Thurmon, I have done quite a bit of Vermont research re: the Revolutionary War time. One of my husband's ancestors is listed in Vermont Militia Rolls and then is in Canada as a Loyalist. One person I talked to in the Historical Society in Rutland, VT said there is some evidence that some of the Vermont Militia might have had some kind of agreement with the British. Anyway, my daughter could belong to the DAR and the Canadian Loyalist organization for the same person. So Reuben could have actually been a Loyalist even enrolled in a Militia unit..maybe depended upon the militia unit? Am going to be talking to an historian about Ethan Allen in the next few days, since there was some kind of lawsuit between his family and mine right after the Rev. War. Will ask him about the Loyalist/Milita question. Louella -----Original Message----- From: Thurmon E King [mailto:thurmonking@juno.com] Sent: Monday, November 24, 2003 4:14 PM To: SACKETT-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SACKETT-L] Sackett Family Blanche: Thanks for the information. All I can say is that I'm going to have some "fun" sorting out all the info that has come in during the past few weeks ... Along with what I've searched out which relates to these families. To add a new "twist" to some of the info that has come: In Wendy's posting of the letters by Charles Weygant we see that he was considering a Reuben Sackett as a son of Richard, Jr. but it appears that he changed his mind when he received some probate papers from New Milford, CT which did not list a Reuben among the heirs. Then Katherine Russell sent the bit about a Reuben Sackett being involved in the trial and hanging of David Redden in Bennington, VT. We have 710-Mary Sackett marrying Israel Canfield and moving, c1768, to Arlington, VT [just north of Bennington]. The information I have for Mary (Sackett) Canfield is that she was a Loyalist while her husband was active in service against the Crown. In the information I have found for Reuben Sackett is that he and his son, Enoch, both served in the Rev. War from VT. Reuben's service was in 1780 from Pownal, VT [a few miles south of Bennington], near the end of the war and following the 1778 trial of David Reddin at which time Reuben was lashed for helping David Redden escape prior to his trial and conviction. So, did Reuben help David Redden escape because he agreed with David, or was it because was a friend and knew him personally? In the information relating to the "Mystery Sacketts of Vermont" I had one source which has Reuben taking the oath of allegance about the time Vermont granted a general amnesty to those who had opposed the revolution; provided they take an oath of allegance. This had been a mystery to me considering the fact that Reuben had served in the Rev. War. But it appears that it could have been the result of him being punished because of his assistance to David Redden. Reuben's two sons, Enoch and Reuben, jr. also took the oath. That is enough for now, Thurmon On Sun, 23 Nov 2003 22:33:02 -0500 Harry McKay <bhmckay5743@juno.com> writes: > Thurmon, > > I did not answer your question on the last message of when the land > sale > took place between Margery and John Sackett and Hendrick Nase. It > was on > 10 May 1749. > > A real mystery on the dates of birth of Richard Sackett, Jr.'s > children. > The Dutchess County record shows a daughter, Elisabeth, baptized on > 26 > May 1739. The Barbour Collection for New Milford, Ct. has Cathren > (spelled that way) and Elisabeth as twins, b. 14 Oct. 1751; Richard > b. 15 > Jul. 1749. If Richard Sackett, Jr. was born ca 1701, he would have > been > about 50 years old when some of these children were born. His > daughter > Margery married David Green 12 Jul. 1759, and Mary married Israel > Canfield 6 Apr.1758. Neither one of their births is given in the > book, > but a website gives Mary's as 5 Oct.1742. Mary would have been 16 > years > old at her marriage which was not uncommon. If Margery was 18 or 20 > years old, she would have been born ca 1739-1741. Maybe Richard > married > in his late 30's. According to Weygant, he moved his "family" to > New > Milford in 1746. I do wish we could find a record of his marriage. > > I went down to the public library today and plowed through some > Dutch > records but did not find anything of substance. I do have some more > names to check for the wife of Richard. > > On the Catherine Sackett marrying Andreas Theodor Larsdatter, > another one > has Thomas Wolcott marrying that same person. If I remember how > some > Swedish names went in the old days, the Andreas could be a female, > and > was identified as Lar's datter (daughter). But, I think we can put > that > one to rest. > > In a book at the library on "Inhabitants of Colonial New > York-Excerpted > from the Documentary History of the State of New York", by Edmund > Bailey > O'Callaghan, there was one census for Richard Sackett. It said the > census was taken about 1703. This had 1 male 16-65; 1 female; 2 > male > children; 2 female children; 3 male negroes; 1 female negro. The > negroes > had to be older in years, as negro children were listed separately > on the > census. > > Something else I just happened to spot in the Barbour collection was > the > marriage of a Rebecka Sackett, of Westfield, to Salmon Carrington of > New > Milford, Ct. on 6 Nov. 1771. You may already have this. The > nearest I > could find in Weygant's book is # 627 Rebecca b. 10 Jun. 1746. She > married M.S. Clarenton according to Weygant. I'm not sure if they > are > the same. > > All for now, > Blanche McKay > > > ==== SACKETT Mailing List ==== > If you haven't already, please send in your introduction to the > list. > For examples, visit > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~sidersn/sackett > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > ==== SACKETT Mailing List ==== RootsWeb blocks attachments. So sharing photos is not possible through the list; send off-list individually. If you have a text file you wish to share, save it as text and insert the text into your message. ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Blanche: Thanks for the information. All I can say is that I'm going to have some "fun" sorting out all the info that has come in during the past few weeks ... Along with what I've searched out which relates to these families. To add a new "twist" to some of the info that has come: In Wendy's posting of the letters by Charles Weygant we see that he was considering a Reuben Sackett as a son of Richard, Jr. but it appears that he changed his mind when he received some probate papers from New Milford, CT which did not list a Reuben among the heirs. Then Katherine Russell sent the bit about a Reuben Sackett being involved in the trial and hanging of David Redden in Bennington, VT. We have 710-Mary Sackett marrying Israel Canfield and moving, c1768, to Arlington, VT [just north of Bennington]. The information I have for Mary (Sackett) Canfield is that she was a Loyalist while her husband was active in service against the Crown. In the information I have found for Reuben Sackett is that he and his son, Enoch, both served in the Rev. War from VT. Reuben's service was in 1780 from Pownal, VT [a few miles south of Bennington], near the end of the war and following the 1778 trial of David Reddin at which time Reuben was lashed for helping David Redden escape prior to his trial and conviction. So, did Reuben help David Redden escape because he agreed with David, or was it because was a friend and knew him personally? In the information relating to the "Mystery Sacketts of Vermont" I had one source which has Reuben taking the oath of allegance about the time Vermont granted a general amnesty to those who had opposed the revolution; provided they take an oath of allegance. This had been a mystery to me considering the fact that Reuben had served in the Rev. War. But it appears that it could have been the result of him being punished because of his assistance to David Redden. Reuben's two sons, Enoch and Reuben, jr. also took the oath. That is enough for now, Thurmon On Sun, 23 Nov 2003 22:33:02 -0500 Harry McKay <bhmckay5743@juno.com> writes: > Thurmon, > > I did not answer your question on the last message of when the land > sale > took place between Margery and John Sackett and Hendrick Nase. It > was on > 10 May 1749. > > A real mystery on the dates of birth of Richard Sackett, Jr.'s > children. > The Dutchess County record shows a daughter, Elisabeth, baptized on > 26 > May 1739. The Barbour Collection for New Milford, Ct. has Cathren > (spelled that way) and Elisabeth as twins, b. 14 Oct. 1751; Richard > b. 15 > Jul. 1749. If Richard Sackett, Jr. was born ca 1701, he would have > been > about 50 years old when some of these children were born. His > daughter > Margery married David Green 12 Jul. 1759, and Mary married Israel > Canfield 6 Apr.1758. Neither one of their births is given in the > book, > but a website gives Mary's as 5 Oct.1742. Mary would have been 16 > years > old at her marriage which was not uncommon. If Margery was 18 or 20 > years old, she would have been born ca 1739-1741. Maybe Richard > married > in his late 30's. According to Weygant, he moved his "family" to > New > Milford in 1746. I do wish we could find a record of his marriage. > > I went down to the public library today and plowed through some > Dutch > records but did not find anything of substance. I do have some more > names to check for the wife of Richard. > > On the Catherine Sackett marrying Andreas Theodor Larsdatter, > another one > has Thomas Wolcott marrying that same person. If I remember how > some > Swedish names went in the old days, the Andreas could be a female, > and > was identified as Lar's datter (daughter). But, I think we can put > that > one to rest. > > In a book at the library on "Inhabitants of Colonial New > York-Excerpted > from the Documentary History of the State of New York", by Edmund > Bailey > O'Callaghan, there was one census for Richard Sackett. It said the > census was taken about 1703. This had 1 male 16-65; 1 female; 2 > male > children; 2 female children; 3 male negroes; 1 female negro. The > negroes > had to be older in years, as negro children were listed separately > on the > census. > > Something else I just happened to spot in the Barbour collection was > the > marriage of a Rebecka Sackett, of Westfield, to Salmon Carrington of > New > Milford, Ct. on 6 Nov. 1771. You may already have this. The > nearest I > could find in Weygant's book is # 627 Rebecca b. 10 Jun. 1746. She > married M.S. Clarenton according to Weygant. I'm not sure if they > are > the same. > > All for now, > Blanche McKay > > > ==== SACKETT Mailing List ==== > If you haven't already, please send in your introduction to the > list. > For examples, visit > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~sidersn/sackett > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Ann, Since yours is the first request for me to work on a specific record, I can do that record first, then I will just start working my way through the NY records. I have already copied it when I was at the archives last week and I usually rename them to intelligent (right now they are numbered) and then put them on the web where anyone can check them out. If there are any other's in Capt. Mack's unit that you are interested then I can put them on list to copy on another trip (next for sure one is in Mar but I am not sure if I would get to it then depends on how many are on my list now). I am also forwarding your email to the Sackett List so that those that are much more knowledgeable will have the chance to help you also. Liesa On Sun, 23 Nov 2003 20:57:40 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time) "Ann H. Mack" <ahmack@sbcglobal.net> wrote: >I would like to know how to find more information >on these Military Records.....especially the one >for Jesse Sackett in Capt. Mack's Co of NY Mil. >This is the first connection that has been listed >for a Mack & Sackett. There are data that tie a >William/Warren Champion Mack with a Minerva >Sackett all from Sackett's Harbor NY. One data >source was her death certificate in Hyde Park, IL. >I would definitely be interested in the above >record. Thank you for any assistance. >Ann Mack > >-------Original Message------- > >From: Liesa Robarge >Date: Sunday, November 23, 2003 15:05:51 >To: ahmack@sbcglobal.net >Subject: PML Search Result matching Mack > >===================================================================== >A result of your requested PML search. To refine or >cancel this >search, please visit http://pml.rootsweb.com/ >===================================================================== >Source: SACKETT-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [SACKETT-L] Latest Military Records > > >I am not sure if any of them are from Long Island. They >only say the state >but I can let you know which ones are from NY. > >Disk One >Pension Record - Theophilus C Thomas (not Sackett >related) >Pension Record - John A. Brooks (not Sackett related) >Pension Record - Daniel B. Sackett (1812) - G15 NY Engs - >Widow Almera E. >Hunt >Military Record - Oliner Sackett (1812) - NY >Military Record - Norman Sackett (1812) - Capt McArthor >OH Mil >Military Record - Joseph Sackett (1812) - Capt Kellogg's >Co NY Mil >Military Record - Leander Sackett (1812) - Capt >McArthor's OH Mil >Military Record - Jesse Sackett (1812) - Capt Mack's NY >Mil >Military Record - Henry/Harvey Sackett - Capt Lucks Co OH >Mil - Wid. Mary >Sackett >Military Record - Daniel Sackett (1812 - Mass) Capt >Collins Mass Mil >Military Record - Clark Sackett - Capt Comstock's Conn >Mil >Military Record - George Noyer (wife Sackett) - K102 NY >Inf >Military Record - John A. Brooks (Civil) - >Military Record - Theophilus C. Thomas (Civil) >Military Record - Zavan J. Sackett (very large seems to >have served the >whole war) - D & I 49th NY Inf > >Disk Two >Military Record - Zavan J. Sackett (con't) >Military Record - DeLancey Sackett (Civil) - D83 OH Inf >Military Record - Daniel B Sackett - (Civil) G15 NY Engs >Military Record - Daniel Sackett or Sacket (1812) Capt W. >Colling's Co. Mass >Mil >Military Record - Clark Sackett (1812) - Capt Comstock >Conn Mil - Wid. Jane >P Sackett >Pension Record - DeLancey Sackett (Civil - Mothers >pension/Sarah Sackett) >D83 OH Inf > >Disk Three >Pension Record - John Sackett (1812) Surgeon's Mate 11 >Regt US Inf - Loraine >Sackett >Pension Record - Jesse Sackett (Substitute/1812) Capt >Mack's Co NY Mil - >Wid. Nancy Sackett >Pension Record - Charles H. Sackett (Civil) G179 NY Inf. > >Disk Four >Pension Record - Charles H. Sackett (Civil Con't) >Pension Record - Oliner Sackett (1812) - Capt Dunlap & >Hubbard's Co NY Mil - >Wid. Esther Sackett >Pension Record - Henry or Harvey Sackett (1812) - Capt >Luck's Co OH Mil - >Wid. Mary Sackett >Pension Record - Leaner Sackett (1812) - McArthur's OH >Mil - Wid. Eliza C. >Sackett >Pension Record - Joseph Sackett (1812) - Capt Kellogg's >Co NY Mil >Pension Record - Norman Sackett (1812) - Capt McArthur Co >OH Mil >Pension Record - Archie A. Sackett (Civil) - G2 US Col >Cav - Pension Father >Albert D. > >Disk Five >Pension Record (part) - Herbert H. Philips - A12 US Inf, >F211 PA Inf - Alias >Edward Sackett Civil has photo to bad not ours >Pension Record - Erastus Sackett (Civil) - K21 MO Inf, K1 >NE Mo HG - Wid. >Isabella Sackett >Pension Record - Daniel C. Sackett (Civil) - D126 NY Inf >- Wid. Mittie C. >Sackett > > >Liesa > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Tom Smith" <tsmith26@comcast.net> >To: <SACKETT-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2003 2:09 PM >Subject: Re: [SACKETT-L] Latest Military Records > > >> Liesa, I'd be interested to know if any were Long Island >>Sacketts. >> Tom >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Liesa Robarge" <lrobarge@charter.net> >> To: <SACKETT-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2003 12:08 PM >> Subject: [SACKETT-L] Latest Military Records >> >> >> > Well I was in the Washington DC area again and made >>copies of the >> following records. I will be getting them all online >>eventually but if >there >> are any you like to see sooner rather then latter please >>let me know (I >will >> probably do them in order as you see them). >> > >> > Liesa >> > >> > Disk One >> > Pension Record - Theophilus C Thomas (not Sackett >>related) >> > Pension Record - John A. Brooks (not Sackett related) >> > Pension Record - Daniel B. Sackett (1812) >> > Military Record - Oliner Sackett (1812) >> > Military Record - Norman Sackett (1812) >> > Military Record - Joseph Sackett (1812) >> > Military Record - Leander Sackett (1812) >> > Military Record - Jesse Sackett (1812) >> > Military Record - Henry or Harvey Sackett >> > Military Record - Daniel Sackett (1812 - Mass) >> > Military Record - Clark Sackett >> > Military Record - George Noyer (wife Sackett) >> > Military Record - John A. Brooks (Civil) >> > Military Record - Theophilus C. Thomas (Civil) >> > Military Record - Zavan J. Sackett (very large seems >>to have served the >> whole war) >> > >> > Disk Two >> > Military Record - Zavan J. Sackett (con't) >> > Military Record - DeLancey Sackett >> > Military Record - Daniel B Sackett >> > Military Record - Daniel Sackett or Sacket (1812 - >>Mass) >> > Military Record - Clark Sackett (1812) >> > Military Record - DeLancey Sackett (Civil - Mothers >>pension) >> > >> > Disk Three >> > Pension Record - John Sackett (1812 - Surgeon's Mate) >> > Pension Record - Jesse Sackett (1812) >> > Pension Record - Charles H. Sackett (Civil) >> > >> > Disk Four >> > Pension Record - Charles H. Sackett (Civil) >> > Pension Record - Oliner Sackett (1812) >> > Pension Record - Henry or Harvey Sackett (1812) >> > Pension Record - Leaner Sackett (1812) >> > Pension Record - Joseph Sackett (1812) >> > Pension Record - Norman Sackett (1812) >> > Pension Record - Archie A. Sackett (Civil - Pension >>for Father Albert >D. ) >> > >> > Disk Five >> > Pension Record (part) - Herbert H. Philips (Alias >>Edward Sackett Civil) >> has photo >> > Pension Record - Erastus Sackett (Civil) >> > Pension Record - Daniel C. Sackett (Civil) >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > ==== SACKETT Mailing List ==== >> > >>------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> > To post a message, address it >>to:sackett-l@rootsweb.com >> > To subscribe or unsubscribe, address it to: >> > sackett-l-request@rootsweb.com (SUBSCRIBE or >>UNSUBSCRIBE in the body) >> > >> > ============================== >> > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online >>genealogy >records, >> go to: >> > >>http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >> > >> > >> >> >> >> ==== SACKETT Mailing List ==== >> RootsWeb blocks HTML formatting in email messages. 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This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: wallace,smith,poole,sackett,hughes,franklin Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/5519/ChEBAIB/223 Message Board Post: mary sue was my grandmother, i was doing research and have hit a brick wall. mary sue was born in horatio,arkansas nov..04, 1904, and passed away nov. 06, 2002. her mother was catherine victoria smith humphries from horatio, arkansas, she also had a sister (emma lois humphries poole). anyone with info please contact me.

Thurmon, I did not answer your question on the last message of when the land sale took place between Margery and John Sackett and Hendrick Nase. It was on 10 May 1749. A real mystery on the dates of birth of Richard Sackett, Jr.'s children. The Dutchess County record shows a daughter, Elisabeth, baptized on 26 May 1739. The Barbour Collection for New Milford, Ct. has Cathren (spelled that way) and Elisabeth as twins, b. 14 Oct. 1751; Richard b. 15 Jul. 1749. If Richard Sackett, Jr. was born ca 1701, he would have been about 50 years old when some of these children were born. His daughter Margery married David Green 12 Jul. 1759, and Mary married Israel Canfield 6 Apr.1758. Neither one of their births is given in the book, but a website gives Mary's as 5 Oct.1742. Mary would have been 16 years old at her marriage which was not uncommon. If Margery was 18 or 20 years old, she would have been born ca 1739-1741. Maybe Richard married in his late 30's. According to Weygant, he moved his "family" to New Milford in 1746. I do wish we could find a record of his marriage. I went down to the public library today and plowed through some Dutch records but did not find anything of substance. I do have some more names to check for the wife of Richard. On the Catherine Sackett marrying Andreas Theodor Larsdatter, another one has Thomas Wolcott marrying that same person. If I remember how some Swedish names went in the old days, the Andreas could be a female, and was identified as Lar's datter (daughter). But, I think we can put that one to rest. In a book at the library on "Inhabitants of Colonial New York-Excerpted from the Documentary History of the State of New York", by Edmund Bailey O'Callaghan, there was one census for Richard Sackett. It said the census was taken about 1703. This had 1 male 16-65; 1 female; 2 male children; 2 female children; 3 male negroes; 1 female negro. The negroes had to be older in years, as negro children were listed separately on the census. Something else I just happened to spot in the Barbour collection was the marriage of a Rebecka Sackett, of Westfield, to Salmon Carrington of New Milford, Ct. on 6 Nov. 1771. You may already have this. The nearest I could find in Weygant's book is # 627 Rebecca b. 10 Jun. 1746. She married M.S. Clarenton according to Weygant. I'm not sure if they are the same. All for now, Blanche McKay

I am not sure if any of them are from Long Island. They only say the state but I can let you know which ones are from NY. Disk One Pension Record - Theophilus C Thomas (not Sackett related) Pension Record - John A. Brooks (not Sackett related) Pension Record - Daniel B. Sackett (1812) - G15 NY Engs - Widow Almera E. Hunt Military Record - Oliner Sackett (1812) - NY Military Record - Norman Sackett (1812) - Capt McArthor OH Mil Military Record - Joseph Sackett (1812) - Capt Kellogg's Co NY Mil Military Record - Leander Sackett (1812) - Capt McArthor's OH Mil Military Record - Jesse Sackett (1812) - Capt Mack's NY Mil Military Record - Henry/Harvey Sackett - Capt Lucks Co OH Mil - Wid. Mary Sackett Military Record - Daniel Sackett (1812 - Mass) Capt Collins Mass Mil Military Record - Clark Sackett - Capt Comstock's Conn Mil Military Record - George Noyer (wife Sackett) - K102 NY Inf Military Record - John A. Brooks (Civil) - Military Record - Theophilus C. Thomas (Civil) Military Record - Zavan J. Sackett (very large seems to have served the whole war) - D & I 49th NY Inf Disk Two Military Record - Zavan J. Sackett (con't) Military Record - DeLancey Sackett (Civil) - D83 OH Inf Military Record - Daniel B Sackett - (Civil) G15 NY Engs Military Record - Daniel Sackett or Sacket (1812) Capt W. Colling's Co. Mass Mil Military Record - Clark Sackett (1812) - Capt Comstock Conn Mil - Wid. Jane P Sackett Pension Record - DeLancey Sackett (Civil - Mothers pension/Sarah Sackett) D83 OH Inf Disk Three Pension Record - John Sackett (1812) Surgeon's Mate 11 Regt US Inf - Loraine Sackett Pension Record - Jesse Sackett (Substitute/1812) Capt Mack's Co NY Mil - Wid. Nancy Sackett Pension Record - Charles H. Sackett (Civil) G179 NY Inf. Disk Four Pension Record - Charles H. Sackett (Civil Con't) Pension Record - Oliner Sackett (1812) - Capt Dunlap & Hubbard's Co NY Mil - Wid. Esther Sackett Pension Record - Henry or Harvey Sackett (1812) - Capt Luck's Co OH Mil - Wid. Mary Sackett Pension Record - Leaner Sackett (1812) - McArthur's OH Mil - Wid. Eliza C. Sackett Pension Record - Joseph Sackett (1812) - Capt Kellogg's Co NY Mil Pension Record - Norman Sackett (1812) - Capt McArthur Co OH Mil Pension Record - Archie A. Sackett (Civil) - G2 US Col Cav - Pension Father Albert D. Disk Five Pension Record (part) - Herbert H. Philips - A12 US Inf, F211 PA Inf - Alias Edward Sackett Civil has photo to bad not ours Pension Record - Erastus Sackett (Civil) - K21 MO Inf, K1 NE Mo HG - Wid. Isabella Sackett Pension Record - Daniel C. Sackett (Civil) - D126 NY Inf - Wid. Mittie C. Sackett Liesa ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Smith" <tsmith26@comcast.net> To: <SACKETT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2003 2:09 PM Subject: Re: [SACKETT-L] Latest Military Records > Liesa, I'd be interested to know if any were Long Island Sacketts. > Tom > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Liesa Robarge" <lrobarge@charter.net> > To: <SACKETT-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2003 12:08 PM > Subject: [SACKETT-L] Latest Military Records > > > > Well I was in the Washington DC area again and made copies of the > following records. I will be getting them all online eventually but if there > are any you like to see sooner rather then latter please let me know (I will > probably do them in order as you see them). > > > > Liesa > > > > Disk One > > Pension Record - Theophilus C Thomas (not Sackett related) > > Pension Record - John A. Brooks (not Sackett related) > > Pension Record - Daniel B. Sackett (1812) > > Military Record - Oliner Sackett (1812) > > Military Record - Norman Sackett (1812) > > Military Record - Joseph Sackett (1812) > > Military Record - Leander Sackett (1812) > > Military Record - Jesse Sackett (1812) > > Military Record - Henry or Harvey Sackett > > Military Record - Daniel Sackett (1812 - Mass) > > Military Record - Clark Sackett > > Military Record - George Noyer (wife Sackett) > > Military Record - John A. Brooks (Civil) > > Military Record - Theophilus C. Thomas (Civil) > > Military Record - Zavan J. Sackett (very large seems to have served the > whole war) > > > > Disk Two > > Military Record - Zavan J. Sackett (con't) > > Military Record - DeLancey Sackett > > Military Record - Daniel B Sackett > > Military Record - Daniel Sackett or Sacket (1812 - Mass) > > Military Record - Clark Sackett (1812) > > Military Record - DeLancey Sackett (Civil - Mothers pension) > > > > Disk Three > > Pension Record - John Sackett (1812 - Surgeon's Mate) > > Pension Record - Jesse Sackett (1812) > > Pension Record - Charles H. Sackett (Civil) > > > > Disk Four > > Pension Record - Charles H. Sackett (Civil) > > Pension Record - Oliner Sackett (1812) > > Pension Record - Henry or Harvey Sackett (1812) > > Pension Record - Leaner Sackett (1812) > > Pension Record - Joseph Sackett (1812) > > Pension Record - Norman Sackett (1812) > > Pension Record - Archie A. Sackett (Civil - Pension for Father Albert D. ) > > > > Disk Five > > Pension Record (part) - Herbert H. Philips (Alias Edward Sackett Civil) > has photo > > Pension Record - Erastus Sackett (Civil) > > Pension Record - Daniel C. 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Liesa, I'd be interested to know if any were Long Island Sacketts. Tom ----- Original Message ----- From: "Liesa Robarge" <lrobarge@charter.net> To: <SACKETT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2003 12:08 PM Subject: [SACKETT-L] Latest Military Records > Well I was in the Washington DC area again and made copies of the following records. I will be getting them all online eventually but if there are any you like to see sooner rather then latter please let me know (I will probably do them in order as you see them). > > Liesa > > Disk One > Pension Record - Theophilus C Thomas (not Sackett related) > Pension Record - John A. Brooks (not Sackett related) > Pension Record - Daniel B. Sackett (1812) > Military Record - Oliner Sackett (1812) > Military Record - Norman Sackett (1812) > Military Record - Joseph Sackett (1812) > Military Record - Leander Sackett (1812) > Military Record - Jesse Sackett (1812) > Military Record - Henry or Harvey Sackett > Military Record - Daniel Sackett (1812 - Mass) > Military Record - Clark Sackett > Military Record - George Noyer (wife Sackett) > Military Record - John A. Brooks (Civil) > Military Record - Theophilus C. Thomas (Civil) > Military Record - Zavan J. Sackett (very large seems to have served the whole war) > > Disk Two > Military Record - Zavan J. Sackett (con't) > Military Record - DeLancey Sackett > Military Record - Daniel B Sackett > Military Record - Daniel Sackett or Sacket (1812 - Mass) > Military Record - Clark Sackett (1812) > Military Record - DeLancey Sackett (Civil - Mothers pension) > > Disk Three > Pension Record - John Sackett (1812 - Surgeon's Mate) > Pension Record - Jesse Sackett (1812) > Pension Record - Charles H. Sackett (Civil) > > Disk Four > Pension Record - Charles H. Sackett (Civil) > Pension Record - Oliner Sackett (1812) > Pension Record - Henry or Harvey Sackett (1812) > Pension Record - Leaner Sackett (1812) > Pension Record - Joseph Sackett (1812) > Pension Record - Norman Sackett (1812) > Pension Record - Archie A. Sackett (Civil - Pension for Father Albert D. ) > > Disk Five > Pension Record (part) - Herbert H. Philips (Alias Edward Sackett Civil) has photo > Pension Record - Erastus Sackett (Civil) > Pension Record - Daniel C. Sackett (Civil) > > > > > > > ==== SACKETT Mailing List ==== > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > To post a message, address it to:sackett-l@rootsweb.com > To subscribe or unsubscribe, address it to: > sackett-l-request@rootsweb.com (SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE in the body) > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Well I was in the Washington DC area again and made copies of the following records. I will be getting them all online eventually but if there are any you like to see sooner rather then latter please let me know (I will probably do them in order as you see them). Liesa Disk One Pension Record - Theophilus C Thomas (not Sackett related) Pension Record - John A. Brooks (not Sackett related) Pension Record - Daniel B. Sackett (1812) Military Record - Oliner Sackett (1812) Military Record - Norman Sackett (1812) Military Record - Joseph Sackett (1812) Military Record - Leander Sackett (1812) Military Record - Jesse Sackett (1812) Military Record - Henry or Harvey Sackett Military Record - Daniel Sackett (1812 - Mass) Military Record - Clark Sackett Military Record - George Noyer (wife Sackett) Military Record - John A. Brooks (Civil) Military Record - Theophilus C. Thomas (Civil) Military Record - Zavan J. Sackett (very large seems to have served the whole war) Disk Two Military Record - Zavan J. Sackett (con't) Military Record - DeLancey Sackett Military Record - Daniel B Sackett Military Record - Daniel Sackett or Sacket (1812 - Mass) Military Record - Clark Sackett (1812) Military Record - DeLancey Sackett (Civil - Mothers pension) Disk Three Pension Record - John Sackett (1812 - Surgeon's Mate) Pension Record - Jesse Sackett (1812) Pension Record - Charles H. Sackett (Civil) Disk Four Pension Record - Charles H. Sackett (Civil) Pension Record - Oliner Sackett (1812) Pension Record - Henry or Harvey Sackett (1812) Pension Record - Leaner Sackett (1812) Pension Record - Joseph Sackett (1812) Pension Record - Norman Sackett (1812) Pension Record - Archie A. Sackett (Civil - Pension for Father Albert D. ) Disk Five Pension Record (part) - Herbert H. Philips (Alias Edward Sackett Civil) has photo Pension Record - Erastus Sackett (Civil) Pension Record - Daniel C. Sackett (Civil)

Thurmon, I have spent quite a bit of time on the Internet trying to trace the parentage and correct spelling of Richard Sackett, Jr's wife. Not too much luck so far. In the baptismal records of the Dutch Reformed Church, Kingston, N.Y., which is in Ulster County, there is the following records (and spelled like the names are in the records): Child: Ritsert Sekket Baptismal date: 5 May 1734 Parents: Jan Sekket; Elisabeth Masten Sponsors: Ritsert Sekket; David De Duyster; Mary Brodeth; Elisabeth Van Vlied Denomination: Reformed Dutch Child: Ezechiel Sekket Baptismal date: 19 June 1737 Parents: Jan Sekket; Elisabeth Masten Sponsors: Aard Masten, Jr.; Ezechiel Masten; Elisabeth Masten Denomination: Reformed Dutch Child: Elisabeth Sekket Baptismal date: 26 May 1739 Parents: Ritsert Sekket; Maria Breedeth Sponsors: Jan Sekket; Elisabeth Masten Source: Poughkeepsie Reformed Church (Baptisms), Dutchess County Number one and two would be sons of John Sackett and Elisabeth Masten. Weygant has #717 Richard born in June 1751 but does not have a date for #715 Ezekiel. The latter, I believe, would be #712 Elisabeth, a daughter of Richard Sackett, Jr. Weygant has her born 14 Oct.1751. The original credit for the find on these three belongs to Terry Flynn, a McKay and Sackett researcher. I found these entries on a site that had the records of New York baptisms, also. Notice the name Mary Brodeth and Maria Breedeth. Since Richard is in both entries, I believe this is his wife. I have seen it as Bredeth, too. In going over the Kingston baptismal records, I saw several similar names. The old Dutch records spelled names in several different ways, and it is difficult to decipher which is the true name. But, I found some of the same people using the following spellings: Bradet, Bradhet, Breder, Breeder and Brodhead. So, my gut feeling, if you will pardon the expression, is that her maiden name was really Brodhead. That family, from what I found, is supposed to have come from England very early to America. The only problem is, I can't connect Mary or Maria to any of the families so far. A Richard Brodhead and wife, Wyntje Pawling, had a daughter, Mary, born in 1719 (too old for Richard); Charles Brodhead and wife, Maria Ten Broeck, had a daughter, Mary, born ca 1699. But according to some websites, the first Mary married a Robert McGinnis, and the second married Johannes De Witt in 1724. I'm still trying to see if there were other Brodhead's that the Mary we are looking for would fit into. Just thought I would let you know what I have found (or not found) so far. Blanche McKay

TSFA, Saw this in the NEHGS Newsletter and thought it might be of some interest. Tom -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Highlight Your Family Association in the NEHGS eNews Many genealogists are members of family associations and believe them to be an integral part of their research efforts. Finding cousins, learning the history of a particular family, sharing genealogical information with others, and social interaction are some of the many reasons why genealogists create and join family associations. As part of an enhanced and ongoing effort to collaborate with genealogical and historical organizations, NEHGS would like to periodically highlight family associations in the eNews. We will publish a description of a particular association, cite the association's homepage, and include resources available at NEHGS for that particular family. In return, we ask that your association include an article provided by us about NEHGS in your newsletter. This text would include some basic information about the Society as well as the resources available for your association's surname. Since newsletter editors are often looking for content to fill the pages, it could make your newsletter editor very happy. It seems like a win/win situation to us! If you would like to be part of the NEHGS family association partnership, please email Laura Prescott at lgprescott@nehgs.org for specific information. We have also added a new section for family associations within the "Links" pages of the website: www.newenglandancestors.org/links/Default.asp?page_id=703&attrib1=1&seq_num=4. If you would like a link to your family association website listed on the page, please email dmcglinn@nehgs.org with the official association name and the URL. If you wish, you may also include a very brief description of the association (fifty words or less). As before, we hope you'll reciprocate and include a link to www.NewEnglandAncestors.org and information about the Society on your website. We encourage you to add a link to NEHGS to your website. The correct URL is http://www.NewEnglandAncestors.org. This is a good time to re-check your existing link to NEHGS if you've had it on your website for awhile. Please be sure you are no longer linked to our old address at www.nehgs.org. >

Katherine, I have added this email address to the "Accepted List" so that if you happen to email from this one again, it will go straight through to the list without being "not a subscriber". If this should happen to be an address that you wish to use has your primary address, please let me know off-list. Thanks! Later...Nancy Nancy Cluff Siders TSFA President and List Admin for: CLUFF-L, COUNTRYMAN-L, LETSON-L, MCKAY-ELKENNY-L, SACKETT-L, SIDERS-L To forget one's ancestor is to be a brook without a source, A tree without a root. ~Chinese proverb -----Original Message----- From: katherine russell [mailto:kjrussell@onewest.net] Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 10:12 AM To: SACKETT-L@rootsweb.com Subject: {not a subscriber} reuben sackett 1778 A critical essay by David Redden "Loyal he remains" "....one so called "traitor" can be found lying not so comfortably in the old first church cemetary in Bennington Vermont. HIs name is David Redden a member of the Queens Loyal Rangers and a Loyalist spy during the Rev war...." "If one searches through the few records that do exist, they may find that on June 9, 1778, RUEBEN SACKETT was labeled as criminally guilty for assisting David Redden in his escape from jail while he was awaiting his 2nd trail. And SACKETT was sentenced himself to receive twenty lashes well laid on the naked back at sun set."....."the wagon transporting David Redden to the gallows....RUEBEN SACKETT who was punished two days earlier drove the wagon"..... Katherine Russell

Blanche, I was able to get back and check the date. I sent an email to the list yesterday but apparently it didn't show up for some reason. I noted also that Simeon had a younger brother named Heth who died when just a few months old when Simeon was about 15. Hence his naming his own son Heth. I don't have the details in front of me now but will send the citation when I get home and have had an vnseasonable drink to relax. Tom > > > To Tom: Sorry I set you back. Hope you had some success when you went > back. > > Enough for now, > Blanche McKay > > > ==== SACKETT Mailing List ==== > RootsWeb blocks HTML formatting in email messages. Be sure to set your > email software to text only before posting a message to the list. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

> -----Original Message----- > From: tsmith26@comcast.net [mailto:tsmith26@comcast.net] > Sent: 19 November 2003 02:03 > When is the drinking season? I would have thought in the fall > when hard cider would have been available but then Sept. was when > they were in court so there goes that idea. Could be the meaning > of unseasonable was something different then we understand now. > Tom Tom, Thurmon, & unseasonable drinkers everywhere, I figure they would have used "unseasonable" in a wider sense than "untimely". The meaning would have been stretched to encompass "inopportune" meaning inappropriate to the moment or to the occasion. They would have regarded drinking excessively always to be unsuitable to the occasion and therefore inappropriate behaviour. For "unseasonable" read: inappropriate, unsuitable, unreasonable. A modern day example would be, "He admitted having had an unseasonable relationship with that woman!". :--() Best .. Chris

Thurmon, Thanks for the interesting information on the Little Nine Partners. I have the book, "History of Little Nine Partners", by Isaac Huntting, 1897, but I have never been able to understand all the transactions that went on. From this book, the last mention of Margery Sackett, Richard's wife and John's mother, is when she and John sold 400 acres on Lot #14 to Hendrick Nase of Crom (Crum) Elbow for 140 pounds. The deed to this property, during Hendrick's lifetime, was "burglariously taken from his dwelling". Margery was deceased; Hendrick had died, but John Sackett, on 3 April 1760, gave another deed to Hendrick's son, Philip, for this same property. It cost Philip 40 shillings. I have just a portion of an article taken from, "Old Dutchess Forever!", by Henry Noble MacCracken. The mention of John Sackett and Thomas Wolcott goes like this, "When Thomas Woolcot became Colden's tenant in the Oblong, Dr. Sackett broke in upon his field, trod out his corn and injured his house. Colden threatened him, but he persisted and got Woolcot lodged in jail for trespass. The net result seems to have been that Woolcot married his sister Margaret, while John sold 3,497 acres to Moses Harris and moved on. Dr. John, one of our earliest physicians, died in Stephentown, but Ezekial, one of his ten children, served in a Dutchess company in the Revolution". Weygant has Thomas Walcot marrying #269 Catherine Sackett, daughter of Richard Sackett. From the book, "The History of Ancient Windsor, CT.", Vol. II by Henry Stiles, he has that Thomas Wolcott, b. 1 Sep. 1726, married Catherine Sackett of Dover, N.Y. and had family. John Sackett did not have a sister, Margaret, as far as I know. To add to all this fun, there was an entry on Ancestry that gave the spouse of Catherine Sackett, born 1742, died 1826, as Andreas Theodor Larsdatter. Her parents were given as Richard Sackett and Margery Sleade. I'm going to try to chase that one down. I'm jumping around here, but #267, Richard Sackett, Jr.'s wife, is recorded in Dutch records as Maria Breedeth or Mary Brodeth. His daughter, #710, according to a website I found, was named Mary Margarete Sackett, and was b. 5 Oct.1742. She married Israel Canfield (Weygant has Camfield) on 6 Apr.1758 in New Milford, Ct. Mary died in Arlington, Bennington, Vt. on 18 June 1817. They had more children than what is recorded in Weygant's book according to this site. To Tom: Sorry I set you back. Hope you had some success when you went back. Enough for now, Blanche McKay

Blanche: Comments and questions inserted below. On Thu, 20 Nov 2003 11:54:54 -0500 Harry McKay <bhmckay5743@juno.com> writes: > Thurmon, > > Thanks for the interesting information on the Little Nine Partners. > I have the book, "History of Little Nine Partners", by Isaac Huntting, > 1897, but I have never been able to understand all the transactions > that went on. From this book, the last mention of Margery Sackett, > Richard's wife and John's mother, is when she and John sold 400 acres on Lot > #14 to Hendrick Nase of Crom (Crum) Elbow for 140 pounds. The deed to this > property, during Hendrick's lifetime, was "burglariously taken from > his dwelling". Margery was deceased; Hendrick had died, but John > Sackett, on 3 April 1760, gave another deed to Hendrick's son, Philip, for this > same property. It cost Philip 40 shillings. > Do you have the date for the land sale when John and his mother sold the 400 acres. This date would give us a date after which she died. And the 3 Apr 1760 date gives us a "died before" date. > > I have just a portion of an article taken from, "Old Dutchess Forever!", > by Henry Noble MacCracken. The mention of John Sackett and Thomas > Wolcott goes like this, "When Thomas Woolcot became Colden's tenant in the > Oblong, Dr. Sackett broke in upon his field, trod out his corn and > injured his house. Colden threatened him, but he persisted and got > Woolcot lodged in jail for trespass. The net result seems to have > been that Woolcot married his sister Margaret, while John sold 3,497 > acres to Moses Harris and moved on. Dr. John, one of our earliest > physicians, died in Stephentown, but Ezekial, one of his ten children, served in > a Dutchess company in the Revolution". > > Weygant has Thomas Walcot marrying #269 Catherine Sackett, daughter > of Richard Sackett. From the book, "The History of Ancient Windsor, > CT.", Vol. II by Henry Stiles, he has that Thomas Wolcott, b. 1 Sep. 1726, > married Catherine Sackett of Dover, N.Y. and had family. John > Sackett did not have a sister, Margaret, as far as I know. > This is the first I have seen for a Margaret Sackett connected to the family of #75-Richard Sackett. I believe that John B. Wolcott's website probably has the correct information: "Thomas m. Catherine Sackett, sometimes said to be daughter of Richard Sackett. This is in error as she was b. 1702, 24 years before Thomas, and her youngest child would have been born at age 60. Richard Sackett's will dated 1744 and proved 1746 leaves a bequest to his daughter, Catherine, "during her widowhood". In a court case regarding her father's will she is called Catherine Margeson, which was apparently her married name. Thomas' wife was probably Catherine, b. c.1720, daughter of Catherine's brother, John Sackett." [John B. Wolcott <johnwolcott@wolcottfamily.com> http://www.wolcottfamily.com/index.html] The confusion could be the result of there being a Thomas Wolcott (b. 1702) and Thomas Wolcott, Jr. (b. 1726)and a Richard Sackett (b. c1678) with daughter Catherine (b. 1702) and Richard Sackett, Jr. (b. 1701) with daughter Catherine (b. 1751); as well as Dr. John having a daughter named Catherine (b. c1720). [How is that for a potential for confusion??] > > To add to all this fun, there was an entry on Ancestry that gave the > spouse of Catherine Sackett, born 1742, died 1826, as Andreas Theodor > Larsdatter. Her parents were given as Richard Sackett and Margery > Sleade. I'm going to try to chase that one down. > This would not be the daughter of Richard and Margery (Sleade) Sackett. The Catherine in Richard's will was a wodow in 1744. Being born in 1742 and a widow in 1744 would make her rather precocious !! A possible solution would be #712-Catherine, (twin sister of Elizabeth) b. 14 Oct 1751; daughters of Dr. John who are listed by Weygant as " Probably died in infancy." > > I'm jumping around here, but #267, Richard Sackett, Jr.'s wife, is > recorded in Dutch records as Maria Breedeth or Mary Brodeth. His > daughter, #710, according to a website I found, was named Mary > Margarete Sackett, and was b. 5 Oct.1742. She married Israel Canfield > (Weygant has Camfield) on 6 Apr.1758 in New Milford, Ct. Mary died in Arlington, > Bennington, Vt. on 18 June 1817. They had more children than what > is recorded in Weygant's book according to this site. > The information for the name of #267-Richard's wife as being Maria Breedth or Mary Brodeth is new infomation. Any way to determine the correct spelling of her name? For #710-Mary Sackett, m. Israel Canfield; I have: From: Pauline Manosh <Pmanosh@pwshift.com> To: VERMONT-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [VT-L] Arlington, Vermont Bennington County "Canfield Family" Date: Sunday, January 23, 2000 From Hemenway's Vermont Historical Gazetteer: Arlington, Vermont Bennington County Vol. 1 pg. 136 "... Israel Canfield, who is supposed to have been a cousin of Nathan Canfield, married Mary Sacket and came to Arlington from Connecticut about the same time [about 1768]. Their children were , Sacket, John, Isaac, Nathaniel and Anson Bassett. Israel Canfield was in the American service, but his wife was a most active loyalist. It is said that important messages between the British in Canada, and their friends in this region, passed through her hands. "Aunt Ann :Hawley, the bolder of the two, usually carried food to her son Eli, while to "Molly Sacket,: as she was called, a more quiet woman, was entrusted the duty of transmitting his messages. She died June 18, 1817, in her 75th year. ..." This source gives five children for Mary Sackett and Israel Canfield. Weygant has four. Did I manage to keep up with your "jumping around"?? Thurmon > > To Tom: Sorry I set you back. Hope you had some success when you > went back. > > Enough for now, > Blanche McKay

> -----Original Message----- > From: tsmith26@comcast.net [mailto:tsmith26@comcast.net] > Sent: 19 November 2003 12:29 > > If only I had this post yesterday! I was at the townhall in > Clinton doing some work on vital records for the NGS Genealogy > course and was pouring over those very records. ---snip--- If > they don't throw me from the clerks office, I'll go back today > and have a look. > Tom Smith Blanche, There's no need to wait for my questions before posting your answers! - see how much extra work you've caused poor Tom ... :-) Keep on sleuthing.. Chris

GREAT SITE they work very hard to get records online.. Jill ABSTRACT of PROBATE RECORDS OF THE DISTRICT OF STAMFORD, COUNTY OF FAIRFIELD, AND STATE OF CONNECTICUT, 1729-1802 by SPENCER P. MEAD, L.L.B., of the New York Bar. MEMBER OF THE SONS OF THE REVOLUTION, AND SOCIETY OF COLONIAL WARS. AUTHOR OF YE HISTORIE OF GREENWICH, CONNECTICUT, PUBLISHED IN 1911, AND THE HISTORY AND GENEALOGY OF THE MEAD FAMILY, PUBLISHED IN 1901. 1919 http://www.rootsweb.com/~ctfairfi/pages/probate/ctfairfi_stamprob004.htm Sackett, Elizabeth, Mrs., [Elizabeth Kirkland, widow of Richard Sackett] late of Greenwich, inventory taken Sept. 13, 1739, by Thomas Marshall, Daniel Smith, and Israel Knapp, and filed Jan. 4, 1740, by Nathaniel Sackett and Gershom Lockwood, Jr., administrators, page 301. Oct. 2, 1739, Nathaniel Sackett, made choice of Jabez Mead to be his guardian, page 101. Sackett, Nathaniel, and his wife Elizabeth Sackett, both deceased, late of Greenwich, Apr. 24, 1769, William Bush the guardian of the minor children William, Elizabeth, Charity, and Ann, asked the court to appoint commissioners for the purpose of partitioning said estate, page 329. Sackett, Nathaniel, late of Greenwich, Dec. 6, 1760, bond of Henry Bush of Greenwich, guardian of Richard, Henry, John and Ann, children of decedent. Dec. 6, 1760, bond of William Bush of Greenwich, guardian of William, Elizabeth, Charity and Justus, other children of decedent. Sackett, Nathaniel, late of Greenwich, inventory taken Jan. 20, 1761, by Jabez Mead and Nathan Reynolds, and filed May 5, 1761, by Joseph Sackett, page 285. Sackett, Nathaniel, late of Greenwich, Jan. 12, 1761, letters of administration on his estate granted to Joseph Sackett, page 215. Sackett, Solomon, late of Greenwich, Dec. 2, 1794, letters of administration on his estate granted to Nathaniel Sackett, who was ordered to advertise for claims, page 268. Sackett, Solomon, late of Greenwich, inventory taken by Oliver Ferris and William Knapp and filed Jan. 29, 1795 by Nathaniel Sackett, administrator, page 112. Sackett, William, late of Greenwich, Dec. 26, 1783, letters of administration on his estate granted to Justus Sackett, page 337. Sackett, William, late of Greenwich, Mar. 1, 1788, inventory taken by Nathaniel Mead and John Knapp, and filed Jan. 23, 1789, by Justus Sackett, executor, page 162. Jan. 23, 1789, report of commissioners to adjust claims filed, page 168. Sackett, William, late of Greenwich, will dated July 9, 1776, probated Apr. 6, 1784, mentions his brothers Richard, John, Justus, sisters Elizabeth, Charity, and Ann. Executor brother Justus Sackett. Witnesses Nathaniel Palmer, John Lockwood, and John Mead, page 456. Sept. 12, 1786, commissioners appointed to adjust claims of creditors, page 825. Jill

Just noticed that Simeon had a brother Heth born Jan. 21, 1746, died May 9, 1746.Tom > > From: Index of Births Marriages Deaths > 1665-1838, Possession of Clinton Town Clerk > > "Birth-Kelcey-Simeon-1731-Feb.-26, Vol K-2, pg 156, Father- Mattius, Mother- > Abigail Kirkum" > > K-2 refers to the Killingworth Land Records, Vol 2, a copy of which are at the > Clinton Clerks office, as Clinton was at one time part of Killingworth. > The Kelsey Genealogy is at the Clinton Historical Society and may have more > information on the Simeon/Nelly union. > I did make a photocopy of the record in the K-2 Vol. if anyone is interested. > Tom > > Tom: > > > > Here is what I have for Simeon Kelsey: > > From LDS site; > > Husband's Name: Simeon KELSEY (AFN:92S8-WN) Pedigree > > Born: 26 Feb 1730 Place: Killingworth, Middlesex, Connecticut > > Married: 22 Aug 1754 Place: Kent, Litchfield, Connecticut > > Father: Matthias KELSEY (AFN:92S8-4P) Family > > Mother: Abigail KIRKUM (AFN:92S8-TB) > > Wife's Name: Nelly SACKETT (AFN:92TB-RC) Pedigree > > Born: Abt 1753 Place: Dover, Dutchess, New York > > Married: 22 Aug 1754 Place: Kent, Litchfield, Connecticut > > Father: ; Mother: > > Children > > 1. Sex Name > > M Heth KELSEY (AFN:92TB-SJ) Pedigree > > Born: Abt 1756 Place: Kent, Litchfield, Connecticut > > 2. Sex Name > > M Elijah KELSEY (AFN:92TB-TP) Pedigree > > Born: Abt 1759 Place: of Bellona, Yates, New York > > Died: 1809 Place: > > -------- > > From searchs of CT vital records through USGenWeb: > > Kent CT Marriages as found in > > Early Connecticut Marriages by > > Frederick Bailey > > 1741 to 1757 > > Reuben Sackctt & Mercy Finney of East Greenwich in Kent, Dec. 21, 1752 > > Simeon Kelsey & Nelly Sackett of Dover, N. Y., Aug. 22, 1754 > > --------- > > From Wendy Sacket: > > There does appear to be a whole line descended from Nelly Sackett of > > Dover, > > New York, who married Simeon Kelsey 22 AUG 1754 in Kent, Litchfield > > County, > > Connecticut (found in _Early Connecticut Marriages: Fifth Book Kent > > Milford_ > > posted on Ancestry.com). Since Nelly's purported sons Heth (b. 1756) and > > Elijah (b.1759) are older than Skene himself, it seems unlikely that she > > could be Skene's sister. Her connection to Dover, however, does suggest a > > likely link to Captain Richard's line. > > ---------- > > Re: Searching for Sackett-Frisbie Connection > > Posted by: Cynthia Simmons (ID *****2401) > > Date: January 18, 2003 at 09:10:29 > > In Reply to: Searching for Sackett-Frisbie Connection by R.J. > > Message: 549 of 549 > > > > I have just found (thanks to the Dutchess County Historical Society) that > > Nelly Sackett (b. 1832) is > > most likely the Eleanor Kelsey, wife of Simeon Kelsey (b.1830). In the > > Spencer's Corners burial > > grounds, there is a Mrs. Eleanor, wife of Mr. Simeon 'Kellsy'(Kelsey); > > died 1793, age 61. Simeon > > Kelsey (d. 25 Nov 1811) is also buried there, as is his second wife > > (called 'consort'), Rhumah > > (?)Kelsey. Any thoughts that is Eleanor is Nelly? > > > > Re: Searching for Sackett-Frisbie Connection > > Posted by: Cynthia Simmons (ID *****2401) Date: November 06, 2003 at > > 16:24:44 > > In Reply to: Re: Searching for Sackett-Frisbie Connection by Thurmon King > > > > 594 of 595 > > > > Can I assume this 'Elenor Sackett' buried with Simeon Kelsey in Spencer > > Burial grounds is 'Nelly'? According to the tombstones, "Kellsy, Mrs. > > Elenor, wife of Mr. Simeon, d.____1, 1793, ae, 61". My source is "Burying > > Grounds of Sharon, Connecticut, Amenia and North East, New York", 'being > > an abstract of inscriptions from thirty places of burial in the above > > named towns'. Walsh, Griffen & Hoysradt, Printers, Armenia, NY, 1903. > > My ancestor is from Simeon Kelsey's second marriage to Ruhamah ??? > > Kelsey; she is buried in the same plot. > > It seems to me that 'Elenor' is indeed the 'Nelly' cited in various > > Kelsey literature; what do you think? Thanks... > > Cynthia > > ================= > > > > Searches of WorldConnect databases gives conflicting information for the > > birthplaces of the presumed children of Simeon Kelsey and Nelly Sackett. > > > > Thurmon > > > > > > On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 12:29:13 +0000 tsmith26@comcast.net writes: > > > > > > If only I had this post yesterday! I was at the townhall in Clinton > > > doing some work on vital records for the NGS Genealogy course and > > > was pouring over those very records. I noted that the Kelseys have > > > taken up several pages in the early records. They were early > > > settlers in Killingworth, CT. Clinton seperated from Killingworth > > > but the records are mixed. The Hull Genealogies you mention are held > > > by the Clinton Historical Society, as are several of the early > > > family genealogies. > > > Clinton is located on long Island Sound, appx. 20 miles east of New > > > Haven. Killingworth abuts on the north, while Kent , CT abuts the > > > eastern NY border in what I believe is Dutchess County. > > > Out of habit I did look under "S" for SACKETT but saw none. If they > > > don't throw me from the clerks office, I'll go back today and have a > > > look. > > > Tom Smith > > > > > > > Chris, > > > > > > > > Per your message of 17 Nov., I went back and checked the websites > > > on > > > > Nelly Sackett. None of them seem to give a reliable source for > > > the > > > > dates for Nelly, and it looks like several of them have probably > > > copied > > > > what others had. I have written to a few to see if I can get any > > > more > > > > information. One lady I did hear from said she relied heavily on > > > the > > > > Hull family website, as her great-grandmother who was a Hull > > > married a > > > > Sackett. I have not looked at that site. > > > > > > > > On one I found last night, it does not give Nelly's birth year, > > > but it > > > > says she married Simeon Kelsey, who was baptized 26 Feb.1730 in > > > > > Killingworth, CT., on 22 Aug.1754 in Kent, CT. I could not find > > > > Killingworth in my atlas, but Kent is very near the New York line > > > on the > > > > eastern side. So, if Simeon was born in 1730, the 1734/35 date > > > for Nelly > > > > would seem right. She would have been about 20 years old at their > > > > marriage. This site gives the children of Nelly and Simeon as > > > Heth > > > > Kelsey born ca 1754 in Kent, CT., and Elijah Kelsey born ca 1759. > > > No > > > > further information on them. > > > > > > > > On the will of Richard Sackett, when we were in Poughkeepsie some > > > years > > > > ago, we checked at the courthouse thinking we could see Richard's > > > will. > > > > It was listed in the will book but could not be found by the > > > clerk. > > > > Perhaps it had been transferred to Albany or New York, but it > > > should have > > > > so stated in the records. > > > > > > > > To add to the confusion about Josiah Crego Sackett, one website > > > had > > > > Richard and Margery Sackett having a son, Josiah Crego Sackett > > > born ca > > > > 1709, and another Josiah Crego Sackett , born ca 1720. I'm > > > writing to > > > > the site to see how that came about. Hope they answer! > > > > > > > > All for now, > > > > Blanche McKay > > > > > > ==== SACKETT Mailing List ==== > > If you haven't already, please send in your introduction to the list. > > For examples, visit http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~sidersn/sackett > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go > to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > ==== SACKETT Mailing List ==== > RootsWeb blocks HTML formatting in email messages. Be sure to set your > email software to text only before posting a message to the list. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

From: Index of Births Marriages Deaths 1665-1838, Possession of Clinton Town Clerk "Birth-Kelcey-Simeon-1731-Feb.-26, Vol K-2, pg 156, Father- Mattius, Mother- Abigail Kirkum" K-2 refers to the Killingworth Land Records, Vol 2, a copy of which are at the Clinton Clerks office, as Clinton was at one time part of Killingworth. The Kelsey Genealogy is at the Clinton Historical Society and may have more information on the Simeon/Nelly union. I did make a photocopy of the record in the K-2 Vol. if anyone is interested. Tom > Tom: > > Here is what I have for Simeon Kelsey: > From LDS site; > Husband's Name: Simeon KELSEY (AFN:92S8-WN) Pedigree > Born: 26 Feb 1730 Place: Killingworth, Middlesex, Connecticut > Married: 22 Aug 1754 Place: Kent, Litchfield, Connecticut > Father: Matthias KELSEY (AFN:92S8-4P) Family > Mother: Abigail KIRKUM (AFN:92S8-TB) > Wife's Name: Nelly SACKETT (AFN:92TB-RC) Pedigree > Born: Abt 1753 Place: Dover, Dutchess, New York > Married: 22 Aug 1754 Place: Kent, Litchfield, Connecticut > Father: ; Mother: > Children > 1. Sex Name > M Heth KELSEY (AFN:92TB-SJ) Pedigree > Born: Abt 1756 Place: Kent, Litchfield, Connecticut > 2. Sex Name > M Elijah KELSEY (AFN:92TB-TP) Pedigree > Born: Abt 1759 Place: of Bellona, Yates, New York > Died: 1809 Place: > -------- > From searchs of CT vital records through USGenWeb: > Kent CT Marriages as found in > Early Connecticut Marriages by > Frederick Bailey > 1741 to 1757 > Reuben Sackctt & Mercy Finney of East Greenwich in Kent, Dec. 21, 1752 > Simeon Kelsey & Nelly Sackett of Dover, N. Y., Aug. 22, 1754 > --------- > From Wendy Sacket: > There does appear to be a whole line descended from Nelly Sackett of > Dover, > New York, who married Simeon Kelsey 22 AUG 1754 in Kent, Litchfield > County, > Connecticut (found in _Early Connecticut Marriages: Fifth Book Kent > Milford_ > posted on Ancestry.com). Since Nelly's purported sons Heth (b. 1756) and > Elijah (b.1759) are older than Skene himself, it seems unlikely that she > could be Skene's sister. Her connection to Dover, however, does suggest a > likely link to Captain Richard's line. > ---------- > Re: Searching for Sackett-Frisbie Connection > Posted by: Cynthia Simmons (ID *****2401) > Date: January 18, 2003 at 09:10:29 > In Reply to: Searching for Sackett-Frisbie Connection by R.J. > Message: 549 of 549 > > I have just found (thanks to the Dutchess County Historical Society) that > Nelly Sackett (b. 1832) is > most likely the Eleanor Kelsey, wife of Simeon Kelsey (b.1830). In the > Spencer's Corners burial > grounds, there is a Mrs. Eleanor, wife of Mr. Simeon 'Kellsy'(Kelsey); > died 1793, age 61. Simeon > Kelsey (d. 25 Nov 1811) is also buried there, as is his second wife > (called 'consort'), Rhumah > (?)Kelsey. Any thoughts that is Eleanor is Nelly? > > Re: Searching for Sackett-Frisbie Connection > Posted by: Cynthia Simmons (ID *****2401) Date: November 06, 2003 at > 16:24:44 > In Reply to: Re: Searching for Sackett-Frisbie Connection by Thurmon King > > 594 of 595 > > Can I assume this 'Elenor Sackett' buried with Simeon Kelsey in Spencer > Burial grounds is 'Nelly'? According to the tombstones, "Kellsy, Mrs. > Elenor, wife of Mr. Simeon, d.____1, 1793, ae, 61". My source is "Burying > Grounds of Sharon, Connecticut, Amenia and North East, New York", 'being > an abstract of inscriptions from thirty places of burial in the above > named towns'. Walsh, Griffen & Hoysradt, Printers, Armenia, NY, 1903. > My ancestor is from Simeon Kelsey's second marriage to Ruhamah ??? > Kelsey; she is buried in the same plot. > It seems to me that 'Elenor' is indeed the 'Nelly' cited in various > Kelsey literature; what do you think? Thanks... > Cynthia > ================= > > Searches of WorldConnect databases gives conflicting information for the > birthplaces of the presumed children of Simeon Kelsey and Nelly Sackett. > > Thurmon > > > On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 12:29:13 +0000 tsmith26@comcast.net writes: > > > > If only I had this post yesterday! I was at the townhall in Clinton > > doing some work on vital records for the NGS Genealogy course and > > was pouring over those very records. I noted that the Kelseys have > > taken up several pages in the early records. They were early > > settlers in Killingworth, CT. Clinton seperated from Killingworth > > but the records are mixed. The Hull Genealogies you mention are held > > by the Clinton Historical Society, as are several of the early > > family genealogies. > > Clinton is located on long Island Sound, appx. 20 miles east of New > > Haven. Killingworth abuts on the north, while Kent , CT abuts the > > eastern NY border in what I believe is Dutchess County. > > Out of habit I did look under "S" for SACKETT but saw none. If they > > don't throw me from the clerks office, I'll go back today and have a > > look. > > Tom Smith > > > > > Chris, > > > > > > Per your message of 17 Nov., I went back and checked the websites > > on > > > Nelly Sackett. None of them seem to give a reliable source for > > the > > > dates for Nelly, and it looks like several of them have probably > > copied > > > what others had. I have written to a few to see if I can get any > > more > > > information. One lady I did hear from said she relied heavily on > > the > > > Hull family website, as her great-grandmother who was a Hull > > married a > > > Sackett. I have not looked at that site. > > > > > > On one I found last night, it does not give Nelly's birth year, > > but it > > > says she married Simeon Kelsey, who was baptized 26 Feb.1730 in > > > Killingworth, CT., on 22 Aug.1754 in Kent, CT. I could not find > > > Killingworth in my atlas, but Kent is very near the New York line > > on the > > > eastern side. So, if Simeon was born in 1730, the 1734/35 date > > for Nelly > > > would seem right. She would have been about 20 years old at their > > > marriage. This site gives the children of Nelly and Simeon as > > Heth > > > Kelsey born ca 1754 in Kent, CT., and Elijah Kelsey born ca 1759. > > No > > > further information on them. > > > > > > On the will of Richard Sackett, when we were in Poughkeepsie some > > years > > > ago, we checked at the courthouse thinking we could see Richard's > > will. > > > It was listed in the will book but could not be found by the > > clerk. > > > Perhaps it had been transferred to Albany or New York, but it > > should have > > > so stated in the records. > > > > > > To add to the confusion about Josiah Crego Sackett, one website > > had > > > Richard and Margery Sackett having a son, Josiah Crego Sackett > > born ca > > > 1709, and another Josiah Crego Sackett , born ca 1720. I'm > > writing to > > > the site to see how that came about. Hope they answer! > > > > > > All for now, > > > Blanche McKay > > > ==== SACKETT Mailing List ==== > If you haven't already, please send in your introduction to the list. > For examples, visit http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~sidersn/sackett > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

The past couple of weeks have reminded me of trying to follow about 5 different conversations at the same time. (:>) During our discussion of 75-Richard Sackett and his family I had an exchange of messages with John Wolcott who mentioned an incident involving Richard's son, John Sackett and a disagreement with Lt. Thomas Wolcott over some property in Dutchess County: "... Lt. Thomas Wolcott, b. 1702 Windsor CT, d. Taghanic NY. ... moved to Dutchess Co. New York, leased land from Cadwallader Colden in "The Oblong"; in 1749 he engaged in legal dispute over ownership of this land with John Sackett ..." When I asked John Wolcott about the dispute he responded with "...the land dispute, it was actually between John Sackett and Cadwallader Colden (not the governor but another of the same name). Thomas Wolcott was Colden's tenant and John Sackett came to his house with an ax and started chopping down his house. ... I don't remember the source for this." This got me involved in researching the history of Dutchess County and the Nine Little Partners land claim. General History of Dutchess County, From 1609 to 1876, Inclusive. by Philip H. Smith; Pawling, NY; 1877; p. 110-111 "... Armenia Village, The City, Wassaic, Amenia Union, South Amenia, Leedsville, and Sharon Station are post villages. Richard Sackett was here several years before any other setlement was made, probably about the year 1711. He located at the "Steel Works," about one mile south to the village of Wassaic, so called because a furnace and foundar were established there during the Revolution, to manufacture steel for the use of the army. The site of the works is still covered by coal dust and cinders. Mr. Sackett was connected with the Livingstons in the settlement of the Palatinates at German or East Camp, now Germantown, Columbia County. In the Colonial Records we read: "March 11, 1703, Richard Sackett petitioned government for license to purchase (of the Indians) a tract of land in Dutchess County, east of Hudson's River, called Washiack." "Oct. 20, 1703, license granted." "Nov. 2, 1704, patent granted to Richard Sackett & Co., for Page 111 said land, containing about 7,500 acres, or thereabouts." Mr. Sackett was one of the company known as the Little Nine Partners. He died in 1746, and was buried on the hill, in a little cemetery not far from his residence. At the time that he established his family in Amenia, there was not another white family nearer than Paughkeepsie, or Woodbury and New Mil- ford, in Connecticut. Uldrick Winegar and his son, Capt. Garrett Winegar, were the next settlers. they were of the Palatinates at East Camp, and located at Amenia Union about the year 1724, where they entered upon land without any title, except from the Indians. Afterward, when the Oblong was confirmed to New York, and surveyed, he received a title from the proprietors of that tract. It is worthy of note that no mention was made of any block- house, or any defense against the Indians, put up by these early settlers, though isolated for many years from any other white settlements; while in Litchfield, between 1720 and 1730, there were five houses sur- rounded by palisades, and soldiers were stationed there to guard the inhab- itants while at work, and at worship on the Sabbath. ..." Page 112 "The first highway from - Salisbury was from Weatague through Lakevill, Ore Hill, Sharon Balley and Sackett's Farm in Dover, showing the intercourse of these Dutch families. The first important immigration to this town was not until the year 1740, and it appears that ten years afterward the popula- tion was sufficient to encourage the people to institute public worship in three places. ..." Among the interesting things in the above account are the statement that some of the settlers located on the land without title and the relative peace between the Indians and the white settlers. Information at; http://www.rootsweb.com/~nylnphs/V0/index.htm Little Nine Partners Historical Society (NY) Gives an explaination for this; "Until the land was surveyed, actual title could not be given. The Little Nine Partners Patent, encompassing the present Town of Pine Plains, had been granted in 1706 but was not surveyed until 1743, at which time it was divided into sixty-three lots. The deed of partition is dated October 19, 1744. By this time, many of the original patentees had died, so the rightful heir or other person or persons so designated had then to be determined. In the meantime, settlers, many from the Palatine in Germany had begun to enter the region and squat on these lands." It appears that the Little Nine Partners did not all move onto the patent and there was no concern about title until others began to settle on the land. "Although title could not be given until the land was surveyed, patentees could, and in many cases did, reassign their shares or portions thereof. In 1741, Richard Sackett, one of the original patentees, went so far as to have a parcel of three hundred acres of his choice surveyed in order to sell to settler Johan Tise (also Hontise) Smith, apparently with the sanction of the other patentees. This was not a customary practice, however, and it is not surprising that it did not hold. Lot twelve in the patent, which included the land conveyed by Sackett to Smith, was assigned to Robert Lurting when the patent was partitioned in 1744, and Smith ultimately settled on other land in the vicinity. " So the Little Nine Partners title claims began to be questioned and as a result Richard Sackett's holdings were called into question. At the same time it appears that Richard had a good relationship with the Indians and others in the region. But it appears that his son, John Sackett, was not so agreeable: "In the Little Nine Partners Patent, Richard Sackett had promised the Shekomeko Indians that their land would remain undisturbed by white settlement, and indeed, in the document conveying the three hundred acres of land to Johan Tise Smith, the existence of a wigwam is mentioned and thus the claim of the Indians is respected. Maybe the settlers became resentful of the prospect that they would lose their rights to the lands they had been squatting upon, but the Indians would be allowed to stay, or maybe they feared the Indians laying claim to the same land they claimed, and this aggravated an already uneasy situation. Finally, there was the matter of the French and Indian War, and John Sackett, Richard's son. John Sackett was not as magnanimous as his father when it came to the Indians of Shekomeko. When the land of the patent was being surveyed, John, representing his father, began spreading rumors that the Shekomeko Indians were dangerous and that the patent could not be safely surveyed because of them. Did he really believe this? Regardless of his motives for this attack, the settlers apparently believed it. " This might help to explain something about the man who attacked another man's house with an ax. Regards, Thurmon