New Member: Dean Roe is the 6th great grandson of Samuel Sackett b. 7 May 1702 Newhaven, CT who married 11 Dec 1728, Elizabeth Todd b.1709 Newhaven, CT. Samuel was the son of John Sackett b. 30 Apr 1653, who married abt.1686 Mary Wooding b.abt.1659 Newhaven, CT. John Sacket was the son of the original New Haven John Sackett b. abt. 1623/28 d. 3 Sep 1684 who married Agnes Tinkham b. abt. 1628 d. 1707, John lived in New Haven CT. from at least 1641 on until his death. Going back to Samuel (b.1702) Sackett's dau. Sarah Sackett b. 9 Apr 1730, she married Daniel Barnes b. Nov 1725 New Haven, Ct. Their daughter Jemima Barnes b. 8 Nov 1761 North Haven, Ct., married Ebenezer Pardee b. 27 Jan 1755 North Haven, CT. There son Ebenezer Pardee b. 13 Sep 1787 married Thankful Johnson b. 14 May 1791 Southampton, CT. Their daughter Eliza Ann Pardee b. 7 June 1814 Cats, Cortland Co., NY, married Jason Schuyler Beach b. 7 Aug 1814 Greene Co., NY. Their dau. Emma Beach b. 21 Aug 1852 Whitewater, Wisconsin, married Halsey Roe in 1871 Whitewater, WI. Their son Ogden Roe who married in 1905, Hester Godfrey and were the parents of Wilfred Roe, who is my father, who married in 1931, Virginia Howard. Hope this helps find others who are related to this line of Sackett descendants. I have information on the families of all the different lines mentioned above. If you can help or need help with any of these line, I would appreciate it. We are still looking for information on the original John Sackett b. 1623 or 1628 and Agnes Tinkham and their origins. _______________________________________________________________________ This message was scanned and certified Virus Free by Alexssa | HNet. www.alexssa.net www.hnet.net

Dear Chris: This discussion led me to review material I have in my files from some of our previous discussions relating to the date of Simon's migration to America and the Sackett/Bloomfield connection. I found an interesting bit of information relating to Mr. William Goodwin who was in Newtowne, MA; Hartford, CT and later was one of the founders of Hadley, MA. The part of the quote which follows that is interesting to me is this; On 25 June 1632 (and repeated on 16 July 1632 and 4 August 1632) William Goodwin was presented at the Commissary Court of Essex and Herts for "not receiving the Holy Communion at Easter nor since in his parish church" [Goodwin Papers 2:1175-77]. Several other members of the "Braintree Company," fellow passengers on the Lyon, were also presented at these courts, for the same or similar offenses, but they were safely beyond the reach of the ecclesiastical courts, as they were at sea on these dates. Admission to a Massachusetts Bay church, presumably Watertown, prior to 6 November 1632 implied by freemanship. He must soon have transferred his membership to the Cambridge church, and became elder of that church, for Winthrop reports that at the General Court held on 3 September 1634 "Mr. Goodwin, a very reverend and godly man, being the elder of the congregation of Newtown, having, in heat of argument, used some unreverend speech to one of the assistants, and being reproved for the same in open court, did gravely and humbly acknowledge his fault, etc." [WJ 1:169-70]; this episode does not appear in the official records of the General Court. And; COMMENTS: Included in list of those to provide pales for common, with assignment of 20 rods, dated 7 January 1632/3 (although the list was actually compiled later) [CaTR 5]. At Hampshire court on 17 March 1662/3 "Sergeant Stebbins of Springfield attorney for Mr. Goodwin of Hadley" complained against widow Sackett of Springfield, adminstratrix, and William Blomfield, adminstrator to the estate of Symon Sackett deceased, in a matter of debt and the court ruled for the plaintiff [Pynchon Court 267-68]. It would appear that it has been assumed by Anderson that Simon Sackett was among the passengers with Mr Goodwin on the Lyon, Best wishes, Thurmon ===================== The full article is: WILLIAM GOODWIN ORIGIN: Braintree, Essex MIGRATION: 1632 on Lyon [Hotten 150] FIRST RESIDENCE: Cambridge REMOVES: Hartford 1636, Hadley by 1659, Farmington by 1670 CHURCH MEMBERSHIP: William Goodwin was a sidesman of the church at Braintree, Essex, in 1622, and churchwarden in 1630 and 1631 [Goodwin Papers 2:1171-73]. On 25 June 1632 (and repeated on 16 July 1632 and 4 August 1632) William Goodwin was presented at the Commissary Court of Essex and Herts for "not receiving the Holy Communion at Easter nor since in his parish church" [Goodwin Papers 2:1175-77]. Several other members of the "Braintree Company," fellow passengers on the Lyon, were also presented at these courts, for the same or similar offenses, but they were safely beyond the reach of the ecclesiastical courts, as they were at sea on these dates. Admission to a Massachusetts Bay church, presumably Watertown, prior to 6 November 1632 implied by freemanship. He must soon have transferred his membership to the Cambridge church, and became elder of that church, for Winthrop reports that at the General Court held on 3 September 1634 "Mr. Goodwin, a very reverend and godly man, being the elder of the congregation of Newtown, having, in heat of argument, used some unreverend speech to one of the assistants, and being reproved for the same in open court, did gravely and humbly acknowledge his fault, etc." [WJ 1:169-70]; this episode does not appear in the official records of the General Court. At Hartford William Goodwin was the leader of the group which disputed with Rev. Samuel Stone [WJ 1:169-70, footnote; CCCR 1:318]. FREEMAN: 6 November 1632 [MBCR 1:367]. EDUCATION: On 24 February 1661/2 and on 1 February 1663/4 William Goodwin "in the name of the rest of the trustees" wrote long and learned letters from Hadley to the court at Hartford, regarding the settling of the estate of Mr. Hopkins [CCCR 1:374-75, 578-79; see also WJ 1:273-75]. Committee to "gather up [those passages of God's providence which have been remarkable since our first undertaking these plantations], and deliver them into the General Court in April next, and if it be judged then fit, they may be recorded," 10 October 1639 [CCCR 1:39]. On 22 June 1636 William Goodwin addressed a letter to John Winthrop Jr. from "Sekioge [Hartford]," reporting early happenings at Hartford. OFFICES: Deputy for Cambridge to General Court, 14 May 1635 [MBCR 1:116]. Appointed to committee "to consider of the act of Mr. Endicott, in defacing the colors," 6 May 1635 [MBCR 1:145]. Committee to deal with "Soheage, an Indian the sachem of Pyquaagg now called Wythersfield," 5 April 1638 [CCCR 1:20]. ESTATE: Granted a cowyard of three roods in Cambridge, 5 August 1633 [CaTR 5]. Granted two acres in "the mead[ow] next Wattertowne weir," 21 April 1635 [CaTR 12]. Granted a proportional share of three in meadow ground, 20 August 1635 [CaTR 13]. Granted two acres between Charlestown path and the common pales, 8 February 1635/6 [CaTR 17]. In the Cambridge land inventory, on 20 August 1635, William Goodwin was listed with eight parcels of land: one house with backside in town, about half a rood; three roods in Cowyard Row; two acres and a half in Old Field; two acres in Old Field; fourteen acres and a half in the Neck of Land; one acre and a rood in the Ox Marsh; three acres and one rood in Long Marsh; and thirteen acres in the Great Marsh [CaBOP 12-13]. (Most of this land passed into the hands of Samuel Shepard [CaBOP 77].) ..." OFFICES: Deputy for Cambridge to General Court, 14 May 1635 [MBCR 1:116]. Appointed to committee "to consider of the act of Mr. Endicott, in defacing the colors," 6 May 1635 [MBCR 1:145]. Committee to deal with "Soheage, an Indian the sachem of Pyquaagg now called Wythersfield," 5 April 1638 [CCCR 1:20]. ESTATE: Granted a cowyard of three roods in Cambridge, 5 August 1633 [CaTR 5]. Granted two acres in "the mead[ow] next Wattertowne weir," 21 April 1635 [CaTR 12]. Granted a proportional share of three in meadow ground, 20 August 1635 [CaTR 13]. Granted two acres between Charlestown path and the common pales, 8 February 1635/6 [CaTR 17]. In the Cambridge land inventory, on 20 August 1635, William Goodwin was listed with eight parcels of land: one house with backside in town, about half a rood; three roods in Cowyard Row; two acres and a half in Old Field; two acres in Old Field; fourteen acres and a half in the Neck of Land; one acre and a rood in the Ox Marsh; three acres and one rood in Long Marsh; and thirteen acres in the Great Marsh [CaBOP 12-13]. (Most of this land passed into the hands of Samuel Shepard [CaBOP 77].) In the Hartford land inventory of February 1639 "Mr. William Good~wing elder there in Christ Church" held twenty-two parcels, seven of which had been granted to him: three acres with dwelling house, outhouses, yards and gardens; one acre, one rood and ten perches in the Little Meadow; thirty acres, three roods and twelve perches of meadow and swamp in the North Meadow; four acres and thirty-four perches on the east side of the Great River; fourteen acres in the Old Oxpasture; eight acres in the Cowpasture; and twenty-eight acres, three roods and twenty-eight perches on the west side of the Little River. Among the remaining parcels, acquired by purchase, was "one parcel belonging to Mr. Goodwin & to John Crow jointly lying on the east side of the Great River," which they had bought from several persons, totalling seven hundred sixty-six acres [HaBOP 23-28]. On 26 March 1645 "Mr. William Goodwin of Hartford upon Connecticut River, ruling elder in the Church of Christ there, and John Crow of the same town, planter," sold to "Thomas Newell of Tunkses Sepos [Farmington] and John Standly of Hartford ... all our buildings and dividend or dividends of land made or to be made at Tunkses Seposs" [Farmington LR 1:54]. On 3 October 1654 Connecticut court gave "Mr. Will[iam] Goodwin liberty to make use of what timber from the waste land belonging to the country he shall have occasion for to keep his saw mill in employment" [CCCR 1:262]. On 14 March 1660/1 Connecticut court "having heard the case respecting Jeremie and John Adams and Edward Stebbing, respecting the sale of the homelot of Thomas Greenhill, at Hartford, do sentence and conclude, that the said sale of that lot by Edward Stebbing to Mr. Goodwin is a legal sale: the sale being acknowledged by Edward Stebbin in open court" [CCCR 1:362]. BIRTH: By about 1591 based on date of first marriage. DEATH: Farmington 11 March 1673 [Farm VR Barbour 58, citing FarmLR 2:141]. MARRIAGE: (1) Shalford, Essex, 7 November 1616 Elizabeth White, daughter of Robert White of Messing, Essex [NEHGR 55:24]; she died before January 1669/70. (2) After 7 December 1654 and by January 1669/70 Susan (Garbrand) Hooker, widow of Rev. THOMAS HOOKER; she died at Farmington 17 May 1676 [Farm VR Barbour 58, citing FarmLR 2:141]. CHILD: With first wife i ELIZABETH, b. say 1620; m. by about 1640 John Crow of Hartford (probably as his second wife, since his eldest daughter Esther was born about 1628 and so was too old to be daughter of Elizabeth Goodwin) [Goodwin Gen 105-07]. In 1674 "Ozias Goodwin aged 78 years and W[illia]m Goodwin aged about 45 years" testified that "Mr. W[illia]m Goodwin deceased and Mr. John Crow his son-in-law ... were copartners in their buyings and sellings" [Goodwin Gen 107-08, citing Connecticut Archives, Private Controversies, Volume One]. ASSOCIATIONS: William Goodwin's first wife, Elizabeth White, was sister of Mary White, wife of Joseph Loomis of Braintree, and of Anna White, wife of John Porter of Windsor [NEHGR 55:22-31]. Ozias Goodwin, who first appears at Hartford in 1639, was a brother of William Goodwin. On 19 December 1661 "`the town [Hadley] renewed Osias Goodwin's former grant' on certain conditions, which Mr. William Goodwin undertook to perform `for his brother'" [Goodwin Gen 91, citing Hadley Town Records]. COMMENTS: Included in list of those to provide pales for common, with assignment of 20 rods, dated 7 January 1632/3 (although the list was actually compiled later) [CaTR 5]. At Hampshire court on 17 March 1662/3 "Sergeant Stebbins of Springfield attorney for Mr. Goodwin of Hadley" complained against widow Sackett of Springfield, adminstratrix, and William Blomfield, adminstrator to the estate of Symon Sackett deceased, in a matter of debt and the court ruled for the plaintiff [Pynchon Court 267-68]. BIBLIOGRAPHIC NOTE: The family of William Goodwin has been especially well treated in print, due mostly to the patronage of James Junius Goodwin and the research of Frank Farnsworth Starr. In 1891 a number of authors, at the behest of James Junius Goodwin, wrote lengthy chapters which were gathered as The Goodwins of Hartford, Connecticut, Descendants of William and Ozias Goodwin (Hartford 1891), cited herein as Goodwin Gen. A biographical account of William Goodwin himself was prepared by Rev. George Leon Walker (pp. 77-94), and a similar treatment of Ozias Goodwin was done by Charles J. Hoadly (pp. 97-102). Frank Farnsworth Starr compiled the genealogies of the descendants of these two immigrants (pp. 105ff.). James Junius Goodwin then commissioned Starr to compile an account of some of his ancestral lines, which did not include any Goodwin material, presumably since that had already been published in 1891 (Various Ancestral Lines of James Goodwin and Lucy (Morgan) Goodwin of Hartford, Connecticut, 2 volumes [Hartford 1915], cited herein as Goodwin Anc). Finally, the same team produced a massive three-volume set based on decades of research on the Goodwin name in England (English Goodwin Family Papers, Being Material Collected in the Search for the Ancestry of William and Ozias Goodwin, Immigrants of 1632 and Residents of Hartford, Connecticut, 3 volumes [Hartford 1921], cited herein as Goodwin Papers). The material of most interest to descendants of William Goodwin may be found in Volume Two (pp. 1123-24, 1171-77). ************ On Wed, 25 Feb 2004 10:06:52 -0000 "Chris Sackett" <chris@sackett.org.uk> writes: > For the attention of Robert Anderson. > > Dear Mr Anderson, > > I refer to the undated list appearing at the beginning of the > Cambridge > (Newtowne) Town Records - > > The Towne [ ] > Newtowne > Inhabitants then > Tho = Dudly Efqr > mr Symon Bradftreet > mr Edmond Lockwood > mr Daniell Patrike > John Poole > William Spencer > John Kirman > Symon Sackett > > In the entry for Simon Sackett in The Great Migration you date this > list as > "probably from 1632". > > A plaque in Cambridge states - > > "SETTLEMENT IN NEWTOWNE > > By July 16, 1631, eight houses were completed and occupied by > Dudley, > Bradstreet, Lockwood, Poole, "Capt." Patrick, Spencer, Kirman, and > Sackett." > > It seems clear that whoever caused the plaque to be erected used the > Town > Records as a source (notwithstanding the switching of the names > Patrick and > Poole). > > My question concerns the date. Do you have any information, perhaps > discovered after publication of the first volume of The Great > Migration, > concerning the source of the date July 16, 1631? > > Sincerely, > Chris Sackett

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Sackett Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/ChEBAIB/173.1.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Thanks for the additional information. That helps.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Sackett Reynolds Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/ChEBAIB/173.1.1.1.2 Message Board Post: GREAT! Yes, I do have quite a bit on Sarah's descendants. Am also forwarding your reply to another researcher who has some that I don't have. I will clean up my data a bit and send to you.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg//ChEBAIB/173.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: After I posted my response I remembered that Norman Sackett's wife, Sally, died in 1827 and Norman placed the children with his brothers and sisters. So it may very well be that Sarah was placed in the household of Harvey. Thurmon King TSFA Historian

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg//ChEBAIB/173.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Sarah Celina/Selina was the daughter of Harvey's brother Norman Sackett and his wife Sally Northrup. If you have information about her descendants I would love to have it to add to the TSFA [The Sackett Family Association] database. Thurmon King TSFA Historian

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Sackett Reynolds Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/ChEBAIB/173.1.1 Message Board Post: Did Harvey Sackett have a daughter Sarah Selina, born about 1819 in Talmadge, OH, who married Wm. J. Reynolds in Huron Co., OH in 1839?

For the attention of Robert Anderson. Dear Mr Anderson, I refer to the undated list appearing at the beginning of the Cambridge (Newtowne) Town Records - The Towne [ ] Newtowne Inhabitants then Tho = Dudly Efqr mr Symon Bradftreet mr Edmond Lockwood mr Daniell Patrike John Poole William Spencer John Kirman Symon Sackett In the entry for Simon Sackett in The Great Migration you date this list as "probably from 1632". A plaque in Cambridge states - "SETTLEMENT IN NEWTOWNE By July 16, 1631, eight houses were completed and occupied by Dudley, Bradstreet, Lockwood, Poole, "Capt." Patrick, Spencer, Kirman, and Sackett." It seems clear that whoever caused the plaque to be erected used the Town Records as a source (notwithstanding the switching of the names Patrick and Poole). My question concerns the date. Do you have any information, perhaps discovered after publication of the first volume of The Great Migration, concerning the source of the date July 16, 1631? Sincerely, Chris Sackett

Thurmon E King wrote: > The first American record we have for Simon is an undated one which is > considered by Anderson {"The Great Migration Begins"] to have been from > about 1632. As I stated, the plaque in the Old Newtowne section of > Cambridge, MA lists the Sackett surname among those who had established > themselves there by 26 Jul 1630 [the source for this is not clear]. Thurmon, Your explanation in reply to Arabella was very helpful. I hadn't figured why the Winthrop Society site had Simon as a cowherd but your theory makes good sense. One small detail above ( but maybe an important one) - the date on the plaque is 26 Jul 1631. This date would of course leave possible Weygant's version of an arrival in Feb 1630/31. I re-checked the list on the plaque (Dudley, Bradstreet, Lockwood, Poole, "Capt." Patrick, Spencer, Kirman, and Sackett) and confirmed that this was the same as the undated list appearing at the beginning of the Cambridge Town Records which Anderson considered to have been "probably" from 1632. The only difference is the order of Poole and Patrick. The list in the book is - The Towne [ ] Newtowne Inhabitants then Tho = Dudly Efqr mr Symon Bradftreet mr Edmond Lockwood mr Daniell Patrike John Poole William Spencer John Kirman Symon Sackett I think we have gone over this data several times before but I don't recall that I had previously taken in the import of the date 26 July 1631. The list on the plaque must surely have been taken from the Town Records (notwithstanding the switch of Poole and Patrick), but where did they get the date from? It is not in the book. And Anderson was obviously unaware of any date. The date must appear in some other record that neither we nor Anderson know about. Do we know who caused the plaque to be erected? Maybe we could write to whoever that was (presumably a Cambridge Historical Society or somesuch) asking for details of their source for the date. Kind regards, Chris

Thank you for your swift reply. I will check my source who is a big history buff. But he seems sure that the Sacketts did sail on the Mayflower. But we all can make mistakes. I have been so busy with my paid work that Sackett searching has had to take second place for the moment. But even when covering the Michael Flatley event in Monaco, last August I found myself sitting next to a Sackett. Michael was dancing for the Prince Rainier and Princess Caroline at the Red Cross Ball. We Sacketts do get about. I would love to hear from any Sacketts in California and Canada. My very best from one cold and snow bound England. Arabella Sackett. -----Original Message----- From: Thurmon E King [mailto:thurmonking@juno.com] Sent: 23 February 2004 02:05 To: SACKETT-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [SACKETT-L] RE: Church The Sackett History... The English side of the pond. Arabella; Its been a while since we heard from you. After your earlier posts concerning the Sacketts coming to America on the Mayflower, we have done some more checking into the matter. If one is talking about THE Mayflower which came over in 1620; we can say that Simon Sackett did not come over on that voyage. That voyage was connected to the Plymouth Colony while Simon Sackett came over in connection with the Massachusetts Bay Colony in 1630. The plaque in Old Newtowne in Cambridge, MA names a Sackett [Simon] as one of those who first built there by July 26, 1631. The prevalent belief has been that Simon Sackett and his wife came over on the ship Lyon leaving England in Dec. 1630 and arriving in America in Feb. 1631. Now, if there was a ship named Mayflower that made a voyage to America in connection with the Massachusetts Bay Colony in late 1630 or early 1631; then Simon Sackett could possibly have been one of the passengers. Warm regards, Thurmon King TSFA Historian On Sun, 22 Feb 2004 23:21:40 -0000 "Sackett" <Sackett@BTinternet.com> writes: > Hello to you Sackets out there. Gosh I didn't know just how many > existed. And to think I with the help of my Sackett husband seem to > be swelling the numbers. Our six children seem to be adding to the > Sacketts, with some enthusiasm. I am researching my husband's > family. > Which we understand started the journey over on the Mayflower. Well > that's what my research tells me. As a writer I find the whole story > and journey so exciting. BUT is also very tiresome, not being able to > trace simple links. When in the USA you have more freedom, to paper files, > than we do over here because of the data protection act. If I can > help please, do contact me as I have been to the Church in Thanet . Best > wishes Arabella Sackett..Nee Blake. ==== SACKETT Mailing List ==== Visit the SACKETT-L Web Page at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~sidersn/sackett ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237

Arabella: The question of the ship and precise date for the arrival of Simon Sackett in America is one we have not solved. However, we do have records in the Isle of Thanet which serve as a guide. Simon Sackett married Elizabeth Boyman in St Peter the Apostle Church in Thanet on 2 Nov 1618 and they had three daughters born in 1620, 1623 and 1625. Elizabeth Boyman died and Simon Sackett married Isabel Pearce on 6 Aug 1627 in St. John's in Isle of Thanet. From this it would appear to be evident that Simon and Isabel did not migrate to America before 6 Aug 1627. The first American record we have for Simon is an undated one which is considered by Anderson {"The Great Migration Begins"] to have been from about 1632. As I stated, the plaque in the Old Newtowne section of Cambridge, MA lists the Sackett surname among those who had established themselves there by 26 Jul 1630 [the source for this is not clear]. The Winthrop Society lists Simon Sackett as a "cowherd"; presumably because he recieved property for a "cowyard" (Source: Cambridge Town Records, p5, "Lotts Granted for Cowyardes. [listed among others] Symo Sakt 1/2 akr."). However, it was the practice at that time for all the inhabitants of a town to have the livestock pens in one location rather than keeping the animals near the individual homes. Therefore, time for Simon's arrival in America would appear to be between his marriage to Isabel Pearce on 6 Aug 1627 and 1630, or 1632. Concerning the ship on which Simon and Isabel came to America it is unfortunate that the early "passenger lists" we have are mostly reconstructions and are not considered to be complete. So, with the information we presently have we cannot be certain of the ship or the precise date of Simon's arrival. Most of the early histories [including Weygant] were of the opinion that Simon and Isabel arrived on the ship "Lyon" with Capt. William Pearce, Master. So then, anyone who can discover a document which gives us conclusive information for the name of the ship and the date of arrival for Simon Sackett in America will make a multitude of his descendants very happy!! I might add that there are other questions which beg to be answered, viz. when and how did John Sackett of the New Haven Colony in Connecticut come to be there? Who were his parents? Was he related to Simon Sackett and Isabel Pearce? & etc. Regards, Thurmon On Tue, 24 Feb 2004 11:39:50 -0000 "Sackett" <Sackett@BTinternet.com> writes: > Thank you for your swift reply. I will check my source who is a big > history buff. But he seems sure that the Sacketts did sail on the > Mayflower. But we all can make mistakes. I have been so busy with my > paid work that Sackett searching has had to take second place for > the > moment. But even when covering the Michael Flatley event in Monaco, > last > August I found myself sitting next to a Sackett. Michael was dancing > for > the Prince Rainier and Princess Caroline at the Red Cross Ball. We > Sacketts do get about. I would love to hear from any Sacketts in > California and Canada. My very best from one cold and snow bound > England. Arabella Sackett.

On Monday, February 23, 2004, at 05:58 PM, pbohler wrote: > Hi Everyone, Thank you all for the information on St. Peter's. > Thurman's postings of Dr Emmel's photos is wonderful. Thank you to > Chris for the wonderful photo (including graveyard) and all the rest of > you for your help. It would be great if someone would do a pencil > drawing that would be available to the Sackett List and the TSFA for > purchase by members. Hint, hint. This is the best family list I've ever > belonged. You are great. Patty B ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ My Sackett line did not migrate from Ramsgate, Kent Co., England, to New York City until about 1836; while in England, they (and probably relatives) belonged to the Saint Lawrence Parish in Ramsgate. Anyone taking or getting pictures of St. Peter church in Thanet, may also wish to get pics of St. Lawrence Parish (Ramsgate, Kent Co, England) at same time. A cousin over there wrote me that the cemetary at St. Lawrence was severely damaged by German bombs during WWII, but did not mention the church. Gordon Sackett Adams: goradams@sbcglobal.net > >

Hi Everyone, Thank you all for the information on St. Peter's. Thurman's postings of Dr Emmel's photos is wonderful. Thank you to Chris for the wonderful photo (including graveyard) and all the rest of you for your help. It would be great if someone would do a pencil drawing that would be available to the Sackett List and the TSFA for purchase by members. Hint, hint. This is the best family list I've ever belonged. You are great. Patty B

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Here are a couple of sites about the "Great Migration" Lists settlers but warns that it is not complete list http://www.winthropsociety.org/settlers.php Lists ships and the dates they came over http://www.winthropsociety.org/ships.php Liesa > > From: Thurmon E King <thurmonking@juno.com> > Date: 2004/02/23 Mon AM 02:04:45 GMT > To: SACKETT-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [SACKETT-L] RE: Church The Sackett History... The English side of the pond. > > Arabella; > > Its been a while since we heard from you. > > After your earlier posts concerning the Sacketts coming to America on the > Mayflower, we have done some more checking into the matter. > > If one is talking about THE Mayflower which came over in 1620; we can say > that Simon Sackett did not come over on that voyage. That voyage was > connected to the Plymouth Colony while Simon Sackett came over in > connection with the Massachusetts Bay Colony in 1630. The plaque in Old > Newtowne in Cambridge, MA names a Sackett [Simon] as one of those who > first built there by July 26, 1631. The prevalent belief has been that > Simon Sackett and his wife came over on the ship Lyon leaving England in > Dec. 1630 and arriving in America in Feb. 1631. > > Now, if there was a ship named Mayflower that made a voyage to America in > connection with the Massachusetts Bay Colony in late 1630 or early 1631; > then Simon Sackett could possibly have been one of the passengers. > > Warm regards, > Thurmon King > TSFA Historian > > On Sun, 22 Feb 2004 23:21:40 -0000 "Sackett" <Sackett@BTinternet.com> > writes: > > Hello to you Sackets out there. Gosh I didn't know just how many > > existed. And to think I with the help of my Sackett husband seem to > > be swelling the numbers. Our six children seem to be adding to the > > Sacketts, with some enthusiasm. I am researching my husband's > > family. > > Which we understand started the journey over on the Mayflower. Well > > that's what my research tells me. As a writer I find the whole story > > and journey so exciting. BUT is also very tiresome, not being able to > > trace simple links. When in the USA you have more freedom, to paper > files, > > than we do over here because of the data protection act. If I can > > help please, do contact me as I have been to the Church in Thanet . > Best > > wishes Arabella Sackett..Nee Blake. > > > ==== SACKETT Mailing List ==== > Visit the SACKETT-L Web Page at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~sidersn/sackett > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > >

Hi, I will make a note to myself to send you photos, etc upon my return. Sincerely, Jackie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pauline" <psp@xmission.com> To: <SACKETT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2004 7:06 PM Subject: Re: [SACKETT-L] St Peter the Apostle: Thanet > Jackie, I do pencil drawings and would like to try doing a pencil drawing > of it if you would get me a copy of the picture too. > Pauline Peterson > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "pepjo" <pepjo@prodigy.net> > To: <SACKETT-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2004 9:12 AM > Subject: Re: [SACKETT-L] St Peter the Apostle: Thanet > > > > Hi, > > I will be visiting the church sometime during my upcoming trip to the UK. > I > > will try to secure a good photograph or some other picture. > > Jackie Pepper > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Tom Smith" <tsmith26@comcast.net> > > To: <SACKETT-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2004 10:20 AM > > Subject: Re: [SACKETT-L] St Peter the Apostle: Thanet > > > > > > > Patty, I tried the web address I sent to the list but it didn't work. I > > sent > > > an email to their address and will let you know if I get an answer. > > > Tom > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "pbohler" <pbohler@comcast.net> > > > To: <SACKETT-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2004 8:49 PM > > > Subject: [SACKETT-L] St Peter the Apostle: Thanet > > > > > > > > > > Hi list, It would really be nice if there was a > drawing/painting/color > > > photo, suitable for framing of St Peter the Apostle Church at Thanet the > > > home church of the Sacketts. Does anyone have such an item? Patty B > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== SACKETT Mailing List ==== > > > > GEN-NEWBIE-L: No question is too elementary and the atmosphere is > > relaxed > > > & friendly. GEN-NEWBIE-D: This list is the digest mode for GEN-NEWBIE-L. > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > > > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== SACKETT Mailing List ==== > > > Visit the SACKETT-L Web Page at > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~sidersn/sackett > > > > > > ============================== > > > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > ==== SACKETT Mailing List ==== > > If you haven't already, please send in your introduction to the list. > > For examples, visit > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~sidersn/sackett > > > > ============================== > > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > ==== SACKETT Mailing List ==== > RootsWeb blocks attachments. So sharing photos is not possible through > the list; send off-list individually. If you have a text file you wish to share, save it as text and insert the text into your message. > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237

Hello to you Sackets out there. Gosh I didn't know just how many existed. And to think I with the help of my Sackett husband seem to be swelling the numbers. Our six children seem to be adding to the Sacketts, with some enthusiasm. I am researching my husband's family. Which we understand started the journey over on the Mayflower. Well that's what my research tells me. As a writer I find the whole story and journey so exciting. BUT is also very tiresome, not being able to trace simple links. When in the USA you have more freedom, to paper files, than we do over here because of the data protection act. If I can help please, do contact me as I have been to the Church in Thanet . Best wishes Arabella Sackett..Nee Blake. -----Original Message----- From: pbohler [mailto:pbohler@comcast.net] Sent: 22 February 2004 21:38 To: SACKETT-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SACKETT-L] Chris, Tom and Jackie: RE: Church Me Again, There is a site with Vicki's artwork and there are two lovely watercolor renditions of the church but she wants between 69 and 89 pounds plus for them. More than I want to pay. They are at www.artbyvicki.co.uk/highstreet.jpg Thought you might want to take a peek. Patty B ----- Original Message ----- From: "pbohler" <pbohler@comcast.net> To: <SACKETT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2004 2:29 PM Subject: [SACKETT-L] Chris, Tom and Jackie: RE: Church > Chris. Tom and Jackie, Thank you for your responses. The postcard is nice as it shows the whole church but the car and light post are distracting. I'll wait to see what Tom and Jackie come up with. There is a nice drawing about 2 by 3 inches on the website http://villagetour.co.uk/church by an artist named Vicki. I was hoping for something a bit larger. Perhaps other Sackett list people would be interested in copies that could be scanned to good photographic paper for framing. Perhaps Vicki would give permission to do that. What do you all think? Patty B > > > ==== SACKETT Mailing List ==== > GEN-NEWBIE-L: No question is too elementary and the atmosphere is relaxed & friendly. GEN-NEWBIE-D: This list is the digest mode for GEN-NEWBIE-L. > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > ==== SACKETT Mailing List ==== GEN-NEWBIE-L: No question is too elementary and the atmosphere is relaxed & friendly. GEN-NEWBIE-D: This list is the digest mode for GEN-NEWBIE-L. ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237

On Sunday, February 22, 2004, at 08:12 AM, pepjo wrote: > Hi, > I will be visiting the church sometime during my upcoming trip to the > UK. I > will try to secure a good photograph or some other picture. > Jackie Pepper ________________________________________________ My Sackett line did not migrate from Ramsgate, Kent Co., England, to New York City until about 1836; while in England, they (and probably relatives) belonged to the Saint Lawrence Parish in Ramsgate. Anyone taking or getting pictures of St. Peter church in Thanet, may also wish to get pics of St. Lawrence at same time. A cousin over there wrote me that the cemetary at St. Lawrence was severely damaged by German bombs during WWII, but did not mention the church. Gordon Sackett Adams: goradams@sbcglobal.net

Me again; on the Sackett of America and the TSFA websites; I've installed links to the Thanet pictures and the Newtowne, MA pictures that Don Emmel supplied. Thurmon On Sun, 22 Feb 2004 14:46:54 -0800 Thurmon E King <thurmonking@juno.com> writes: > Patty: > > I was wondering why no one mentioned that I posted several pictures > of > the church and some of the surrounding area on my first website. > However, I discovered today that I have removed the link to the > pictures. I'll have to get them linked again. These were supplied > by > Dr. Don Emmel. The picturs can be viewed at: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~teking/sackett_docs/thanet_pics/ > thanet.html > > If the URL word wraps be sure to get all of it to "thanet.html" > > The larger images may have enough detail to be enlarged.