This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: russell Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/oZEBAIB/5765 Message Board Post: Those of you who have hiram sr. married to all three are, according to recent dna tests, incorrect. Supposed male descendents of hiram from elizabeth thomasson does not match the male descendent from millie graham. Russell dna numbers R13 and R34 do indicate that hiram a and lewis j. are closely related and probably brothers---father unknown. Russell R45 is from a known direct male descendent of hiram and millie graham. this dna does not match R13 or R34, therefore R45 cannot be related to R13 or R34.