Hi, cousins, Following up on my message on the 1850 census, I looked at info I had copied back on March 25, 1997 on Rudds in the above 1860 census. Here are a couple interesting listings: p. 590 2607/2548 Benjamini Rudd 48 M Farmer 4000 1500 VT Leonora 41 F NH Emma 24 F NY Wm 21 M IL sch Alonzo 19 M IL sch Delia 16 F IL sch Charles 14 M IL sch Sophronia 12 F IL sch p. 599 2678/2619 Barak Rudd 45 M Farmer 5000 800 VT Livona 40 F NH Emma 24 F Help NY Wm 21 M Farmer IL Alonzo 18 M IL sch Adelia 17 F IL sch Charles 13 M IL sch Sophronia 11 F IL sch Both seem to be the same family, wouldn't you think? The Benjamin listing was taken on July 16, 1860 and the Barak listing was taken on July 18, 1860. Benjamin's listing was right after Michael Conlisk (Abigail Rudd, age 85, Lady, was in this household). Barak's listing was right after Sanford Rudd's listing. Anyway, guess Livonia's age was wrong in the 1850 census, and that Amy/Emma does belong to Barak and Livonia! Joann