Milton and Cousins, Yes I am still in need of Erastus's birth proof. Celia wrote to me a while back and said she could not find "The Rudd Family Bible" notes. Hopefully someone someday will find something. Has anyone researched land records? I have been told that sometimes they list children. If anyone has researched Johnson's land records please let us know. I'm going to Fort Wayne in Nov. and plan on researching land records, but don't want to waste my time, if someone else has done it. ANY other suggestions as to where to look for evidence of birth?????? Thanks Nancy << Attention: Celia Nancy was asking about birth record for Erastus a while back and you suggested there was a Rudd Family Bible in existence with someone. Have you ever come across your notes about it? It would be very valuable to many of us if it became available. Since David, the first child, was the only one of Johnson and Abigail's children that was recorded in Middletown, it is very difficult to show proof of relationship for the rest of their children. Maybe someone knows where they were accepted into the Church or something of that sort. I am trying to prove the relationship for Barack but parentage was not even listed on his death certificate. Johnson's probate of estate even failed to list any children other than David. If anyone has any suggestions it would certainly be very helpful. Thanks, Milton Rudd >>