Celia - Again, thanks. Think these 2 CD's are just what I am looking for at this point. I've cleared up a lot of things hanging fire so that I can start working on my loose ends that I just couldn't before. One more question. You are the one who instigated the Jonathan Rudd Family Website - right? As I know nothing about setting up one, I'm going to ask if you have to pay for this, and if so, I'm sure that several of us would like to contribute from time to time. I can't imagine my getting up anywhere from 5 A.M. on and not being able to go immediately (with my cup of coffee) and checking out the website. It makes my day!!! Thanks so much for all the pleasure you have given me since Joann told me about it at a family reunion a couple of years ago. All my best. Dot Rudd DuMond