Hello, My understanding was Sacks originated from Saxony. Although I have read many other interesting ideas. Floyd Oster On Feb 27, 2009, at 11:47 AM, Chris Sackett wrote: > At 15:58 27/02/2009, you wrote: >> As I understand it the name Sackett is a diminutive of sack - below >> I have >> copied Ancestry.Com surname explanation > > Angie, > > There is a lot of misinformation out there! I really don't believe it > ever had anything to do with sacks. If it had, there would have been > Sacketts in just about every town and village in the country! > Instead, as we know, the clan seems to have started in one very small > area in the north-east corner of Kent. There is an article about the > name on The Sackett Family Association website at > http://sackettfamily.info/ui04.htm > > Regards, > Chris > > SACKETT is a Discussion list for Sackett/Sacket Family Genealogy. > Associated URL's for this surname: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~sidersn/sackett/ > and http://www.sackettfamily.info/ > If you need any help, email the List Admin at: [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message

Alice Sackett wrote: > Yesterday we received a form letter from M. Cohen in Texas, addressed to "Dear fellow Jew", in which he states he got our name from a telephone book. Interestingly, my husband's brother was once contacted by a Jewish person whose surname was also "Sackett" and thought my brother-in-law was also Jewish. Does anyone else have information about this connection? As far as we know, our family has always been Christian. > > SACKETT is a Discussion list for Sackett/Sacket Family Genealogy. Associated URL's for this surname: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~sidersn/sackett/ and http://www.sackettfamily.info/ > If you need any help, email the List Admin at: [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > This sounds like a rather strange letter! Form letter that suggested the writer had gotten your name from a phone book. The greeting seems peculiar too. The name Cohen as a Jewish surname generally refers to someone who is or is thought to be of priestly lineage. Conversions to Judaism are not all that common, as far as I know, but at the same time are not unheard of either. The lion's share of conversions result due to marriage into a Jewish family. Perhaps a Sackett or two has converted to Judaism.

Yesterday we received a form letter from M. Cohen in Texas, addressed to "Dear fellow Jew", in which he states he got our name from a telephone book. Interestingly, my husband's brother was once contacted by a Jewish person whose surname was also "Sackett" and thought my brother-in-law was also Jewish. Does anyone else have information about this connection? As far as we know, our family has always been Christian.

In the matter of one being Jewish depends upon whether one is talking about those who converted to Judaism, or whether they are born into a Jewish family. DNA tests show that those who are born into a Semitic family have a distinctive DNA that shows that they are Semitic and that DNA does not match any of the DNA results of Sackett males who have participated in the Sackett DNA project. However, if there are Sacketts who have converted to Judaism their DNA would possibly match the DNA of some of the other Sacketts but would not indicate that they are Semitic. Thurmon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alice Sackett" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 7:29 AM Subject: [SACKETT] Jewish relatives > Yesterday we received a form letter from M. Cohen in Texas, addressed to > "Dear fellow Jew", in which he states he got our name from a telephone > book. Interestingly, my husband's brother was once contacted by a Jewish > person whose surname was also "Sackett" and thought my brother-in-law was > also Jewish. Does anyone else have information about this connection? As > far as we know, our family has always been Christian. > > SACKETT is a Discussion list for Sackett/Sacket Family Genealogy. > Associated URL's for this surname: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~sidersn/sackett/ and > http://www.sackettfamily.info/ > If you need any help, email the List Admin at: [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Reviewing the message I just sent; I see that my fingers didn't follow my command and in the sentence below, I put HIRAM instead of NIRAM. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Thurmon King" <[email protected]> To: "SACKETT" <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 8:47 PM Subject: Re: [SACKETT] Hiram/Niram Sackett 1835-1903 > In the 1850 census his name is Niram. In the 1860 Census his name is > clearly Niram. The 1870 Census clearly has his name as Niram but the > census taker put his wife's name as Alice with daughter Catherine A. age > 3. The 1800 Census proves to be a guessing game.but the other censuses and > other sources show that his name was Hiram. <CLIPPED>

In the 1850 census his name is Niram. In the 1860 Census his name is clearly Niram. The 1870 Census clearly has his name as Niram but the census taker put his wife's name as Alice with daughter Catherine A. age 3. The 1800 Census proves to be a guessing game.but the other censuses and other sources show that his name was Hiram. Concerning his son, Buske, I believe it is Burtie. The enumeratior, Lucius Christy, wasn't consistant in dotting his "i"s and crossing his "t"s. For the "t" in Catherine; he didn't cross the "t"; unless the mark is almost blended into the line above the name. Concerning the "i"s; he didn't do the "i" in Niram, Arvile, or Hattie Burkman in the 2nd household from the top of the page. The transcription of Niram's marriage record has his name as Hiram: http://www.rootsweb.com/~mistcla2/m_records2.htm St. Clair County, Michigan Marriages: 1857-1866; Book 2 28 Sept 1865, Marine City Hiram Sackett, 30, Irving, New York Arvilla L. Bonney, 21, Marine City Ansel Clough & Lucina Clough, both of Marine City; J.B. Prichard, Minister Although the information I have for him gives his death as 1903; I have been unable to find him in the 1900 census. http://www.rootsweb.com/~nychauta/CEMETERY/Evgrn_rc.html Evergreen Lawn Cemetery, Hanover Center, Chautauqua Co., NY Sackett, Nirum Lot 44; d. Apr 4, 1903 His name is the bio for his father gives his name as Niram, Jr. and his son Burt is listed as Niram B. History of Chautauqua Co, NY From Its 1st Settlement to the Present Time By Andrew Young, 1875 Hanover; Page 423/a486 NIRAM Sackett was born October 3 I, 1797, at Stanford, Dutchess Co., NY. He was married at Washington, in that county, Sept. 30, 1824, to Catharine Thorn, who was born Dec. 19, 1806. He was commissioned by Gov. DeWitt Clinton a captain of the militia in 1822; and by Gov. Joseph C. Yates as colonel in 1824. He was called out with his regiment to attend at the reception of Gen. La Fayette at Poughkeepsie in 1824. At an early age he commenced the mercantile business at Mabbettsville, which he continued until 1829, when he removed with his father-in-law, John I. Thorn, to Chautauqua Co., and settled on Cattaraugus Flats, [now Irving.] He was elected for several terms a justice of the peace in Hanover, and was for many years an associate judge of the county courts. He died at Irving, the 22d of Oct. 1869, of disease of the heart, aged 72. In the obituary notice accompanying the announcement of his death, he is represented as " affable and courteous in his manner, decided in his convictions, a man of strict integrity and of comprehensive mind, and scrupulously just; evincing, in his judicial character, those qualities of mind and heart which made him both the able and the just judge." His principal business during his residence in the county was farming, in which he was successful; leaving his family abundantly provided for. His death was deeply lamented by his family and the community generally. Judge Niram Sackett had 6 children: 1. Jehiel, who was born Sept. 15, 1825, and was married July 3, 1863, to Laura Sackett, by whom he had 2 children: Isabella, born April 16, 1864; and Marcus, born Sept. 21, 1865. 2. John J., born April 5, 1827, and married, June 10, 1458, to Henrietta Harrison. They had 2 children: Cora, born Sept. 10, 1859; and Sarah, born Aug. 12, 1862. Mrs. Sackett died Feb. 3, 1863; and Mr. S. married, Oct. 6, 1868, Jane Watts, of North East, PA. They have a daughter, Ida T., born Nov. 20, 1873. 3. Joseph T, born March 4, 1829; married, Nov. 18, 1872, to Mrs. Sarah M. Canfield. He is a graduate of the Law School at Albany, and resides in Brooklyn. 4. Marcus, born Nov. 28, 1830; married, June 16, 1857, to Henrietta Seaman. They have a son, John S., born June 13, 1885. 5. Semzntha, born Sept. 28, 1832; married, Aug. 8, 1861, to Edward R. Stiles, Litchfield, IL and has 2 children: Charles S.: born May 12, 1862 and Gertrude, born Feb. 9, 1864. 6. Niram, Jr., born June 29, 1835; married, Sept. 28, 1865 to Arvilla L. Bonney; and has 2 children: Catharine A., born Aug. 7, 1867; and Niram B., born Nov. 12, 1872 Thurmon ----- Original Message ----- From: "MaryLou" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 1:58 PM Subject: Re: [SACKETT] Hiram/Niram Sackett 1835-1903 I believe that Niram is correct. From my info: NIRAM SACKETT Born October 31, 1797, Stanford, Dutchess CO NY, son of Jehial SACKETT (1768-1832) and Samantha KNAPP, And Grandson of Samuel SACKETT born 1747, , Rev. War Veteran, and Thankful WOOD, Niram married in Washington Co NY, Sept. 20, 1824 to Catherine THORN who was born Dec. 19, 1806. He was commissioned by Gov. DeWitt Clinton a captain of the militia, in 1822, and by Gov. Yates ,as colonel in 1824. He was called out with his regiment to attended the reception for General LaFayette, at Poughkeepsie, in 1824. At an early age he commenced the mercantile business at Mabbettsville, which he continued until 1829, when he removed with his father-in-law John I. THORN to Chautauqua Co and settled at Cattaraugus Flats, (Now Irving) He was for several terms elected a justice of the peace in Hanover, and was for many years an associate judge of the county courts. He died in Irving, October 22, 1869 , of disease of the heart. Judge Niram SACKETT had 6 children 1.) Jehiel SACKETT born Sept 15, 1825 married to Laura SACKETT, by whom he had 2 children, Isabella, 1864,Wife of Charles Wesley Stebbins, Her DAR ID Number: 79142 and Marcus, 1865 2.) John J. Sackett, born April 5, 1827, married 1858 to Henrietta HARRISON, they had 2 children, Cora, 1859, and Sarah, 1862. Mrs. Sackett died 2/3/1863 and he remarried to Jane WATTS of North East PA, they have 1 dau, Ida T. born 11/20/1873 3.) Joseph T. Sackett, born March 4, 1829, married Mrs. Sarah M. CANFIELD, resides in Brooklyn 4.) Marcus, born Nov. 28, 1830, married Henrietta SEAMAN, a son John born 6/13/1858, married 2nd, Susan Grand Girard , their daughter Greta SACKETT, Born in Brooklyn, N. Y. DAR ID Number: 96852 5.) Samantha SACKETT, born 9/28/1932, married Edward STILES, lives Litchfield Illinois, has 2 children Charles S, 1862 and Gertrude, 1864 6.) Niram Jr. Sackett, born June 29, 1835, married to Arvilla L. BONNEY, had 2 children Catherine B, born 8/7/1867 and Niram B, born 11/12/1872 ============ War of 1812 - Members of NY State Militia Niram Sackett: 1797-1869. Appointed Captian by Gov. DeWitt. ====================== submitted by Mike Sackett: Pioneers of Western New York (date unknown) Pages 106/107 Sackett Bible, published in 1859 by New York Bible Society, owned by miss Marguerite Sackett. Marriages Grand Girard, Susan M., widow of Rev S. P. Sloane, and Marcus Sackett at Winnebago, Ill Aug 21, 1777. (Evidently in error, 1877 would fit other dates). Sackett, Niram and Catherine Thorn, Sept 30, 1824 in Dutchess County Sackett, Marcus, son of Niram and Henrietta Seaman, June 16, 1867, New York City Sackett, John I, son of Niram and Catherine and Henrietta Harrison, June 10, 1858 at Irving, New York Sackett, John I m a second wife Jennie Watts Oct 10, 1868 at North East, PA Sackett, Semantha, dau of Niram and Catherine, and Edward R Stiles, Aug 8, 1861, Irving Sackett, Jehial, son of Niram and Catherine and Laura dau of Nathan Sackett, July 3, 1863 at Irving Sackett, Niram Jr, son of Niram and Catherine and Arvilla L Bonney, Sept 28, 1865 Sackett, Joseph T, son of Niram and Catherine, and Mrs SAarah M Canfield, Nov 18, 1872 at Brooklyn Births Sackett, John, Seaman, son of Marcus and Henrietta, June 3, 1858, New York City Sackett, Marguerite, dau of Marcus and Susan M. G. Nov 27, 1878, New York City Sackett, Niram, Oct 31, 1797, Stanford, Dutchess County. Sackett, Catherine Thorn, his wife, Dec 19, 1806, Dutvhess County, Their Children - Jehiel, Sept 15, 1825, John I, Apr 5, 1827, Joseph More About NIRAMSACKETT, COL:ATHERINETHORNE:IRAMSACKETTand CATHERINETHORNE: Burial: Evergreen Lawn Cem., /Hanover Center, Chautauqua Co., NY13,14 Cause of Death: heart disease14 Census: 1830, Hanover, Chautauqua Co., NY15,16 Fact 1: NYS Militia: NIRAM Sackett 1797-1869. Appointed Capt. by Gov. DeWitt16 Fact 2: 1829, Removed to Cattaraugus Flats (now Irving), Chautauqua Co., NY16 Fact 3: Born on the old Sackett homestead in Dutchess Co., NY17,18 Fact 4: Moved with his wife & 3 children to Chautauqua co, and in 1834 built the first saw mill on Cattaraugus creek at Irving.19,20 Military service: War of 1812 & Civil War21,22 Occupation: At an early age he commenced the mercantile business at Mabbettsville until 182922 Politics: Democrat22 More About C Burial: Evergreen Lawn Cem., /Hanover Center, Chautauqua Co., NY22 Census: 1880, Irving, Chautaugua Co., NY; age 73, b. NY; widow22 More About N Marriage: 30 Sep 1824, Dutchess Co., NY23,24,25 (more info avaialbe on decendents if needed) Mary Lou Sackett, DC www.backtobasicsnaturally.com ________________________________ From: Chris Sackett <[email protected]> To: Sackett Family Discussion List <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 3:35:39 PM Subject: [SACKETT] Hiram/Niram Sackett 1835-1903 The LDS FamilySearch transcript of the 1880 census for the family of Hiram/Niram Sackett is: 1880 Census; Irving, Chautauqua, New York FHL Film 1254816; NA Film T9-0816 Page 425B Hiram SACKET, Self, M, M, W, 44, NY, Farmer, NY, NY Arvile SACKET, Wife, F, M, W, 33, NY, Keeping House, NY, NY Cathrine A. SACKET, Dau, F, S, W, 18, NY, At School, NY, NY Bushe SACKET, Son, M, S, W, 7, NY, --, NY, NY Thorn SACKET, Son, M, S, W, 5, NY, --, F On looking at the original image on Ancestry, it looks to me that the following could be changed: "Hiram" is more likely "Niram". There is other data suggesting his name was Niram. On the handwriting, the "H" of "Hiram" does not look like the writer's other letter Hs (see "Hattie" and "Here" near top of page, and "Keeping House" several times). "Cathrine" should be "Catherine". Her age, 18, is more likely "10". It's most unlikely she would have been at school at age 18. If Weygant has the right date of birth, 7 Aug 1867, she would actually have been 12. "Bushe" is, I think, actually "Burtie". His full name was Niram Burt, and it would make sense for him to have been nicknamed something other than Niram if his father's name was also Niram. Arvile's age also looks more like 38 than 33, although it looks as though someone has written "33" faintly alongside the original writing of the age. If her age, 21, at marriage in Sep 1865 was right, she would have been 35 at the census date. I'd be glad of another opinion on this record if someone has access to Ancestry. Regards, Chris Sackett SACKETT is a Discussion list for Sackett/Sacket Family Genealogy. Associated URL's for this surname: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~sidersn/sackett/ and http://www.sackettfamily.info/ If you need any help, email the List Admin at: [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message SACKETT is a Discussion list for Sackett/Sacket Family Genealogy. Associated URL's for this surname: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~sidersn/sackett/ and http://www.sackettfamily.info/ If you need any help, email the List Admin at: [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The LDS FamilySearch transcript of the 1880 census for the family of Hiram/Niram Sackett is: 1880 Census; Irving, Chautauqua, New York FHL Film 1254816; NA Film T9-0816 Page 425B Hiram SACKET, Self, M, M, W, 44, NY, Farmer, NY, NY Arvile SACKET, Wife, F, M, W, 33, NY, Keeping House, NY, NY Cathrine A. SACKET, Dau, F, S, W, 18, NY, At School, NY, NY Bushe SACKET, Son, M, S, W, 7, NY, --, NY, NY Thorn SACKET, Son, M, S, W, 5, NY, --, F On looking at the original image on Ancestry, it looks to me that the following could be changed: "Hiram" is more likely "Niram". There is other data suggesting his name was Niram. On the handwriting, the "H" of "Hiram" does not look like the writer's other letter Hs (see "Hattie" and "Here" near top of page, and "Keeping House" several times). "Cathrine" should be "Catherine". Her age, 18, is more likely "10". It's most unlikely she would have been at school at age 18. If Weygant has the right date of birth, 7 Aug 1867, she would actually have been 12. "Bushe" is, I think, actually "Burtie". His full name was Niram Burt, and it would make sense for him to have been nicknamed something other than Niram if his father's name was also Niram. Arvile's age also looks more like 38 than 33, although it looks as though someone has written "33" faintly alongside the original writing of the age. If her age, 21, at marriage in Sep 1865 was right, she would have been 35 at the census date. I'd be glad of another opinion on this record if someone has access to Ancestry. Regards, Chris Sackett

Hi, Chris-- I wouldn't have taken that first letter for an N, but it definitely doesn't look like an H either. Looking at some of his other N's, as in "New York," they're very similar. If Niram is already known to be a possibility, that makes it look pretty good! I'd say "Cathrine" does have an "e" in the middle--I don't know why they left it out. "Bushe" looks like "Burke" to me. The "r" is very like all his other lower case r's--kind of tucked in at the bottom--and the next letter looks like a "k" or an "h." Maybe the census taker misunderstood "Burt" for "Burke"--they would sound alike. I think Arvile's age could be 33. The second digit doesn't look much like other 5's on the page. Look at the 73 for Catherine Sacket in the next household: that 3 is pretty well closed up. By the same reasoning, could Catherine (Niram's dau) be 13? Either way (unless she's 10), there's a pretty good gap between her and Burke/Burtie/ Bushe. Were there other children in the family that have died or left home? Don't know if this has been helpful or not! Bye-- Jean On Feb 25, 2009, at 3:35 PM, Chris Sackett wrote: > The LDS FamilySearch transcript of the 1880 census for the family of > Hiram/Niram Sackett is: > > 1880 Census; Irving, Chautauqua, New York > FHL Film 1254816; NA Film T9-0816 > Page 425B > Hiram SACKET, Self, M, M, W, 44, NY, Farmer, NY, NY > Arvile SACKET, Wife, F, M, W, 33, NY, Keeping House, NY, NY > Cathrine A. SACKET, Dau, F, S, W, 18, NY, At School, NY, NY > Bushe SACKET, Son, M, S, W, 7, NY, --, NY, NY > Thorn SACKET, Son, M, S, W, 5, NY, --, F > > On looking at the original image on Ancestry, it looks to me that the > following could be changed: > > "Hiram" is more likely "Niram". There is other data suggesting his > name was Niram. On the handwriting, the "H" of "Hiram" does not look > like the writer's other letter Hs (see "Hattie" and "Here" near top > of page, and "Keeping House" several times). > > "Cathrine" should be "Catherine". Her age, 18, is more likely "10". > It's most unlikely she would have been at school at age 18. If > Weygant has the right date of birth, 7 Aug 1867, she would actually > have been 12. > > "Bushe" is, I think, actually "Burtie". His full name was Niram Burt, > and it would make sense for him to have been nicknamed something > other than Niram if his father's name was also Niram. > > Arvile's age also looks more like 38 than 33, although it looks as > though someone has written "33" faintly alongside the original > writing of the age. If her age, 21, at marriage in Sep 1865 was > right, she would have been 35 at the census date. > > I'd be glad of another opinion on this record if someone has access > to Ancestry. > > Regards, > Chris Sackett > > > SACKETT is a Discussion list for Sackett/Sacket Family Genealogy. > Associated URL's for this surname: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~sidersn/sackett/ > and http://www.sackettfamily.info/ > If you need any help, email the List Admin at: [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message

I believe that Niram is correct.  From my info: NIRAM SACKETT Born October 31, 1797, Stanford, Dutchess CO NY, son of Jehial SACKETT (1768-1832) and Samantha KNAPP, And Grandson of Samuel SACKETT born 1747, , Rev. War Veteran, and Thankful WOOD, Niram married in Washington Co NY, Sept. 20, 1824 to Catherine THORN who was born Dec. 19, 1806. He was commissioned by Gov. DeWitt Clinton a captain of the militia, in 1822, and by Gov. Yates ,as colonel in 1824. He was called out with his regiment to attended the reception for General LaFayette, at Poughkeepsie, in 1824. At an early age he commenced the mercantile business at Mabbettsville, which he continued until 1829, when he removed with his father-in-law John I. THORN to Chautauqua Co and settled at Cattaraugus Flats, (Now Irving) He was for several terms elected a justice of the peace in Hanover, and was for many years an associate judge of the county courts. He died in Irving, October 22, 1869 , of disease of the heart. Judge Niram SACKETT had 6 children 1.) Jehiel SACKETT born Sept 15, 1825 married to Laura SACKETT, by whom he had 2 children, Isabella, 1864,Wife of Charles Wesley Stebbins, Her DAR ID Number: 79142 and Marcus, 1865 2.) John J. Sackett, born April 5, 1827, married 1858 to Henrietta HARRISON, they had 2 children, Cora, 1859, and Sarah, 1862. Mrs. Sackett died 2/3/1863 and he remarried to Jane WATTS of North East PA, they have 1 dau, Ida T. born 11/20/1873 3.) Joseph T. Sackett, born March 4, 1829, married Mrs. Sarah M. CANFIELD, resides in Brooklyn 4.) Marcus, born Nov. 28, 1830, married Henrietta SEAMAN, a son John born 6/13/1858, married 2nd, Susan Grand Girard , their daughter Greta SACKETT, Born in Brooklyn, N. Y. DAR ID Number: 96852 5.) Samantha SACKETT, born 9/28/1932, married Edward STILES, lives Litchfield Illinois, has 2 children Charles S, 1862 and Gertrude, 1864 6.) Niram Jr. Sackett, born June 29, 1835, married to Arvilla L. BONNEY, had 2 children Catherine B, born 8/7/1867 and Niram B, born 11/12/1872 ============ War of 1812 - Members of NY State Militia Niram Sackett: 1797-1869. Appointed Captian by Gov. DeWitt. ====================== submitted by Mike Sackett: Pioneers of Western New York (date unknown) Pages 106/107 Sackett Bible, published in 1859 by New York Bible Society, owned by miss Marguerite Sackett. Marriages Grand Girard, Susan M., widow of Rev S. P. Sloane, and Marcus Sackett at Winnebago, Ill Aug 21, 1777. (Evidently in error, 1877 would fit other dates). Sackett, Niram and Catherine Thorn, Sept 30, 1824 in Dutchess County Sackett, Marcus, son of Niram and Henrietta Seaman, June 16, 1867, New York City Sackett, John I, son of Niram and Catherine and Henrietta Harrison, June 10, 1858 at Irving, New York Sackett, John I m a second wife Jennie Watts Oct 10, 1868 at North East, PA Sackett, Semantha, dau of Niram and Catherine, and Edward R Stiles, Aug 8, 1861, Irving Sackett, Jehial, son of Niram and Catherine and Laura dau of Nathan Sackett, July 3, 1863 at Irving Sackett, Niram Jr, son of Niram and Catherine and Arvilla L Bonney, Sept 28, 1865 Sackett, Joseph T, son of Niram and Catherine, and Mrs SAarah M Canfield, Nov 18, 1872 at Brooklyn Births Sackett, John, Seaman, son of Marcus and Henrietta, June 3, 1858, New York City Sackett, Marguerite, dau of Marcus and Susan M. G. Nov 27, 1878, New York City Sackett, Niram, Oct 31, 1797, Stanford, Dutchess County. Sackett, Catherine Thorn, his wife, Dec 19, 1806, Dutvhess County, Their Children - Jehiel, Sept 15, 1825, John I, Apr 5, 1827, Joseph     More About NIRAMSACKETT, COL:ATHERINETHORNE:IRAMSACKETTand CATHERINETHORNE: Burial: Evergreen Lawn Cem., /Hanover Center, Chautauqua Co., NY13,14 Cause of Death: heart disease14 Census: 1830, Hanover, Chautauqua Co., NY15,16 Fact 1: NYS Militia: NIRAM Sackett 1797-1869. Appointed Capt. by Gov. DeWitt16 Fact 2: 1829, Removed to Cattaraugus Flats (now Irving), Chautauqua Co., NY16 Fact 3: Born on the old Sackett homestead in Dutchess Co., NY17,18 Fact 4: Moved with his wife & 3 children to Chautauqua co, and in 1834 built the first saw mill on Cattaraugus creek at Irving.19,20 Military service: War of 1812 & Civil War21,22 Occupation: At an early age he commenced the mercantile business at Mabbettsville until 182922 Politics: Democrat22 More About C Burial: Evergreen Lawn Cem., /Hanover Center, Chautauqua Co., NY22 Census: 1880, Irving, Chautaugua Co., NY; age 73, b. NY; widow22 More About N Marriage: 30 Sep 1824, Dutchess Co., NY23,24,25 (more info avaialbe on decendents if needed)   Mary Lou Sackett, DC www.backtobasicsnaturally.com     ________________________________ From: Chris Sackett <[email protected]> To: Sackett Family Discussion List <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 3:35:39 PM Subject: [SACKETT] Hiram/Niram Sackett 1835-1903 The LDS FamilySearch transcript of the 1880 census for the family of Hiram/Niram Sackett is: 1880 Census; Irving, Chautauqua, New York FHL Film 1254816; NA Film T9-0816 Page 425B Hiram SACKET, Self, M, M, W, 44, NY, Farmer, NY, NY Arvile SACKET, Wife, F, M, W, 33, NY, Keeping House, NY, NY Cathrine A. SACKET, Dau, F, S, W, 18, NY, At School, NY, NY Bushe SACKET, Son, M, S, W, 7, NY, --, NY, NY Thorn SACKET, Son, M, S, W, 5, NY, --, F On looking at the original image on Ancestry, it looks to me that the following could be changed: "Hiram" is more likely "Niram". There is other data suggesting his name was Niram. On the handwriting, the "H" of "Hiram" does not look like the writer's other letter Hs (see "Hattie" and "Here" near top of page, and "Keeping House" several times). "Cathrine" should be "Catherine". Her age, 18, is more likely "10". It's most unlikely she would have been at school at age 18. If Weygant has the right date of birth, 7 Aug 1867, she would actually have been 12. "Bushe" is, I think, actually "Burtie". His full name was Niram Burt, and it would make sense for him to have been nicknamed something other than Niram if his father's name was also Niram. Arvile's age also looks more like 38 than 33, although it looks as though someone has written "33" faintly alongside the original writing of the age. If her age, 21, at marriage in Sep 1865 was right, she would have been 35 at the census date. I'd be glad of another opinion on this record if someone has access to Ancestry. Regards, Chris Sackett SACKETT is a Discussion list for Sackett/Sacket Family Genealogy.  Associated URL's for this surname:  http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~sidersn/sackett/ and http://www.sackettfamily.info/ If you need any help, email the List Admin at: [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

At 23:27 24/02/2009, you wrote: >Hi There, > >Who do I address to upload a picture to the SACKETT site ?. > >Thank you, >Kathy James Kathy, Please send your picture to me by email and I will add it to The Sackett Family Association website. Anyone else with pictures for the website, please let me know. Regards, Chris Sackett TSFA Webmaster

Hi There,   Who do I address to upload a picture to the SACKETT site ?.   Thank you, Kathy James    

At 01:09 16/02/2009, you wrote: >Hi, I am looking for information about who my relative Mary Holmes >(Sackett) married. I have very little information to work with. Her >father,Morgan Holmes, 2 half brothers and 2 of her brother-in-laws >served in the civil war. The relative that gave me this info would >be in her 90's if she were alive today. Unfortunately, she did not >give the names of the husbands or wives of Morgan Holmes's >children(including his daughter, Mary Holmes Sackett) or any >birthdates/place of birth. >I'm hoping someone will have some info to help me solve the mystery >of Mr. Sackett, Mary's husband. >My email address: >[email protected] >Thank-you for any info. >Lorelei Gordon Lorelei, This would be Charles Henry Sackett. See http://johnlisle.org/sackett/tng/getperson.php?personID=I28523&tree=sackett_main Regards, Chris Sackett

Hi, I am looking for information about who my relative Mary Holmes (Sackett) married. I have very little information to work with. Her father,Morgan Holmes, 2 half brothers and 2 of her brother-in-laws served in the civil war. The relative that gave me this info would be in her 90's if she were alive today. Unfortunately, she did not give the names of the husbands or wives of Morgan Holmes's children(including his daughter, Mary Holmes Sackett) or any birthdates/place of birth. I'm hoping someone will have some info to help me solve the mystery of Mr. Sackett, Mary's husband. My email address: [email protected] Thank-you for any info. Lorelei Gordon

Dave,   Let me guess you are out of the office until February 23rd.   I recieved a repeated email of this today at least 20 times over. LOL   No harm done.   Kathy --- On Sat, 2/14/09, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: From: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: [SACKETT] We are out of the office until February 23rd To: [email protected] Date: Saturday, February 14, 2009, 7:57 AM We are out of the office until February 23rd. We apologise for any inconvenience and will answer all emails on our return. Best regards Dave Roberts SACKETT is a Discussion list for Sackett/Sacket Family Genealogy. Associated URL's for this surname: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~sidersn/sackett/ and http://www.sackettfamily.info/ If you need any help, email the List Admin at: [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Everyone, First, I have to admit that I have not thoroughly read the postings regarding the Native American cross in the Sackett tree, as I am embroiled in income tax season. I will save the postings and will try to go through them as soon as I can. A few years ago I did try to research such a claim, since I found some correspondence while researching Samantha Sackett ( who married Gideon Cro(w)foot) regarding Native American artifacts. The Cro(w)foots lived in or near the fort which is now Vernon, Vermont and under the Connecticut River as part of Vermont Yankee. The boundary lines of the states changed a few times over the course of history. When it was built it was part of Massachusetts, but later was within the New Hampshire boundaries, and still later Vermont. There were references to Indian attacks and the burning down of the fort, which was later re-built. I believe I made photocopies of the book and will check as soon as I can. I think I gave Thurmon the reference, since a Stephen Cro(w)foot was mentioned as being one of the original fort's builders. The book was part of a Vermont History series and was available through Inter Library Loan. I am sorry I do not have complete details at my fingertips at the moment, but I wanted to add my 2 cents to the thread, before it became stale. Cindy Cairns Vermont > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 08:30:11 -0500 > From: Fred Sackett <[email protected]> > Subject: [SACKETT] More Sackett Indian Stories > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed > > http://www.web-access.net/~hdo/features/camp.html > > http://www.forttours.com/pages/tocroberts.asp > > http://www.accessmylibrary.com/coms2/summary_0286-5817925_ITM > > http://www.usgwarchives.net/pa/1pa/1picts/frontierforts/ffenndx2.html > > http://www.walterbright.com/AmericanHistory/index.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 16:15:21 -0500 > From: Mike Fisher <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [SACKETT] Indian Chief Sackett > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > [email protected] wrote: >> I'm not sure if these sites have been found or not as I have just started >> my >> Sackett research but I thought some of you might be interested. Sally >> >> >> _http://files.usgwarchives.org/nh/sullivan/history/charlestown/1746/dead.txt_ >> (http://files.usgwarchives.org/nh/sullivan/history/charlestown/1746/dead.txt) >> >> >> >> _John Sackett of New Haven, CT. - pafg04.htm - Generated by Personal >> Ancestral File_ >> (http://freepages.books.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~teking/john-2/pafg04.htm) >> **************The year's hottest artists on the red carpet at the Grammy >> Awards. AOL Music takes you there. >> (http://music.aol.com/grammys?ncid=emlcntusmusi00000002) >> >> SACKETT is a Discussion list for Sackett/Sacket Family Genealogy. >> Associated URL's for this surname: >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~sidersn/sackett/ and >> http://www.sackettfamily.info/ >> If you need any help, email the List Admin at: [email protected] >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > I have been reading these posts about Chief Sackett with some interest. > I wish I had time to read them in more depth right now, but the number > of irons in the fire sort of prevents it! Now, I do not wish to rain on > everyone's picnic...but (gulp that word sticks in the craw) I would like > to play devil's advocate for a moment. I am wondering how much of the > data on Chief Sackett comes from "hard" sources (tax roles, census, > other counts, wills, court cases, treaties, land purchases) and how much > is anecdotal. I have not gone back through and noted where the bulk of > the evidence lies. My first reaction, when I hear folks talk about > indian blood they have, is to take a skeptical stance. I have my > reasons for this...the main reason is that the information is often > anecdotal, passed down from generation to generation. I have heard it > from both sides of my family tree, dad and mom's side, but have yet to > find proof of a single drop of indian blood in my tree! Indeed, I have > not found anyone who claims to have indian blood that I have done > personal research for, for whom records have surfaced that show this to > be the case. I am reminded of an article I read on the subject...about > a family who told their paid genealogist that they were descended from > Pocahontas. Turned out that family histories got crossed and garbled > someplace along the lines and the "Pocahontas" from which the family had > come forth was not the indian of lore, but rather the county by that > name in what is now West Virginia! So I am wondering...what do we know > from hard record about Chief Sackett, what is from family or local lore, > and what can we know about him and with what degree of certainty? > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 22:55:06 +0000 (UTC) > From: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [SACKETT] Indian Chief Sackett > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: > <[email protected].mail.comcast.net> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > Sally, while we wouldn't expect to find much documentation on the Chief's > side of things, we do have accounts recorded in various Town Histories > regarding abductions and about this one in particular. If I recall > correctly, this abducted daughter did return but was unable or unwilling > to stay with her white family. This would at least tend to give some > credibility to the stories. > Tom > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mike Fisher" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 4:15:21 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern > Subject: Re: [SACKETT] Indian Chief Sackett > > [email protected] wrote: >> I'm not sure if these sites have been found or not as I have just started >> my >> Sackett research but I thought some of you might be interested. Sally >> >> >> _http://files.usgwarchives.org/nh/sullivan/history/charlestown/1746/dead.txt_ >> (http://files.usgwarchives.org/nh/sullivan/history/charlestown/1746/dead.txt) >> >> >> >> _John Sackett of New Haven, CT. - pafg04.htm - Generated by Personal >> Ancestral File_ >> (http://freepages.books.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~teking/john-2/pafg04.htm) >> **************The year's hottest artists on the red carpet at the Grammy >> Awards. AOL Music takes you there. >> (http://music.aol.com/grammys?ncid=emlcntusmusi00000002) >> >> SACKETT is a Discussion list for Sackett/Sacket Family Genealogy. >> Associated URL's for this surname: >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~sidersn/sackett/ and >> http://www.sackettfamily.info/ >> If you need any help, email the List Admin at: [email protected] >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > I have been reading these posts about Chief Sackett with some interest. > I wish I had time to read them in more depth right now, but the number > of irons in the fire sort of prevents it! Now, I do not wish to rain on > everyone's picnic...but (gulp that word sticks in the craw) I would like > to play devil's advocate for a moment. I am wondering how much of the > data on Chief Sackett comes from "hard" sources (tax roles, census, > other counts, wills, court cases, treaties, land purchases) and how much > is anecdotal. I have not gone back through and noted where the bulk of > the evidence lies. My first reaction, when I hear folks talk about > indian blood they have, is to take a skeptical stance. I have my > reasons for this...the main reason is that the information is often > anecdotal, passed down from generation to generation. I have heard it > from both sides of my family tree, dad and mom's side, but have yet to > find proof of a single drop of indian blood in my tree! Indeed, I have > not found anyone who claims to have indian blood that I have done > personal research for, for whom records have surfaced that show this to > be the case. I am reminded of an article I read on the subject...about > a family who told their paid genealogist that they were descended from > Pocahontas. Turned out that family histories got crossed and garbled > someplace along the lines and the "Pocahontas" from which the family had > come forth was not the indian of lore, but rather the county by that > name in what is now West Virginia! So I am wondering...what do we know > from hard record about Chief Sackett, what is from family or local lore, > and what can we know about him and with what degree of certainty? > > SACKETT is a Discussion list for Sackett/Sacket Family Genealogy. > Associated URL's for this surname: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~sidersn/sackett/ and > http://www.sackettfamily.info/ > If you need any help, email the List Admin at: [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 15:45:33 +1100 > From: "phythian" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [SACKETT] England Bound > To: <[email protected]>, <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Hi Brian, > Could I also take you up on that offer. > My mother and I are travelling to England in April and making Margate our > first point of call. We will be there Tuesday April 21 leaving again on > Friday April 24 to go to my aunts place. We have already corresponded with > Pat Cole (I think - she's from the historical society - my mother has the > correspondence) and have received a letter, a photo and an invitation to > visit from the current owners of Northwood Farmhouse where our ancestor > Jeremiah Sackett lived for some time. We are hoping to visit cemeteries at > St Peters, St Lawrence(where my mother went to boarding school), St John > and > Birchington to find our predecessors. Have booked accommodation at the > Florence Court Hotel. > > Any help with suggestions or how best to locate the specific gravestones > we > are looking for would be most helpful. > > Sheila Phythian (Tasmania, Australia) > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 10:04 PM > Subject: Re: [SACKETT] England Bound > > >> HI Sue >> As a Sackett family member and as a member of the 2008 reunion(part >> time) i would be happy to take you on a tour"retrace the footsteps" of >> that reunion. >> I live in Margate which is only about 2 miles from st peters so if >> your schedule fetches you to thanet it would be no problem to meet up. >> Regards >> Brian >> >>>----Original Message---- >>>From: [email protected] >>>Date: 11/02/2009 2:36 >>>To: <[email protected]> >>>Subj: [SACKETT] England Bound >>> >>>I am back on this list after being MIA for a while. Just made >> reservations >>>for my next trip to the UK and I have a couple of days on the >> schedule >>>(4/6-4/8) in and around Thanet. Any suggestions would be greatly >> appreciated. >>> >>>Sue Sackett >>> >>> >>>**************The year's hottest artists on the red carpet at the >> Grammy >>>Awards. AOL Music takes you there. >>>(http://music.aol.com/grammys?ncid=emlcntusmusi00000002) >>> >>>SACKETT is a Discussion list for Sackett/Sacket Family Genealogy. >> Associated URL's for this surname: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb. >> com/~sidersn/sackett/ and http://www.sackettfamily.info/ >>>If you need any help, email the List Admin at: [email protected] >>>------------------------------- >>>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SACKETT- >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in >> the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Save money with Tiscali Money's tips - http://www.tiscali.co.uk/money >> ____________________________________________________________ >> >> >> SACKETT is a Discussion list for Sackett/Sacket Family Genealogy. >> Associated URL's for this surname: >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~sidersn/sackett/ and >> http://www.sackettfamily.info/ >> If you need any help, email the List Admin at: [email protected] >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 23:18:09 -0800 (PST) > From: Kathryn James <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [SACKETT] SACKETT ON GENWEB LIST > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > ? > Hi, > There seems to be a list compiled of families Decendant Charts of Virginia > and West Virginia. > ? > There are 2 SACKETTS listed, a Jess SACKETT and Ms SACKETT. > ? > We maybe able to use this for other surnames in our families. > ? > ? > The WDC GenWeb Project > Linked Descendant Charts of Virginia and West Virginia Families and > Their ancestors where ever they came from - Their descendants where ever > they went > covering most all of the United States and some International areas > ? > ? > World Descendant Charts Genealogy Web Project. > ? > ? > Kathy James > > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the SACKETT list administrator, send an email to > [email protected] > > To post a message to the SACKETT mailing list, send an email to > [email protected] > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of SACKETT Digest, Vol 4, Issue 23 > ************************************** >

We are out of the office until February 23rd. We apologise for any inconvenience and will answer all emails on our return. Best regards Dave Roberts

We are out of the office until February 23rd. We apologise for any inconvenience and will answer all emails on our return. Best regards Dave Roberts

We are out of the office until February 23rd. We apologise for any inconvenience and will answer all emails on our return. Best regards Dave Roberts

We are out of the office until February 23rd. We apologise for any inconvenience and will answer all emails on our return. Best regards Dave Roberts

We are out of the office until February 23rd. We apologise for any inconvenience and will answer all emails on our return. Best regards Dave Roberts