As usual in censuses there are some variations...While Edward R. Randall in 1860 haa hia birpthplace as Canada, George Randall who was enumerated right after George Sexsmith & wife Hulda in the 1880 cenus says he was born in Canada but his father was born in Pennylvania, so does Hulda. But Hulda is age 60, George Randall is age 25. Anyway, I suspect but don't know that Sarah, wofe of Edward R. Randall could have been a daughter to Ann Sexsmith and sister to Rhoda Randall Sexsmith? L -----Original Message----- From: Brenda Sias [mailto:bsias64@msn.com] Sent: Friday, October 24, 2003 10:07 PM To: SACKETT-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SACKETT-L] The Dewey pictures site won't load ----- Original Message ----- From: Thurmon E King To: SACKETT-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 10:36 AM Subject: [SACKETT-L] The Dewey pictures I have uploaded the three pictures I received from Mark Jones which relate to the family of #1400-Asaph Dewey, jr. They can be accessed from http://freepages.books.rootsweb.com/~teking/pictures/dewey/dewey_pics.htm l Regards, Thurmon ==== SACKETT Mailing List ==== To Subscribe to the digest, SACKETT-D, address your email to: sackett-d-request@rootsweb.com and type: SUBSCRIBE. Remember to unsubscribe yourself from sackett-l or you will get multiple copies! ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 ==== SACKETT Mailing List ==== Visit the SACKETT-L Web Page at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~sidersn/sackett ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

site won't load ----- Original Message ----- From: Thurmon E King To: SACKETT-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 10:36 AM Subject: [SACKETT-L] The Dewey pictures I have uploaded the three pictures I received from Mark Jones which relate to the family of #1400-Asaph Dewey, jr. They can be accessed from http://freepages.books.rootsweb.com/~teking/pictures/dewey/dewey_pics.htm l Regards, Thurmon ==== SACKETT Mailing List ==== To Subscribe to the digest, SACKETT-D, address your email to: sackett-d-request@rootsweb.com and type: SUBSCRIBE. Remember to unsubscribe yourself from sackett-l or you will get multiple copies! ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

A followup on the saga of my hard drive. I guess it wasn't repaired after all because as I was saving some more data off the drive it quit again. So, although there were some more files I would like to have from it ... The most important "stuff" is on the CDs. Thurmon

Hello Listers; Today I received a package with my hard drive plus two CDs. The CDs contain data recovered from my drive. AND ... My hard drive has been repaired !!! I am using it right now to send this message. Now to catch up on a month of not doing very much. Regards, Thurmon

I have uploaded the three pictures I received from Mark Jones which relate to the family of #1400-Asaph Dewey, jr. They can be accessed from http://freepages.books.rootsweb.com/~teking/pictures/dewey/dewey_pics.htm l Regards, Thurmon

Illyce: To be honest, Chris posted the transcription of the will and I reposted it with my query. Patty suggested that the Daniel Bloomfield could have been a son born to Isabel and William after the two sons we have baptismal records for were born in the 1640s. The records we have for William Bloomfield indicate that when he arrived in New England he had only Sarah, his wife and Sarah his daughter with him. Some time ago Tom Smith posted information he had gleaned from several sources. One of them mentions "other children": Names of the Puritan Settlers of Connecticut R. R. Hinman; p. 260 Blumfield, William was freeman in Massachusetts, 1635, and early settler in Connecticut. He was in the battle against the Pequot Indians in 1637. He was in the land division of Hartford 1639. He resided in Hartford south of Little River, east of Ralph Keeler's in 1640. He had land at south meadow in Hartford in 1642. he had son John baptized in Hartford August 23, 1645 and Samuel born July 12, 1647 in Hartford, and other children...He sold a house lot in Hartford to John Hale before 1640. The two children named by Hinman appear to have been born to William and Isabel. So one could assume that Daniel was one of the "other children" mentioned by Hinman. The question would be whether or not Daniel was born before, or after the 1645 and 1647 births. When we consider that Isabel's grandson, 7-Joseph Sackett, was born 23 Feb 1655/1656; then it is possible that his Uncle Daniel Bloomfield was less than 10 years older than Joseph. Thank you for the source you gave. That, along with a quote from Joseph's will found in Weygant establishes the Uncle/Nephew relationship between Daniel Bloomfield and Joseph Sackett: "I leave to my son Samuel all my manshon where I now dwell, with all the buildings, and the lot of land and garden and orchards, and all that land that I had of my uncle Daniel Bloomfield joining my said land near the * * * and westward to the land of Nathaniel Woodward. ... [Weygant, p. 23] Thurmon On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 21:59:40 +0000 "Illyce MacDonald" <illycem@hotmail.com> writes: > Hi Thurmon: > In reference to Daniel Blomfield I believe he was Isabel's step-son > and > Sarah Bloomfield's (wife of Simon Sackett) brother by William > Bloomfield and > his first wife Sarah. In the book, "The Evolution of an American > Town: > Newtown, New York, 1642-1775", Jessica Kross, 1983, Temple > University, page > 145, it reads: > > "Joseph Sackett also actively engaged in Newtown's domestic land > market. He > exchanged seven pieces of land to consolidate his holdings and > engaged in a > total of fifty-nine land transactions, the most of anybody in town. > Some of > these lands were also gifts from his childless uncle, Daniel > Blomfield." > > If memory serves me correctly Daniel lived a long life. > Unfortunately it is > not information I have properly recorded or sourced but will go > through my > papers if anyone is interested in more detail. > > Thanks for posting Isabels will. I found it very interesting. > Illyce Mac Donald

Hi Thurmon: In reference to Daniel Blomfield I believe he was Isabel's step-son and Sarah Bloomfield's (wife of Simon Sackett) brother by William Bloomfield and his first wife Sarah. In the book, "The Evolution of an American Town: Newtown, New York, 1642-1775", Jessica Kross, 1983, Temple University, page 145, it reads: "Joseph Sackett also actively engaged in Newtown's domestic land market. He exchanged seven pieces of land to consolidate his holdings and engaged in a total of fifty-nine land transactions, the most of anybody in town. Some of these lands were also gifts from his childless uncle, Daniel Blomfield." If memory serves me correctly Daniel lived a long life. Unfortunately it is not information I have properly recorded or sourced but will go through my papers if anyone is interested in more detail. Thanks for posting Isabels will. I found it very interesting. Illyce Mac Donald _________________________________________________________________ Send instant messages to anyone on your contact list with MSN Messenger 6.0. Try it now FREE! http://msnmessenger-download.com

Thurmon: I believe the two children you have listed are found in baptismal records from Hartford--correct? Perhaps this son was born later, say when the Bloomfields went to Newtown in Long Island. Patty On Wednesday, October 22, 2003, at 01:32 PM, Thurmon E King wrote: > Dear Chris: > > Because of my concerns for recovering my data from my drive failure; I > did not find time to read the will of Isabel at the time you sent it to > the mailing list. This morning I read it as I was filing the message > away. > > I found it to be interesting that the only child she mentions is "...my > Loveing son daniell blomfield..." > > The children I have listed for William Bloomfield and Isabel are; John > (b. bef 24 Aug 1645) and Samuel (b. bef 12 Jul 1647). Neither of these > are mentioned in her will ... That is, unless the son Samuel was a > misreading of the name Daniel. > > Regards, > Thurmon > > On Sat, 11 Oct 2003 12:54:28 +0100 "Chris Sackett" > <chris@sackett.org.uk> > writes: >> Dear All, >> >> >> >> One of the 'finds' during researches at SLC was the will of Simon > Sackett's >> wife Isabel. I have a note that the last 'sighting' of Isabel was in > 1663 >> (although the note does not say what the sighting was!). The will now >> changes that to 1682, meaning she lived at least into her late > seventies and >> that she survived Simon by 47 years. The full source for the will is: > Town >> Minutes of Newtown [Long Island] 1653-1734: Transcriptions of Early > Town >> Records of New York. Historical Records Survey, NY 1941. Vol 2, pt 1, > p260. >> Repository: Family History Library, Salt Lake City. >> >> Regards, >> Chris >> >> Sackett One-Name Study >> www.sackett.org.uk >> >> ------------------------- >> >> Anno 1682 aprill the first >> >> Know all Cristian peopell or home this May Conce.. >> that whare as I Isbell blomfeild of newtowne >> in the west Riding of york sheere upon Long Island >> finding my selfe weeke In body but perfect in >> Memory & understanding but being unsertayne >> how God may deall with mee in Regard of my age >> & prsent weeknes:see Good & that apon Good Consid.. >> to Give unto my Loveing son daniell blomfield in >> Regard of his dutifull care he have had of mee in >> the time of my ould age: hoping that hee will >> Continue the same as Long as I live: Therfore >> I the fore sd Isbell blomfeild doe heare by frely >> Give unto my son daniell & vollentaryly deliver >> unto him by vertue heare of as my act & deede >> such things as heare are spacifyed first all the >> sheere of the housings & Lands: which was Left >> mee by my deceaced Husband william blomfeild >> with all other things that doe be long or apertayn >> unto my selfe: Exsept waring Cloaths: in wittnes >> I sett two my hand & seale & delever it as my >> acct & deed In the prsents of thes witnes >> attested by us >> >> John Coe her >> Samuell Moore Isbell Blomfel. >> Marke >> s >> ---------------------------- > > > ==== SACKETT Mailing List ==== > RootsWeb blocks HTML formatting in email messages. Be sure to set your > email software to text only before posting a message to the list. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Dear Chris: Because of my concerns for recovering my data from my drive failure; I did not find time to read the will of Isabel at the time you sent it to the mailing list. This morning I read it as I was filing the message away. I found it to be interesting that the only child she mentions is "...my Loveing son daniell blomfield..." The children I have listed for William Bloomfield and Isabel are; John (b. bef 24 Aug 1645) and Samuel (b. bef 12 Jul 1647). Neither of these are mentioned in her will ... That is, unless the son Samuel was a misreading of the name Daniel. Regards, Thurmon On Sat, 11 Oct 2003 12:54:28 +0100 "Chris Sackett" <chris@sackett.org.uk> writes: > Dear All, > > > > One of the 'finds' during researches at SLC was the will of Simon Sackett's > wife Isabel. I have a note that the last 'sighting' of Isabel was in 1663 > (although the note does not say what the sighting was!). The will now > changes that to 1682, meaning she lived at least into her late seventies and > that she survived Simon by 47 years. The full source for the will is: Town > Minutes of Newtown [Long Island] 1653-1734: Transcriptions of Early Town > Records of New York. Historical Records Survey, NY 1941. Vol 2, pt 1, p260. > Repository: Family History Library, Salt Lake City. > > Regards, > Chris > > Sackett One-Name Study > www.sackett.org.uk > > ------------------------- > > Anno 1682 aprill the first > > Know all Cristian peopell or home this May Conce.. > that whare as I Isbell blomfeild of newtowne > in the west Riding of york sheere upon Long Island > finding my selfe weeke In body but perfect in > Memory & understanding but being unsertayne > how God may deall with mee in Regard of my age > & prsent weeknes:see Good & that apon Good Consid.. > to Give unto my Loveing son daniell blomfield in > Regard of his dutifull care he have had of mee in > the time of my ould age: hoping that hee will > Continue the same as Long as I live: Therfore > I the fore sd Isbell blomfeild doe heare by frely > Give unto my son daniell & vollentaryly deliver > unto him by vertue heare of as my act & deede > such things as heare are spacifyed first all the > sheere of the housings & Lands: which was Left > mee by my deceaced Husband william blomfeild > with all other things that doe be long or apertayn > unto my selfe: Exsept waring Cloaths: in wittnes > I sett two my hand & seale & delever it as my > acct & deed In the prsents of thes witnes > attested by us > > John Coe her > Samuell Moore Isbell Blomfel. > Marke > s > ----------------------------

www.mnhs.org/library death certificates type in last name and up comes the Sackett's who died in MN from 1908. the information given is helpful, tho incomplete. Death certif with more info can be purchased through the MN Hist Soci for $8.00 - www.olmstedhistory.com/library has searchable indexes for the Olmsted County military, township histories, vital records, and more. Dianne Cobb -----Original Message----- From: Cobb, Dianne Sent: Thu 2/27/2003 8:29 PM To: 'SACKETT-L@rootsweb.com' Cc: Subject: RE: [SACKETT-L] Website Updates The newenglandancestors.org newsletter Feb 24th has 3 new databases: Marriage Records of the First Church, Westfield, Massachusetts, 1781 - 1835 (There are 49 Sackets records) Baptisms Performed in the Church of Christ, Westfield, Massachusetts, 1679 - 1836 (There are at least 135 Sacket baptisms, one of which is Zavan Sacket, son of Isaac and Eliza baptized 2 Sept 1750) Register of Deaths of the First Church, Westfield, Massachusetts, 1728 - 1836 (83 Sacket names appear) The above records were abstracted by the staff of the Westfield Athenaeum in 1950. (name of the public library on the square in Westfield) At this point it is too much for me to input all the data into an e-mail. If you subscribe to the newsletter or are a member of the New England Historic Genealogical Society your password will get you into the newsletter and databases. Dianne -----Original Message----- From: Carroll Lawson [mailto:clawson@cp-tel.net] Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2003 9:54 AM To: SACKETT-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SACKETT-L] Website Updates ----- Original Message ----- From: <thurmonking@netscape.net> To: <SACKETT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2003 1:12 AM Subject: [SACKETT-L] Website Updates > Hello Sackett Searchers: > > I have uploaded updates to the Sackett Headstones and Sacketts of America websites. Some information has been added but most of the updates are links between the two sites. I THINK I have all the individuals for whom we have a connection on the index pages of the Headstones site [except the Unknown Surnames] linked to the individual on the Sacketts of America website. I still have some headstone pictures, that have been submitted, to process and upload and add to the indices. > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com~sackettheadstones/ > Thurmon The link above is not accurate, should read; http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~sackettheadstones/ Good Morning Butch Lawson ==== SACKETT Mailing List ==== Visit the SACKETT-L Web Page at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~sidersn/sackett ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Genealogical and historical research continues to yield new information to synthesize, expand and develop new knowledge.. Ontario Co NY and Crawford Co PA were empty areas of wilderness in the latter part of the 18th and early 19th century. Various Alden men, among others, obtained very large tracts of land in Ontario Co and Crawford Co. I mention Alden here because Rowland was married to an Edson whose line derived from an Alden line. Rowland Sacket and his Edson in-laws first moved to Ontario Co NY. Rowland then moved to Crawford Co PA 1816 at the same time his dad moved from MA. Both taking advantage of Timothy Alden's and a Sackett's land sale opportunities. Censuses - I wonder if Harvey and Ursula lived with relatives in MA and moved to PA when Zavan did? Just as I wonder if Laura B. the infant stayed in NY when her father/mother moved to PA. There is a pattern of Rowland not being available for his children as reflected in the Crawford Co 1830 census where Ursula (Sacket) Chase household had children too old for Ursula to be their mother. It is suggested that these children were Ursula's brother Edson and sister Harriet. Rollin/Hollin appears in the 1830 Cattaraugus Co census without the younger children. ----Original Message----- From: Thurmon E King [mailto:thurmonking@juno.com] Sent: Mon 10/20/2003 10:58 PM To: SACKETT-L@rootsweb.com Cc: Subject: Re: [SACKETT-L] Roland/Rowland/Rolin/Rollin Sacket/Sackett Dianne: Not having my data from the exchanges last February, I retrieved all the exchanges concerning the Sacketts in Ontario Co.,NY; Crawford Co., PA ; and Ashtabula Co., OH to determine what you were referring to. I regret that you felt that I criticized your theory concerning the Rowland Sacket found in the 1810 census for Ontario Co., NY. My only intention was to indicate that there are some puzzling inconsistences in the information we have for the family of 583-Rolin Sackett and what we have found in the 1810 census. Rowland Sacket found in the 1810 census for Ontario Co., NY was listed as the only infividual in the household and I assumed that he was a single person: Sacket, Rowland Year: 1810; State: NY; County: Ontario; Township: Honeoye Roll: M252_33 Page: 203 Census: 000 10 - 000 00 The information I have in my database indicates that #583-Rolin Sackett was married (on, or before), 11 Mar 1807, to Lovina Edson at Montgomery, Hampden Co. MA and had a son, Harvey (b. 1807), and a daughter, Ursula (b. 1809); both born in MA. The family of the Roland Sacket found in the 1810 Norwick census fits that description: Sacket, Roland Year: 1810; State: MA; County: Hampshire; Township: Norwick Roll: M252_19 Page: 110 Census: 100 10 - 101 00 In the following post you presented some information that raises a question: From: "Cobb, Dianne" <Dianne.Cobb@FairfaxCounty.gov> Subject: RE: [SACKETT-L] Sacketts in Naples, Ontario Co., NY Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 15:32:21 -0500 I am curious about the Rowland Sacket 1810 census male 26 - 45, he and David Tiffany moved to Ontario Co in 1808. Rowland was not in the 1820 Ontario Co census. Pd taxes for a time through about 1813/14. Where did he go? James Edson, male 26 - 45, showed up in 1810 Ontario Co., census in township adjacent to Rowland Sackett's. Was this James Edson related to Lovina Edson who married a Rowland Sackett in 1807 in Norwich, MA (now, Huntington)? James Edson, and James Edson, jr were in Ontario Co 1820 census. Did Rowland Sacket move back to MA, Russell township, or did he move to Crawford Co, PA? ---------- end --------- My question would be; If 583-Rolin was married in MA in or before 1807; and if his first two children were born in MA before 1810 ... Then, was he travelling back and forth between the two locations, or could it be that some of the records we hare are dealing with two different Roland Sacketts? And if there were two different Roland Sacketts who lived in Ontario Co. then when did the first one leave and the second one arrive? The information you presented in the present message could be consistant with 583-Rolin being the one in the 1810 census in MA. He and his family could have been in MA in 1810 and moved to Ontario Co., NY between the birth of Orlinda in MA in 1811 and the birth of the next two children, Julia and Laura. Ten years between the censuses leaves us with a long period of time in which a family can make more than one move and other records are necessary to fill the gaps. And ... As usual, I have more questions than I have answers. Thurmon On Mon, 20 Oct 2003 08:06:23 -0400 "Cobb, Dianne" <Dianne.Cobb@fairfaxcounty.gov> writes: > Good morning, > > Ted Mudge wrote me this weekend that one of the death certificates > for Laura B. (Sacket) Chase's sons, Harvey E. Chase, indicates that > Laura B. Sacket was born in Ontario Co NY as well as her husband, > Martin L. Chase. > > Laura was born either March 1815 or March 1816. > > Last February I wrote to the Sackett-L my theory of Zavan's son, > Rolin, living in Ontario from 1808 - 1816 based on Wayne Co NY > (earlier part of Ontario Co., NY) history book, Ontario Co NY 1810 > census record and Ontario Co. tax records that I had obtained on my > visit there. > > My theory was criticized by someone pointing to the 1810 Norwich, MA > census which has a Roland Sackett next to Zavan Sacket. They > indicated that because Roland lived next to Zavan the Ontario Co > Rolin was someone else. > > Since then, I found: > > 1810 Norwich census was alphabetical, e.g. one found no T's or A's > living in the S's census section > > Rollin was the eldest of Zavan's children. Based on his death date > from his son John's Civil War pension file (Feb, 1863) and on the > listing of ages of the Sacket brothers when they died as found in > Joseph Sacket's obituary - Rollin was 83 yrs old, he then was born > in 1780, placing him as the eldest. > > Zavan Sacket moved to Crawford Co PA in 1816 (correspondingly, > Rollin did not appear in the 1817 tax records for Ontario Co NY) > about the time rollin moved out of the County. > > The Roland Sacket in the 1810 census continued in the MA County area > for yrs as well as his son (Roland was the son of Abner - have his > 1787 birth record) > > Further evidence of Rollin being the Zavan son are the Edson's > (brother and father of Lovina, Rollin's 1st wife)living in Ontario > Co from 1810 - 1826. > > I am forwarding under separate cover copies of the above cited > records. > > > Dianne Cobb ==== SACKETT Mailing List ==== RootsWeb blocks attachments. 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Dianne: Not having my data from the exchanges last February, I retrieved all the exchanges concerning the Sacketts in Ontario Co.,NY; Crawford Co., PA ; and Ashtabula Co., OH to determine what you were referring to. I regret that you felt that I criticized your theory concerning the Rowland Sacket found in the 1810 census for Ontario Co., NY. My only intention was to indicate that there are some puzzling inconsistences in the information we have for the family of 583-Rolin Sackett and what we have found in the 1810 census. Rowland Sacket found in the 1810 census for Ontario Co., NY was listed as the only infividual in the household and I assumed that he was a single person: Sacket, Rowland Year: 1810; State: NY; County: Ontario; Township: Honeoye Roll: M252_33 Page: 203 Census: 000 10 - 000 00 The information I have in my database indicates that #583-Rolin Sackett was married (on, or before), 11 Mar 1807, to Lovina Edson at Montgomery, Hampden Co. MA and had a son, Harvey (b. 1807), and a daughter, Ursula (b. 1809); both born in MA. The family of the Roland Sacket found in the 1810 Norwick census fits that description: Sacket, Roland Year: 1810; State: MA; County: Hampshire; Township: Norwick Roll: M252_19 Page: 110 Census: 100 10 - 101 00 In the following post you presented some information that raises a question: From: "Cobb, Dianne" <Dianne.Cobb@FairfaxCounty.gov> Subject: RE: [SACKETT-L] Sacketts in Naples, Ontario Co., NY Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 15:32:21 -0500 I am curious about the Rowland Sacket 1810 census male 26 - 45, he and David Tiffany moved to Ontario Co in 1808. Rowland was not in the 1820 Ontario Co census. Pd taxes for a time through about 1813/14. Where did he go? James Edson, male 26 - 45, showed up in 1810 Ontario Co., census in township adjacent to Rowland Sackett's. Was this James Edson related to Lovina Edson who married a Rowland Sackett in 1807 in Norwich, MA (now, Huntington)? James Edson, and James Edson, jr were in Ontario Co 1820 census. Did Rowland Sacket move back to MA, Russell township, or did he move to Crawford Co, PA? ---------- end --------- My question would be; If 583-Rolin was married in MA in or before 1807; and if his first two children were born in MA before 1810 ... Then, was he travelling back and forth between the two locations, or could it be that some of the records we hare are dealing with two different Roland Sacketts? And if there were two different Roland Sacketts who lived in Ontario Co. then when did the first one leave and the second one arrive? The information you presented in the present message could be consistant with 583-Rolin being the one in the 1810 census in MA. He and his family could have been in MA in 1810 and moved to Ontario Co., NY between the birth of Orlinda in MA in 1811 and the birth of the next two children, Julia and Laura. Ten years between the censuses leaves us with a long period of time in which a family can make more than one move and other records are necessary to fill the gaps. And ... As usual, I have more questions than I have answers. Thurmon On Mon, 20 Oct 2003 08:06:23 -0400 "Cobb, Dianne" <Dianne.Cobb@fairfaxcounty.gov> writes: > Good morning, > > Ted Mudge wrote me this weekend that one of the death certificates > for Laura B. (Sacket) Chase's sons, Harvey E. Chase, indicates that > Laura B. Sacket was born in Ontario Co NY as well as her husband, > Martin L. Chase. > > Laura was born either March 1815 or March 1816. > > Last February I wrote to the Sackett-L my theory of Zavan's son, > Rolin, living in Ontario from 1808 - 1816 based on Wayne Co NY > (earlier part of Ontario Co., NY) history book, Ontario Co NY 1810 > census record and Ontario Co. tax records that I had obtained on my > visit there. > > My theory was criticized by someone pointing to the 1810 Norwich, MA > census which has a Roland Sackett next to Zavan Sacket. They > indicated that because Roland lived next to Zavan the Ontario Co > Rolin was someone else. > > Since then, I found: > > 1810 Norwich census was alphabetical, e.g. one found no T's or A's > living in the S's census section > > Rollin was the eldest of Zavan's children. Based on his death date > from his son John's Civil War pension file (Feb, 1863) and on the > listing of ages of the Sacket brothers when they died as found in > Joseph Sacket's obituary - Rollin was 83 yrs old, he then was born > in 1780, placing him as the eldest. > > Zavan Sacket moved to Crawford Co PA in 1816 (correspondingly, > Rollin did not appear in the 1817 tax records for Ontario Co NY) > about the time rollin moved out of the County. > > The Roland Sacket in the 1810 census continued in the MA County area > for yrs as well as his son (Roland was the son of Abner - have his > 1787 birth record) > > Further evidence of Rollin being the Zavan son are the Edson's > (brother and father of Lovina, Rollin's 1st wife)living in Ontario > Co from 1810 - 1826. > > I am forwarding under separate cover copies of the above cited > records. > > > Dianne Cobb

Does anyone have a thought on this? Richard Sackett, living in New York at the time, married Margery Sleade/Slade in May 1699. Among their children listed in Charles Weygant's book is a Josiah Crego Sackett who married a Miss Douglass. Margery's first husband was Stephen Crego who was the father of her son, Josias Crego, born 1683 per a website. Josias married Annetje Elsworth 4 Mar.1703/04, and they resided in Dutchess County at the same time as Richard and Margery lived there. The website has Josias Crego dying in New Milford, CT. Weygant has that Josiah Crego Sackett lived in New Milford, CT. prior to his death. I know it is possible, but doesn't it seem odd that Richard and Margery would name their last son Josiah Crego Sackett when they already had a Josias Crego? In Roy Crego's book, "A Selective History of the Crego Family", the author believes that the Josiah Crego mentioned in the will made by Richard Sackett in 1744 was the first son of Margery. This will was probated in April 1746, and Josias Crego is last mentioned in Dutchess County in June 1747 and is believed to have died close to that time. His son, Stephen Crego, made his will in Dutchess County in 1760, and mentioned his mother, Ann, in this will. It looks like to me someone has these two mixed up. Has anyone more information on this? Thanks, Blanche McKay

The Ontario/Wayne County reference for Rowland Sackett appearing in 1808 in Ontario/Wayne Co NY is:. History Of Wayne County, New York; with Illustrations Descriptive of its Scenery, Palatial Residences, Public Building, Fine Books, and Important Manufactories, From original sketches by artists of the highest ability, [McIntosh, W.H.] Philadelphia: Everts, Ensign & Everts, 716 Filbert STreet 1877 Press of.B. Lippincott & Co., Philadelphia, Penn'a 1877. Press of W.E. Morrison & Co., Ovid, New York 1976 p. 185 Last paragraph of p. 185 reads: <The town of Walworth, NY write up contains the following: > "A year later, in the year 1808, David Tiffany and Rowland Sackett, from Massachusetts, and Jesse Arnold and David Foskett came in. A son and daughter of the latter are living in the town. In 1809, Joseph Stickland, brother to Samuel, died at the age of eighty six......." Further thoughts I've had since writing earlier today are the following: 1. Laura B. Chase was born approximately the time that Rowland left Ontario/Wayne Co for PA - because she was so newly born, she may have been left with an Edson relative to be taken care of while he and Lovina cover wagoned/rafted to Crawford Co PA. 2. Determining the day/month/year that the Norwich twp and Ontario, Co censuses were taken. 3. As you recall from the Surrogate/Circuit Court information that I provided earlier, Rowland/Rollin was in Cattaraugus Co NY by 1829, if not earlier, after his wife, Lovina died in 1824 in Crawford Co PA. He married the widow Permelia/Parmelia Chamberlain, appearing in the 1830 Cattaraugus Co NY census. He also had 2 or 3 children born to him in Cattaraugus Co NY before returning to Crawford Co PA. He had his NY contacts. Dianne Cobb -----Original Message----- From: Cobb, Dianne Sent: Mon 10/20/2003 8:06 AM To: SACKETT-L@rootsweb.com; SACKETT-L@rootsweb.com Cc: Subject: RE: [SACKETT-L] Roland/Rowland/Rolin/Rollin Sacket/Sackett Good morning, Ted Mudge wrote me this weekend that one of the death certificates for Laura B. (Sacket) Chase's sons, Harvey E. Chase, indicates that Laura B. Sacket was born in Ontario Co NY as well as her husband, Martin L. Chase. Laura was born either March 1815 or March 1816. Last February I wrote to the Sackett-L my theory of Zavan's son, Rolin, living in Ontario from 1808 - 1816 based on Wayne Co NY (earlier part of Ontario Co., NY) history book, Ontario Co NY 1810 census record and Ontario Co. tax records that I had obtained on my visit there. My theory was criticized by someone pointing to the 1810 Norwich, MA census which has a Roland Sackett next to Zavan Sacket. They indicated that because Roland lived next to Zavan the Ontario Co Rolin was someone else. Since then, I found: 1810 Norwich census was alphabetical, e.g. one found no T's or A's living in the S's census section Rollin was the eldest of Zavan's children. Based on his death date from his son John's Civil War pension file (Feb, 1863) and on the listing of ages of the Sacket brothers when they died as found in Joseph Sacket's obituary - Rollin was 83 yrs old, he then was born in 1780, placing him as the eldest. Zavan Sacket moved to Crawford Co PA in 1816 (correspondingly, Rollin did not appear in the 1817 tax records for Ontario Co NY) about the time rollin moved out of the County. The Roland Sacket in the 1810 census continued in the MA County area for yrs as well as his son (Roland was the son of Abner - have his 1787 birth record) Further evidence of Rollin being the Zavan son are the Edson's (brother and father of Lovina, Rollin's 1st wife)living in Ontario Co from 1810 - 1826. I am forwarding under separate cover copies of the above cited records. Dianne Cobb -----Original Message----- From: thurmonking@netscape.net [mailto:thurmonking@netscape.net] Sent: Sat 2/22/2003 11:19 AM To: SACKETT-L@rootsweb.com Cc: Subject: RE: [SACKETT-L] Roland/Rowland/Rolin/Rollin Sacket/Sackett Yes; That is another thing one discovers while searching the census images. Especially when comparing the 1850 with the 1880 censuses. I have found more than one instance of the parents reporting one birth place in 1850 and the child reporting a different birth place for the parent in 1880. And, of course, the problem of the enumerators spelling the name the way they heard it, or how they thought it should be spelled. Thurmon BTW I am always having people spelling my name as Thurmond, Therman, Thurman, or Truman. When I was driving a truck, I even had people to confuse my name with the name of the company that makes refrigeration units; Thermo King and had one dispatcher who called me "Reefer" or "Reef" "Cobb, Dianne" <Dianne.Cobb@FairfaxCounty.gov> wrote: >Another Girl Thing - tho Laura and her family believed her life began >when she married Martin in Catt Co circa 1832, it may have begun in >Ontario co in 1816/1814 prior to their moving to Crawford Co in time for >the 1820 census. > >Or it may have begun in MA using the theory that they moved directly >from MA to PA in 1817. > >-----Original Message----- >From: K Powell [mailto:grannytoad@yahoo.com] >Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 6:17 PM >To: SACKETT-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [SACKETT-L] Roland/Rowland/Rolin/Rollin Sacket/Sackett > > >--- Ted Mudge <mudgekin@earthlink.net> wrote: >> Here is an excerpt from Laura (Sackett) Chase's newspaper obituary: >> "In this city, Thursday night Nov. 5, 1896, Laura B. Chase, aged 80 >years, 7 >> months and 5 days. Laura B. Sackett was born in Cattaraugus county, >New >> York, in 1816." Doing the math, I come up with a birth date of 31 >March >> 1816. > >It's a Girl Thing. I've run across that before, including a >great-grandmother >and her sisters - who also changed names as they went along. Where do >you think >the old adage came from "Never ask a woman her age"? > >__________________________________________________ >Do you Yahoo!? >Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more >http://taxes.yahoo.com/ > > >==== SACKETT Mailing List ==== >GEN-NEWBIE-L: No question is too elementary and the atmosphere is >relaxed & friendly. 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Good morning, Ted Mudge wrote me this weekend that one of the death certificates for Laura B. (Sacket) Chase's sons, Harvey E. Chase, indicates that Laura B. Sacket was born in Ontario Co NY as well as her husband, Martin L. Chase. Laura was born either March 1815 or March 1816. Last February I wrote to the Sackett-L my theory of Zavan's son, Rolin, living in Ontario from 1808 - 1816 based on Wayne Co NY (earlier part of Ontario Co., NY) history book, Ontario Co NY 1810 census record and Ontario Co. tax records that I had obtained on my visit there. My theory was criticized by someone pointing to the 1810 Norwich, MA census which has a Roland Sackett next to Zavan Sacket. They indicated that because Roland lived next to Zavan the Ontario Co Rolin was someone else. Since then, I found: 1810 Norwich census was alphabetical, e.g. one found no T's or A's living in the S's census section Rollin was the eldest of Zavan's children. Based on his death date from his son John's Civil War pension file (Feb, 1863) and on the listing of ages of the Sacket brothers when they died as found in Joseph Sacket's obituary - Rollin was 83 yrs old, he then was born in 1780, placing him as the eldest. Zavan Sacket moved to Crawford Co PA in 1816 (correspondingly, Rollin did not appear in the 1817 tax records for Ontario Co NY) about the time rollin moved out of the County. The Roland Sacket in the 1810 census continued in the MA County area for yrs as well as his son (Roland was the son of Abner - have his 1787 birth record) Further evidence of Rollin being the Zavan son are the Edson's (brother and father of Lovina, Rollin's 1st wife)living in Ontario Co from 1810 - 1826. I am forwarding under separate cover copies of the above cited records. Dianne Cobb -----Original Message----- From: thurmonking@netscape.net [mailto:thurmonking@netscape.net] Sent: Sat 2/22/2003 11:19 AM To: SACKETT-L@rootsweb.com Cc: Subject: RE: [SACKETT-L] Roland/Rowland/Rolin/Rollin Sacket/Sackett Yes; That is another thing one discovers while searching the census images. Especially when comparing the 1850 with the 1880 censuses. I have found more than one instance of the parents reporting one birth place in 1850 and the child reporting a different birth place for the parent in 1880. And, of course, the problem of the enumerators spelling the name the way they heard it, or how they thought it should be spelled. Thurmon BTW I am always having people spelling my name as Thurmond, Therman, Thurman, or Truman. When I was driving a truck, I even had people to confuse my name with the name of the company that makes refrigeration units; Thermo King and had one dispatcher who called me "Reefer" or "Reef" "Cobb, Dianne" <Dianne.Cobb@FairfaxCounty.gov> wrote: >Another Girl Thing - tho Laura and her family believed her life began >when she married Martin in Catt Co circa 1832, it may have begun in >Ontario co in 1816/1814 prior to their moving to Crawford Co in time for >the 1820 census. > >Or it may have begun in MA using the theory that they moved directly >from MA to PA in 1817. > >-----Original Message----- >From: K Powell [mailto:grannytoad@yahoo.com] >Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 6:17 PM >To: SACKETT-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [SACKETT-L] Roland/Rowland/Rolin/Rollin Sacket/Sackett > > >--- Ted Mudge <mudgekin@earthlink.net> wrote: >> Here is an excerpt from Laura (Sackett) Chase's newspaper obituary: >> "In this city, Thursday night Nov. 5, 1896, Laura B. Chase, aged 80 >years, 7 >> months and 5 days. Laura B. Sackett was born in Cattaraugus county, >New >> York, in 1816." Doing the math, I come up with a birth date of 31 >March >> 1816. > >It's a Girl Thing. I've run across that before, including a >great-grandmother >and her sisters - who also changed names as they went along. Where do >you think >the old adage came from "Never ask a woman her age"? > >__________________________________________________ >Do you Yahoo!? >Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more >http://taxes.yahoo.com/ > > >==== SACKETT Mailing List ==== >GEN-NEWBIE-L: No question is too elementary and the atmosphere is >relaxed & friendly. 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Fred: while waiting for my data to be recovered; I've been toying with some ideas for a website for TSFA. I've put some pages at http://freepages.family.rootsweb.com/~teking/ Look at them and give me any suggestions that will make them better. Thurmon

'ello; I'm trying to put together a list of SACKETT researchers who have SACKETT related websites so that I can provide links to them. So then, if you have a website with SACKETT material on it ... Would you send me the URL/ Regards, Thurmon Accurate Information Is Our Goal

Hello Sackett Searchers; On the 8th I received a note from an individual who had some pictures of members of the DEWEY family who were connected to the SACKETTs asking if I knew of family members who would like to have them. I responded that I've had no correspondence with anyone from that line of the family but I would like to have copies of the pictures. He responded that if I would give him my address he would mail the originals to me. The pictures arrived yesterday. Two of the pictures appear to have been taken by a R. H. Dewey, 47 North St., Pittsfield, Mass. Eunice Butler; mother-in-law of George Howland Dewey #6994; b. 18 Oct 1816 [Weygant #3518] Mary M. Dewey #6991 [Weygant #3515]; b. 17 Sep 1809, m. 2 Mar 1843, Chauncey Dewey and the other was by F. Forshew; Photographer; Hudson, NY. Samuel T. Bradley; husband of Dewey #7000 [Weygant #3525, Frances H. Dewey] ------ Thurmon Accurate Information is our Goal

I too lost a hard drive but being over cautious I have always made my back ups on 2 disks or now CD RWs, alternating them for each session. Also make GEDCOMS every couple of months and give them out to a sister and daughter for storage. Guess I always expected to be the only one in the world using a particular genealogy program. Do them on CD-RWs and exchange them. Expect my car to break down all the time also but won't go into what I carry in the trunk.... My family does sometimes raise their eybrows. But works for me. I did lose e mail addresses though and now print these out periodically.

Thurman, Thank you for the warning. I also lost a lot of work when my hard drive got knocked out by a power surge. I thought I was protected by my power surge strip but low and behold, I never had a phone connection on the power strip so that is how my computer got knocked out and I lost a lot of work- genealogy and all. Shortly after that my second computer was knocked out because of the same situation. I never realized the real problem till the second one got knocked out too. I still have to get the second one fixed and am in the same boat you are in. I can't afford the repair bill. I do have the hard drive now but I still have to get someone to fix it for me. GET A POWER SUPPLY WITH SURGE PROTECTION PLUS PHONE PLUG-INS!!!! I am glad it never cost you any more than it is but it is a bad lesson to learn the hard way. Pauline