Thanks, Celia! I don't happen to have a copy of the National Geographic immediately available, but will look it up. In the meantime, some of you may be interested in the website devoted to the Phips operation, this page shows the porringer of Increase: http://www.mcc.gouv.qc.ca/pamu/champs/archeo/epaphips/alphoto/alphoto4.htm (The porringer is the bottom picture, for those who can't read French) Glenn Thibault