Recent mention has been made of Frank Colyer Sackett in India. The Church in Hythe, Kent wrote about some of the more well known Sacketts that came from their district and said of Frank: This outstanding Methodist missionary was the youngest son of Mr Jeremiah Sackett. He served in the old Hyderabad District of South India from 1901 - 1945 and for much of that time was the close colleague of the Rev Charles Posnett. He died in 1953. Sheila Phythian

<<Elijah sold was possibly more familial than personally his. Perhaps after selling the Fannett township property, Joseph received his share of the proceeds and bought the extra acreage in Warrior's Mark Township, Huntingdon County, where he lived.>> the reason I think the property may have been more familial is that we know that all three brothers: Elijah, Joseph, and Azariah were in Fannett Township, Franklin County because that's where their militia unit was from and also they were signers on two documents in 1778 and 1779 which shows that they were in Fannett Township at that time. Patti

Thurmon, That does look more likely to me. As I said, I do think that Joseph being a son is a very good possibility, but he likely didn't make it out of childhood. I also wanted to clarify something in what I originally wrote. When I said that Azariah had 200 acres of property that he hadn't had previously, what I wasn't clear about was that his father Joseph had had 200 acres of property. So no one had that 200 acres assessed between 1820 and 1822. Then in 1823, it shows up on Azariah's assessment. And then in he only has 100 acres in 1824. Brother David does not appear on the tax rolls after 1821, and so my supposition is that half the property was sold and the proceeds given to David as his share before he moved on, or it was just given to David and he sold his half and moved on. the other interesting thing regarding taxes and property is that father Joseph had no real estate assessed until 1808 when he had 80 acres. In 1813, that jumped up to 200 acres. In 1812, Joseph's brother Elijah sold his property in Fannet Township, Franklin County, PA (see transcription here: http://hobbits8.net/getperson.php?personID=I737&tree=PLH ) and that jump in the size of the property for Joseph the year after makes me think that the land that Elijah sold was possibly more familial than personally his. Perhaps after selling the Fannett township property, Joseph received his share of the proceeds and bought the extra acreage in Warrior's Mark Township, Huntingdon County, where he lived. ALSO notice, who witnessed the deed in 1812! You can't tell how I typed that originally, because the formatting on the web changed it, but Elijah and Catharine Sackett were the grantors who signed and Ann Sackett and Jas. Morrison were the witnesses. So there is Ann-- perhaps the same Ann who I have proposed as brother Joseph's wife? The weird thing about all these property deals is that I have been unable to find deeds for all transactions except this one of Elijah's. I've only found another property of 35 acres that Azariah sold to Eliza and John Lee in Centre County, which is NOT in the same area for the property which was much larger he was taxed on in Mifflin County in 1790-1792 (some part of Mifflin went into Centre before 1800, but the area in which they were taxed on does not appear to be the same area that went into Centre). I have looked at Mifflin, Huntingdon, Cumberland, Franklin, and Bedford county deed indexes. Patti On Mar 2, 2009, at 3:02 PM, Thurmon King wrote: > Hi Patti, > > That is quite a bit of detective work !! > > To this point the only source I know of for Isaac Anson Sackett > being a son > of Joseph Sackett of Huntingdon Co. PA is Weygant's book. The > research you > and Lynn have done has shown that Wygant was in error about Thomas > Sackett, > m, Sarah Haywood being a son of Simon Sackett of Haywood, NJ. And, > thus far, > we have been unable to determine who the parents of Thomas were. > > Concerning Isaac Anson Sackett, he first appears in the census in the > 1820 Census; Harpersfield, Delaware Co., NY > Issac A. Sackett; 300 010 - 200 10 > > With 5 children under 10, it would appear that he had been married > for at > least 5-10 years. I did not find an Isaac Sackett in the 1810 census > so he > must have been in another household, or missed, at that time. > However, he > remained in Delaware County until his death in 1852. > > Using 1785 as his year of birth; he would have been about 35 in 1820 > and > about 25 in 1810. He would have been age 16-26 in the 1810 census > and 10-16 > in 1800. If he was born in Connecticut and, if he was in a household > in > Connecticut in 1810, we are limited in the possibilities. > > However, there is something interesting in Jacobus; "Families of > Ancient New > Haven; Vol. VII; Pages 1584-5. Jacobus disagrees with Weygant's > construction > of the Sackett family of New Haven: > > Weygant has > #18-Jonathan Sackett, son of John and Agnes Tinkham Sackett, m. > Hannah _____ > Children > 74. Jonathan Sackett, m. Ruth Hotchkiss > 75. Richard Sackett, d. in year 1746, m, Margery L. Sleade > 76. Hannah Sackett > 77. John Sackett, m, Hannah Smith > 78. Joseph Sackett. > > Jacobus has: > p. 1584 > Fam. 2. John and Hannah (Smith) Sackett: > Children: > 1. John, b 31 Aug 1722, NHV; died single person > 2. Mary, b. 5 Oct 1724, NHV; d. s. p. > 3 Hannah, b. c. 1726, bp (adult) 30 Aug 1761 NHC1, d. s. p. 12 Mar > 1804 ae > 80 CownH, 14 Mar. age 79 NHC1; Census (NH) 0-0-1 > 4. Jonathan, d. 1798, Census (Wd) 1-0-1 m. > > p. 1585 > i Sarah, b. c. 1767, d 6 Sep 1851 ae 84 (St. Peter's Oxf.); m. > Reugen > Bunnjell. > ii John; m. (1) Sarah da. Phineas & Mary (Johnson) Terrill, b. > c. 1773, > d. 12 Jan 1784 ae. 21 BT1; m (2) Mary sa. James & Mary (Clark) > Wheeler, wid. > Samuel Briscoe, b. 4 Feb 1768 DV, d. 11 Sep 854 ae. 80 BV. > iii Phebe; m. Samuel Sawyer, Jr.; res, Cornwall 1805 > iv William, b d. 1775, d 4 Feb 1858 ae. 83 BV. > v Joseph; res Fairfield, N. Y., 1806 > vi David; res. Fairfield, N. Y., 1812 > vii ISAAC; res. HARPERSFIELD, N. Y., 1806 [This would be Isaac A. > Sackett of the 1820 census.] > Jonathan had a nat. child by Mary Ford, b 1766 > > 5. Mary, b c. 1740, d 9 Apr 1804 ae. 54 NHC1 > 6. Jemima, b. c. 1743, bp (adult) 9 Sep 1789 NHC1, d. s. p. 6 Nov > 1789 ae 46 > NHC1. > > [NOTE: Jacobus does not include #75-Capt Ricahrd Sackett as a son of > Jonathan Sackett. And there are other differences from Weygant.] > > Thurmon > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Patti Hobbs" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2009 9:48 PM > Subject: [SACKETT] Sacketts in Huntingdon County, PA > > >> This probably isn't of interest to anyone else, except for the >> website, Chris. >> >> I have done a close comparison of the 1790 and 1800 censuses for >> Joseph Sackett 283.6N.7 and have also looked at the tax rolls for >> 1798-1833 for Warrior's Mark, PA. >> >> I do not find any evidence for two of the children listed there: >> Joseph Sackett and Isaac Anson Sackett. Do we have some source other >> than Weygant for them? >> >> I can see that joseph might possible have died in childhood, but if >> Isaac lived into adulthood, he never appeared on the tax rolls and >> there aren't enough children's spaces in the censuses to accomodate >> him. >> >> My basis for the relative places of the children are based on the >> appearances in the tax rolls: >> >> David is the oldest son (appears in the 1805 tax roll as a freeman-- >> Freemen in Pennsylvania are unmarried men age 21 and over.) He >> probably married in 1808 since he is no longer listed as a freeman in >> 1809. >> Azariah is the second-- he appears in the 1806 tax roll as a freeman. >> He is a freeman also for the 1807 tax, but is no longer a freeman for >> the 1808 tax indicating he was married in 1807 (before 22 December). >> George is the third son, although likely younger than daughter Nancy. >> He is listed as a freeman in 1810 and that's the only year he appears >> on the tax rolls. >> >> >> Father Joseph appears on the tax rolls for the last time in 1819. >> The >> assessment done for 1820 (which was taken on 3 January 1820) doesn't >> list him. >> Azariah who has not had property up to this point, is assessed for >> 200 >> acres in 1823. >> >> The 1790 census for this family only shows one son and one daughter. >> There ought to be two with both David and Azariah. The 1800 census >> in >> Warrior's Mark, Huntingdon County, PA shows the family perfectly with >> David, Azariah, Nancy, and George, but certainly no room for any >> other >> children. I know that sometimes children can be in other places, but >> it seems weird that in two censuses there would be no accounting for >> those two other children (Joseph and Isaac). They both could have >> died, but we know that isaac apparently did not since he has >> descendants. >> >> >> Some of this I already knew, but tonight I stumbled upon a Sackett >> appearing in the census I had not seen before. >> http://content.ancestry.com/Browse/view.aspx?dbid=7734&path=Pennsylvania.Huntington.Warriorsmark.2 >> >> to me this Ann Sacket looks like she would be Joseph's wife. She's >> the right age. She's appearing at the right time since she would have >> been recently widowed. And she has a female living in the household >> of >> the right age range to be Nancy. >> >> >> I found some court records which I will report on later. In about >> 1807 or 08, David and George were brought up on charges of assault >> and >> battery. David was found guilty of biting off the end of the nose of >> Charles Coleman. George was acquitted. There were other people >> involved, too. I actually didn't stumble across this on my own. The >> wife of a descendant of Charles Coleman told me about it. I have the >> microfilm with the court record on it and will transcribe the >> information. >> >> >> Patti > > SACKETT is a Discussion list for Sackett/Sacket Family Genealogy. > Associated URL's for this surname: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~sidersn/sackett/ > and http://www.sackettfamily.info/ > If you need any help, email the List Admin at: [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message

There are some vital records on an untitled website at http://www.tnet.com.au/~quincon/ResBankDataS-Z.html Sackett, Alma Beatrice, Married, 24-Sep-17, Tharesa, Bengal Sackett, Bertram Edward, Married, 26-Jan-10, Allahabad, Bengal Sackett, Charles, Died, 1902, Bengal Sackett, Charles, Died, 1902, Bengal Sackett, Frank Colyer, Married, 04-Aug-05, Colaba, Bombay Sackett, John, Died, 1904, Bengal Sackett, Lyman B, Died, 1876, Bengal Sackett, Lyman Beecher, Married, 28-May-1867, New Town, Madras Sackett, Mildred, Married, 12-Oct-1896, Benares (or Renara), Bengal This adds exact marriage dates for Lyman Beecher Sackett and for Bertram Edward Sackett, and a location for the LBS marriage. Chris Sackett

At 22:57 02/03/2009, you wrote: >Chris, Peter, and fellow cyber cousins: >Although someone else may beat me to this, I thought I would just >post the information that the name Lyman Beecher (1775-1863) is >famous in the United States as the name of the father of Harriet Beecher Stowe. >... Wendy, Well spotted! The parents of our Lyman Beecher Sackett must have been followers, or even acquaintances, of the original. Our LBS married in India between 1866 & 1870. If this was as a young man, he would have been born in say 1845. I don't see any Lymans in our database that would fit, so I think we're looking for someone so far undiscovered. No Lymans appear in the UK births index, which started in 1837. Lyman may have been born in India, but it would seem more likely that he was born in the US into a God-fearing family who were fans of Lyman Beecher. It may be conjectured that he went to India as a missionary. Regards, Chris

Chris Yes, my grandfather was probably born in India because I don't qualify for a full British passport (I'm just a British Subject) since neither my parents or grandparents were born in England (my grandfather on my mother's side was Danish). And I've never heard a mention within the family that we have any connection with America, but lots about 'being English' (although we were Anglo-Indian by then). Peter In a message dated 01/03/2009 23:10:04 GMT Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Peter Sackett wrote: > Chris Thanks for this lead. I see that this online site has only > about 10% of the Indian records available at the British Library, > although more info. will be added soon, so maybe I will need to > make a visit there to get much further. Even so, I've discovered > my grandfather, who is the Bertram Edward Sackett you refer to > below, and 4 of his children (my uncles and aunts) - Dennis, > Dulcie, Ivan, and Mavis. Peter, Thanks for confirming the identity of your grandfather, Bertram Edward Sackett. Based on the birth dates of his children, he would have been born in about 1885. I do not find a birth record for him in the GRO records in England, so it appears likely that he was also born in India. I was interested to note that the "Aldridge" name in Dennis George Aldridge Sackett, b. in about 1910, also appears in the marriage of Lyman Beecher Sackett and Caroline Lydia Aldridge sometime between 1866 and 1870. Might be a clue? I have no records anywhere in the UK of the name "Lyman" - just does not sound like a British name. There were however quite a few Lymans in the US. Do you think it at all possible that your Indian Sacketts got there by way of the US? Although I have not yet posted a sketch of Rev Frank Colyer Sackett he is well known to us and is close to my Sackett line. His father Jeremiah is at http://www.sackettfamily.info/p13582.htm and there is also a picture of Frank Colyer on that page. As far as I know, you would not be connected to Frank Colyer's line. Regards, Chris SACKETT is a Discussion list for Sackett/Sacket Family Genealogy. Associated URL's for this surname: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~sidersn/sackett/ and http://www.sackettfamily.info/ If you need any help, email the List Admin at: [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks for this Chris. Further down the list is the full name of my grandmother, so we're making progress. Wordsworth Masie Millicent Mary Married 26-Jan-10 Allahabad Bengal Peter In a message dated 03/03/2009 08:21:04 GMT Standard Time, [email protected] writes: There are some vital records on an untitled website at http://www.tnet.com.au/~quincon/ResBankDataS-Z.html Sackett, Alma Beatrice, Married, 24-Sep-17, Tharesa, Bengal Sackett, Bertram Edward, Married, 26-Jan-10, Allahabad, Bengal Sackett, Charles, Died, 1902, Bengal Sackett, Charles, Died, 1902, Bengal Sackett, Frank Colyer, Married, 04-Aug-05, Colaba, Bombay Sackett, John, Died, 1904, Bengal Sackett, Lyman B, Died, 1876, Bengal Sackett, Lyman Beecher, Married, 28-May-1867, New Town, Madras Sackett, Mildred, Married, 12-Oct-1896, Benares (or Renara), Bengal This adds exact marriage dates for Lyman Beecher Sackett and for Bertram Edward Sackett, and a location for the LBS marriage. Chris Sackett SACKETT is a Discussion list for Sackett/Sacket Family Genealogy. Associated URL's for this surname: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~sidersn/sackett/ and http://www.sackettfamily.info/ If you need any help, email the List Admin at: [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Chris, Peter, and fellow cyber cousins: Although someone else may beat me to this, I thought I would just post the information that the name Lyman Beecher (1775-1863) is famous in the United States as the name of the father of Harriet Beecher Stowe. A graduate of Yale Divinity School, Beecher was ordained as a Presbyterian clergyman and moved to Cincinnati, Ohio, where he served as the first president of Lane Theological Seminary. His daughter's antislavery views were shaped by the debates over slavery that occurred on the campus of the seminary during his tenure in the 1830s. You can see more about his background at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lyman_Beecher On Sunday, March 01, 2009, at 03:09PM, "Chris Sackett" <[email protected]> wrote: >Peter Sackett wrote: > >> Chris Thanks for this lead. I see that this online site has only >> about 10% of the Indian records available at the British Library, >> although more info. will be added soon, so maybe I will need to >> make a visit there to get much further. Even so, I've discovered >> my grandfather, who is the Bertram Edward Sackett you refer to >> below, and 4 of his children (my uncles and aunts) - Dennis, >> Dulcie, Ivan, and Mavis. > >Peter, > >Thanks for confirming the identity of your grandfather, Bertram >Edward Sackett. Based on the birth dates of his children, he would >have been born in about 1885. I do not find a birth record for him in >the GRO records in England, so it appears likely that he was also >born in India. I was interested to note that the "Aldridge" name in >Dennis George Aldridge Sackett, b. in about 1910, also appears in the >marriage of Lyman Beecher Sackett and Caroline Lydia Aldridge >sometime between 1866 and 1870. Might be a clue? I have no records >anywhere in the UK of the name "Lyman" - just does not sound like a >British name. There were however quite a few Lymans in the US. Do you >think it at all possible that your Indian Sacketts got there by way of the US? > >Although I have not yet posted a sketch of Rev Frank Colyer Sackett >he is well known to us and is close to my Sackett line. His father >Jeremiah is at http://www.sackettfamily.info/p13582.htm and there is >also a picture of Frank Colyer on that page. As far as I know, you >would not be connected to Frank Colyer's line. > >Regards, >Chris > >SACKETT is a Discussion list for Sackett/Sacket Family Genealogy. Associated URL's for this surname: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~sidersn/sackett/ and http://www.sackettfamily.info/ >If you need any help, email the List Admin at: [email protected] >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Hi Patti, That is quite a bit of detective work !! To this point the only source I know of for Isaac Anson Sackett being a son of Joseph Sackett of Huntingdon Co. PA is Weygant's book. The research you and Lynn have done has shown that Wygant was in error about Thomas Sackett, m, Sarah Haywood being a son of Simon Sackett of Haywood, NJ. And, thus far, we have been unable to determine who the parents of Thomas were. Concerning Isaac Anson Sackett, he first appears in the census in the 1820 Census; Harpersfield, Delaware Co., NY Issac A. Sackett; 300 010 - 200 10 With 5 children under 10, it would appear that he had been married for at least 5-10 years. I did not find an Isaac Sackett in the 1810 census so he must have been in another household, or missed, at that time. However, he remained in Delaware County until his death in 1852. Using 1785 as his year of birth; he would have been about 35 in 1820 and about 25 in 1810. He would have been age 16-26 in the 1810 census and 10-16 in 1800. If he was born in Connecticut and, if he was in a household in Connecticut in 1810, we are limited in the possibilities. However, there is something interesting in Jacobus; "Families of Ancient New Haven; Vol. VII; Pages 1584-5. Jacobus disagrees with Weygant's construction of the Sackett family of New Haven: Weygant has #18-Jonathan Sackett, son of John and Agnes Tinkham Sackett, m. Hannah _____ Children 74. Jonathan Sackett, m. Ruth Hotchkiss 75. Richard Sackett, d. in year 1746, m, Margery L. Sleade 76. Hannah Sackett 77. John Sackett, m, Hannah Smith 78. Joseph Sackett. Jacobus has: p. 1584 Fam. 2. John and Hannah (Smith) Sackett: Children: 1. John, b 31 Aug 1722, NHV; died single person 2. Mary, b. 5 Oct 1724, NHV; d. s. p. 3 Hannah, b. c. 1726, bp (adult) 30 Aug 1761 NHC1, d. s. p. 12 Mar 1804 ae 80 CownH, 14 Mar. age 79 NHC1; Census (NH) 0-0-1 4. Jonathan, d. 1798, Census (Wd) 1-0-1 m. p. 1585 i Sarah, b. c. 1767, d 6 Sep 1851 ae 84 (St. Peter's Oxf.); m. Reugen Bunnjell. ii John; m. (1) Sarah da. Phineas & Mary (Johnson) Terrill, b. c. 1773, d. 12 Jan 1784 ae. 21 BT1; m (2) Mary sa. James & Mary (Clark) Wheeler, wid. Samuel Briscoe, b. 4 Feb 1768 DV, d. 11 Sep 854 ae. 80 BV. iii Phebe; m. Samuel Sawyer, Jr.; res, Cornwall 1805 iv William, b d. 1775, d 4 Feb 1858 ae. 83 BV. v Joseph; res Fairfield, N. Y., 1806 vi David; res. Fairfield, N. Y., 1812 vii ISAAC; res. HARPERSFIELD, N. Y., 1806 [This would be Isaac A. Sackett of the 1820 census.] Jonathan had a nat. child by Mary Ford, b 1766 5. Mary, b c. 1740, d 9 Apr 1804 ae. 54 NHC1 6. Jemima, b. c. 1743, bp (adult) 9 Sep 1789 NHC1, d. s. p. 6 Nov 1789 ae 46 NHC1. [NOTE: Jacobus does not include #75-Capt Ricahrd Sackett as a son of Jonathan Sackett. And there are other differences from Weygant.] Thurmon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patti Hobbs" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2009 9:48 PM Subject: [SACKETT] Sacketts in Huntingdon County, PA > This probably isn't of interest to anyone else, except for the > website, Chris. > > I have done a close comparison of the 1790 and 1800 censuses for > Joseph Sackett 283.6N.7 and have also looked at the tax rolls for > 1798-1833 for Warrior's Mark, PA. > > I do not find any evidence for two of the children listed there: > Joseph Sackett and Isaac Anson Sackett. Do we have some source other > than Weygant for them? > > I can see that joseph might possible have died in childhood, but if > Isaac lived into adulthood, he never appeared on the tax rolls and > there aren't enough children's spaces in the censuses to accomodate him. > > My basis for the relative places of the children are based on the > appearances in the tax rolls: > > David is the oldest son (appears in the 1805 tax roll as a freeman-- > Freemen in Pennsylvania are unmarried men age 21 and over.) He > probably married in 1808 since he is no longer listed as a freeman in > 1809. > Azariah is the second-- he appears in the 1806 tax roll as a freeman. > He is a freeman also for the 1807 tax, but is no longer a freeman for > the 1808 tax indicating he was married in 1807 (before 22 December). > George is the third son, although likely younger than daughter Nancy. > He is listed as a freeman in 1810 and that's the only year he appears > on the tax rolls. > > > Father Joseph appears on the tax rolls for the last time in 1819. The > assessment done for 1820 (which was taken on 3 January 1820) doesn't > list him. > Azariah who has not had property up to this point, is assessed for 200 > acres in 1823. > > The 1790 census for this family only shows one son and one daughter. > There ought to be two with both David and Azariah. The 1800 census in > Warrior's Mark, Huntingdon County, PA shows the family perfectly with > David, Azariah, Nancy, and George, but certainly no room for any other > children. I know that sometimes children can be in other places, but > it seems weird that in two censuses there would be no accounting for > those two other children (Joseph and Isaac). They both could have > died, but we know that isaac apparently did not since he has > descendants. > > > Some of this I already knew, but tonight I stumbled upon a Sackett > appearing in the census I had not seen before. > http://content.ancestry.com/Browse/view.aspx?dbid=7734&path=Pennsylvania.Huntington.Warriorsmark.2 > > to me this Ann Sacket looks like she would be Joseph's wife. She's > the right age. She's appearing at the right time since she would have > been recently widowed. And she has a female living in the household of > the right age range to be Nancy. > > > I found some court records which I will report on later. In about > 1807 or 08, David and George were brought up on charges of assault and > battery. David was found guilty of biting off the end of the nose of > Charles Coleman. George was acquitted. There were other people > involved, too. I actually didn't stumble across this on my own. The > wife of a descendant of Charles Coleman told me about it. I have the > microfilm with the court record on it and will transcribe the > information. > > > Patti

I wrote: >... > > * Bible of Marguerite Sackett (Foley, Early Settlers of New State) ... Er, New York State. Chris

Peter Sackett wrote: > Chris Thanks for this lead. I see that this online site has only > about 10% of the Indian records available at the British Library, > although more info. will be added soon, so maybe I will need to > make a visit there to get much further. Even so, I've discovered > my grandfather, who is the Bertram Edward Sackett you refer to > below, and 4 of his children (my uncles and aunts) - Dennis, > Dulcie, Ivan, and Mavis. Peter, Thanks for confirming the identity of your grandfather, Bertram Edward Sackett. Based on the birth dates of his children, he would have been born in about 1885. I do not find a birth record for him in the GRO records in England, so it appears likely that he was also born in India. I was interested to note that the "Aldridge" name in Dennis George Aldridge Sackett, b. in about 1910, also appears in the marriage of Lyman Beecher Sackett and Caroline Lydia Aldridge sometime between 1866 and 1870. Might be a clue? I have no records anywhere in the UK of the name "Lyman" - just does not sound like a British name. There were however quite a few Lymans in the US. Do you think it at all possible that your Indian Sacketts got there by way of the US? Although I have not yet posted a sketch of Rev Frank Colyer Sackett he is well known to us and is close to my Sackett line. His father Jeremiah is at http://www.sackettfamily.info/p13582.htm and there is also a picture of Frank Colyer on that page. As far as I know, you would not be connected to Frank Colyer's line. Regards, Chris

I have updated The Sackett Family Association website www.sackettfamily.info with the following additions: * Bible of Marguerite Sackett (Foley, Early Settlers of New State) * New members 224 Hazel Easterbrook, 225 Callie Sackett, 226 Janet Scott, 227 Dave Roberts, 228 Jane Weller, 229 Robert Hughes, 230 Lisa Owens Regards, Chris Sackett TSFA Webmaster

Chris Thanks for this lead. I see that this online site has only about 10% of the Indian records available at the British Library, although more info. will be added soon, so maybe I will need to make a visit there to get much further. Even so, I've discovered my grandfather, who is the Bertram Edward Sackett you refer to below, and 4 of his children (my uncles and aunts) - Dennis, Dulcie, Ivan, and Mavis. My father and eldest child, Bertram Willliam Dudley Sackett, and his brother Trevor Sackett and sister, the youngest in the family, Audrey Sackett, do not feature on the site. I need to find out if my grandfather had any sisters or brothers, because Edward William Sackett and Frank Colyer Sackett seem to be of around the same age. Edward William shares one of his Christian names with my father and another with my grandfather, so that might be a clue. My grandfather married a Wordsworth, but although I found many Wordsworths on the site, I didn't find my grandmother, who's name I think was Alice May Wordsworth - but I need to check that. My grandfather held an important position in the Indian railways, I think in the province of Sind, so it should be possble to track him down in those railway employee records. And I found this reference in Wikipedia to a quote from Frank Colyer Sackett, the missionary, about 'ungodly lust': Madiga priestesses Coyler Sackett, an Anglican missionary, for whom possibility of women-priest was an anathema, describes the attire of Dalit priestess. Mark her bold manner, impudent stare, fine figure, and the roll of matted hair lying as an ensign of her trade upon her proud head. She was given to the service of the gods early in life, and what she does not know of immorality, bestiality, and brazen-faced evil can be learnt. Her body belongs to the God. See her in her mad frenzy as, with hair flung free, she serves the deity, face aflame with ungodly lust. Madiga priestesses were consecrated for the purpose early in their life and no restriction of propriety was imposed on them throughout their life. They were free to choose their mates but they usually settle with Baindla priests. The role these priestesses play can be illustrated in the narration of P.Y. Luke and John Carman about a ceremony of sacrifice to Goddess of cholera A winnowing fan is put on the pot and clay lid on the fan; some oil is poured onto it. and then a wick is put in and lit. A Kolpula woman sits facing this light inside the enclosure, and she stares steadily at the light. All the goddesses were thought to appear to her through that light. Outside the enclosure, the Baindla priests stand and invoke the goddess, beating their special drums. The Kolpula woman goes into trance, closes her eyes, and is taken possession of by one of the goddesses. The people outside break a coconut, kill a chicken and pour a libation of toddy on the ground where the sacrifice takes place. The women’s face is washed with toddy. Before she becomes unconscious she utters the name of the goddess In the following rite, the Kolpula woman gets into the platform near the shrine to the goddess Uradamma. A sheep is let loose as an offering to Uradamma, and priestess pierces its stomach with her sword. The entrails, liver, and the lungs are removed. The lungs and liver will be put in the Kolpula woman’s mouth and the intestines around her neck. A new sari and blouse are dipped in the blood of this sheep and then the Kolpula woman put them on. Lime, vermilion, black ash bottlu are put on her whole body, a broken pot on her head. She holds a broomstick in her left hand, a winnowing fan in her right hand, and goes through all the streets of the village, starting from the shrine of Uradamma. Her brother and the Baindla priests follow her, and the Magidas beat drum in front of her. Madigas also incorporated some of the Sanskrit heroin into their pantheon and deified them. Goddess Gonti or Gontellamma is Madiga version of Sanskrit Kunti. While in Hindu mythologies these women loyally serve their gods, in the Madiga interpretation gods serve these deities._[6]_ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madiga#endnote_3) Regards Peter In a message dated 28/02/2009 22:36:51 GMT Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Peter, The British Library have published some India Office Family History records at http://indiafamily.bl.uk/UI/. Perhaps you would take a look and see if you recognise any of the names. (Searching on Sackett should produce 25 hits). I see there was a Bertram Edward Sackett in these records, but we are looking for Bertram William Dudley Sackett. The only name I can place with our British records so far is Frank Colyer Sackett who was the missionary I mentioned to you in my email of Dec 2007. All the other names are new to me, so we are going to need to do some detective work to figure all this out. Regards, Chris At 18:14 28/02/2009, you wrote: > >Hi Chris > >That's me, Peter Sackett, Membership No. 190. > >Best regards > >Peter > >In a message dated 28/02/2009 10:42:36 GMT Standard Time, >[email protected] writes: > >Would the Sackett descendant born in India who was in contact with >this list some months ago please email me. > >Thanks, >Chris Sackett SACKETT is a Discussion list for Sackett/Sacket Family Genealogy. 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http://content.ancestry.com/Browse/view.aspx?dbid=8054&path=New+York.Delaware.Harpersfield.39&fn=Isaac%20A&ln=Sackett&st=r&pid=11638038&rc=&zp=50 Here is the ancestry.com image of Isaac A. Sackett in the 1850 census and it lists his place of birth as Connecticut. Since we know that Joseph is in the Cumberland County, PA militia during the RW and he also appears as a freeman in Cumberland in 1782. He is in Fannett township, Franklin County, PA tax rolls for 1786 and 1789. Franklin County was formed from Cumberland. A birth place given as connecticut and that coupled with the information that he doesn't fit into the censuses nor is there any coming of age shown in the tax rolls in Warrior's Mark makes it seems unlikely that he is Joseph's son. Patti

This probably isn't of interest to anyone else, except for the website, Chris. I have done a close comparison of the 1790 and 1800 censuses for Joseph Sackett 283.6N.7 and have also looked at the tax rolls for 1798-1833 for Warrior's Mark, PA. I do not find any evidence for two of the children listed there: Joseph Sackett and Isaac Anson Sackett. Do we have some source other than Weygant for them? I can see that joseph might possible have died in childhood, but if Isaac lived into adulthood, he never appeared on the tax rolls and there aren't enough children's spaces in the censuses to accomodate him. My basis for the relative places of the children are based on the appearances in the tax rolls: David is the oldest son (appears in the 1805 tax roll as a freeman-- Freemen in Pennsylvania are unmarried men age 21 and over.) He probably married in 1808 since he is no longer listed as a freeman in 1809. Azariah is the second-- he appears in the 1806 tax roll as a freeman. He is a freeman also for the 1807 tax, but is no longer a freeman for the 1808 tax indicating he was married in 1807 (before 22 December). George is the third son, although likely younger than daughter Nancy. He is listed as a freeman in 1810 and that's the only year he appears on the tax rolls. Father Joseph appears on the tax rolls for the last time in 1819. The assessment done for 1820 (which was taken on 3 January 1820) doesn't list him. Azariah who has not had property up to this point, is assessed for 200 acres in 1823. The 1790 census for this family only shows one son and one daughter. There ought to be two with both David and Azariah. The 1800 census in Warrior's Mark, Huntingdon County, PA shows the family perfectly with David, Azariah, Nancy, and George, but certainly no room for any other children. I know that sometimes children can be in other places, but it seems weird that in two censuses there would be no accounting for those two other children (Joseph and Isaac). They both could have died, but we know that isaac apparently did not since he has descendants. Some of this I already knew, but tonight I stumbled upon a Sackett appearing in the census I had not seen before. http://content.ancestry.com/Browse/view.aspx?dbid=7734&path=Pennsylvania.Huntington.Warriorsmark.2 to me this Ann Sacket looks like she would be Joseph's wife. She's the right age. She's appearing at the right time since she would have been recently widowed. And she has a female living in the household of the right age range to be Nancy. I found some court records which I will report on later. In about 1807 or 08, David and George were brought up on charges of assault and battery. David was found guilty of biting off the end of the nose of Charles Coleman. George was acquitted. There were other people involved, too. I actually didn't stumble across this on my own. The wife of a descendant of Charles Coleman told me about it. I have the microfilm with the court record on it and will transcribe the information. Patti

Peter, The British Library have published some India Office Family History records at http://indiafamily.bl.uk/UI/. Perhaps you would take a look and see if you recognise any of the names. (Searching on Sackett should produce 25 hits). I see there was a Bertram Edward Sackett in these records, but we are looking for Bertram William Dudley Sackett. The only name I can place with our British records so far is Frank Colyer Sackett who was the missionary I mentioned to you in my email of Dec 2007. All the other names are new to me, so we are going to need to do some detective work to figure all this out. Regards, Chris At 18:14 28/02/2009, you wrote: > >Hi Chris > >That's me, Peter Sackett, Membership No. 190. > >Best regards > >Peter > >In a message dated 28/02/2009 10:42:36 GMT Standard Time, >[email protected] writes: > >Would the Sackett descendant born in India who was in contact with >this list some months ago please email me. > >Thanks, >Chris Sackett

Hi Chris That's me, Peter Sackett, Membership No. 190. Best regards Peter In a message dated 28/02/2009 10:42:36 GMT Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Would the Sackett descendant born in India who was in contact with this list some months ago please email me. Thanks, Chris Sackett SACKETT is a Discussion list for Sackett/Sacket Family Genealogy. Associated URL's for this surname: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~sidersn/sackett/ and http://www.sackettfamily.info/ If you need any help, email the List Admin at: [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Would the Sackett descendant born in India who was in contact with this list some months ago please email me. Thanks, Chris Sackett

At 15:58 27/02/2009, you wrote: >As I understand it the name Sackett is a diminutive of sack - below I have >copied Ancestry.Com surname explanation Angie, There is a lot of misinformation out there! I really don't believe it ever had anything to do with sacks. If it had, there would have been Sacketts in just about every town and village in the country! Instead, as we know, the clan seems to have started in one very small area in the north-east corner of Kent. There is an article about the name on The Sackett Family Association website at http://sackettfamily.info/ui04.htm Regards, Chris

As I understand it the name Sackett is a diminutive of sack - below I have copied Ancestry.Com surname explanation English, German, and Jewish (Ashkenazic): metonymic occupational name for a maker of sacks or bags, from Old English sacc, Middle High German sack, German Sack 'sack'. Bahlow also suggests someone who carried sacks. German: topographic from Middle High German sack 'sack', 'end of a valley or area of cultivation'. Dutch: from a reduced form of the personal name Zacharias. Jewish (eastern Ashkenazic): from an acronym of the Hebrew phrase Zera Keshodim 'Seed of the Holy' (referring to martyred ancestors), or from a short form of the personal name Isaac. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Alice Sackett Sent: 27 February 2009 15:30 To: [email protected] Subject: [SACKETT] Jewish relatives Yesterday we received a form letter from M. Cohen in Texas, addressed to "Dear fellow Jew", in which he states he got our name from a telephone book. Interestingly, my husband's brother was once contacted by a Jewish person whose surname was also "Sackett" and thought my brother-in-law was also Jewish. Does anyone else have information about this connection? As far as we know, our family has always been Christian. SACKETT is a Discussion list for Sackett/Sacket Family Genealogy. Associated URL's for this surname: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~sidersn/sackett/ and http://www.sackettfamily.info/ If you need any help, email the List Admin at: [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message