Hello, does anyone have information on Bryant Rudd born I believe in the late 1790s in Virginia, I believe he died in 1847 in Kentucky. I got a death certificate in the mail listing my great-grandfathers parents as Hiram Rudd and Rebecca Allcock, I believe Hiram is Bryant's son, and think he was born around 1827 and died in 1900. Thanks Jim Rudd

I know. I was surprised, too. There is major work on Goodwin, Blakeman, Chester, Clark, Dwight, Edwards, Goodrich, Gurley, Hollister, Hopkins, Ingersoll, Jones, Judson, Kent, Mather, Metcalf, Mygatt, Nott, Porter, Sedgwick, Smith, Spencer, Stone, Storrs, Terry, Treat, Ward, Webster, Worthington and Case BTD ---------- From: NCRYERSON@aol.com[SMTP:NCRYERSON@aol.com] Reply To: RUDD-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, June 12, 2000 12:29 PM To: RUDD-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: RE Genealogical notes THANKS SO VERY MUCH, BETTY So hard to believe there is nothing on Chandler or Ashcraft.....both families spent several generations in CT, oh! well Thanks again. Nancy Montague, MI

And with a major work on Metcalf, you could not find a bride for Jonathan??? Thanks again, Betty Nancy Montague, MI

No problem! Nothing on Chandler... There is a reference to the surname Pelton on page 167. Keturah Nott was twice married. 1. to Capt. Abner Parker, jun., of Saybrook Connecicut. He died in 1756, in his 32d year. To Doct. Joseph Bishop, of Saybrook. After her death Doctor Bishop was married to widow Pelton. There are four Moseley references. pg. 27 Doct. John Clark, first of Windham, Conn., afterwards of lebanon, Madison county, N.Y., was married to Abigail Moseley, daughter of the Rev. Samuel Moseley, second Pastor of the second Congregational Church in that part of Windham now called Hampton, and sister of the late William Moseley, of Hartford, CT, December 13, 1781. Mrs. Abigail Clark died january 28, 1833, aged 76. pg. 29 There is a reference to Nancy Dunham who was the grand-daughter by her mother's side to Rev. Samuel Moseley, Pastor of the Congregational Church of Hampton... Nancy Dunham died May 6, 1821 in her 48th year. pg. 302 There is a reference to Mary Moseley, daughter of Abner Moseley, Esq., of Glastenbury, CT. She married Solomon Ellsworth on December 27, 1758 pg. 304 There is a reference to Rachel Moseley, daughter of Abner Moseley, of Glasenbury. Rachel married Rev. Simon Backus February 7, 1763. She died July 28, 1825, age 79 years, 9 months and 4 days. Nothing for Hazen... Johnson has four references: pg. 67 Reference to Samuel W. Johnson, Esq., of Stratford, CT who married Susan Edwards of New Haven, CT. pg. 239 Reference to Capt. Nathaniel Johnson of Guilford, CT who married Diana Ward abt. 1754. Capt. Nathaniel Johnson died in 1793. He was the brother of Samuel Johnson, D.D., first President of Kings, now Columbia College. pg. 290 Reference to Adeline M. Johnson who married Uriah Case pg. 317 Reference to Sally Johnson who married Walter Spencer in 1779 You just never know when something is going to hit! I was able to find many dates and verify some information I had. BTD ---------- From: NCRYERSON@aol.com[SMTP:NCRYERSON@aol.com] Reply To: RUDD-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2000 7:13 PM To: RUDD-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: RE Genealogical notes Thanks so much Betty, How about Chandler, Enfield, Hartford Co,. CT Fillmore Norwich, New London Co. Ct Pelton, Dorchester or Essex Co. MASS And did you check (I'm sure you did) the other RUDD names that were in CT Johnson and Mosley in Ct and Hartshorn, Mosley and Hazen in MA. Thanks for sharing your new TOY!!! U Nancy

THANKS SO VERY MUCH, BETTY So hard to believe there is nothing on Chandler or Ashcraft.....both families spent several generations in CT, oh! well Thanks again. Nancy Montague, MI

There is no reference for this either and the first part which covers the family in England and Ireland is so faint that it is nearly unreadable. Interesting theory! Celia in Illinois The Rood Family in America (1635?-1942) The exact date when the emigrant Rood came to America has not yet been ascertained. Two stories have come down as to his identity, though one of them seems more likely than the other. The first and more likely story is what we shall term "the Virginia landing and migration to Massachusetts Bay". The second concerns what we shall term "the retired pirate". The Virginia Landing Search of the available ships' companies of emigrants to these shores between 1630 and 1640 has failed to reveal the name of Rood, Rude, or Rudd among the early comers. However, there is extant in certain branches of the Rood family now living in Massachusetts the story that two sons and perhaps their father landed in Virginia about 1635 and subsequently moved to the Massachusetts Bay Colony, thence southward into Connecticut. We do know that a "Thos. Roode" appeared in the General court of that colony in behalf of one Nicholas Roe of Alaston, Somersetshire (England) in 1640, inasmuch as the Essex Institute records preserve this; in 1541 and the following years there is record of this attorney "Roode" having altercation in the courts with one Poole over a number of pairs of stockings which said Poole is supposed to have stolen from the attorney. Whether this Thos. Roode was the father of the two other Roods has not yet been determined. It is, however, extremely likely that he was. These two Rood(e)s (also spelled Rude, Rudd, Roode, Roodes and Ruud in early transcriptions, all spellings referred to these two men) were Thomas of Norwich and Lt. Johnathon [sic] of Saybrook. Inasmuch as Lt. Johnathon was evidently of his Majesty's Army and Saybrook was established as a fort to prevent marauding by Dutch and Indians in the Hooker and other Connecticut colonies, as well as the Rhode Island groups, it is not unlikely that Lt. Johnathon came to Virginia on assignment to Saybrook Fort, perhaps with his father (?) and brother (?), and later took up his duties in the North, either by coastwise vessel or overland. The former is the more probable route. Such exchanges were not uncommon. The records are not yet available, however, to substantiate this account except in part. The Retired Pirate Nelson Lancelot Rood, in his Notes first tells the story which he says is extant in certain branches of the Rood family of a Rood sea-captain who was captured and tortured by Barbary Coast pirates and, upon his subsequent escape, after swimming and floating in the Mediterranean three days and losing most of his epidermis from contact with the salt water, set sail for America with his crew, selling his ship in Dorchester or some port along the coast, the entire group settling down first at Dorchester, later in the wilderness of what is now Connecticut. It is extremely likely that this tale belongs not to the Rood family, but to the Mariner family, one of whom (Mary) married Thos. of Norwich's grandson. It can only have some ground in fact upon the disclosure of those investigated piracy in the Caribbean, that one "Blackbeard", whose true name was Redd, Rood or Rude, later retired to the Isle of Shoales with a "dark woman", supposed daughter of a Spanish grandee, capture on one of the pirate's sorties. It is more probable that the pirate story stems from the Mariner story of the sea-captain, and that neither is a story of the origins of the Rood family. That the captain's name was LaRood shipping from Marseilles (as some stories have it) has been pretty largely exploded by the research of N. L. Rood and Dr. Dwight Smith who found the Rood-Rude name in England and who pointed out that a Frenchman would not have joined the English colonists (who were not overly friendly to the Catholic French in their Separatist groups) but would certainly have settled down somewhere among the French colonists farther north. The Family of Lt. Johnathon That Lt. Johnathon Rood (Rude) was married we know from the story of the Brook Bride, celebrated both in Connecticut annals and in numerous ballads and other poems. His wife's name is not given, but subsequent records of his children's marriages indicate that this couple had four children, two sons and two daughters, all of whom had offspring. Their descendants are still found in America today. These children are: 1. Patience m. Samuel Bushnell 2. Mary m. Thomas Bingham (third generation in America) 3. Johnathon (Jonathan) of Preston d. 10 Aug 1698; m. 19 Dec. 167? Mary Bushnell --------------- nothing after this.

There is no reference for the following - just a photocopy of the page containing the bio: RUDD, Thomas (1584?-1656), captain, military engineer, and mathematician, eldest son of Thomas Rudd of Higham Ferrars, Northamptonshire, was born in 1583 or 1584. He served during his earlier years as a military engineer in the Low Countries, where he distinguished himself. On 10 July 1627 Charles I, having sent for him, appointed him 'chief engineer of all castles, forts, and fortifications within Wales,' at a salary of 240£ per annum. Subsequently he was appointed the king's principal engineer for fortifications, and in 1635 he visited Portsmouth in this capacity to settle a question between the governor and the admiralty as to the removal of some naval buildings which interfered with proposed fortifications. In 1638 he visited Guernsey and Jersey at the request of the governors, the Earl of Danby and Sir Thomas Jermyn, to survey the castles in those islands and report upon them to the board or ordnance. In February of the following year Rudd petitioned the board of ordnance for the payment of arrears of salary, amounting to over 1,300£. In June the board recommended the petition for the favourable consideration of the council, mentioning Rudd's services in commendatory terms, and observing that 'notwithstanding his old age, he was still willing to hazard his life in the king's service.' In April, having been employed in making a survey of the Portsmouth defences, he recommended that they should be reconstructed at an estimated cost of 4,956£. In June Rudd went to Dover to superintend the repairs to the harbour and to the Archcliffe bulwark or fort, and in October he reported to the council that the works were delayed for want of funds, and suggested that the revenues of the harbour, as well as the dues, should be devoted to the maintenance of the harbour and fort. To this the council assented on 29 May 1640, and on 31 Dec. following deirected all mayors, sheriffs, and justices to impress workmen in and about London and elsewhere for the works at Dover, which had been intrusted [sic] to Rudd. In October 1640 Rudd went to Portsmouth to finish the fortifications, on the special application of Colonel Goring, the governor, and he divided his attention during 1641 between Portsmouth and Dover. The work at Portsmouth was retarded for want of funds, and in January 1642 the governor demanded stores, and leave to use materials for fortification, according to Rudd's survey of the previous year. Rudd served as chief engineer on the royalist side throughout the civil war, and in 1655 his estate at Higham Ferrars was decimated on an assessment for the payment of the militia, as a punishment for his adherence to the royalist cause. He died in 1656, aged 72, and was buried in Higham Ferrars church, where several epitaphs composed by himself were inscribed on his tomb. Rudd was thrice married: first, to Elizabeth, daughter of Robert Castle of Glatton, Huntingdonshire; secondly, to Margaret, daughter of Edward Doyley of Overbury Hall, Suffolk; and thirdly, to Sarah, daughter of John Rolt of Milton Ernes, Bedfordshire. He left an only daughter, Judith, by his third wife; she married, first a kinsman, Anthony Rudd, and secondly, Goddard Pemberton, and died on 23 March 1680 (Bridges, Northamptonshire, ii. 176-7). Rudd was the author of 'Practical Geometry,' in two parts, London, 1650, and 'Euclides Elements of Geometry, the first six Books in a compendious form contrasted and demonstrated, whereunto is added the Mathematical Preface of Mr. John Dee,' small 4to London, 1651. He wrote the supplement to 'The Compleat Body of the Art Military,' by Lieutenant-colonel Richard Elton, London, 1650, fol.; 2nd edit. 1659. This supplement consists of six chapters, dealing with the duties of officers, the marching of troops and the art of gunnery. Sir James Turner, in his 'Pallas Armata' (1683), refers to another work by Rudd, in which he treats of the first use of the spade in sieges; but this cannot be traced. [Works in Brit. Mus. Library; Calendar of State Papers, Dom., 1634-42; Professional Papers of the Corps of Royal Engineers, Occasional Papers Series, vol. Xiii; Conolly Papers; Turner's Pallas Armata, 1683; List of Delinquent Estates decimated within the County of Northampton, 1656.]

Here's another letter to Marie which describes Rudds who were in England at least until 1861 (marriage certificate of John Rudd and Mary Handford). To: Marie Hogle From: Hannah ------- ---, Oregon 9----- [Page 1 missing] Page 2 My uncle, Roy Rudd, married Jessie Tavener, and they had Dorothy, Helen, and Charles Richard. Dorothy was married more than once, and I don't know what her name is now, although I think she may be using Dorothy Rudd (her maiden name). Helen's married name was Hammond and I presume still is. Charles Richard (Dick) was nearer my age (the girls were older), and we grew up together as children. He married, and was an officer in World War II in which he was killed in Europe. My uncle (Roy) was killed in an auto accident near Tuscola, Illinois, in Nov. 1930, and our families drifted apart after that, so I was never too close to them in our adult lives. My aunt (Bertha Rudd Morris) also had three children, Dean Morris and Lois Morris Sausser. My aunt died a couple of years ago, and Dean and Lois still live around Peoria where they had all lived for years. Oh, the third child died in infancy, I believe. I think Bertha's husband survives, or at least he was still living the last time I heard from my cousin Lois. I don't know whether any or all of this is relevant or not, but you can sift out what you want. From the above names, I think you can figure out what you want. From the above names, I think you can figure out the rest. It gets pretty much down to my brothers and myself and our marriages and our children and grandchildren. Š [Copy of marriage license] for: Wm. H. Rudd and Hannah J. Townsend (both of Livingston Co, Illinois) [Photocopy of Births] from family Bible: Gertrude Marion Altstadt Rudd - Oct 30, 1898 James Rudd - March 16, 1852 John W. Rudd - November 29, 1854 William H. Rudd - April 26, 1857 Mary E. Rudd - March 11, 1859 Ray Daniel Rudd - January 30, 1882 Bertha Luella Rudd - August 8, 1885 Herbert Clement Rudd - December 6, 1889 Hannah Margaret Rudd - October 12, 1920 Robert Lloyd Rudd - April 19, 1923 Herbert Clement Rudd, Jr. - January 1, 1931 Harvey Duane Rudd - November 11, 1934 Dean Morris - October 7, 1914 Lois Elizabeth Morris - July 11, 1920 Dorothy M. Rudd - Aug. 1908 Helen Murine Rudd - Sept. 12, 1910 Charles Richard Rudd - May 28, 1921 Š [Photocopy of Marriages] from family Bible: James Rudd and Mary E. Wilsabeck - February 6, 1873 John Rudd and Martha E. Smilie - Nov. 1875 William H. Rudd and Hannah J. Townsend - Feb. 2, 1881 Roy Rudd and Jessie Tavener - Nov. 1907 Bertha L. Rudd and Don W. Morris - 1910 Herbert C. Rudd and Gladys Melvin - June 19 1912 Herbert C. Rudd and Gertruce M. Altstadt - March 17, 1918 Hannah M. Rudd and George Edwin Andes - June 21, 1942 Š [Photocopy of marriage license] for: John Rudd of Levenshire, England And Mary A. Handford of Levenshire, England On February 6, 1861 at Parish Church By Rev. J. W. Baker [Photocopy of Deaths] from family Bible: Grandmother Margret Rudd - July 22, 1878 Aged 93 years (born 1785?) Mrs. Mary Rudd, May 14, 1891, aged 72 yrs 10 mon 22 days My Daughter Emma Chaning died Jan. 34d 1904 aged 44 years John Rudd, Sr. - October 2, 1905, aged 91 yrs 1 mo 22 days James Rudd - died 1923, May 24 71 yrs John Rudd - William Henry Rudd - May 16, 1932, aged 75 yrs, 20 da Hannah Jane Townsend Rudd - Dec. 23, 1932 - 76 yrs Roy Daniel Rudd - killed in an auto accident - Nov. 8, 1930 - 49 yrs Gladys Melvin Rudd - Nov. 22, 1916, 26 yrs Charles Richard Rudd - 1944, 23 yrs (WW II) Gertrude Marion Altstadt Rudd - Nov. 7, 1967, aged 69 yrs 8 da Herbert Clement Rudd, Sr. - Oct. 25, 1969, aged 79 yrs, 10 mos 19 days Bertha Luella Rudd Morris - Jan 6, 1971 - 85 yrs, 4 mo, 29 da [Photocopy of Memoranda] from family Bible: Sister Mary Andrews died Mar 21, 1884, aged 69 years Grandfather James Handford died Feb 12, 1859 Mr. and Mrs. H. C. rudd, Sr. and family moved from Forrest, Illinois to Grant's Pass, Oregon on June 23, 1938, with 1938 Ford V-8 and Silver Moon Trailer. [Photocopy of marriage certificate] for: Herbert C. Rudd, Forrest Illinois And Miss Gertrude Allstadt, Forrest, Illinois 17th day of March, 1919.

I've been going through some of Marie Hogle's papers (trying to find some evidence to link either Johnson Rudd or Leonard Rudd with Barak Rudd - no success). Anyway, I ran across some documents that I've been planning to send to the list. Here's the first - a letter apparently in response to one that Marie sent: Dear Mrs. Hogle, Your letter was very interesting. Didn't imagine our Tri-State Trader reached Oregon. I collect antiques as well as ancestors. If you definitely connect with the early Connecticut Rudds, my husband's Rudd line is not connected with yours unless it was long ago in England or Ireland. We doubt the Rudds were Irish but were apparently some of many soldiers granted land in northern Ireland by King William III. Not that I have the line traced back this far, it is speculative based on history and names of Orangemen so granted land. My husband and I, and most of our ancestors for several generations, are natives of Michigan. The name Rudd is uncommon there but we lived in New Orleans from 1953 to 1961 and there were a number of Rudds there, some quite prominent. My husband is a sales representative and is often in Kentucky and says the name is fairly common there. Bob's father was Vern Rudd (1893-1916) who was born in Big Rapids, Mich., son of William James Rudd and Caroline Clendenning. Vern Rudd died a few months before his son was born. Bob's mother, who has lived in Three Rivers, Mich. all her life, knew very little about Vern Rudd's family. He was the youngest of 4 children and his parents were both dead when Vern Rudd and Charlotte Keyport married. William J. Rudd and Caroline Clendenning came to michigan from Gananoque, Ontario about 1878. They were born in either Leeds or Lansdowne County, Ontario. William on October 9, 1845. He died in Big Rapids, Mich., March 7, 1907. We found the record of his death at the courthouse there. William and Caroline's issue: Byron Stafford Rudd, b. Ontario, 3-18-1873 George Wesley Rudd, b. Ontario, 12-31-1875 Mary A. Rudd, b. Big Rapids, Mich., 2-8-1880 Vern Rudd, b. Big Rapids, Mich., 2-8-1893 Vern Rudd was the only one of the above who had a son (my husband) the others had daughters and we have 3 daughters, no sons. Mary was Aunt Mae to my husband, and the only Rudd relative he ever knew, she had William and Caroline's Bible. It showed William's father as George Rudd, died November 21, 1897 but nothing about his mother. Stalemate - then our youngest daughter and her husband moved to Watertown, N.Y. just across the St. Lawrence from Gananoque for a brief time. (They are returning to Watertown about the first of the year and I have plans for her!). Ellen went exploring and found George Rudd's grave and beside it his wife, Hannah Graham. Gravestones in Ontario show wife's maiden name. Ellen also located some distant Clendenning relatives and I have corresponded with them since. One is a Bradley and they had evidence George Rudd was married to Susan Bradley before Hannah Graham. But who was William's mother? Researching in Canada is extremely difficult because until late in the 19th century all birth, marriage and death records were kept by the churches and the church in the area we are interested in has no records before 1895. I was able to obtain George Rudd's and Andrew Clendenning's death certificates from the government of Ontario. George Rudd's states he was born in Ireland, died in Gananoque November 21, 1897, aged 87 years, 7 months - no parents names shown. There are no Rudds living in this area now but Ellen found gravestones with the Rudd name in several places. Have no way of knowing what relationship there may be. An old land plat shows George Rudd and Henry Rudd living side by side. Father and son? Or brothers? There must have been many more children of George Rudd. Caroline Clendenning Rudd's father, Andrew, had 13 children by 2 wives and many of these came to the U.S. I need to go to Ontario and find the private proceedings on George Rudd's estate tho this will not help on his wives as he outlived them. My research is restricted as I work full-time for the Government and tho I earn lots of annual leave each year, I have had to use a lot of it along with sick leave for some long hospitalizations. Things are going well now, so maybe we will get to some of the places I need to go to do primary research in the coming year. I am enclosing a list of surnames in our family trees, perhaps we may have another surname of common interest. I am trying to build an ancestral history of our daughters. Some day Ellen will take over as this is more than a one life time task. Task really is not the right word as I love every minute of it. Yours truly, Betty Rudd Surnames: Cook, Lockwood, Van Nest(e), Straight, Alexander, St. John (Sentian), Knapp, Hutchinson, Millington, Mills, Rundle, Close, Weston, Denton, Krause, McDowell, Duperon, Snyder, Shriver, Limebeck, King, Rudd, Bradley, Graham, Clendenning, Bowen, Keyport, Crossette, Fisk, Fridrici, Sealer, Reed

Sorry Nancy, No Ashcraft listing...Any others? ---------- From: NCRYERSON@aol.com[SMTP:NCRYERSON@aol.com] Reply To: RUDD-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2000 4:04 PM To: RUDD-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: RE Genealogical notes Betty, How about ASHCRAFT...... Thanks Nancy Montague MI

I looked at the CD census index for 1820, and don't find Abigail in NY. There's one in CT. Joann Nichols Kevin K. Stephenson wrote: > > Wouldn't hurt to know how many, and what ages, though. If we have the right > number, and a male the right age, we'd be a little closer. > > Kevin. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Joann H. Nichols [mailto:jnichols@sover.net] > Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2000 11:10 AM > To: RUDD-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: Bara(c)k Rudd > > Censuses didn't start listing all members of a household until > 1850--sorry! There would only be numbers under the various age > brackets. > > Joann > > Celia Snyder wrote: > > > > Kevin, Milton, and all - > > > > I had a thought - has anyone checked the 1820 census for New York? > > Wouldn't Abigail have been listed, along with the children? My > > records show that all the children were born in Vermont with the > > exception of Sanford who was born in New York, ca 1816, so they > > should be in the 1820 census - right? > > > > Celia

Thanks so much Betty, How about Chandler, Enfield, Hartford Co,. CT Fillmore Norwich, New London Co. Ct Pelton, Dorchester or Essex Co. MASS And did you check (I'm sure you did) the other RUDD names that were in CT Johnson and Mosley in Ct and Hartshorn, Mosley and Hazen in MA. Thanks for sharing your new TOY!!! Ü Nancy

Hi Southern Rudds, Here is a website I came across listing some Rudds in a cemetery in Kentucky: http://www.rootsweb.com/~kygallat/cem/RuddCem.html Glenn Thibault Florida

Rudd..... --- Milton & Kathy Rudd <goldspecs@earthlink.net> wrote: > Hello Jane > It appears there were a bunch of Irish Rudds > that migrated to the Dakotas > during the potato famine in Ireland, in the mid > 1800s. There were others > that migrated about the same time but more as > individuals. > regards > Milton > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jane Jones" <jane_e_jones@talk21.com> > To: <RUDD-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2000 1:26 PM > Subject: Replies to what happens on this list > > > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > > > > ------=_NextPart_000_0035_01BFD31A.353C06C0 > > Content-Type: text/plain; > > charset="iso-8859-1" > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > > > Thanks for the replies. It was helpful to > know that your searches are > > 'early'! It looks as if need to get back a > bit further on my line & then > > start asking about people. I went through all > the records from 1837 when > > registration started in the UK, for Grantham > and there were Rudds there > > then. I think there seem to be two families > who, according to my mum, were > > not related. ?. I will get on with a bit more > research and keep with the > > list. If anyone has Rudd descendants who they > find are from > > Lincolnshire/Nottinghamshire, PLEASE make > contact. > > > > Are the US Rudd's mainly of English descent? > Sorry if this is a dumb > > question but I don't know much about the > history of Names in the US? > > > > Look forward to hearing from you all. > > Jane > > > > ------=_NextPart_000_0035_01BFD31A.353C06C0 > > Content-Type: text/x-vcard; > > name="Jane Jones.vcf" > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Content-Disposition: attachment; > > filename="Jane Jones.vcf" > > > > BEGIN:VCARD > > VERSION:2.1 > > N:Jones;Jane > > FN:Jane Jones > > REV:20000610T202650Z > > END:VCARD > > > > ------=_NextPart_000_0035_01BFD31A.353C06C0-- > > > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos -- now, 100 FREE prints! http://photos.yahoo.com

Having lots of fun with it. Let me know if there are any surnames I can look up for you! ---------- From: Dumonddr@aol.com[SMTP:Dumonddr@aol.com] Reply To: RUDD-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2000 11:27 AM To: RUDD-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: RE Genealogical notes Thanks much. I know it as First Settlers-----. Dot

Betty, How about ASHCRAFT...... Thanks Nancy Montague MI

Dot The Goodwin thing is somebody elses, not mine. Evidently a book about New England settlers. see ya Milton ----- Original Message ----- From: <Dumonddr@aol.com> To: <RUDD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2000 9:21 AM Subject: Re: RE Genealogical notes > Milton: What is this Goodwin thing you are talking abouot? Didn't realize > I was > so badly out of the swim of things. Hadn't heard about it before > > Have fun, > > Dot DuMond > >

Thanks...we'll just have to keep digging. I must admit. Your Mary Birchard sounds promising. ---------- From: Milton & Kathy Rudd[SMTP:goldspecs@earthlink.net] Reply To: RUDD-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2000 10:06 AM To: RUDD-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: RE Genealogical notes Betty Thomas Birchard settled in Saybrook in the 1640's from England. The family name was spelled Burchard in England but Thomas changed the Spelling. It was his daughter Mary that I feel is the bride of Jonathan. The family moved on to Rhode Island but Mary did not accompany them and there was never a further mention of her. This leaves credence to her marrying Jonathan. Different members of the family used the different spellings. Milton ----- Original Message ----- From: "Betty Davis" <btd@sierratel.com> To: <RUDD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2000 8:42 AM Subject: RE: RE Genealogical notes > Thank you. It would seen the Mary Metcalf I have been looking at is out of > the question. It's that MM thing again...I can't shake it. > F.Y.I. I looked the surname Burchard up in my Goodwin (can you tell I have > a new toy) and found Jacob Worthington of Colchester, Connecticut, and Mary > Burchard, daughter of John Burchard, of Norwich, in the same state, were > married May 29, 1760. > Obviously, this is not a possible match for Jonathan...just thought the > spelling Burchard...as opposed to Birchard was interesting. This book was > written in 1856 and covers several Connecticut and Massachusetts families > from early 1600's to middle 1800's. Unfortunately, no Rudd listings. > Checked the Burchard forum and found no activity for the name Rudd. I think > I'll stir things up over there and see what happens. > > ---------- > From: Milton & Kathy Rudd[SMTP:goldspecs@earthlink.net] > Reply To: RUDD-L@rootsweb.com > Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2000 7:05 PM > To: RUDD-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: RE Genealogical notes > > When I began my research, like so many others, I found Mary Metcalf listed > as the bride of Jonathan Rudd. > I wanted to verify my information. I found that Mary Metcalf arrived in > Boston in 1636 with her father, Michael Metcalf and her mother, Sarah > Elwin, along wih about 5 siblings. > They removed to Dedham, Mass, where they stayed. Mary married Henry Wilson > in 1642. Mary died in Dedham don Feb 12, 1672 and Henry died there Feb 8, > 1682. Sarah died and Michael married Mary Pidge. Mary and Henry had five > children between 1644 and 1656. > > Further searching found Jonathan most likely married Mary Birchard > (Burchard). I have found nothing to verify it and certainly nothing to > dispute it. > For whatever it is worth to anyone.... > > your cuz > Milton Rudd > > > >

That would be my new book. I purchased a copy of Genealogical Notes - First Settlers of Connecticut and Massachusetts, written by Nathaniel Goodwin, published in 1856. Found it on 3-Bay... ---------- From: Dumonddr@aol.com[SMTP:Dumonddr@aol.com] Reply To: RUDD-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2000 9:21 AM To: RUDD-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: RE Genealogical notes Milton: What is this Goodwin thing you are talking abouot? Didn't realize I was so badly out of the swim of things. Hadn't heard about it before Have fun, Dot DuMond

Betty Thomas Birchard settled in Saybrook in the 1640's from England. The family name was spelled Burchard in England but Thomas changed the Spelling. It was his daughter Mary that I feel is the bride of Jonathan. The family moved on to Rhode Island but Mary did not accompany them and there was never a further mention of her. This leaves credence to her marrying Jonathan. Different members of the family used the different spellings. Milton ----- Original Message ----- From: "Betty Davis" <btd@sierratel.com> To: <RUDD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2000 8:42 AM Subject: RE: RE Genealogical notes > Thank you. It would seen the Mary Metcalf I have been looking at is out of > the question. It's that MM thing again...I can't shake it. > F.Y.I. I looked the surname Burchard up in my Goodwin (can you tell I have > a new toy) and found Jacob Worthington of Colchester, Connecticut, and Mary > Burchard, daughter of John Burchard, of Norwich, in the same state, were > married May 29, 1760. > Obviously, this is not a possible match for Jonathan...just thought the > spelling Burchard...as opposed to Birchard was interesting. This book was > written in 1856 and covers several Connecticut and Massachusetts families > from early 1600's to middle 1800's. Unfortunately, no Rudd listings. > Checked the Burchard forum and found no activity for the name Rudd. I think > I'll stir things up over there and see what happens. > > ---------- > From: Milton & Kathy Rudd[SMTP:goldspecs@earthlink.net] > Reply To: RUDD-L@rootsweb.com > Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2000 7:05 PM > To: RUDD-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: RE Genealogical notes > > When I began my research, like so many others, I found Mary Metcalf listed > as the bride of Jonathan Rudd. > I wanted to verify my information. I found that Mary Metcalf arrived in > Boston in 1636 with her father, Michael Metcalf and her mother, Sarah > Elwin, along wih about 5 siblings. > They removed to Dedham, Mass, where they stayed. Mary married Henry Wilson > in 1642. Mary died in Dedham don Feb 12, 1672 and Henry died there Feb 8, > 1682. Sarah died and Michael married Mary Pidge. Mary and Henry had five > children between 1644 and 1656. > > Further searching found Jonathan most likely married Mary Birchard > (Burchard). I have found nothing to verify it and certainly nothing to > dispute it. > For whatever it is worth to anyone.... > > your cuz > Milton Rudd > > > >