Dear Celia: Thank you so much for taking the time to type out such large portions of the book for us to read. Being one of those few "American Rudds" NOT descended from Captain John, I kind of scanned the other stuff. But, I recognize large portions of this part as being in the Rudd Family Research Assn "intro" part of the book. Her book must have been the source of much of the information for it. I know there is a photo of the Rudston monument among other "Rudd" photos. I remember her name and the book being mentioned. I'm really frustrated by being away from home and not being able to get my hands on it for another week and a half. There is one part that is different, though, I'm almost sure. Almost willing to bet a paycheck. And, that's the Lord of Meath part. I am positive the RFRA book mentions a Robert Rudd (and I remember it because my father's name was Robert) was Lord of Meath and he married the Earl of Clare's daughter, Jane. So, perhaps the Rudds were Lords of Meath for several centuries, a notion I find extremely appealing even if I'm not descended from them. I really would LIKE to be, though! It was later that 1076, though, I'm almost certain. Can't wait to look that up. More records would have been available when these Rudds were doing their research in the 1980s than was available to Ms. Rudd nearly a century ago. And, it seems like it was THIS Lord of Meath with wife Jane that went to Wales, but I may be mixing that up. I've been reading a trilogy on the original Princes of Wales, Owain, the Llywellyns, etc. and that's what led me to dig out my book just before I made this trip a week and a half ago, so Robert Rudd, Lord of Meath, is fresh in my mind. This trilogy starts in the late 12th century and extends through the entire 13th century, through the reign of Edward I (Plantagenet of William Wallace disrepute). I did a search on Lord of Meath in google.com and didn't come up with any Rudds. Nor did it go back far enough. I also searched on Earl of Clare and got piles of stuff on the de Clare family, which isn't the same thing. Since I was supposed to be researching for my company, I didn't spend a lot of time on it. I just became determined to get to Ireland for a long vacation next year. I don't know how many other Irish Rudds are on the list, but anyone got anything on the Lords of Meath? Or, having done family research in Ireland, an idea about how to research them? Time to go to bed. I think I'll try to have a past life dream about the Lords & Ladies of Meath. :-) Ellen ----- Original Message ----- From: Celia Snyder <cgsnyder@uiuc.edu> To: <RUDD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2000 9:11 PM Subject: [RUDD] Mary Amelia Rudd Book > "Records of the Rudd Family," collected and arranged by Mary Amelia > Rudd, Bristol, J. W. Arrowsmith Ltd., Quay Street, 1920 > > Chapter 1 Origin of the Name of Rudd-Tradition of the Rudston-First > Recorded Rudds-Arms of the Family > > The first point to be considered in the history of a family is the > origin of the name. There can be little doubt that the name of Rudd > is Danish in form, and if so, that its meaning is red, fierce or > bloody. The earliest mention of a Rudd as recorded in the authorised > [sic] pedigrees affixed to this work is that of William Rudd, Lord of > Meath in Ireland, in 1076. There is nothing in the name to lead us > to think it is of Irish origin, and the presence of a Danish Lord of > Meath at that period is easily accounted for. From the eighth > century onwards the Danes had managed to settle themselves on the > sea-coast much in the same way as they did in England.[1] > > Tradition, however, suggests an earlier date than 1076 as a possible > time at which a remote ancestor first formed a connection with the > British Isles. I quote from Notes and Queries the following > interesting statement:- > > "The Scandinavians planted near the graves of their great men and > warriors large upright stones called Beanta Stones, and it seems > probable that the huge monolith in Rudston Churchyard may be one of > these. An ancient saga still preserved at Copenhagen states that a > viking called Rudd died and was buried in the Yorkshire Wolds; and > that afterwards his Beanta Stone was sent over from Denmark and > erected at his place of sepulture, which ever after was called > Rudston, having before borne another name."[2] > > This interesting monument, which undoubtedly gives its names to the > village, still stands in the churchyard, appearing for fully 25 feet > above ground, and sunk, as was ascertained during excavations, an > equal distance in the ground. Its weight has been computed at > upwards of 44 tons, and the stone sparkles in the sun and is unlike > any local stone. Two large round stones were found near its base, > which may have been wagon wheels used in its transit. > > I endeavoured [sic] to confirm the tradition by searching for the > saga at Copenhagen, but Mr. Sigfus Blondal, the Sub-librarian of the > Royal library there, was unable to find one on that subject. He > thought the name Rudd sounded decidedly Scandinavian, and stated that > in Icelandic it would be Rutr, and that in the latter part of the > tenth century there was a famous Icelandic chief of that name, one of > the principal persons in the Laxadala Saga and in the first part of > the Story of the Burnt Nial. Moreover, the brother of that chief was > married to the daughter of an Irish king. > > Some people have thought that the name was of Saxon origin, and in > allusion to this possibly the crest which the Lincolnshire and > Cumberland Rudds assumed was a "rood, or cross, bottone." One does > not, however, find any connection with any Saxon part of the country > in early times. In fact, the Rudds have always been settled in the > North of England Chiefly, and Yorkshire was the home of the family > after it had left Ireland, and after the short Welsh episode of which > I shall write in due course. From Yorkshire the family spread to > Cumberland and Westmorland, to Lincolnshire and Norfolk, to > Northamptonshire and Bedfordshire, and fitfully to the south and > farther regions. > > The name is found spelt in various ways in old documents-Rud, Rudde, > Rhudde, and sometimes Rude, Rood, or even Reed; but these forms must > be received with caution, and only taken to mean Rudd when there is > ample evidence that it was so written by mistake for the real name, > as sometimes happens in parish registers, etc., in places where Rudds > are known to have existed. > > The arms which the Rudds have borne from time immemorial are: > "Azure, a lion rampant, or, a canton of the second." The crest is: > "A lion rampant, or, holding an escutcheon azure, charged with a > canton or." These arms are given in all the copies of Heralds' > Visitations in which the family appears as the ancient arms of the > Rudds of Yorkshire, from whom all the Rudds are descended. They will > not be found entered at the present Heralds' College, as I discovered > when I visited that institution in 1895. The herald whom I > interviewed, however, admitted the authenticity of the pedigree of > the Rudds of Northamptonshire which I had copied from one made at the > Heraldic Visitation of 1623 (reproduced at the commencement of this > volume), wherein the arms are given as I have stated. I suggested > that the arms had existed long before the Heralds' College, and that > therefore no grant of them was likely to be recorded, and this he was > bound to admit was so. Unfortunately, in common with numberless > families of similar antiquity, the origin of whose coat armour is > lost in far-off ages, the present Heraldic College is slow to > recognise [sic] the undoubted right of the family to them. As nearly > all the ancient records of the College were lost in the Great Fire of > London, this seems rather unreasonable. The authority of William > Camden, Clarenceux King-of-Arms, and of Augustine Vincent, Rough > Croix, suffice. > > Various branches of the family have assumed other arms at different > times, and these will be noticed in the chapters which deal with > those parts of the family. > > List of the various Arms borne by the Rudd Family. > > Rudd or Rudde (Lincolnshire and Essex): "Arg. on a canton az. six > martlets or." Crest: "A cross bottonee or." > > Rudd, Higham, Ferrers, co. Northants: "Az. a lion ramp. or, a canton > of the second." Crest: "A lion ramp. or, holding an escutcheon az. > charged with a canton or." > > Rudd or Rudde (Bishop of St. David's): "Az. a chevron between three > bells arg." Another, the chevron ermine. Crest: "An arm erect > vested az. charged with a chevron erm. holding in the hand a scroll > all ppr." > > Rudd, as borne by the Rev. Eric Rudd, or Thorn, near Doncaster: "Az. > a lion rampant or, a canton of the same, quartering gules, 3 stars > or," for Sutherland. Crest: "An arm vested az. charged with a > chevron ermine, holding in the hand a scroll all ppr." Mottoes: > Over the arms, "Pro rege et grege"; undet the shield, "In cruce > salus." > > Rudd (London, 1634): "Erm. six martlets gu. 3-2-1, a canton of the > last." Crest: "A cross croslet fitchee gu. between 2 wings erect > arg." > > Rudd: "Arg. on a chevron sable betw. 3 buglehorns gu. as many mascles or." > > Rudd (Norfolk): "Arg. 3 trefoils in fesse vert, a chief sable." > Crest: "A griffin's head coup. ppr., collared arg." > > Rudd: "Arg. on a chevron betw. 3 buglehorns stringed gu. as many lozenges or." > > Rudd: "Az. a lion rampant arg. a canton or." > > Rudd (Worcestershire): "A chevron between 3 pheons, on a chief 3 > maidens' heads, affrontee, couped below the shoulders ppr." Crest: > "A maiden's head" as in the arms. Borne by the Rev. Ed. Miles Rudd, > of Kempsey, Worcestershire, Fellow of Oriel College, Oxford, 1825.[3] > > _________________________________ > [1] Haverty, National History of Ireland. > [2] Notes and Queries, 4th Nov., 1871. > [3] Burke's General Armoury. > >