I'm trying to remember just where the date and place for Bryant Rudd's information came from. I remember we deduced the birthdate from the 1830, 1840 censuses. As to the place they came from, Ausburn Rudd, Bryant's brother, in something (a newspaper article) that was written up on his biography mentioned Ausburn's father as John Rudd ( which fit right into the 1830 census) and gave the place of Ausburn's birth, I believe. We have been looking at the Rudd's in Virginia because we believe John Rudd came from there but also North Carolina. We haven't been able to crack this John Rudd. There appears to be 2 major Rudd lines in America: Captain Jonathan Rudd (I think) and Captain John Rudd who was a oceangoing Captain. I believe our John Rudd came from the Captain "John" and not the Jonathan. But, can't prove it. I've been gleaning a lot about these 2 lines from the Rudd list and it seems more likely our John Rudd came from the Captain John, also Tim remembers a family legend that they (the Rudd's) came on a ship, but didn't they all. I can't remember just what Tim told me about that family memory. Tim's e-mail address is: TimR@inland.net. Jo Storie