1 F 1-10 1 F 10-15 1 F 40-50 = Sabrina (b. 1795) By 1850 Orlen/Orlin is married to Lucinda Johnson and near by, Zelotas is living in the household of Sarah Johnson who is the widow of Daniel Johnson who d. 1841. She is possibly [probably] the mother of Lucinda Johnson. Now, to get off onto another tangent ... I've seen queries posted on GenForum concerning another orphan Sackett, viz., Nathaniel B. Sackett. As is the case with many of the Sacketts who come from NY it has been said that he descended from the family who founded Sackets Harbor in NY but this is very doubtful. Nathaniel B. first appears in the 1850 census: State: WI; County: Dodge; Township: Chester Roll: M432_996 Page: 38 538/559 Sackett, Nathaniel B. 33 m farmer NY [Sackett], Agnes 31 f SCOT Sackett, Henry 7 m NY Sackett, Cyrus 11/12 NY In the 1860 Census; STATE: Wisconsin COUNTY: Fond du Lac DIVISION: Town of Alto REEL NO: M653-1407 PAGE NO: 70 REFERENCE: Enumerated on 23 June, 1860 by A.C. Robbins; Post Office: Black Hawk; SHEET NO: 184 14 532 532 Sackett N.B. 43 M Farmer 2,000 530 New York 15 532 532 Sackett Agnes 42 F Scotland 16 532 532 Sackett Cyrus 11 M New York X 17 532 532 Sackett James 9 M Wisconsin X REMARKS: Idiotic 18 532 532 Sackett Allen 5 M Wisconsin X 19 532 53 Sackett Robert 9/12 M Wisconsin 1880 census; Pleasant Grove, Olmsted, Minnesota Film T9-0628 Page 352B N.B. SACKET Self M M W 63 NY Farmer MA NY Agness SACKET Wife F M W 61 SCOT Keeping House SCOT SCOT Ellen SACKET Dau F S W 25 WI At Home NY SCOT James SACKET Son M S W 29 WI At Home NY SCOT Robt. SACKET Son M S W 20 WI At Home NY SCOT Mary C. LAMBERT GDau F S W 17 WI ----------- NY ENG Winnie LAMBERT GDau F S W 7 MN ----------- ENG NY Now, if one goes back through the census data for the household of Zelotas and Sabrina Sackett ... This Nathaniel B. Sackett COULD be the male under 10 yrs in 1820, age 10-15 in 1830; age 20-30 in 1840. If this male is Nathaniel B. Sackett, he would have been married soon after the 1840 census and according to the 1850 WI census moved to Wisconsin after Cyrus was born in 1849 in NY, 11 months before the census. It is said that Nathaniel B.'s name was Nathaniel Baldwin Sackett. It is interesting to note that 155-Hannah Sackett and her husband, Maj. Isaac Baldwin Jr. died in Pompey, Onondaga Co., NY. So then, IF Nathaniel B.'s middle name was Baldwin he could have been named after Maj. Isaac Baldwin, jr. not becasue they were closely related, but because of the primonance of Maj. Baldwin. It is also interesting to note that Nathaniel B. Sackett and Orlin Sackett both were in Olmsted Co., MN in the 1880 Census. Thurmon On Thu, 17 Jul 2003 09:54:50 -0400 HK2016@netscape.net writes: > Thurmon, > > Sorry about the extra not. > > The census transcription at the Ontario County sight for 1860 only > gave name and page number. If someone could find an original copy > of the page, we could see if Sarah and Lucy are listed consecutively. > > I remember one of Dad's cousins saying that Lucy had sent George a > paper to sign so she could settle her grandparents estate. How > would I go about finding probate records? > > Karen > "Thurmon E. King" <thurmonking@juno.com> wrote: > > >Karen: > > > >I think you tried to confuse us in your second paragraph by putting > an > >extra "not" into the puzzle. (:>) > > > >The death certificate for Orland/Orlen Sackett's son George does > give the > >maiden name of George's mother as Johnson. Could it be that someone > >along the line assumed that because George's middle name was Steven > that > >it had a connection to his mother's maiden name? > > > >The census and cemetery information from Ontario Co., NY does prove > to be > >quite interesting. And when we consider the possibility that Sarah > >Johnson was Lucinda's mother; and that Zelotus Sackett was in > Sarah's > >household in the 1850 census; it lends a little bit more credence > to my > >theory that Zelotus might be the father of Orland/Orlin. > > > >It would be interesting to see if Lucy Sackett and Sarah Johnson > were in > >the same household in the 1860 census. If they were, that would > come > >close to confirming the connection. > > > >Thurmon > > > >On Wed, 16 Jul 2003 16:56:52 -0400 HK2016@netscape.net writes: > >> Why I now believe that Orland/Orlin Sackett's wife was Lucinda > >> Johnson: > >> > >> Pam sent for George Sackett's death certificate and gave me a > copy. > >> It lists his mothers maiden name as not Johnson, not Stevens as > we > >> thought. > >> > >> I was looking over old List email about our family and came > across > >> this one from Thurmon; Subject: [SACKETT-L] Revisiting Sacketts > of > >> Ontario Co., NY, Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003, From: > >> thurmonking@netscape.net that included the following, "In 1850 > Orlen > >> Sackett is listed as being 26 years old which indicated that he > was > >> born about 1824 in NY. Two households away in the household of > >> Sarah Johnson age 57, there is a Lotas/Lotus Sackett age 62 (b. > abt > >> 1788) listed." This got me thinking about Sarah Johnson. Then I > >> started looking at census and cemetery records for Ontario County. > >> > >> The 1855 census also lists Orlin's family and Sarah Johnson on > the > >> same page. By 1860, Lucinda would have been deceased and Orlin > had > >> moved to Goodhue County, Minnesota with his younger children. > Lucy, > >> supposedly, stayed in New York with her grandparents. > >> > >> The 1860 census for Ontario County still lists Lucy Sackett and > >> Sarah Johnson. They are on the same page and possibly in the > same > >> household. > >> They are no longer listed together in 1865 because Lucy was > married > >> to Charles Briggs by then. > >> > >> In Fairview Cemetery, Naples, Ontario, New York, we find Lucinda > >> Sackett and her parents, Sarah and Daniel Johnson (and, perhaps, > her > >> inlaws). > >> JOHNSON > >> Sarah, wife of Daniel; died Nov 7 1865; ae 73 yrs; > >> Jeremiah W.; died Dec 30 1852; ae 27-6-8 > >> Daniel; died Apr 27 1841; in his 51st year; > >> SACKETT > >> Sabrina, wife of Zelotus; died Feb 15 1843; ae 48 yrs; > >> Lucinda, wife of Orlin; died Oct 23 1856; ae 29-10-6; > >> Zelotus; War of 1812 > >> > >> Lucy Sackett Briggs was buried in Roseridge Cemetery, Naples, > >> Ontario, New York. > >> Last Name First Maiden b-yr d-yr notes > >> Briggs Carrie 1867 dau of Chas > T. > >> & Lucy > >> Briggs Sarah 1857 1948 2d wife of > >> Charles T. > >> Briggs Lucy Sackett 1846 1885 Wfe of > Charles > >> T. > >> Briggs N. 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Thurmon, You may already have this info but I came across many Sacket(t)s in an index of cemetery inscriptions of Huron County Oh published by the Huron County Chapter of OGS, 1997. The numbers indicate the page numbers in the volume. I never pursued it any further, perhaps someone has access to the book. Sackett, Almira, 420 Anna R., 109 Beach K., 437 (Kimball Beach Sackett, son of Justus H.) Clyde R., 109 Cora M., 437 (wife of K. Beach Sackett) Dora, 434 Dwight R., 427 Elmer., 109 Elmer S., 109 Elsie E., 438 Ethel, 434 Fred, 434 H. N., 75 Harvey, 429 I. F. 434 Irene F., 434 (This could be the Irene you were looking for) J. H. 434 Jacque, 299 Jane, 693 Justus H., 434, 438 Lambert D., 693 Mary, 429 Mary J., 427 Mary Lucile, 434 Paul Alfred, 129 Paul W., 299 S. E. Fidelia, 75 S. J., 75 Vera Lois., 129 Hope this helps someone Barbara Byrd

Thurmon I am not sure if you are aware of the following but I meant to mention it before. While I was in NY I found out that every township has a town historian (by law). The town historian has more information on different individuals who lived in the area. I did not know where to look of Zelotus/Zelotas but this is the link to the Wayne Co list of historians http://www.waynecountyny.org/resources/local_historians.asp I am sure there is one for each county. We found a lot of good stuff on some our ancestors while we were running around, but others there was nothing on. Liesa ----- Original Message ----- From: "Thurmon E. King" <thurmonking@juno.com> To: <SACKETT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2003 8:52 PM Subject: Re: [SACKETT-L] Orlin Sackett's Wife > Liesa sent me copies ot the three pages of the file for Zelotus/Zelotas > Sackett. And it doesn't help very much. > > It is primarily a document settling up his pay for his service in Company > commanded by Capt. Leonard Kellogg part of the Manlius Rifle Batalion of > Militia commanded by Maj. Charles Mosely. > > It is dated 26 Sep 1859 and states the Zelotas is 72 years old. > He had a Land Warrant #16532 for 80 acres. > He signed his name as ZELOTAS SACKETT > > It is not clear that Zelotas ever claimed his 80 acres and a search of > the probate court index in Ontario Co. gives no listing for Zelotas [or > Simon/Simon Z.] so I'm not sure that we will find anything concerning his > estate at the time of his death. I also searched for Sarah Johnson and > found no probate record for her estate. The only Sarah Johnson listed > was for 1914. So, unless there was a long delay in settling things, that > would not be her ... considering she was listed as age 57 in 1850. > > The fact that Zelotas served in the Manlius Rifle would indicate that he > was in Onondaga Co., NY in 1812. We know that 634-Joseph was in Onondaga > Co. for the 1810 census with two sons age 16-25. That his son, Joseph, > jr. married Phylinda Cleveland there in 1814 and then all three of them > [Joseph, Joseph, jr., and Zelotas] appear in the 1820 census for Ontario > Co., NY. > > The census data with the military file of Zelotas give a strong > indication that Zelotas was a son of 634-Joseph. And the 1820 - 1840 > censuses give an indication that Orlen/Orlin/Orland could be the son of > Zelotas. > 1820 the household of Zelotas has: > 1 M under 10 = ? > 1 M 26-45 = Zelotas (b. abt 1788) > 1 F26-45 = Sabrina (b. 1795) > > 1830 the household of Zelotas has: > 1 m under 5 > 1 M 5-10 = ?Orlin (b. 1824) > 1 M 10-15 = ? (b. 1815-1820) > 1 M 20-30 [this appears to be an error should be age 40-50] Zelotas > 1 F 20-30 > 1 F 30-40 = Sabrina (b. 1795) > 1 F50-60 > > 1840 the household of Zelotas has: > 1 M 10-15 = ? > 1 M 15-20 = ?Orlen (b. 1824) > 1 M 20-30 = ? (b. 1810-1820) according to the 1830 census; b. 1815-1820 > 1 M 50-60 = Zelotas (b. abt 1788) > 1 F 1-10 > 1 F 10-15 > 1 F 40-50 = Sabrina (b. 1795) > > By 1850 Orlen/Orlin is married to Lucinda Johnson and near by, Zelotas is > living in the household of Sarah Johnson who is the widow of Daniel > Johnson who d. 1841. She is possibly [probably] the mother of Lucinda > Johnson. > > Now, to get off onto another tangent ... I've seen queries posted on > GenForum concerning another orphan Sackett, viz., Nathaniel B. Sackett. > As is the case with many of the Sacketts who come from NY it has been > said that he descended from the family who founded Sackets Harbor in NY > but this is very doubtful. > Nathaniel B. first appears in the > 1850 census: State: WI; County: Dodge; Township: Chester > Roll: M432_996 Page: 38 > 538/559 > Sackett, Nathaniel B. 33 m farmer NY > [Sackett], Agnes 31 f SCOT > Sackett, Henry 7 m NY > Sackett, Cyrus 11/12 NY > > In the 1860 Census; STATE: Wisconsin COUNTY: Fond du Lac DIVISION: > Town of Alto REEL NO: M653-1407 PAGE NO: 70 > REFERENCE: Enumerated on 23 June, 1860 by A.C. Robbins; Post Office: > Black Hawk; SHEET NO: 184 > 14 532 532 Sackett N.B. 43 M Farmer > 2,000 530 New York > 15 532 532 Sackett Agnes 42 F > Scotland > 16 532 532 Sackett Cyrus 11 M > New York X > 17 532 532 Sackett James 9 M > Wisconsin X > REMARKS: Idiotic > 18 532 532 Sackett Allen 5 M > Wisconsin X > 19 532 53 Sackett Robert 9/12 M > Wisconsin > > 1880 census; Pleasant Grove, Olmsted, Minnesota Film T9-0628 Page > 352B > N.B. SACKET Self M M W 63 NY Farmer MA NY > Agness SACKET Wife F M W 61 SCOT Keeping House SCOT SCOT > Ellen SACKET Dau F S W 25 WI At Home NY SCOT > James SACKET Son M S W 29 WI At Home NY SCOT > Robt. SACKET Son M S W 20 WI At Home NY SCOT > Mary C. LAMBERT GDau F S W 17 WI ----------- NY ENG > Winnie LAMBERT GDau F S W 7 MN ----------- ENG NY > > Now, if one goes back through the census data for the household of > Zelotas and Sabrina Sackett ... This Nathaniel B. Sackett COULD be the > male under 10 yrs in 1820, age 10-15 in 1830; age 20-30 in 1840. If this > male is Nathaniel B. Sackett, he would have been married soon after the > 1840 census and according to the 1850 WI census moved to Wisconsin after > Cyrus was born in 1849 in NY, 11 months before the census. > > It is said that Nathaniel B.'s name was Nathaniel Baldwin Sackett. It is > interesting to note that 155-Hannah Sackett and her husband, Maj. Isaac > Baldwin Jr. died in Pompey, Onondaga Co., NY. So then, IF Nathaniel B.'s > middle name was Baldwin he could have been named after Maj. Isaac > Baldwin, jr. not becasue they were closely related, but because of the > primonance of Maj. Baldwin. > > It is also interesting to note that Nathaniel B. Sackett and Orlin > Sackett both were in Olmsted Co., MN in the 1880 Census. > > Thurmon > > On Thu, 17 Jul 2003 09:54:50 -0400 HK2016@netscape.net writes: > > Thurmon, > > > > Sorry about the extra not. > > > > The census transcription at the Ontario County sight for 1860 only > > gave name and page number. If someone could find an original copy > > of the page, we could see if Sarah and Lucy are listed consecutively. > > > > I remember one of Dad's cousins saying that Lucy had sent George a > > paper to sign so she could settle her grandparents estate. How > > would I go about finding probate records? > > > > Karen > > "Thurmon E. King" <thurmonking@juno.com> wrote: > > > > >Karen: > > > > > >I think you tried to confuse us in your second paragraph by putting > > an > > >extra "not" into the puzzle. (:>) > > > > > >The death certificate for Orland/Orlen Sackett's son George does > > give the > > >maiden name of George's mother as Johnson. Could it be that someone > > >along the line assumed that because George's middle name was Steven > > that > > >it had a connection to his mother's maiden name? > > > > > >The census and cemetery information from Ontario Co., NY does prove > > to be > > >quite interesting. And when we consider the possibility that Sarah > > >Johnson was Lucinda's mother; and that Zelotus Sackett was in > > Sarah's > > >household in the 1850 census; it lends a little bit more credence > > to my > > >theory that Zelotus might be the father of Orland/Orlin. > > > > > >It would be interesting to see if Lucy Sackett and Sarah Johnson > > were in > > >the same household in the 1860 census. If they were, that would > > come > > >close to confirming the connection. > > > > > >Thurmon > > > > > >On Wed, 16 Jul 2003 16:56:52 -0400 HK2016@netscape.net writes: > > >> Why I now believe that Orland/Orlin Sackett's wife was Lucinda > > >> Johnson: > > >> > > >> Pam sent for George Sackett's death certificate and gave me a > > copy. > > >> It lists his mothers maiden name as not Johnson, not Stevens as > > we > > >> thought. > > >> > > >> I was looking over old List email about our family and came > > across > > >> this one from Thurmon; Subject: [SACKETT-L] Revisiting Sacketts > > of > > >> Ontario Co., NY, Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003, From: > > >> thurmonking@netscape.net that included the following, "In 1850 > > Orlen > > >> Sackett is listed as being 26 years old which indicated that he > > was > > >> born about 1824 in NY. Two households away in the household of > > >> Sarah Johnson age 57, there is a Lotas/Lotus Sackett age 62 (b. > > abt > > >> 1788) listed." This got me thinking about Sarah Johnson. Then I > > >> started looking at census and cemetery records for Ontario County. > > >> > > >> The 1855 census also lists Orlin's family and Sarah Johnson on > > the > > >> same page. By 1860, Lucinda would have been deceased and Orlin > > had > > >> moved to Goodhue County, Minnesota with his younger children. > > Lucy, > > >> supposedly, stayed in New York with her grandparents. > > >> > > >> The 1860 census for Ontario County still lists Lucy Sackett and > > >> Sarah Johnson. They are on the same page and possibly in the > > same > > >> household. > > >> They are no longer listed together in 1865 because Lucy was > > married > > >> to Charles Briggs by then. > > >> > > >> In Fairview Cemetery, Naples, Ontario, New York, we find Lucinda > > >> Sackett and her parents, Sarah and Daniel Johnson (and, perhaps, > > her > > >> inlaws). > > >> JOHNSON > > >> Sarah, wife of Daniel; died Nov 7 1865; ae 73 yrs; > > >> Jeremiah W.; died Dec 30 1852; ae 27-6-8 > > >> Daniel; died Apr 27 1841; in his 51st year; > > >> SACKETT > > >> Sabrina, wife of Zelotus; died Feb 15 1843; ae 48 yrs; > > >> Lucinda, wife of Orlin; died Oct 23 1856; ae 29-10-6; > > >> Zelotus; War of 1812 > > >> > > >> Lucy Sackett Briggs was buried in Roseridge Cemetery, Naples, > > >> Ontario, New York. > > >> Last Name First Maiden b-yr d-yr notes > > >> Briggs Carrie 1867 dau of Chas > > T. > > >> & Lucy > > >> Briggs Sarah 1857 1948 2d wife of > > >> Charles T. > > >> Briggs Lucy Sackett 1846 1885 Wfe of > > Charles > > >> T. > > >> Briggs N. Eugene 1872 son of Chas > > T. > > >> & Lucy > > >> Briggs Charles T. 1840 1912 > > >> > > >> Well, that's my case. I would love to be able to confirm it, but > > it > > >> looks reasonable. ---Karen > > >> > > >> __________________________________________________________________ > > >> McAfee VirusScan Online from the Netscape Network. > > >> Comprehensive protection for your entire computer. Get your free > > >> trial today! > > >> > > http://channels.netscape.com/ns/computing/mcafee/index.jsp?promo=393397 > > >> > > >> Get AOL Instant Messenger 5.1 free of charge. 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thurmon in the 1880 census at familysearch.org Ruggles, Ashland, Ohio there is an Altie E. Sackett age 24, born Ohio wife of James H. Sackett age 28, born Ohio, father born OHio, mother born NY they have a son John B., age 2. Didn't take the time to look at a scan of this page but this could be the Artie E. Sackett..age would be correct. In a later census there is an Eva E. Sackett wife of William but the age is off by 5 years..want that information? -----Original Message----- From: Thurmon E. King [mailto:thurmonking@juno.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 4:16 PM To: SACKETT-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [SACKETT-L] More mystery SACKETTs Yesterday I did a search of the Ashland County website at USGenWeb and found several members of the family of Harvey Sackett and Thalia Eldred listed in the cemetery transcriptions for the Ruggles Township Cemetery. SACKETT - Abigail Gates w/o Mason died 1891 age 63y SACKETT - Almina Stout w/o Charley G. 1856 - 1903 SACKETT - Artie E. King w/o J. Harvey 1855 - 1901 SACKETT - Charley G. 1854 - 1931 SACKETT - E. Mason died 1912 age 89y SACKETT - E. Tanner 1821 - 1910 SACKETT - Erastus infant 1855 SACKETT - Eva M. 1858 - 1936 SACKETT - Ezra C. 1848 - 1850 SACKETT - Frank I. 1861 - 1862 SACKETT - Harriett A. 1867 - 1915 SACKETT - Harvey died 1875 age 84y SACKETT - infant dau. 1850 SACKETT - Lucretia L. Lyon w/o E. 1825 - 1901 SACKETT - Thalia E. w/o Harvey died 1843 age 48y I've been able to identify all but two of the Sacketts listed: 1. SACKETT - Artie E. King w/o J. Harvey 1855 - 1901 This appears to be a wife of 3840-Justus Harvey Sackett, son of 1520-Harvey Sackett and his 2nd wife, Mary VanVranken. However, Weygant gives the name of his wife as Irene Beach (married 10 Nov 1869). Due to the fact that Artie E. King lived until 1901 it would appear that she might have been a 2nd wife of J. Harvey. But the cemetery does not appear to have a grave for Irene (Beach) Sackett. Does anyone have information that will help clear this up? 2. SACKETT - Eva M. 1858 - 1936 This appears to be a daughter of one of 1512-Harvey's sons. 3837-Erastus Tanner Sackett is shown as having a son Harmon Merit Sackett born 25 May 1858, so unless this child was misidentified, or was a twin, Erastus T. would seem to be eliminated. 3838-Erasmus Mason Sackett has children born in 1854 and 1859 so there is a possibility that he was the father of Eva M. Sackett 1858-1936. According to the 1850 census 1512-Harvey had three other sons for whom we have no other information: Year: 1850; State: OH; County: Ashland; Township: Ruggles Roll: M432_658 Page: 507 152/152 Sackett, Harrey 59 m farmer CT [Sackett], Mary 47 f NY Van Rankin, Sumia 23 f NY Sackett, Harmon 18 m farmer NY Sackett, Robert 15 m farmer OH Sackett, Triphena 12 f OH Sackett, Ganet 10 m OH Sackett, Justus 2 m OH Harmon and Robert both could have been married and had a son born by 1858. But I have found no records for them. Anyone with information, or suggestions? Thurmon ==== SACKETT Mailing List ==== RootsWeb blocks HTML formatting in email messages. Be sure to set your email software to text only before posting a message to the list. ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

The 1880 census at familysearch.org lists Sacket, Bryron, age 41, born NY, parents born Ma wife Rhoda in Russia, Herkimer co. So Bryron at least would seem to connect to Massachusetts Sackett family -----Original Message----- From: Thurmon E. King [mailto:thurmonking@juno.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 7:22 PM To: SACKETT-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [SACKETT-L] Roswell Sackett and wife Jane While checking out the update to The SACKETT-L Discussion List Home Page; I notice this entry: (Name Not Known) lilliansca2001@yahoo.com No Subbed/Unsubbed Winter 2002 "Is of the belief that Heman, Roswell and Jame H. SACKETT, from Herkimer County, New York, were criminals who took up the Sackett name in order to hide from the law and then came west to distance themselves even more. Can only find mention of them in the 1850 census for that county and state. There is a record of Roswell marrying but after the census there is nothing more except in California. It is said that Roswell went back to New York but I still haven't been able to find him." -------- I did some searching on the USGenWeb site for Herkimer Co., NY and found the following information for this couple and Heman and James Sackett: 1850 Federal Population Census for the Town of Wilmurt, HERKIMER COUNTY House 18, Family 19 SACKETT, Herman, 25, m, farmer, $200, NY ....Phoebe Ann, 25, f, NY ....Edward A., 3, m, NY ....George M., 2, m, NY STEVENS, Abram, 18, m, laborer, NY ....Rusell, 10, m, NY, attended school within the year House 19, Family 20 SACKETT, James H., 22, m, NY ....Sarah, 18, f, NY ....Josephine, 1/12, f, NY House 17, Family 18 SACKETT, Roswell, 25, m, farmer, $300, NY ....Jane, 27, f, NY ....George A., 1/12, m, NY http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyherkim/webb/vitals.html 1847 - 1849 Vital Records Town of Wilmurt [marriages] SACKETT, Roswell R., Jane KELLOGG, Nov 12, 1848 --------- http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyherkim/ohio/ohiodir.html DIRECTORY OF THE TOWN OF OHIO 1869 -1870 Sackett, Roswell Town: (Ohio) farmer 60 ----------- http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyherkim/census/1870Ohio2.html 1870 Federal Census Town of Ohio, Herkimer County, NY Transcribed by Joanne Murray 21/21 Sackett, R.R. 48 M W Lumberman NY Jane 49 F W NY Charles W. 16 M W NY Kellogg, Martha 93 F W New Hampshire ----------- http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyherkim/regiments/1880herkpension2.html PENSIONERS OF HERKIMER COUNTY, N.Y. On the Roll on January 1, 1883 No. of certificate; Name of pensioner; Post-office address; Cause for which pensioned; Monthly rate; Date of original allowance 184, 362 Sackett, Jane Ohio widow 8.00 June, 1879 ------------- http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyherkim/cemeteries/ohiocem3.html OHIO CEMETERY Updated by Sandi Gates and Leatrice Doolen September 8 and 9, 2000 Sackett Byron Dec 3, 1882 44 yrs Caroline J. Apr 11, 1883 62 yrs, 1 mo., 24 days hus Roswell Clara A. May 12, 1862 4 yrs, 1 mo., 4 days daug/Roswell & Jane Roswell Sept. 7, 1878 54 yrs, 7 mo. Co C 81 st Regt. NY Vol.; wf Caroline J. Sarah A. Flansburg Jan 30, 1858 25 yrs, 3 mo., 13 days wf James H. Sackett ---------- http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyherkim/cemeteries/ilioncem2.html VILLAGE OF ILION CEMETERY, Pt. 2 TOWN OF GERMAN FLATTS, HERKIMER COUNTY Village of Ilion SACKETT, James W., 1839 - 1905 **************** Does anyone have information as to where these people connect to the larger Sackett family? Thurmon ==== SACKETT Mailing List ==== ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To post a message, address it to:sackett-l@rootsweb.com To subscribe or unsubscribe, address it to: sackett-l-request@rootsweb.com (SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE in the body) ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

July 1860 census Naples,Ontario Co., New York, page 322 line 1 is Lucy Sacket, age 14, born NY she a carry over from page 321 the family of Edwin & Harriett Wiserdall family #470 on page 322 family #471 line 2 Sarah Johnson, age 64, born NY includes Sophrona P-may?, age 50, born NY and 4 younger P-may?s So the 2 names are next to each other but in different households in this census. Louella -----Original Message----- From: Bob Schuster [mailto:rmschust@wisc.edu] Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 9:56 AM To: SACKETT-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SACKETT-L] Orlin Sackett's Wife Thurmon wonders whether census records for 1860 confirm that Lucy Sackett and Sarah Johnson were living in the same household. A quick check of the 1860 census index for Naples (from Census Online, http://www.census-online.com/links/NY/1860.html) does suggest that they were, at least, living in proximity to each other. The census records themselves should confirm it. Bob ---------------- Johnson, Sarah Naples p. 322 1860 Johnson, Sarah Naples p. 339 1860 Johnson, Sarah E. Naples p. 318 1860 Sacket, Eliza Naples p. 346 1860 Sacket, Erastus Naples p. 346 1860 Sacket, Hulda Naples p. 346 1860 Sacket, Lucy Naples p. 322 1860 -------------------- At 05:35 PM 7/16/2003 -0700, Thurmon wrote: >Karen: > >I think you tried to confuse us in your second paragraph by putting an >extra "not" into the puzzle. (:>) > >The death certificate for Orland/Orlen Sackett's son George does give the >maiden name of George's mother as Johnson. Could it be that someone >along the line assumed that because George's middle name was Steven that >it had a connection to his mother's maiden name? > >The census and cemetery information from Ontario Co., NY does prove to be >quite interesting. And when we consider the possibility that Sarah >Johnson was Lucinda's mother; and that Zelotus Sackett was in Sarah's >household in the 1850 census; it lends a little bit more credence to my >theory that Zelotus might be the father of Orland/Orlin. > >It would be interesting to see if Lucy Sackett and Sarah Johnson were in >the same household in the 1860 census. If they were, that would come >close to confirming the connection. > >Thurmon ==== SACKETT Mailing List ==== RootsWeb blocks attachments. So sharing photos is not possible through the list; send off-list individually. If you have a text file you wish to share, save it as text and insert the text into your message. ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Mother's uncanny ability The first incidnet I remember of Mother's ability was when we lived on Rock Creek west of Marietta, OK in 1937. It occurred after Dad had bought the 22 cal. rifle for Mother. One morning she went to the barn to milk the cows and returned to the house before she had finished milking all the cows. She loaded the rifle and started watching the barn through the kitchen window. When Donal asked her why she was doing that; she replied: "There is someone in the barn and they were looking at me." Donal asked: "What did they look like?" Mother replied: "I don't know. I didn't see them." Donal asked: "How do you know someone is there? Did they make a noise?" "No, I didn't hear a noise." she said. "But I know someone was looking at me." About that time, two men came out of the barn and headed north up the creek, going away from the house,. There were times after that when Mother would be some place and suddenly she would start looking around to find who was staring at her. But, in my mind, I wasn't sure that she REALLY knew that someone was looking at her. So one evening, after we had moved to Yuma, Arizona, we were all sitting in the living room doing different things. I was reading a book while sitting in in a position to one side and slightly behind Mother. It was then that I decided to see if she could really know when someone was staring at her. So I started staring at her. After a short time she started to act uneasy and started looking around. Before she looked my way, I looked down at my book, pretending to read. When she quit looking around, I started staring at her again ... With the same results. After a few more times of this, Mother began to really get agitated. She even went and looked out the window to see if anyone was out there. Suddenly she said: "There's someone staring at me. And if I find out who it is, I'm going to wring their neck!" Well, now. I had seen Mother wring a chicken's neck and I wanted no part of that proceedure. So I decided that I had better read my book. Thurmon

In my haste at finishing my last message I made an error in the last sentence: "It is also interesting to note that Nathaniel B. Sackett and Orlin Sackett both were in Olmsted Co., MN in the 1880 Census." They were NOT in the same county, Nathaniel B. was in Olmsted Co. and Orlin was in neighboring Goodhue Co. Thurmon

Liesa sent me copies ot the three pages of the file for Zelotus/Zelotas Sackett. And it doesn't help very much. It is primarily a document settling up his pay for his service in Company commanded by Capt. Leonard Kellogg part of the Manlius Rifle Batalion of Militia commanded by Maj. Charles Mosely. It is dated 26 Sep 1859 and states the Zelotas is 72 years old. He had a Land Warrant #16532 for 80 acres. He signed his name as ZELOTAS SACKETT It is not clear that Zelotas ever claimed his 80 acres and a search of the probate court index in Ontario Co. gives no listing for Zelotas [or Simon/Simon Z.] so I'm not sure that we will find anything concerning his estate at the time of his death. I also searched for Sarah Johnson and found no probate record for her estate. The only Sarah Johnson listed was for 1914. So, unless there was a long delay in settling things, that would not be her ... considering she was listed as age 57 in 1850. The fact that Zelotas served in the Manlius Rifle would indicate that he was in Onondaga Co., NY in 1812. We know that 634-Joseph was in Onondaga Co. for the 1810 census with two sons age 16-25. That his son, Joseph, jr. married Phylinda Cleveland there in 1814 and then all three of them [Joseph, Joseph, jr., and Zelotas] appear in the 1820 census for Ontario Co., NY. The census data with the military file of Zelotas give a strong indication that Zelotas was a son of 634-Joseph. And the 1820 - 1840 censuses give an indication that Orlen/Orlin/Orland could be the son of Zelotas. 1820 the household of Zelotas has: 1 M under 10 = ? 1 M 26-45 = Zelotas (b. abt 1788) 1 F26-45 = Sabrina (b. 1795) 1830 the household of Zelotas has: 1 m under 5 1 M 5-10 = ?Orlin (b. 1824) 1 M 10-15 = ? (b. 1815-1820) 1 M 20-30 [this appears to be an error should be age 40-50] Zelotas 1 F 20-30 1 F 30-40 = Sabrina (b. 1795) 1 F50-60 1840 the household of Zelotas has: 1 M 10-15 = ? 1 M 15-20 = ?Orlen (b. 1824) 1 M 20-30 = ? (b. 1810-1820) according to the 1830 census; b. 1815-1820 1 M 50-60 = Zelotas (b. abt 1788) 1 F 1-10 1 F 10-15 1 F 40-50 = Sabrina (b. 1795) By 1850 Orlen/Orlin is married to Lucinda Johnson and near by, Zelotas is living in the household of Sarah Johnson who is the widow of Daniel Johnson who d. 1841. She is possibly [probably] the mother of Lucinda Johnson. Now, to get off onto another tangent ... I've seen queries posted on GenForum concerning another orphan Sackett, viz., Nathaniel B. Sackett. As is the case with many of the Sacketts who come from NY it has been said that he descended from the family who founded Sackets Harbor in NY but this is very doubtful. Nathaniel B. first appears in the 1850 census: State: WI; County: Dodge; Township: Chester Roll: M432_996 Page: 38 538/559 Sackett, Nathaniel B. 33 m farmer NY [Sackett], Agnes 31 f SCOT Sackett, Henry 7 m NY Sackett, Cyrus 11/12 NY In the 1860 Census; STATE: Wisconsin COUNTY: Fond du Lac DIVISION: Town of Alto REEL NO: M653-1407 PAGE NO: 70 REFERENCE: Enumerated on 23 June, 1860 by A.C. Robbins; Post Office: Black Hawk; SHEET NO: 184 14 532 532 Sackett N.B. 43 M Farmer 2,000 530 New York 15 532 532 Sackett Agnes 42 F Scotland 16 532 532 Sackett Cyrus 11 M New York X 17 532 532 Sackett James 9 M Wisconsin X REMARKS: Idiotic 18 532 532 Sackett Allen 5 M Wisconsin X 19 532 53 Sackett Robert 9/12 M Wisconsin 1880 census; Pleasant Grove, Olmsted, Minnesota Film T9-0628 Page 352B N.B. SACKET Self M M W 63 NY Farmer MA NY Agness SACKET Wife F M W 61 SCOT Keeping House SCOT SCOT Ellen SACKET Dau F S W 25 WI At Home NY SCOT James SACKET Son M S W 29 WI At Home NY SCOT Robt. SACKET Son M S W 20 WI At Home NY SCOT Mary C. LAMBERT GDau F S W 17 WI ----------- NY ENG Winnie LAMBERT GDau F S W 7 MN ----------- ENG NY Now, if one goes back through the census data for the household of Zelotas and Sabrina Sackett ... This Nathaniel B. Sackett COULD be the male under 10 yrs in 1820, age 10-15 in 1830; age 20-30 in 1840. If this male is Nathaniel B. Sackett, he would have been married soon after the 1840 census and according to the 1850 WI census moved to Wisconsin after Cyrus was born in 1849 in NY, 11 months before the census. It is said that Nathaniel B.'s name was Nathaniel Baldwin Sackett. It is interesting to note that 155-Hannah Sackett and her husband, Maj. Isaac Baldwin Jr. died in Pompey, Onondaga Co., NY. So then, IF Nathaniel B.'s middle name was Baldwin he could have been named after Maj. Isaac Baldwin, jr. not becasue they were closely related, but because of the primonance of Maj. Baldwin. It is also interesting to note that Nathaniel B. Sackett and Orlin Sackett both were in Olmsted Co., MN in the 1880 Census. Thurmon On Thu, 17 Jul 2003 09:54:50 -0400 HK2016@netscape.net writes: > Thurmon, > > Sorry about the extra not. > > The census transcription at the Ontario County sight for 1860 only > gave name and page number. If someone could find an original copy > of the page, we could see if Sarah and Lucy are listed consecutively. > > I remember one of Dad's cousins saying that Lucy had sent George a > paper to sign so she could settle her grandparents estate. How > would I go about finding probate records? > > Karen > "Thurmon E. King" <thurmonking@juno.com> wrote: > > >Karen: > > > >I think you tried to confuse us in your second paragraph by putting > an > >extra "not" into the puzzle. (:>) > > > >The death certificate for Orland/Orlen Sackett's son George does > give the > >maiden name of George's mother as Johnson. Could it be that someone > >along the line assumed that because George's middle name was Steven > that > >it had a connection to his mother's maiden name? > > > >The census and cemetery information from Ontario Co., NY does prove > to be > >quite interesting. And when we consider the possibility that Sarah > >Johnson was Lucinda's mother; and that Zelotus Sackett was in > Sarah's > >household in the 1850 census; it lends a little bit more credence > to my > >theory that Zelotus might be the father of Orland/Orlin. > > > >It would be interesting to see if Lucy Sackett and Sarah Johnson > were in > >the same household in the 1860 census. If they were, that would > come > >close to confirming the connection. > > > >Thurmon > > > >On Wed, 16 Jul 2003 16:56:52 -0400 HK2016@netscape.net writes: > >> Why I now believe that Orland/Orlin Sackett's wife was Lucinda > >> Johnson: > >> > >> Pam sent for George Sackett's death certificate and gave me a > copy. > >> It lists his mothers maiden name as not Johnson, not Stevens as > we > >> thought. > >> > >> I was looking over old List email about our family and came > across > >> this one from Thurmon; Subject: [SACKETT-L] Revisiting Sacketts > of > >> Ontario Co., NY, Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003, From: > >> thurmonking@netscape.net that included the following, "In 1850 > Orlen > >> Sackett is listed as being 26 years old which indicated that he > was > >> born about 1824 in NY. Two households away in the household of > >> Sarah Johnson age 57, there is a Lotas/Lotus Sackett age 62 (b. > abt > >> 1788) listed." This got me thinking about Sarah Johnson. Then I > >> started looking at census and cemetery records for Ontario County. > >> > >> The 1855 census also lists Orlin's family and Sarah Johnson on > the > >> same page. By 1860, Lucinda would have been deceased and Orlin > had > >> moved to Goodhue County, Minnesota with his younger children. > Lucy, > >> supposedly, stayed in New York with her grandparents. > >> > >> The 1860 census for Ontario County still lists Lucy Sackett and > >> Sarah Johnson. They are on the same page and possibly in the > same > >> household. > >> They are no longer listed together in 1865 because Lucy was > married > >> to Charles Briggs by then. > >> > >> In Fairview Cemetery, Naples, Ontario, New York, we find Lucinda > >> Sackett and her parents, Sarah and Daniel Johnson (and, perhaps, > her > >> inlaws). > >> JOHNSON > >> Sarah, wife of Daniel; died Nov 7 1865; ae 73 yrs; > >> Jeremiah W.; died Dec 30 1852; ae 27-6-8 > >> Daniel; died Apr 27 1841; in his 51st year; > >> SACKETT > >> Sabrina, wife of Zelotus; died Feb 15 1843; ae 48 yrs; > >> Lucinda, wife of Orlin; died Oct 23 1856; ae 29-10-6; > >> Zelotus; War of 1812 > >> > >> Lucy Sackett Briggs was buried in Roseridge Cemetery, Naples, > >> Ontario, New York. > >> Last Name First Maiden b-yr d-yr notes > >> Briggs Carrie 1867 dau of Chas > T. > >> & Lucy > >> Briggs Sarah 1857 1948 2d wife of > >> Charles T. > >> Briggs Lucy Sackett 1846 1885 Wfe of > Charles > >> T. > >> Briggs N. Eugene 1872 son of Chas > T. > >> & Lucy > >> Briggs Charles T. 1840 1912 > >> > >> Well, that's my case. I would love to be able to confirm it, but > it > >> looks reasonable. ---Karen > >> > >> __________________________________________________________________ > >> McAfee VirusScan Online from the Netscape Network. > >> Comprehensive protection for your entire computer. Get your free > >> trial today! > >> > http://channels.netscape.com/ns/computing/mcafee/index.jsp?promo=393397 > >> > >> Get AOL Instant Messenger 5.1 free of charge. 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I have no idea someone else told me and I need to look at it today. I am sure it is something I did :-P Them darn computers just don't interpret good intentions :-( I should have it up today so keep trying back. I will let everyone know when it is up though. Liesa ----- Original Message ----- From: "Thurmon E. King" <thurmonking@juno.com> To: <SACKETT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, July 18, 2003 6:44 PM Subject: Re: [SACKETT-L] Liesa's Web siet (2nd try) > Liesa: > > What happened to the links for the pension files. They were working the > other day when I accessed the file for Leander Sackett. But none of them > are working today. > > Thurmon > > On Wed, 16 Jul 2003 13:42:12 -0400 "Liesa Robarge" <lrobarge@charter.net> > writes: > > Sorry if you get two of these my emails seem to be going > > to some void to never be seen again :-( > > > > Anyway there is an new link to the site. The old works and > > the old files are still there but they are not updated. > > > > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~sackettmckayhistory/LiesasLineag > e/index.htm > > > > Is the new web site. > > > > The following can be found on it. > > Sackett's under Civil War > > SacketEzeckiel > > SackettFrank > > SackettJamesK > > SackettSamuelS > > SackettThomas > > SackettWilliam > > SackettWilliamL > > > > Sackett's under War 1812 > > SackettDaniel1812 > > SackettHenryHarvey1812 > > SackettJesse1812 > > SackettJohn1812 > > SackettJoseph1812 > > SackettLeander1812 > > SackettNorman1812 > > SackettOliner1812 > > > > > > Liesa Robarge > > List admin for > > SMITH-NEW-ENGLAND, Coffinger, Christian, and Tarbox > > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~sackettmckayhistory/LiesasLineag > e/index.htm > > > > > > ==== SACKETT Mailing List ==== > > RootsWeb WorldConnect Project and is located at: > > <http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/press/worldconnect.html>. > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > > records, go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > ==== SACKETT Mailing List ==== > Tried the RootsWeb Archives and Search Engine on the Web yet...? > http://lists.rootsweb.com/~archiver/lists/ > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Thurmon, Thanks for the information. If you hear anything, please let me know. I'll keep trying. Pam

Liesa: What happened to the links for the pension files. They were working the other day when I accessed the file for Leander Sackett. But none of them are working today. Thurmon On Wed, 16 Jul 2003 13:42:12 -0400 "Liesa Robarge" <lrobarge@charter.net> writes: > Sorry if you get two of these my emails seem to be going > to some void to never be seen again :-( > > Anyway there is an new link to the site. The old works and > the old files are still there but they are not updated. > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~sackettmckayhistory/LiesasLineag e/index.htm > > Is the new web site. > > The following can be found on it. > Sackett’s under Civil War > SacketEzeckiel > SackettFrank > SackettJamesK > SackettSamuelS > SackettThomas > SackettWilliam > SackettWilliamL > > Sackett’s under War 1812 > SackettDaniel1812 > SackettHenryHarvey1812 > SackettJesse1812 > SackettJohn1812 > SackettJoseph1812 > SackettLeander1812 > SackettNorman1812 > SackettOliner1812 > > > Liesa Robarge > List admin for > SMITH-NEW-ENGLAND, Coffinger, Christian, and Tarbox > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~sackettmckayhistory/LiesasLineag e/index.htm > > > ==== SACKETT Mailing List ==== > RootsWeb WorldConnect Project and is located at: > <http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/press/worldconnect.html>. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Pam: I guess I should have mentioned that Liesa had checked with the Narional Archives for the pension file of Zelotus and learned that it would be in the NY state archives. Liesa checked there on her recent trip to Albany but at this time, I haven't heard what she did or did not find there. Thurmon On Fri, 18 Jul 2003 14:55:58 EDT JOfferdahl@aol.com writes: > Thurmon, > I just heard from the National Archives concerning Zelotus' pension > records. > They stated they were unable to locate the file. Do you have any > other > suggestions as to where I could look to find a connection between > him and > Orland/Orlin? I have no birthdate on him so it could be a little > hard. Do Cemetery > records have anything? > Pam Schuster Offerdahl

Thurmon, I just heard from the National Archives concerning Zelotus' pension records. They stated they were unable to locate the file. Do you have any other suggestions as to where I could look to find a connection between him and Orland/Orlin? I have no birthdate on him so it could be a little hard. Do Cemetery records have anything? Pam Schuster Offerdahl

Thurmon, Sorry about the extra not. The census transcription at the Ontario County sight for 1860 only gave name and page number. If someone could find an original copy of the page, we could see if Sarah and Lucy are listed consecutively. I remember one of Dad's cousins saying that Lucy had sent George a paper to sign so she could settle her grandparents estate. How would I go about finding probate records? Karen "Thurmon E. King" <thurmonking@juno.com> wrote: >Karen: > >I think you tried to confuse us in your second paragraph by putting an >extra "not" into the puzzle. (:>) > >The death certificate for Orland/Orlen Sackett's son George does give the >maiden name of George's mother as Johnson. Could it be that someone >along the line assumed that because George's middle name was Steven that >it had a connection to his mother's maiden name? > >The census and cemetery information from Ontario Co., NY does prove to be >quite interesting. And when we consider the possibility that Sarah >Johnson was Lucinda's mother; and that Zelotus Sackett was in Sarah's >household in the 1850 census; it lends a little bit more credence to my >theory that Zelotus might be the father of Orland/Orlin. > >It would be interesting to see if Lucy Sackett and Sarah Johnson were in >the same household in the 1860 census. If they were, that would come >close to confirming the connection. > >Thurmon > >On Wed, 16 Jul 2003 16:56:52 -0400 HK2016@netscape.net writes: >> Why I now believe that Orland/Orlin Sackett's wife was Lucinda >> Johnson: >> >> Pam sent for George Sackett's death certificate and gave me a copy. >> It lists his mothers maiden name as not Johnson, not Stevens as we >> thought. >> >> I was looking over old List email about our family and came across >> this one from Thurmon; Subject: [SACKETT-L] Revisiting Sacketts of >> Ontario Co., NY, Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003, From: >> thurmonking@netscape.net that included the following, "In 1850 Orlen >> Sackett is listed as being 26 years old which indicated that he was >> born about 1824 in NY. Two households away in the household of >> Sarah Johnson age 57, there is a Lotas/Lotus Sackett age 62 (b. abt >> 1788) listed." This got me thinking about Sarah Johnson. Then I >> started looking at census and cemetery records for Ontario County. >> >> The 1855 census also lists Orlin's family and Sarah Johnson on the >> same page. By 1860, Lucinda would have been deceased and Orlin had >> moved to Goodhue County, Minnesota with his younger children. Lucy, >> supposedly, stayed in New York with her grandparents. >> >> The 1860 census for Ontario County still lists Lucy Sackett and >> Sarah Johnson. They are on the same page and possibly in the same >> household. >> They are no longer listed together in 1865 because Lucy was married >> to Charles Briggs by then. >> >> In Fairview Cemetery, Naples, Ontario, New York, we find Lucinda >> Sackett and her parents, Sarah and Daniel Johnson (and, perhaps, her >> inlaws). >> JOHNSON >> Sarah, wife of Daniel; died Nov 7 1865; ae 73 yrs; >> Jeremiah W.; died Dec 30 1852; ae 27-6-8 >> Daniel; died Apr 27 1841; in his 51st year; >> SACKETT >> Sabrina, wife of Zelotus; died Feb 15 1843; ae 48 yrs; >> Lucinda, wife of Orlin; died Oct 23 1856; ae 29-10-6; >> Zelotus; War of 1812 >> >> Lucy Sackett Briggs was buried in Roseridge Cemetery, Naples, >> Ontario, New York. >> Last Name First Maiden b-yr d-yr notes >> Briggs Carrie 1867 dau of Chas T. >> & Lucy >> Briggs Sarah 1857 1948 2d wife of >> Charles T. >> Briggs Lucy Sackett 1846 1885 Wfe of Charles >> T. >> Briggs N. Eugene 1872 son of Chas T. >> & Lucy >> Briggs Charles T. 1840 1912 >> >> Well, that's my case. I would love to be able to confirm it, but it >> looks reasonable. ---Karen >> >> __________________________________________________________________ >> McAfee VirusScan Online from the Netscape Network. >> Comprehensive protection for your entire computer. Get your free >> trial today! >> http://channels.netscape.com/ns/computing/mcafee/index.jsp?promo=393397 >> >> Get AOL Instant Messenger 5.1 free of charge. 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Thurmon wonders whether census records for 1860 confirm that Lucy Sackett and Sarah Johnson were living in the same household. A quick check of the 1860 census index for Naples (from Census Online, http://www.census-online.com/links/NY/1860.html) does suggest that they were, at least, living in proximity to each other. The census records themselves should confirm it. Bob ---------------- Johnson, Sarah Naples p. 322 1860 Johnson, Sarah Naples p. 339 1860 Johnson, Sarah E. Naples p. 318 1860 Sacket, Eliza Naples p. 346 1860 Sacket, Erastus Naples p. 346 1860 Sacket, Hulda Naples p. 346 1860 Sacket, Lucy Naples p. 322 1860 -------------------- At 05:35 PM 7/16/2003 -0700, Thurmon wrote: >Karen: > >I think you tried to confuse us in your second paragraph by putting an >extra "not" into the puzzle. (:>) > >The death certificate for Orland/Orlen Sackett's son George does give the >maiden name of George's mother as Johnson. Could it be that someone >along the line assumed that because George's middle name was Steven that >it had a connection to his mother's maiden name? > >The census and cemetery information from Ontario Co., NY does prove to be >quite interesting. And when we consider the possibility that Sarah >Johnson was Lucinda's mother; and that Zelotus Sackett was in Sarah's >household in the 1850 census; it lends a little bit more credence to my >theory that Zelotus might be the father of Orland/Orlin. > >It would be interesting to see if Lucy Sackett and Sarah Johnson were in >the same household in the 1860 census. If they were, that would come >close to confirming the connection. > >Thurmon