This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Sackett, Rice Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/ChEBAIB/113.2.3 Message Board Post: You mentioned that you were unable to locate Merrill Sackett in the 1860 & 1870 census. Here are the transcriptions for Merrill for those years and also a quote from a history of Allegany Co I ran across ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1860 US Census, Harrison Township, (Post office: Whites Corners), Potter County, Pennsylvania, page #57 (stamped 113), dwelling #420, family #419, genealogy.com image # 21 of 28, enumerated July 7, 1860. Merril(sic) Sackett, (head) age 42, occ: farmer, real estate $1500, personal estate $600, born in NY Sarah E., (wife) age 39, born in NY Morris N., (son), age 18, born in PA, Volney D., (son), age 16, born in NY, attended school Louisa O., (daughter), age 13, born in NY, attended school Phlendoria(?), (daughter), age 11, born in NY, attended school Jane L., (daughter), age 7, born in PA, attended school Alice M., (daughter), age 3, born in PA, Fanny, (daughter) age 6/12, born in PA, --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- they had moved back to NY by 1866 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1870 US Census, Wellsville, Allegany County, New York, page 51&52 (stamped 774), dwelling #248, family #252, genealogy.com image #31&32 of 96, enumerated July 27, 1870. Meril(sic) Sacket(sic), (head) age 52, occ: Carpenter, real estate $1200, personal estate $250, born in NY Sarah, (wife), age 50, occ: keeping house, born in NY Jane, (daughter), age 17, occ: teaching school, born in PA Alace(sic), (daughter), age 13, attending school, born in PA Fanie(sic) (daughter), age 10, attends school, born in PA Mary, (daughter), age 4, born in NY ------------------------------------------------------ >From "Allegany County and its people. A centennial memorial history of Allegany County, N. Y." page 610 , in the chapter on the early history of Independance Township: (this data was compiled from oral interviews with residents in the early 1900's) "Joseph Sackett came to Independance about 1814. He was a pensioner of the War of 1812. His son, Merrill C., born in Rochester about 1802, learned the carpenter's trade of his father, and married Sarah E., daughter of Alexander Rice, had 9 children and died in March 1886, his wife in October 1893. Their son, Volney D. Sackett, was born in Whitesville, June 5, 1844. He was a carpenter until September, 1861, when he enlisted in Co. G, 46th Penn. He was in the battle of Winchester, Aug 9, 1862, was wounded on the knee at Cedar Mountain, had his leg amputated, was prisoner in Libby Prison 64 days, paroled, and discharged Nov. 7, 1862." ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From; Long Island Vital Records Repository CD from GenealogyCDs.com Database; Cemetery Inscriptions of Westchester County, NY Place; Presbyterian Ground, Yorktown,(formerly Crompond - my note) Westchester County,NY Pg 2 # in ( ) indicate Weygant # added by T. Smith Sacket, (154) Capt. Samuel Sackett; died Apr.15, 1780-age 31 years. (147) Joseph Sackett; Apr.18, 1735-Dec.1, 1757 (?) Elizabeth Sackett; June 7, 1735-Jan. 30, 1755 (460) Joseph Sackett; died Feb.12, 1817-age 59 years (32) Rev. Samuel Sackett; died June 5, 1784- age 72 years (157) James Sackett; died Aug. 8, 1791-age 36 years. Questions; Who is this Elizabeth? Another child of Rev. Samuel and Hannah Hazard? Date doesn't work! Joseph born same year. All the rest are children and grandchild of Samuel and Hannah. Where is Hannah? Tom Smith

From: "A Genealogy of the Descendants of William Kelsey, Who setteled at Cambridge, Mass., in 1632: at Hartford, Conn., in 1636; and at Killingworth, Conn., in 1663." Edward A. Claypool and Azalea Clizbee, Vol. 2, edited by Chester Caulfield Kelsey, 1929 Note from Tom S.; "Must have known Simon, Isabel, Wm. Bloomfield and the whole gang!" Pg. 121-122 #772, Simeon Kelsey (Matthias, William, Daniel, William), 2nd son and second child of Deacon Matthias Kelsey and Abigail Kirkum, was born Feb. 26, 1730 at Killingworth[Conn], resided at Kent or Salisbury; no record of his death. He married Aug. 22, 1754, at Kent, Nelly Sackett of Dover, N.Y. Children: 2(?) (Kelsey), both sons and perhaps others. 1452 Heth, born about 1756 1453 Elijah, born about 1759 note: By some these two sons have been credited to a Heth Kelsey said to have been a son of Deacon Matthias, but as Matthias had a son Heth, born in 1740 and died the same year, another son of the same name could scarcely have been a grandfather inside of 40 years or less; therefore it seems likely that they were the children of Simeon, brother to the 1st Heth, who was married to Nelly Sackett. Authorities: Killingworth Town Records Bailey's Connecticut Marriages. Pg. 312-313 Heth Kelsey, son of Simeon Kelsey and Nelly Sackett, was born about 1756, at Kent. He married, April 30, 1778, at Washington[probably CT], Rhode Guthrie. Heth Kelsey was called " of Kent" in the marriage record, and resided at that place and at south Bainbridge, now Afton, Chenango County, N.Y. Authorities: Bailey's Connecticut Marriages Orra Kelsey George, Cortland, N.Y. Tom Smith

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Jackie: Sorry for not responding to your note before now. At one time in the past I tried to determine who the parents of David King were and didn't come to any firm conclusions. But I suspect he descended from John King from England who married Sarah Holton in Northamption, MA in 1656. My King line came through Virginia and through Georgia, Alabama, Mississippi, and Arkansas. Therefore, if there is a connection between David King's line and mine; it would be somewhere in England. My Sackett line was all Sacketts down to my mother and joins your Sackett line at 4-John Sackett and Abigail Hannum. Thurmon On Wed, 26 Nov 2003 18:14:05 -0500 "pepjo" <pepjo@prodigy.net> writes: > Hello Thurmon., <CLIPPED> > At > some point in the future I hope you will share some information on the David > King's ancestors if you have any. Also we will figure out our relationship. > David King is my 7th great- father. > Sincerely, > Jackie Pepper

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Santa's Problem As we approach Christmas I am reminded of an incident that I don't actually remember but I heard mother tell it often enough that it is part of my childhood memories. My older brother, Donal, and I were sitting in the front room by the heater. Mother was coming out of the kitchen when she heard Donal say; "Thurmon, I've been thinking about it and there ain't no Santa Claus." "There ain't? Why not?" "Well, in the first place I saw him in town and Santa is a big fat guy and there is no way he could come down that skinny little stove pipe. And besides he would be inside the heater and couldn't get out." "Couldn't he just come in the front door?" "Naw, he's supposed to land on the roof and come down he chimney. If he came to the door the dogs would wake everyone up." "But he brings the presents ..." "That's another thing. There's no way one man could carry all those presents to EVERY house in the world. So there ain't no Santa Claus." "If there ain't no Santa Claus where do the presents come from." "It's gotta be Mother and Daddy that brings them." "Really?" "Yep." Thurmon

Does anyone have any information on the marriage of one Elizabeth Sackett to Elisha Morton? I ran across this when going through a McKay connection's files. The time period would be about 1780's. They had a daughter named Sophia Morton born 29 Dec.1787. I have not been able to find anything so far on which Elizabeth this could be. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, Blanche Mckay

Forwarded on... Nancy Cluff Siders TSFA President and List Admin for: CLUFF-L, COUNTRYMAN-L, LETSON-L, MCKAY-ELKENNY-L, SACKETT-L, SIDERS-L To forget one's ancestor is to be a brook without a source, A tree without a root. ~Chinese proverb -----Original Message----- From: Cindy Cairns [mailto:cindy@pshift.com] Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2003 7:36 AM To: SACKETT-D-request@rootsweb.com Subject: History Lessons Thurmon et al.; I was not very fond of studying history in high school either, but in looking for clues about genealogy I have learned a lot about the Civil War, the American Revolution and am trying to figure out the War of 1812 campaigns. I started to compile a list of Crofoot, Lovejoy and Sackett men who served for NY Militias in the American Revolution by county, but didn't get very far. I was trying to figure out how Samantha Sackett (born 1795/6)met her husbands and who her parents were through the only records I could find. King George III gave land grants to what is now Vermont to both the governor of NH and NY, so part of the battles were over who had the rights to the same land once settled. There was a lot of trading along Lake Champlain with the French and British who had trading companies in Canada, so who you traded with could have a bearing on who you were allied with. Most VT farming was subsistent, however the land probably was more fertile along the valley at the lake. There are today plants that survive in Champlain Valley where it is warmer (5-8 degrees can make a difference) that can't make it in the hills. Vermont's borders with Massachusetts, NH, and NY changed many times, so finding birth and marriage records can be difficult in Southern VT. I am looking forward to learning more about the Battle of Bennington (VT) and Saratoga (NY) as I believe they hold a key to the crossing of the three families. Please continue post historic info about Ethan Allen, battles, etc. The may hold a key to figuring out where family members were during this time period. Cindy mailto:cindy@pshift.com

I must apologize for posting the biographical sketch of 2731-George E. Sackett BEFORE I proof read it !! Regards, Thurmon -------------------------- "Volume of Memories & Genealogy of Representative Citizens of the City of Seattle & County of King, Washington:. Originally published 1903; Lewis Pub. Co.; New York, NY. Page 656 George E. Sackett. Success in any line of occupation, in any avenue of business is not a matter of luck but the legitimate result of effort which utilizes the means at hand. In view of this condition the study of biography becomes valuable, and it is a practical advantage to trace the history of a successful life, be it in the world of business, where competition is rife, in the intellectual field, where devotees open up the wider realms of knowledge, in a public sphere, where is directed the course of government and the policies formed that sway nations, or in the calm and peaceful pursuits of agriculture. The at- tention of the reader is here directed to the life of a man well known in busi- ness circles in Seattle by reason of his keen discrimination, untiring activity and executive power, and who occupies the position of secretary and treas- urer of the Diamond Ice & Storage Company and also the Mutual Light & Heat Company. Mr. Sackett was born in Lanesville, Harrison county, Indiana, March 10, 1843. The family is a very old one in America and Sackett Harbor is named in honor of its earlsy representatives. The record can be traced back Page 657 to Colonel Sackett, who constructed ships for the government during the Revolutionary war. The grandfather and the father of our subject both bore the name of Charles. The latter was born in Massachusetts in 1820, went with his family to Indaiana, becoming a very active and influential mem- ber of his community, and settling in Floyd county as one of its early pio- neers. There he took an important part in public affairs and served for ten years as county commissioner and for eight years as county auditor. He was also a member of the city council of New Albany, and his political support was given the Whig party in early life, while later he became a Democrat. In Inidana he was united in marriage to Miss Joyce, a daughter of William Gresham, and uncle of the Hon. Walter Q. Gresham, who served as secretary of state under President Cleveland. Thirteen children were born of this marriage, of whom our subject is the fourth in order of birth and the only one now living in Washington. The father still resides in Indiana and is now eighry-nine years of age, but the mother passed away at the age of sixty-three years. In the public schools of his native state George E. Sackett pursued his education and when fifteen years of age entered upoon his business career. He served for eight years as deputy county auditor under his father and from that time until 1892 was connected with the iron manufacturing interests in the rolling mill of New Albany. Thence he came to the west, and after looking over the country decided to locate in Seattle, bringing his family to this city in June, 1892. He and Charles E. Crane and others became the owners of the ice plant, which was then but an insiginificant affair, but they have developed this industry until the plant now has a capacity of thirty tons a day. They are also doing an extensive cold storage business and have lagtely developed a steam heating industry furnishing heat for many homes in the territory lying between Madison and Pike streets. In the electircal department of their business they furnish light and power for the same terri- tory. This has been accomplished only by the most earnest and active effort, but they have succeeded in building up a fine business and devote their entire attention to the work, which has now proved to them a profitable source of income. In Charleston, Indiana, on the 25th of October, 1876, Mr. Sackett was united in marriage to Miss Mary K. Van Hook, a daughter of William Van Hook, a druggist of that place and a representative of an old an prominent family in Indiana. Their union has been blessed with one son and two daughters. Errett Van Hook, who is now in the electrical department of the business of which his father is secretary and treasurer; Martha J. and Mar- Page 658 garet J., who are at home. While residing in Indiana Mr. Sackett took an active part in the work of the Independent Order of Odd Fellows and the Knights of Pythias fraternities, but has not been connected with either since coming here. He has given his attention in an undivided manner to his business affairs. He possesses most excellent organizing and managing capacity and in the successful operation of the industries with which he is connected displays superior executive power.

Hi: Recently Liesa sent me a copy of a biographical sketch of 2731-George E. Sackett published in 1903 which gives more detail concerning George's business in Seattle, WA: "Volume of Memories & Genealogy of Representative Citizens of the City of Seattle & County of King, Washington:. Originally published 1903; Lewis Pub. Co.; New York, NY. Page 656 George E. Sackett. Success in any line of occupation, in any avenue of business is not a matter of luck but the legitimate result of effort ahich utilizes the means at hand. In view of this condition the study of biography becomes valuable, and it is a practical advantage to trace the history of a successful life, be it in the world of business, weher competition is rife, in the intellectual field, where devotees open up the wider realms of knowledge, in a public sphere, where is directed the course of government and the policies formed that sway nations, or in the calm and peaceful pursuits of agriculture. The at- tention of the reader is here directed to the life oa a man well known in busi- ness circles in Seattle by reason of his keen discrimination, untiring activity and executive power, and who occupies the position of secretary and treas- urer of the Diamond Ice & Storage Company and also the mutual Light & Heat Company. Mr. Sackett was born in Lanesville, Harrison county, Indiana, March 10, 1843. The family is a very old one in America and Sackett Harbor is named in honor of its earlsy representatives. The record can be traced back Page 657 to colonel Sackett, who constructed ships for the government during the Revolutionary war. The grandfather and the father of our subject both bore the name of Charles. The latter was born in Massachusetts in 1820, went with his family to Indaiana, becoming a very active and influential mem- ber of his community, and settling in Floyd county as one of its early pio- neers. there he took an important part in public affairs and served for ten years as county commissioner and for eight years as county auditor. He was also a member of the city council of New Albany, and his political support was given the Whig party in early life, while later he became a Democrat. In Inidana he was united in marriage to Miss Hoyce, a daughter of William Gresham, and uncle of the Hon. Walter Q. Gresham, who served as secretary of state under President Cleveland. thirteen children were born of this marriage, of whom our subject is the fourth in order of birth and the only one now living in Washington. The father still resides in Indiana and is now eighry-nine years of age, but the mother passed away at the age of sixty-three years. In the public schools of his native state George E. Sackett pursued his education and when fifteen years of age entered upoon his business career. He served for eight years as deputy county auditor undr his father and from that time until 1892 was connected with the iron manufacturing interests in the rolling mill of New Alvany. Thence he came to the west, and after looking over the country decided to locate in Seattle, bringing his family to this city in June, 1892. He and Charles E. Crane and others became the ownners of the ice plant, which was then but an insiginificant affair, but they have developed this industry until the plant now has a capacity of thirty tons a day. They are also doing an extensive cold storage business and have lagtely developed a steam heating industry furnishing heat for many homes in the territory lying between Madison and Pike streets. In the electircal department of their business they furnish light and power for the same terri- tory. This has been accomplished only by the most earnest and active effort, but they have succeeded in building up a fine business and devote their entire attention to the work, which has now proved to them a profitabel source of income. In Charleston, Indiana, on the 25th of October, 1876, Mr. Sackett was united in marriage to Miss Mary K. Van Hook, a daughter of William Van Hook, a druggist of that place and a representative of an old an prominent family in Indiana. Their union has been blessed with one son and two daughters. Errett Van Hook, who is now in the electrical department of the business of which his father is secretary and treasurer; Martha J. and Mar- Page 658 garet J., who are at home. While residing in Indiana Mr. Sackett took an active part in the work of the Independent Order of Odd Fellows and the Knights of Pythias fraternities, but has not been connected with either since coming here. He has given his attention in an undided manner to his business affairs. He possesses most excellent organizing and managing capacity and in the successful operation of the industries with which he is connected displays superior executive power.

Hi Jackie P.--- Was extremely excited to read your reply to Thurmon, and your trip to visit Frances Pipperiet in Ft. Wayne. The Frances I have in my records would be 86 years young. I have a couple of old snapshots that I would like to send you to show Frances. Please email me privately with your address and I will scan them and send to you. The contrast in them is very bad, but maybe you can tell what most of the people looked like in 1948/49 at Forest Park in Brazil, IN.. Regards, Eugene -- Original Message -- From: "pepjo" To: <SACKETT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wed, Nov 26, 2003 6:14 PM Subject: Re: [SACKETT-L] Thanks > Hello Thurmon., > Happy Thanksgiving to you also.You have really started something, my > brother John and I are making a trip next month to visit Frances Pippereit, > Mabel Dunn's daughter in Ft Wayne, IN. We are also in search of family > headstones in Brazil, Indiana. I will collect the information I can on her 7 > children and forward it to you to fill out the Pippereit descendants. At > some point in the future I hope you will share some information on the David > King's ancestors if you have any. Also we will figure out our relationship. > David King is my 7th great- father. > Sincerely, > Jackie Pepper >

1870 census Naples, Ontario, New York, page 283B Sackett, Erastus, age 74, born New York, Laborer Watkins, Eliza, age 68, born New York, Keeping House next household is Edwin Porter family 1860 census Naples, Ontario, New York, page 346 Erastus Sacket, age 62, born Mass Hulda " , age 73, " Eliza " , age 55, " The handwriting on this page is difficult to make out for sure, Thurmon, so will send you a copy of the census.. -----Original Message----- From: Thurmon E King [mailto:thurmonking@juno.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2003 12:16 AM To: SACKETT-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [SACKETT-L] Zelotus Sackett; a new clue 'Owdy: In the process of sorting through my files found on my two computers and the data recovery disks in an attempt to get things organized ... I found a new clue that might help in making a connection for him. On 31 Aug 2003 Pam sent me a note which contained the following: The census info I have on Erastus is from "census on line" so it doesn't have all the information, but here it is: 1850 Census Naples, Ontario Co., NY Family 12 Sackett, Eliza Page 2 Erastus Huldah 1855 Census Naples, Ontario, NY Sackett, Erastus Page 020 Huldah !860 Census Naples, Ontario Co., NY Sackett, Eliza Page 346 Erastus Huldah 1870 Census Naples, Ontario Co., NY Family 90 Sackett, Erastus Page 10 90 Watkins, Eliza 10 In 1855 I find an Eliza Watkins (page 020) living in Naples and a Williard Watkins on the same page. Not sure if this is the same Eliza. She seems to be a Sackett in 1860. Don't see Williard after that census. ------ I responded by sending Pam the 1850 census information for the family of Erastus Year: 1850; State: NY; County: Ontario; Township: Naples Roll: M432_571 Page: 1 12/12 Sacket, Erastis 59 m laborer MA Sacket, Huldah 61 f MA Sacket, Eliza 48 f MA Wadkins, Caroline M. 12 f NY I speculated that Erastis/Erastus was probably a nephew of 634-Joseph Sackett who died in Naples, Ontario Co., NY in 1842. While looking through my files to find 1860 census data Louella posted for Zelotus Sackett; {which I finally retrieved from the SACKETT-L Threaded Archives] I found this: 1860 census; Cohocton, Steuben Co., NY, page 654, Aug 1860 household #127, family #119 Jas.R. Porter, age 27, born N.York Caroline M. Porter, , age 22, " Eva W. Porter, age 2, " Viola E. Porter, age 7/12, " Zellatus Sackett, age 84, born Mass., Carpenter [Although the age recorded for Zellatus Sackett is 84; this appears to be Zelotus who would have been 72-73 in 1860 and we know he was a carpenter and was born in MA.] Now for the clue; Caroline M. Sackett age 12 in 1850 appears to be Caroline M. Porter in the 1860 census. If she is, this could indicate a family relationship between her and Zelotus. Also to be considered is the fact that in 1859 when Zelotus filled out his request for his military pay for his 1812 War service, the Justice of the Peace who signed the document was Josiah Porter. So if we could see the 1850 census for the household of Josiah Porter it might have a James R. Porter age 17. As given above; Pam also gave me information showing that the household of Erastus Sackett was listed in 1855, 1860, and 1870. The 1860 and 1870 census data would be helpful. Thurmon ==== SACKETT Mailing List ==== RootsWeb blocks attachments. So sharing photos is not possible through the list; send off-list individually. If you have a text file you wish to share, save it as text and insert the text into your message. ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Dear Sacketts, I am so happy to be a part of your wonderful group and to share in our heritage! I am especially proud to have the privilege of sharing our roots with our dear cousin, Thurmon! Happy Thanksgiving to all of you. Regards, Rachel

May I echo Thurmon's sentiment. Enjoy the Holiday. Tom ----- Original Message ----- From: "Thurmon E King" <thurmonking@juno.com> To: <SACKETT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2003 3:51 PM Subject: [SACKETT-L] Thanks > Hello Sackett Searchers; > > Among the thoughts I've had concerning Thanksgiving ... And things for > which I am thankful ... YOU rank near the top!! > > Others have said it more eloquently than I ever could. But you are a > great "bunch" of researchers and although very few of us have ever met > face to face ... I count you among my friends as well as "cousins" of > varying degrees. > > I am thankful for you tolerating the multitude of my postings, my > mistakes, and my great leaps of imagination. > I am thankful for you as you freely share your research, correct my > mistakes, and bring me back to reality when the need arises. > I am thankful for those of you who have an interest in developing SACKETT > lines beyond our own individual lines. > > The work I have done in developing a database with almost 21,000 Sackett > descendants and spouses and Chris Sackett's database would never have > been possible without your help and you sharing your research. > > Best wishes for a great Thanksgiving, > > Thurmon > > > ==== SACKETT Mailing List ==== > RootsWeb blocks attachments. So sharing photos is not possible through > the list; send off-list individually. If you have a text file you wish to share, save it as text and insert the text into your message. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Hello Thurmon., Happy Thanksgiving to you also.You have really started something, my brother John and I are making a trip next month to visit Frances Pippereit, Mabel Dunn's daughter in Ft Wayne, IN. We are also in search of family headstones in Brazil, Indiana. I will collect the information I can on her 7 children and forward it to you to fill out the Pippereit descendants. At some point in the future I hope you will share some information on the David King's ancestors if you have any. Also we will figure out our relationship. David King is my 7th great- father. Sincerely, Jackie Pepper ----- Original Message ----- From: "Thurmon E King" <thurmonking@juno.com> To: <SACKETT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2003 3:51 PM Subject: [SACKETT-L] Thanks > Hello Sackett Searchers; > > Among the thoughts I've had concerning Thanksgiving ... And things for > which I am thankful ... YOU rank near the top!! > > Others have said it more eloquently than I ever could. But you are a > great "bunch" of researchers and although very few of us have ever met > face to face ... I count you among my friends as well as "cousins" of > varying degrees. > > I am thankful for you tolerating the multitude of my postings, my > mistakes, and my great leaps of imagination. > I am thankful for you as you freely share your research, correct my > mistakes, and bring me back to reality when the need arises. > I am thankful for those of you who have an interest in developing SACKETT > lines beyond our own individual lines. > > The work I have done in developing a database with almost 21,000 Sackett > descendants and spouses and Chris Sackett's database would never have > been possible without your help and you sharing your research. > > Best wishes for a great Thanksgiving, > > Thurmon > > > ==== SACKETT Mailing List ==== > RootsWeb blocks attachments. So sharing photos is not possible through > the list; send off-list individually. If you have a text file you wish to share, save it as text and insert the text into your message. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Hello Sackett Searchers; Among the thoughts I've had concerning Thanksgiving ... And things for which I am thankful ... YOU rank near the top!! Others have said it more eloquently than I ever could. But you are a great "bunch" of researchers and although very few of us have ever met face to face ... I count you among my friends as well as "cousins" of varying degrees. I am thankful for you tolerating the multitude of my postings, my mistakes, and my great leaps of imagination. I am thankful for you as you freely share your research, correct my mistakes, and bring me back to reality when the need arises. I am thankful for those of you who have an interest in developing SACKETT lines beyond our own individual lines. The work I have done in developing a database with almost 21,000 Sackett descendants and spouses and Chris Sackett's database would never have been possible without your help and you sharing your research. Best wishes for a great Thanksgiving, Thurmon

'Owdy: In the process of sorting through my files found on my two computers and the data recovery disks in an attempt to get things organized ... I found a new clue that might help in making a connection for him. On 31 Aug 2003 Pam sent me a note which contained the following: The census info I have on Erastus is from "census on line" so it doesn't have all the information, but here it is: 1850 Census Naples, Ontario Co., NY Family 12 Sackett, Eliza Page 2 Erastus Huldah 1855 Census Naples, Ontario, NY Sackett, Erastus Page 020 Huldah !860 Census Naples, Ontario Co., NY Sackett, Eliza Page 346 Erastus Huldah 1870 Census Naples, Ontario Co., NY Family 90 Sackett, Erastus Page 10 90 Watkins, Eliza 10 In 1855 I find an Eliza Watkins (page 020) living in Naples and a Williard Watkins on the same page. Not sure if this is the same Eliza. She seems to be a Sackett in 1860. Don't see Williard after that census. ------ I responded by sending Pam the 1850 census information for the family of Erastus Year: 1850; State: NY; County: Ontario; Township: Naples Roll: M432_571 Page: 1 12/12 Sacket, Erastis 59 m laborer MA Sacket, Huldah 61 f MA Sacket, Eliza 48 f MA Wadkins, Caroline M. 12 f NY I speculated that Erastis/Erastus was probably a nephew of 634-Joseph Sackett who died in Naples, Ontario Co., NY in 1842. While looking through my files to find 1860 census data Louella posted for Zelotus Sackett; {which I finally retrieved from the SACKETT-L Threaded Archives] I found this: 1860 census; Cohocton, Steuben Co., NY, page 654, Aug 1860 household #127, family #119 Jas.R. Porter, age 27, born N.York Caroline M. Porter, , age 22, " Eva W. Porter, age 2, " Viola E. Porter, age 7/12, " Zellatus Sackett, age 84, born Mass., Carpenter [Although the age recorded for Zellatus Sackett is 84; this appears to be Zelotus who would have been 72-73 in 1860 and we know he was a carpenter and was born in MA.] Now for the clue; Caroline M. Sackett age 12 in 1850 appears to be Caroline M. Porter in the 1860 census. If she is, this could indicate a family relationship between her and Zelotus. Also to be considered is the fact that in 1859 when Zelotus filled out his request for his military pay for his 1812 War service, the Justice of the Peace who signed the document was Josiah Porter. So if we could see the 1850 census for the household of Josiah Porter it might have a James R. Porter age 17. As given above; Pam also gave me information showing that the household of Erastus Sackett was listed in 1855, 1860, and 1870. The 1860 and 1870 census data would be helpful. Thurmon

Hi -- Couldn't help but notice the emails about "Sackett letters." Just curious. I am a Sackett. Several years ago when I first got my first computer, I joined the geneology Sackett group and had several communications -- but alas, they really didn't lead me anywhere. I have so little info. My dad, George Brown Sackett was born in New York City in 1892. His dad was George also and there are a few family cousin's names I know but not much to go on. Just thought I'd do a little name dropping. Happy holidays, Edie (Edith Aline Sackett Salzano)

Louella and Cindy: Thank you for the added information about Vermont and the Rev. War. At times I think I learn more history from our family research than I learned in history classes in school. [Maybe it has something to do with me now doing it because I like doing it and in school it was something I HAD to do.] (:>D Another aspect of the attitude of the citizens of Vermont during the Rev. War could be the way the New York Colony came in and voided land grants authorized by the King. And there must have been times during the war that the settlers there must have like someone trying to have a picnic on the 50 yard line durning a pro football game !! They were getting run over by both sides. Thurmon On Tue, 25 Nov 2003 01:24:12 -0500 <louellas@endor.com> writes: > Thurmon, I have done quite a bit of Vermont research re: the > Revolutionary War time. One of my husband's ancestors is listed > in Vermont Militia Rolls and then is in Canada as a Loyalist. One > person > I talked to in the Historical Society in Rutland, VT said there > is some evidence that some of the Vermont Militia might have > had some kind of agreement with the British. Anyway, my daughter > could > belong to the DAR and the Canadian Loyalist organization for the > same person. So Reuben could have actually been a Loyalist even > enrolled in a Militia unit..maybe depended upon the militia unit? > Am going to be talking to an historian about Ethan Allen in the next > few > days, since there was some kind of lawsuit between his family and > mine > right after the Rev. War. Will ask him about the Loyalist/Milita > question. > Louella > > -----Original Message----- > From: Thurmon E King [mailto:thurmonking@juno.com] > Sent: Monday, November 24, 2003 4:14 PM > To: SACKETT-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [SACKETT-L] Sackett Family > > > > Blanche: > > Thanks for the information. All I can say is that I'm going to > have > some "fun" sorting out all the info that has come in during the past > few > weeks ... Along with what I've searched out which relates to these > families. > > To add a new "twist" to some of the info that has come: > In Wendy's posting of the letters by Charles Weygant we see that he > was > considering a Reuben Sackett as a son of Richard, Jr. but it appears > that > he changed his mind when he received some probate papers from New > Milford, CT which did not list a Reuben among the heirs. Then > Katherine > Russell sent the bit about a Reuben Sackett being involved in the > trial > and hanging of David Redden in Bennington, VT. > > We have 710-Mary Sackett marrying Israel Canfield and moving, c1768, > to > Arlington, VT [just north of Bennington]. The information I have > for > Mary (Sackett) Canfield is that she was a Loyalist while her husband > was > active in service against the Crown. > > In the information I have found for Reuben Sackett is that he and > his > son, Enoch, both served in the Rev. War from VT. Reuben's service > was in > 1780 from Pownal, VT [a few miles south of Bennington], near the end > of > the war and following the 1778 trial of David Reddin at which time > Reuben > was lashed for helping David Redden escape prior to his trial and > conviction. So, did Reuben help David Redden escape because he > agreed > with David, or was it because was a friend and knew him personally? > > In the information relating to the "Mystery Sacketts of Vermont" I > had > one source which has Reuben taking the oath of allegance about the > time > Vermont granted a general amnesty to those who had opposed the > revolution; provided they take an oath of allegance. This had been > a > mystery to me considering the fact that Reuben had served in the > Rev. > War. But it appears that it could have been the result of him being > punished because of his assistance to David Redden. Reuben's two > sons, > Enoch and Reuben, jr. also took the oath. > > That is enough for now, > Thurmon > > On Sun, 23 Nov 2003 22:33:02 -0500 Harry McKay > <bhmckay5743@juno.com> > writes: > > Thurmon, > > > > I did not answer your question on the last message of when the > land > > sale > > took place between Margery and John Sackett and Hendrick Nase. It > > was on > > 10 May 1749. > > > > A real mystery on the dates of birth of Richard Sackett, Jr.'s > > children. > > The Dutchess County record shows a daughter, Elisabeth, baptized > on > > 26 > > May 1739. The Barbour Collection for New Milford, Ct. has Cathren > > (spelled that way) and Elisabeth as twins, b. 14 Oct. 1751; > Richard > > b. 15 > > Jul. 1749. If Richard Sackett, Jr. was born ca 1701, he would > have > > been > > about 50 years old when some of these children were born. His > > daughter > > Margery married David Green 12 Jul. 1759, and Mary married Israel > > Canfield 6 Apr.1758. Neither one of their births is given in the > > book, > > but a website gives Mary's as 5 Oct.1742. Mary would have been 16 > > years > > old at her marriage which was not uncommon. If Margery was 18 or > 20 > > years old, she would have been born ca 1739-1741. Maybe Richard > > married > > in his late 30's. According to Weygant, he moved his "family" to > > New > > Milford in 1746. I do wish we could find a record of his > marriage. > > > > I went down to the public library today and plowed through some > > Dutch > > records but did not find anything of substance. I do have some > more > > names to check for the wife of Richard. > > > > On the Catherine Sackett marrying Andreas Theodor Larsdatter, > > another one > > has Thomas Wolcott marrying that same person. If I remember how > > some > > Swedish names went in the old days, the Andreas could be a female, > > and > > was identified as Lar's datter (daughter). But, I think we can > put > > that > > one to rest. > > > > In a book at the library on "Inhabitants of Colonial New > > York-Excerpted > > from the Documentary History of the State of New York", by Edmund > > Bailey > > O'Callaghan, there was one census for Richard Sackett. It said > the > > census was taken about 1703. This had 1 male 16-65; 1 female; 2 > > male > > children; 2 female children; 3 male negroes; 1 female negro. The > > negroes > > had to be older in years, as negro children were listed separately > > on the > > census. > > > > Something else I just happened to spot in the Barbour collection > was > > the > > marriage of a Rebecka Sackett, of Westfield, to Salmon Carrington > of > > New > > Milford, Ct. on 6 Nov. 1771. You may already have this. The > > nearest I > > could find in Weygant's book is # 627 Rebecca b. 10 Jun. 1746. She > > married M.S. Clarenton according to Weygant. 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