Hi, Judy, I don't know if you need to know what your Hartshorn ancestry is or not. The address my letter came from was Velma Fast, Hartshorn Family Reunion - 1999, 4023 NW South Drive, Riverside, MO 64151, telephone 816/741-8066. I used to be a member of the Hartshorn Family Association for a couple years, but then didn't renew, but occasionally I still get mailings from them. The cost is, sailing from the Port of Vancouver, BC, Category L Inside $989.00; Category H Outside $1,230.00; 3rd/4th person sharing stateroom with two full-fair paying adults $399.00. All port charges and taxes are included in this rate along with shipboard accommodations, entertainment and lots and lots of great foof (24 hr food if you wish). This rate is a saving of $1,060.00 on category L and $1,119.00 on category H. This price does not include air transportation, transfers, or items of a personal nature such as shore excursions, sodas, alcoholic beverages, gratuities, etc. For those of you wishing to do so, you will have the ability to purchase air transportation at an additional cost. And more info is included. Joann [email protected] wrote: > Joann, > > I would be interested in more information regarding the Hartshorn Reunion > Cruise. Where did this info come from? How does a descendant get on the > Hartshorn mailing list (provided there is one)?? This inquiring mind wants to > know! > > Thanks, > Judy

Judy & all - The Hartshorn reunion cruise seems very interesting, and I'd like to learn more about it. Your question regarding a mailing list - Send an e-mail to: [email protected] with message: subscribe and you'll get a reply adding you to their list. I've just subscribed myself but haven't received any info on the cruise.... Maybe Joann can supply more info. Janet

Hello, Cousins Yes, it's long lost cousin, Nancy. As we all are, I have been very busy and have put genealogy, ALMOST on hold. My twin boys graduated from HS in June and my daughter is marring in 30 days. I am making every thing (dresses (6), invatations, all decorations, favors, etc, etc. I just finally caught up on July's mail from you all. First, I have the "Rudd-Metcalf record" from Joann's peri listing. It is titled "The Bride of Bride's Brook" by Norine Boyd Stewart. Just tells about the Brides Brook wedding, but names Mary Metcalf as the bride. It's only 2 para. long, so if you all want it, I'll send it out. (on this board) Second....Celia, I very much want some of the info you have available for coping, from the Marie Hogle collection. But really, really don't have time to read through them all and make choises. If I can still get copies, say in September, that would be very helpful. But if you choose not to drag it on that long, or if it is already to late, I surely would understand. Please let me know. Thanks To all of you, thanks for the recent info on Johnson and Bathsheba, also my line. I very much look forward to getting back into genealogy (and life itself). But also look forward to Elly and Jeremy's wedding day. Wish me luck!! Thanks again Cousin Nancy

Hi, Cousins, Did any of you descended from Nathaniel(2) Rudd and Abigail Hartshorn get the mailing from the Hartshorn Family Reunion - 1999, regarding the Royal Caribbean cruise of the Inside Passage in Alaska, to be held starting May 29, 1999? I'm really psyched! It doesn't seem too expensive; have to check into the cost for air transportation to British Columbia from Hartford, CT (Bradley Airport). Also, the cruise consultant can arrange for air transportation; they have an 800 number. If you haven't received the mailing and are interested, I'll see what additional information I can give you. Joann Nichols (with two Hartshorn lines, one to Rudd and one to Eaton) [email protected]

Hi, Sherry, Welcome! I think I remember Celia posting something to the list regarding Elias David Rudd's line. Was that for you? It will be great if you can look for the entry at the Ft. Wayne library. In fact, all the entries that were on the PERSI e-mail I sent would be there, in case you find anything else on there you'd like. Joann Nichols Sherry L. Nisly wrote: > At 04:36 PM 7/23/98 -0400, Joann H. Nichols wrote: > >This shows where copies of the article may be obtained. Anyone live near > >any of these libraries or want to write the Fresno Genealogical Society? > > Greetings to all my RUDD cousins! > > Hi! I'm new and havent even posted my intro yet, but if no one is > able to look up this info any sooner, I will be going to the Ft. Wayne > library in 2 weeks and would be happy to see what there is in it. But > I will not be offended if someone can get to it sooner than that. > > My RUDD lines are as follows: > 1-Elias David Rudd > m. Fannie Breeland Tanner > 2-Elias Trowel Rudd > m. Mary Margaret Sadberry > 3-Mandy Rudd > m. Charlie Hintz Richards > 4-Allen Lafayette Richards (my grandfather) > > -- > Sherry Lynn (B O U S E) N I S L Y also looking for ... > B O U D R E A U X - S H E R M A N - C O L E M A N - R U D D - > F A U L K - H E B E R T - M O U T O N - H A R R I N G T O N - > L A P O I N T E - R I C H A R D S - C O L E Y - G U I D R Y - > W I N D E R W E E D L E - L A W H O R N - S C H O E T T L E R - > S A D B E R R Y - G A S T A L - H A R D E S T Y - B L A N K - > L U N N - H O C H S T E T L E R - L A N D R Y - T H O R P E - > S W A R T Z E N D R U B E R - P O O L - H O U S H O U L D E R - > D E R O V E N - M A T H I E V - T A N N E R - B E N D E R - > Y O D E R - T R O Y E R - S U A R E Z - A C O S T A - ...

Joann, I would be interested in more information regarding the Hartshorn Reunion Cruise. Where did this info come from? How does a descendant get on the Hartshorn mailing list (provided there is one)?? This inquiring mind wants to know! Thanks, Judy

At 04:36 PM 7/23/98 -0400, Joann H. Nichols wrote: >This shows where copies of the article may be obtained. Anyone live near >any of these libraries or want to write the Fresno Genealogical Society? Greetings to all my RUDD cousins! Hi! I'm new and havent even posted my intro yet, but if no one is able to look up this info any sooner, I will be going to the Ft. Wayne library in 2 weeks and would be happy to see what there is in it. But I will not be offended if someone can get to it sooner than that. My RUDD lines are as follows: 1-Elias David Rudd m. Fannie Breeland Tanner 2-Elias Trowel Rudd m. Mary Margaret Sadberry 3-Mandy Rudd m. Charlie Hintz Richards 4-Allen Lafayette Richards (my grandfather) -- Sherry Lynn (B O U S E) N I S L Y also looking for ... B O U D R E A U X - S H E R M A N - C O L E M A N - R U D D - F A U L K - H E B E R T - M O U T O N - H A R R I N G T O N - L A P O I N T E - R I C H A R D S - C O L E Y - G U I D R Y - W I N D E R W E E D L E - L A W H O R N - S C H O E T T L E R - S A D B E R R Y - G A S T A L - H A R D E S T Y - B L A N K - L U N N - H O C H S T E T L E R - L A N D R Y - T H O R P E - S W A R T Z E N D R U B E R - P O O L - H O U S H O U L D E R - D E R O V E N - M A T H I E V - T A N N E R - B E N D E R - Y O D E R - T R O Y E R - S U A R E Z - A C O S T A - ...

Hi, Kevin, and other cousins, Here is the information on the publication where the article appeared: Periodical Title: Ash Tree Echo Click here to see articles from this periodical in persi. PERSI Code: CAAT General Subject Area: U.S. Topics: CA Issues Per Year: 2x Other Titles: Notes: annual indexes v.1-24 ACPL Holdings: v.1- 1966- ACPL Call Number: OPEN ISSN Number: 0004-4377 Other repositories holding this title include: Allen County Public Library ,Los Angeles Public Library ,Library of Congress ,New York Public Library ,State Historical Society of Wisconsin Library ,Dallas Public Library (partial holdings) ,Family History Library (partial holdings) Publisher: Fresno Genealogical Society Publisher Address: POB 1429, Fresno, CA 93716-1429 This shows where copies of the article may be obtained. Anyone live near any of these libraries or want to write the Fresno Genealogical Society? Joann Kevin K. Stephenson wrote: > Joann-- > Should we check into the "Rudd-Metcalf record" listed in your PERSI notes?? > > Kevin K. Stephenson > 1600 Kentucky St. #2 > Lawrence, Kansas 66044 > (785)865-1586 > Data/Fax: (785)865-2555 > e-mail: [email protected] > website: http://falcon.cc.ukans.edu/~kevin2/homepage.html

Joann-- Should we check into the "Rudd-Metcalf record" listed in your PERSI notes?? Kevin K. Stephenson 1600 Kentucky St. #2 Lawrence, Kansas 66044 (785)865-1586 Data/Fax: (785)865-2555 e-mail: [email protected] website: http://falcon.cc.ukans.edu/~kevin2/homepage.html

Hi, Cousins, I have just received the upgraded CD for PERSI (Periodical Source Index) and have taken off the 54 references to Rudd. Most of these would have been on the list I sent several months ago, but we have new people and it always helps to look at things twice! Joann Locality: U.S. States, Arkansas, Carroll Record Type: Cemeteries Article Title: Old Rudd Cemetery Periodical: Carroll County Historical Society Quarterly Volume: 6 Number: 2 (June 1961) Locality: U.S. States, Arkansas, Carroll Record Type: Cemeteries Article Title: Rudd Cemetery Periodical: Carroll County Historical Society Quarterly Volume: 6 Number: 2 (June 1961) Locality: U.S. States, Connecticut, Fairfield Record Type: Military Article Title: Service of John Rudd, 19th cent., Navy Commodore Periodical: Darien Historical Society Annual Volume: 1 Number: 6 (March 1960) Locality: U.S. States, Iowa, Floyd Record Type: Cemeteries Article Title: Early burials-Evergreen cemetery, Rudd Periodical: Genie Bug Volume: 13 Number: 2 (Spring 1987) Locality: U.S. States, Illinois, Iroquois Record Type: School Article Title: Rudd school no. 214 Periodical: Iroquois Stalker Volume: 21 Number: 3 (1991) Locality: U.S. States, Kentucky, Fulton Record Type: Vital Records Article Title: Deaths, 1899-1941, Dr. Rudd memorial tablet, W-Y Periodical: Fulton-Hickman Genealogical Journal Volume: 7 Number: 1 (1991) Locality: U.S. States, Kentucky, Gallatin Record Type: Cemeteries Article Title: Craig, North, & Rudd cemeteries Periodical: Kentucky Ancestors Volume: 16 Number: 2 (October 1980) Locality: U.S. States, Michigan, Shiawassee Record Type: History Article Title: Edward Rudd recalls Con Culhane, Michigan Periodical: Shiawassee Gazette Volume: 10 Number: 3 (November 1973) Locality: U.S. States, New York, Oneida Record Type: Vital Records Article Title: Marriages performed by Prosper Rudd, Jp, 1805-26 Periodical: New York Genealogical and Biographical Record Volume: 85 Number: 3 (July 1954) Locality: U.S. States, Virginia, Tazewell Record Type: History Article Title: Frand Rudd memories Periodical: Tazewell County Historical Society Newsletter Volume: 2 Number: 2 (June 1989) Locality: U.S. States, Wisconsin, Jackson Record Type: Military Article Title: Rudd Mills military payroll, 1883 Periodical: Monroe, Juneau, Jackson Counties Genealogical Workshop Newsletter Volume: 6 Number: 4 (February 1992) Locality: U.S. States, Wisconsin, Monroe Record Type: Military Article Title: Rudd Mills military payroll, 1883 Periodical: Monroe, Juneau, Jackson Counties Genealogical Workshop Newsletter Volume: 6 Number: 4 (February 1992) Surname: Mann Article Title: Eliza Mann Rudd memoirs, b.1836, Tennessee, Arkansas Periodical: Johnson County Historical Society Journal Volume: 23 Number: 2 (October 1997) Surname: Rudd Article Title: Eliza Mann Rudd memoirs, b.1836, Tennessee, Arkansas Periodical: Johnson County Historical Society Journal Volume: 23 Number: 2 (October 1997) Surname: Rudd Article Title: Rudd family, Arkansas, Arizona Periodical: Carroll County Historical Society Quarterly Volume: 23 Number: 4 (Winter 1978) Surname: Rudd Article Title: Rudd family, Lincolnshire, Eng. Periodical: Genealogist Volume: 4 Number: 4 (1880) Surname: Bunch Article Title: Helen Rudd Bunch, leters to mother, 1856, Minnesota Periodical: Goodhue County Historical News Volume: 18 Number: 1 (March 1984) Surname: Cheatham Article Title: Cheatham-Hancock-Rudd familly, Virginia, Mississippi, Georgia Periodical: Genie Volume: 14 Number: 1 (January 1980) Surname: Culhane Article Title: Edward Rudd recalls Con Culhane, Michigan Periodical: Shiawassee Gazette Volume: 10 Number: 3 (November 1973) Surname: Hancock Article Title: Cheatham-Hancock-Rudd familly, Virginia, Mississippi, Georgia Periodical: Genie Volume: 14 Number: 1 (January 1980) Surname: Owens Article Title: Rudd-Owens Bible, 1808-1920, Texas Periodical: Records of East Texas Volume: 5 Number: 1 (October 1970) Surname: Rudd Article Title: Anne Rudd widow, Eng., plea Periodical: Genealogists' Magazine Volume: 7 Number: 6 (June 1936) Surname: Rudd Article Title: Cheatham-Hancock-Rudd familly, Virginia, Mississippi, Georgia Periodical: Genie Volume: 14 Number: 1 (January 1980) Surname: Rudd Article Title: David Rudd, steamboat captain Periodical: Rogue Digger Volume: 12 Number: 1 (Spring 1977) Surname: Rudd Article Title: Edward C. Rudd, Michigan, obit., 1974 Periodical: Shiawassee Gazette Volume: 11 Number: 3 (April 1974) Surname: Rudd Article Title: Edward Rudd recalls Con Culhane, Michigan Periodical: Shiawassee Gazette Volume: 10 Number: 3 (November 1973) Surname: Rudd Article Title: Elijah Rudd-Martha Slaton Bible, 1836-71 Periodical: Yesterday'S Tuckaways Volume: 23 Number: 2 (Summer 1991) Surname: Rudd Article Title: Frand Rudd memories, Virginia Periodical: Tazewell County Historical Society Newsletter Volume: 2 Number: 2 (June 1989) Surname: Rudd Article Title: George Rudd death, 1884, New York Periodical: New England Historical and Genealogical Register Volume: 39 Number: 1 (January 1885) Surname: Rudd Article Title: George Thomas Rudd 1854-1913, Ilfracombe,Eng. Periodical: Family Tree Magazine Volume: 5 Number: 11 (September 1989) Surname: Rudd Article Title: Helen Rudd Bunch, leters to mother, 1856, Minnesota Periodical: Goodhue County Historical News Volume: 18 Number: 1 (March 1984) Surname: Rudd Article Title: Jabez Rudd memories, b.1806, Massachusetts; Wyoming Periodical: Historical Wyoming Volume: 28 Number: 2 (October 1981) Surname: Rudd Article Title: John Rudd bio., Darien co., Connecticut Periodical: Darien Historical Society Annual Volume: 1 Number: 6 (March 1960) Surname: Rudd Article Title: Jonathan Rudd family, Preston, Connecticut Periodical: Ancestral Notes From Chedwato Volume: 12 Number: 5 (September 1965) Surname: Rudd Article Title: Jonathan Rudd of Connecticut Periodical: Connecticut Nutmegger Volume: 7 Number: 2 (September 1974) Surname: Rudd Article Title: Malcolm Day Rudd obituary, 1942, Connecticut Periodical: New England Historical and Genealogical Register Volume: 96 Number: 4 (October 1942) Surname: Rudd Article Title: Mary Rudd, 1835 letter, Ontario Periodical: Leeds and Grenville Branch News and Views Volume: 14 Number: 5 (May 1988) Surname: Rudd Article Title: Rudd Bible, Kansas Periodical: Treesearcher Volume: 23 Number: 4 (Winter 1981) Surname: Rudd Article Title: Rudd family on O'Plaine Rd., Illinois Periodical: Historically Speaking Volume: 29 Number: 1 (Summer 1996) Surname: Rudd Article Title: Rudd family reunion, Arkansas Periodical: Flint Genealogical Quarterly Volume: 20 Number: 4 (October 1978) Surname: Rudd Article Title: Rudd-Bean family, Fremont co., Idaho Periodical: Utah Genealogical and Historical Magazine Volume: 28 Number: 1 (January 1937) Surname: Rudd Article Title: Rudd-Metcalf record, Connecticut Periodical: Ash Tree Echo Volume: 1 Number: 2 (September 1966) Surname: Rudd Article Title: Rudd-Owens Bible, 1808-1920, Texas Periodical: Records of East Texas Volume: 5 Number: 1 (October 1970) Surname: Rudd Article Title: Smith-Rudd family, Dutchess co., New York Periodical: Orange County Genealogical Society Quarterly Volume: 14 Number: 1 (May 1984) Surname: Rudd Article Title: Steward Rudd Periodical: Magoffin County Historical Society Journal Volume: 8 Number: 2 (Spring 1986) Surname: Rudd Article Title: Stewart Rudd autobiography, Kentucky Periodical: Magoffin County Historical Society Journal Volume: 9 Number: 1 (February 1987) Surname: Rudd Article Title: Stewart Rudd autobiography, Kentucky Periodical: Magoffin County Historical Society Journal Volume: 9 Number: 2 (May 1987) Surname: Rudd Article Title: Stewart Rudd, Kentucky Periodical: Magoffin County Historical Society Journal Volume: 8 Number: 1 (Winter 1986) Surname: Rudd Article Title: Stewart Rudd, Kentucky Periodical: Magoffin County Historical Society Journal Volume: 8 Number: 3 (Summer 1986) Surname: Rudd Article Title: Thomas Jennings Rudd, b.1831, Virginia Periodical: G.R.I. News N' Notes Volume: 13 Number: 7 (September 1993) Surname: Rudd Article Title: William Rudd family, 1792-1848 England, Ohio,Iowa Periodical: Buried Treasures Volume: 19 Number: 4 (October 1987) Surname: Rudd Article Title: William Rudd, 1931, Ilfracombe, Eng. Periodical: Devon Family Historian Number: 49 (February 1989) Surname: Slaton Article Title: Elijah Rudd-Martha Slaton Bible, 1836-71 Periodical: Yesterday'S Tuckaways Volume: 23 Number: 2 (Summer 1991) Surname: Smith Article Title: Smith-Rudd family, Dutchess co., New York Periodical: Orange County Genealogical Society Quarterly Volume: 14 Number: 1 (May 1984)

This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --part0_901203097_boundary Content-ID: <[email protected]_out.mail.aol.com.1> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Hi Gang, Forwarding this message from James F. Rudd to the list in hopes some of ya'll might be able to help him. Thanks, Linda Rudd --part0_901203097_boundary Content-ID: <[email protected]_out.mail.aol.com.2> Content-type: message/rfc822 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Content-disposition: inline From: [email protected] Return-path: <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Subject: The Rudd Name Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1998 00:51:00 EDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Mrs. Rudd, my name is James F. Rudd I can't find if my family is on your list of Rudd's. I was born 02/04/65 in Westland, Michigan. My fathers name is Sidney I. Rudd he was born in Detroit, Michigan DOB 09/30/36. My grandfathers name is Edward Rudd and he was born in 1900 in the month of July I believe. Both my father and grandfather have passed away and I don't have access to any information on that part of my family. If you can find me on this list please let me know> Thank-you Jim --part0_901203097_boundary--

---2131474914-986468767-901163655=:14249 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Hello again, Crowd-- Please pardon the repeat, just hope that someone had found some news since this ran before. Appreciate ANY help. [email protected] note: forwarded msg attached. _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ---2131474914-986468767-901163655=:14249 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Return-Path: <[email protected]> Received: from bl-30.rootsweb.com (207.113.245.30) by mta-pc4.yahoomail.com with SMTP; 30 Jun 1998 13:14:52 -0700 Received: (from [email protected]) by bl-30.rootsweb.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA16460; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 13:16:01 -0700 (PDT) Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 13:16:01 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <[email protected]> Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 13:17:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Ronald Presley <[email protected]> Subject: A lost RUDD orphan Old-To: [email protected] Old-Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: <"J3ijLD.A.1AE.AeUm1"@bl-30.rootsweb.com> To: [email protected] Resent-From: [email protected] Reply-To: [email protected] X-Mailing-List: <[email protected]> archive/latest/92 X-Loop: [email protected] Precedence: list Resent-Sender: [email protected] Content-Length: 786 Greetings, Crowd---- JAMES W.G. RUDD was born somewhere in North Carolina, abt. 1815. Thought Warren Co., but not sure. Wife on 1850 census was MALINDA (Sindy)?, also born abt 1815, in North Carolina. Believe they went to Cherokee Co., Ga., around 1835 or so. First child was Henry Clay Rudd, born in GA., 1840. There were several more children born, assume all born in same area. Census said they lived in 15th Dist. of Cherokee Co., before leaving to go to Shelby County, Alabama in 1859-60. If anyone can help find this man's birthplace, and parent, siblings, anything, it will be very much appreciated. Ronald Presley [email protected] _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ---2131474914-986468767-901163655=:14249--

Hi, Kevin, and other cousins, The latest that I'm sure Bathsheba is alive is at the time Increase(4)'s will was filed. I have a copy of a notice from the probate court for the district of Rutland: To Bathsheba Rudd Widow, Barak Rudd, Johnson, Samuel Rudd, Stephen Richardson and Hanna his wife, Rastus Hill and Theda his wife, Samuel Spicer and Sarah his wife, Ormond Butler and Abigail his wife and Pitman Barker and Lydia his wife. Widow of and heirs to the estate of Increase Rudd late of Middletown in said district. This was dated the 7th? day of Jan. 1803. Johnson Rudd was authorized to deliver and return this citation. In his will he does not mention his wife; here's what he does do: 1st, I do give and bequeath unto My Son Silas Rudd one Dollar to be paid him after my decease out of the avails of my Cooper's tools, to be raised and paid out by my Executor. 2nd, I do hereby give and bequeath unto Deborah Wood my daughter one Dollar to be paid by my executor after my decease out of the avails of my household goods. 3rd, I do hereby give and bequeath to Hannah Richardson my Daughter Two Dollars to be paid her by my Executor after my decease out of the avails of my household goods. 4th, I do hereby give and bequeath to My Son Barak Rudd Six Dollars to be paid by my executor after my decease out of my goods and chattels. 5th, I also do hereby give and bequeath to my four[sic] daughters, Theda, Sarah, Abigail, Lydia and Olive, all and singular my personal goods and chattels, other than such as are disposed of above, to be equally divided among them after my decease; excepting My Loom and its furniture, and My bed, and the bed which is called Olives and the bedding belonging to both, which I do bequeath to my daughter Olive; And also excepting my farming tools & coopers tools, which I do hereby bequeath to my Sons Johnson & Samuel on their paying what is above charged on sd Tools; and also excepting my foot wheel, which I bequeath to my sd Daughter Olive. 6, And I do hereby appoint my Son Silas to be executor to this my last will and testament. In witness whereof I have hereunto set my hand and Seal this 7th day of May A.D. 1800. Increase Rudd Signed Sealed ) Nathl. Wood Jnr. in Presence of ) Sabra Kinne There are several other documents in the file; one is, on 23 Sept. 1804, Theophilus Clark was appointed administrator, as Silas, the executor, had died 19 Feb. 1804. He gave bond with Johnson Rudd as surety. There is another small piece of paper listing a mare at $30 and a cow at $13 and saying, The above Mare & Cow were reserved by Mr. Rudd to his Widow after his decease to be disposed of at her will & pleasure. Have therefore reserved them out of the General Inventory, altho appraised, subject to the order of the Judge. N. Wood, Jr. For the appraisers. There is no date on this paper. Another reference to Bathsheba Rudd is in the Middletown Congregational Church records I quoted from last night: In a list of members, perhaps ca. 1783, is Bathsheba Rudd. Of course, Middletown was not chartered until 1784, out of four other towns, Wells, Tinmouth, Poultney and Ira. I think the church may have been in the section that came off of Wells. Hope this helps to keep Bathsheba as Increase's one and only! Joann Kevin K. Stephenson wrote: > Joann--- > Thanks for the response on Bathsheba...when I got that part of the tree > originally from Celia and added your info to it and what I had, somehow in the > file, I believe in Celia's info, it showed Increase with two wives, one > unidentified. The children were split between the two wives such that Sarah, > Abigail, Lydia, Samuel, and Olive were attributed to the second wife, all with > birth dates in 1772 and after. Bathsheba's children were all born, according to > this same info, in 1767 and before, and included Silas, Deborah, Eunice, Hannah, > Barak, Theedee(Theda, Thedy), and Johnson. Just so I don't screw anything up, > would you and Celia both confirm for me that there was no second wife, and all > of these children were Increase and Bathsheba's?? Thanks! > > Kevin K. Stephenson > 1600 Kentucky St. #2 > Lawrence, Kansas 66044 > (785)865-1586 > Data/Fax: (785)865-2555 > e-mail: [email protected] > website: http://falcon.cc.ukans.edu/~kevin2/homepage.html

Joann--- Thanks for the response on Bathsheba...when I got that part of the tree originally from Celia and added your info to it and what I had, somehow in the file, I believe in Celia's info, it showed Increase with two wives, one unidentified. The children were split between the two wives such that Sarah, Abigail, Lydia, Samuel, and Olive were attributed to the second wife, all with birth dates in 1772 and after. Bathsheba's children were all born, according to this same info, in 1767 and before, and included Silas, Deborah, Eunice, Hannah, Barak, Theedee(Theda, Thedy), and Johnson. Just so I don't screw anything up, would you and Celia both confirm for me that there was no second wife, and all of these children were Increase and Bathsheba's?? Thanks! Kevin K. Stephenson 1600 Kentucky St. #2 Lawrence, Kansas 66044 (785)865-1586 Data/Fax: (785)865-2555 e-mail: [email protected] website: http://falcon.cc.ukans.edu/~kevin2/homepage.html

Hi, Celia, Thank you so much for bringing me up to date on Johnson's family! It is wonderful information. Joann Celia G. Snyder wrote: > Hi R-Gang Cousins, > > Here's what I have on Johnson Rudd/Abigail Brown and children: >

Hi R-Gang Cousins, Here's what I have on Johnson Rudd/Abigail Brown and children: Name: Johnson RUDD --------------------------------------------- Birth: 9 Jul 1769 Norwich, New London, CT Death: ca 1817 Middletown, Rutland, VT Father: Increase Mosely RUDD Sergeant (1734-1802) Mother: Bathsheba JOHNSON (1739-) Misc. Notes Birth Marriage Living in VT in the 1800 and 1810 censuses. Was a Private in Capt. William Hutchin's Company, Colonel Herrick's Regiment of Militia, 1780. He served as a Sergeant of the Company of Militia commanded by Capt. Isaac Tichenor, August 1784 and as Sergeant Colonel in Ebeneezer Wallbridge's Regiment of Militia, October 1781. Johnson may have died unexpectedly as no will has ever been found. He left 8 children, the last one a child of less than 2 years. His estate was declared insolvent; his brother, Barak was the administrator. Barak gave David, the son, a personal note ($200) for the farm. John Brown of Poultney purchased the farm from Barak. No mention of wife, Abigail nor any of the children. Marriage: 19 Jan 1798 Middletown, Rutland, VT --------------------------------------------- Spouse: Abigail BROWN --------------------------------------------- Birth: 29 Aug 1775 NH Death: 1860 Other spouses: John DEPUY Misc. Notes Abigail in 1860 Will County, IL census, living in home of Michael Conlisk and wife, Marie. The will of Michael states he married Maria DePue. Maria was the daughter of Abigail and 2nd husband, John DePuy (son of Benjamin and Elizabeth Swartwout?) >From Marie Hogle's notes: I have not been able to follow her - John Brown of Poultney, married Olive Rudd, sister of Johnson. I believe he is a brother to Abigail. When the Rudd family, including Abigail and her children, moved to Onondaga County, NY after the death of Johnson in Middletown, VT, I find that Abigail married again. I have not found the record of the marriage. But, by him she had one child - Mariah, who married in Ohio, Michael Conlisk. She may have married Benjamin, the father of Sarah DePuy who married Leonard Rudd, but if so, the gravestone of Arena must have the wrong death date. Children --------------------------------------------- 1 M: David P. RUDD Birth: 3 Nov 1798 Middletown, Rutland, VT Death: 24 Aug 1855 St. Louis, MO Spouse: Amy HICKS Marriage: 5 Feb 1818 Syracuse, Onondaga, NY --------------------------------------------- 2 M: Vincent RUDD Birth: ca 1802 Middletown, Rutland, VT --------------------------------------------- 3 M: Leonard RUDD Birth: 3 Jul 1803 Middletown, Rutland, VT Death: 5 Mar 1881 Lodi, Spink, SD Spouse: Sarah DEPUY Marriage: 1822/1825 Lysander, Onondaga, NY --------------------------------------------- 4 F: Olive RUDD Birth: 22 Sep 1805 Middletown, Rutland, VT Death: 1 Mar 1873 Joliet, Will, IL Spouse: Asa McDONALD Marriage: 2 Jul 1822 NY --------------------------------------------- 5 M: Erastus RUDD Birth: ca 1808 Middletown, Rutland, VT Death: 22 Jun 1873 Joliet, Will, IL Spouse: Harriett HILL Marriage: NY --------------------------------------------- 6 F: Clarissa RUDD Birth: 16 Jul 1810 Middletown, Rutland, VT Death: 14 Jun 1877 Pontiac, Livingston Co, IL Spouse: John PIERSON Marriage: 23 Apr 1828 NY --------------------------------------------- 7 M: Barak RUDD Birth: 29 Feb 1812 Middletown, Rutland, VT Death: 12 Oct 1900 Joliet, Will, IL Spouse: Livonia Lydia ATWOOD --------------------------------------------- 8 M: Sanford RUDD Birth: 19 Feb 1816 Middletown, Rutland, VT Spouse: Almira HILL Marriage: 14 Jun 1843 Switzerland Co, IN

Hi Lynn, I'm passing along your request to the Rudd Family Mail List. Lynn is looking for more information on Richard Rudd and his wife Anne and daughter Mary prior to the time they came to Quebec pre-1825 from England. To subscribe to the Rudd Family Mail List, send an email to: [email protected] Leave the 'Subject' blank and put only the following word in the body: subscribe If your program doesn't allow you to leave the 'Subject' blank, just put a space. All the best, Celia

Hi, Cousins, My friend who had done research on a Lucy Rudd/Rexford Wittum sent me the name of her client who was looking for this about 15 years ago. He's not on e-mail so I wrote him a letter today. It's always good to write things out, as I have determined that Lucy could not be a daughter of Johnson. He had two daughters under 10 in 1810, and those would probably be Olive and Clarissa. In May of 1997, Susan Howe and I went to the Community Church in Middletown where they have the old Congregational Church records. I may have posted this info befoe, but here is something relative to Johnson Rudd: Baptisms, Jan. 15th 1809, Abigail, consort to Johnson Rudd, David, Vincent, Leonard, Olive, Erastus, children of Abigail Rudd. On March 7, 1809, Johnson Rudd asked for membership and on the 16th was admitted. Anyway, notice the order the children are listed. I'm wondering if Vincent might have been older than Leonard. I'm also wondering if Clarissa might have been born later than the date these children were baptized. Celia, I think you provided me with dates for Johnson's children, and I got some info from Rudd Branches. Anyone with thoughts on this? Joann

Yes, Kevin, You're right, it could be Bathsheba! If you haven't seen a copy of Increase(4)'s probate, let me say that Bathsheba is mentioned in there. She is also mentioned in the Middletown Congregational Church Records. Increase did not have a second wife. Joann Kevin K. Stephenson wrote: > Celia, Joann, & all: > > 1810 minus 45 years would be 1765...if Abigail's mom was at the bottom end of > 45+, she'd have only been ten when Abigail was born. Not likely, but within a > few years of correct. The high end during that time period would probably be > about 70. If Mom was born in 1740, and she'd have been 35 when Abigail was > born. The range is probably pretty close. > Then again, looking at Johnson's mom, Bathsheba Johnson, she was born in 1739, > and we know Increase died in 1802. Is there any reason to believe it wasn't > her?? Do we know when she died? She'd have been a widow for 8 years at the > time of the 1810 census, and about 71 years old. And what's the story on > Increase's 'other' wife? I show two wives, but no info on #2, and no death date > for Bathsheba Johnson. Am I all messed up? Could it have been one of them?? >

Celia, Joann, & all: 1810 minus 45 years would be 1765...if Abigail's mom was at the bottom end of 45+, she'd have only been ten when Abigail was born. Not likely, but within a few years of correct. The high end during that time period would probably be about 70. If Mom was born in 1740, and she'd have been 35 when Abigail was born. The range is probably pretty close. Then again, looking at Johnson's mom, Bathsheba Johnson, she was born in 1739, and we know Increase died in 1802. Is there any reason to believe it wasn't her?? Do we know when she died? She'd have been a widow for 8 years at the time of the 1810 census, and about 71 years old. And what's the story on Increase's 'other' wife? I show two wives, but no info on #2, and no death date for Bathsheba Johnson. Am I all messed up? Could it have been one of them?? -----Original Message----- From: Celia G. Snyder [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, July 20, 1998 9:59 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: 1810 Middletown, VT census/RUDD >Page 23, Johnson(5) Rudd (married Abigail Brown), three males under 10, >one male 10-16, one male 26-45, two females under 10, one female 26-45, >one female 45+. Could the 45+ female be Abigail's mother? Any >thoughts, Celia, Kevin, Cheryl? Hi Joann, Thanks for this wonderful information! It's possible the 45+ female could be Abigail's mother - too bad they didn't list names, I would LOVE to find out her mother's name. Abigail's parents are a mystery! Thanks again, Celia