Workin' great, Doug! At 9:45 PM -0600 10/27/98, Doug Rudd wrote: >Joann, > >Is my Reply-to better? > >Doug

I am new to the list and wanted to see if anyone is familiar with this family. I have no dates on Nathaniel and Mary, but can guesstimate births at around 1670. They had a daughter Mary RUDD who was born in Norwich, New London Co., CT on 3 Feb 1694. Mary Rudd married Ebenezer Wood. If anyone has further information on Nathaniel's parents or siblings, I would appreciate hearing from you!!!! Thanks, Heidi Email [email protected] URL http://members.tripod.com/~Bizzyboddy/index.htm Heidi Surnames: Abrams/Arthur/Alt/Bales/Barrick/Beverforden/Buzzard/Crawford/Ellis/Friend/Gr oos/Halfaker/ Hinnkampe/Jones/Jonsson/Keller/King/Linebaugh/Magruder/Miller/Peterson/Radab augh/Shultz/Slaybaugh/Spriggs/Throckmorton/ Locations: Jackson, Scioto, Williams Co., Ohio Hardy, Greenbriar WV Fredrick Co., MD Washington Co., VA Adams Co., PA Shelby Co., IL Crawford, Gasconade Co., MO Tom Surnames: Ainsworth/Breest/Brigham/Corbin/Crediford/Forman/Goodsite/Hatch/Hazen/Lee/Ma rcy/Mentz/ Newton/Palmer/Paul/Phillips/Rice/Rospert/Sheppard/Shire/Ward/Wood

Hi, Doug, I'd say there were several errors in the obituary. The 1780 date is what was recorded in Middletown, but since Middletown didn't exist until 1784, I am sure all Silas' children were mostly born elsewhere--maybe Wells, which seems to be where Increase(4) first had property, but recorded in 1785 in Middletown. Anyway, the wrong birth date might have been recorded, I suppose! I'm thinking his daughter, Cynthia, must have been the one who submitted the info. I have put queries on a couple of mail lists regarding what Custom House Service would have meant in VT. Got some interesting answers, but nothing definitive yet. Joann Doug Rudd wrote: > Joann, > > Joann H. Nichols wrote: > > > Rudd--At Colden, March 25th [1872], INCRASE[sic] RUDD, aged 92 years, 4 > > months and 4 days. > > The data I have shows Increase birthdate as January 25, 1780 in Middletown, > Rutland, VT and death on March 24, 1872 in Collins, Erie, NY. Based on the > age stated in the obituary, it would place November 20, 1779. > > Any ideas on the discrepancy? > > Doug

Joann, Joann H. Nichols wrote: > Rudd--At Colden, March 25th [1872], INCRASE[sic] RUDD, aged 92 years, 4 > months and 4 days. The data I have shows Increase birthdate as January 25, 1780 in Middletown, Rutland, VT and death on March 24, 1872 in Collins, Erie, NY. Based on the age stated in the obituary, it would place November 20, 1779. Any ideas on the discrepancy? Doug

The state of Kentucky Secretary of State's website has a searchable database of Revolutionary War Warrents Search which includes GIF images of the actual warrant documents: http://www.sos.state.ky.us/ Celia

Hi all, I just learned about a website of the University of Pennsylvania which provides several searchable databases including an accessible archive of 18th and 19th century newspapers. The home page for the U of Penn library is: http://www.library.upenn.edu/home.html Or, you can go directly to the archives for the newspapers (1728-1800) at: http://204.170.102.11/cgi-bin/accessible/verify.pl Found the following on "Rudd" [Warning- some of the third one is pretty raw]: April 20, 1858 VILLAGE RECORD ITEM #13772 April 20, 1858 VILLAGE RECORD Marriage at Bloomington, by the Ref. E.D. Eddy, on the 25th ult., MICHAEL DUFFY, of West Goshen, Chester county, to LYDIA <<RUDD>>, of Benjaminville, McLean county, Illinois. April 19, 1797 The Pennsylvania Gazette ITEM #81763 April 19, 1797 The Pennsylvania Gazette Philadelphia, April 19. A vessel is arrived at Marblehead from Lisbon, whence she sailed the 1st March. In the account she brings of the capture of 4 Spanish men of war by Admiral Jarvis, it is mentioned, that one of the Spanish Admirals died at Lisbon, having lost both his legs in the action. The Spanish prizes and one of the English three decked ships went into Lisbon under jury masts. The remaining part of the Spanish fleet made every effort to bring the English fleet to action, the day after which the Spaniards captured eight or ten sail of the English Mediterranean fleet. Extract of a letter dated Civita Vecchia, 20th January 1797, to a merchant in this city. "I have the pleasure to communicate to you that peace has lately been effected between Tunis and the United States of America. This intelligence was brought to Naples by an American vessel just arrived there from Tunis, where she had been taken in, and in consequence of the above event was released. "The American vessel lately arrived at Naples from the United States was extremely well received by that Court, and the merchants appear much pleased with the intention the United States have shewn to extend their commerce to that country, and are disposed to make every exertion to encourage and increase that intercourse. Since the blockade which last summer rendered the port of Leghorn of so difficult access to foreign vessels has been raised - the commerce of that place has resumed its former channels with renewed vigour and activity." Extract of a letter from New-York, dated the 11th inst. "This day arrived the American ship Industry, Capt. << Rudd>> , in 31 days from the Downs. She brings London papers to the 7th of March, which contain nothing of importance. In long. 14, she was boarded by a French ship of war, out only 5 days from l'Orient, examined, and allowed to pass." Letters received by the above vessel state that all was tranquil in England on the 7th of March; that the new emission of bank-notes was circulating with the greatest facility; that all aphrehensions of an invasion has ceased - and that, at this important crisis, the people were almost unanimously determined to give every support to the government, which the exigency of their affairs might require. A barn and barracks, in which were horses, calves, and a great variety of valuable utensils, belonging to Mr. John Hardenberg, of Somerset county, New-Jersey, were lately wholly consumed. By what means the fire was communicated to the property, is not known - Some suspicions are entertained that a black servant wilfully committed the deed, in consequence of having been chastised for misdemeanor. The loss is very considerable. The ship Ohio arrived at New-York, on Saturday, in a short passage from Greenock, in Scotland. We learn that the report of the committee appointed to enquire into the state of the Bank of England, had been communicated to the House of commons, that it was highly satisfactory, there being fifteen millions sterling, excess, in bank. The election of Governor and Lieutenant Governor for the state of Massachusetts has terminated in the election of Mr. Sumner to the former, and Mr. Gili to the latter honourable stations. >From the Daily Advertiser. London March 7. Buonaparte, still penetrating farther into Italy, states, in a letter dated from head-quarters at Macereta on the 13th ult. that he hopes to be that evening at Foligne, 69 miles distant from Rome. Of the Treasures of Loretta, the value of which was estimated at 3 millions of livres tournais, only about one million had fallen into his possession. In a subsequent letter, dated from Ancona on the 18th, the same Gen. mentions, that the French troops had gotten possession of Mubria, country of Peragia, and the small province of Canorina. Gen. Colli, according to letters from Rome of the 5th ult. was employing every means to check the progress of the enemy, and had even embodied a part of the felons, in order to augment the army. Letters received yesterday from Castle Douglass mention, that a great firing was heard on Tuesday evening last; supposed to proceed from some engagement at sea, and conjectured to have taken place some where near Whitehaven. Yesterday morning two mails arrived from Lisbon, brought by the King George Packet to Falmouth in 8 days. Thefollowing article is extracted from the journal of that vessel: The St. Trinidada, of 130 guns, was seen the same evening of the action, with the loss of her main mast, and her lowerdeck ports in the water; on the day following our reconnoitring frigates could discover only twenty one sail of theSpanish, it was, therefore, supposed that the St. Trinidada ;must either have been towed away by another line of battleship, or sunk, which was most likely the case. November 9, 1791 The Pennsylvania Gazette ITEM #77915 November 9, 1791 The Pennsylvania Gazette PHILADELPHIA, Nov. 9. Extract of a letter from a Merchant in the Commission Business in Cape Francois, to his correspondence in Philadelphia. "THE odious Droit d'Aubaine has, upon petition of the American Merchants, been unanimously abolished by our General Assembly, the moment after having read our petition. "The quantity of flour and other provisions stored here is immensely great, - very little of what has arrived for seven weeks past has yet been sold. - Send nothing at all to this market until further notice." Extract of a letter from a Captain of a Vessel in Cape Francois, to his Owner in Philadelphia. "I EMBRACE this opportunity of writing to you, with reluctance, because I cannot give you any agreeable information. - This port is extremely overstocked with American produce, particularly Flour - a great quantity of which is in danger of spoiling in the stores; its nominal price is four and one-half to five and one-quarter dollars for best superfine. The fury of the Negroes is for the present abated, nevertheless I can see no end to the unhappy insurrection. Within this week past business begins to revive in regard to exportation, but imports of every kind are, as I before mentioned, a perfect drug." Extract of a letter from Mr. De Caze, aide-de-camp to Mr. DeBlanchelande, Governor of the French port of St. Domingo, to Mr. Gaubert, an inhabitant of the Cape. "Cape-Francois, October 4. "We enjoy much greater tranquillity here for some days past. We have taken those famous Camps of Dagoult, and Galiset, without losing a single man. We did not meet with a vigorous resistance, altho' the enemy discharged five canon shot against us; but they passed over our heads. "We are to go and attack L'Acul and Limbe, and are taking measures for that purpose. A sufficient force is to be sent to Genaives, to prevent the insurgents going to St. Mark's. "No troops have been sent to our assistance from any quarter. On the contrary we have sufficient proofs, that the Spaniards supply the Negroes with ammunition. A letter, found in the Camp of Gallifet, furnishes evidence, that Don Montanegro, commandant of a Spanish town, has made them an offer of ten barrels of gun-powder. He further adds, that they may confidently apply to another commandant, who will furnish them with whatever they may want." Extract of a letter from Mr. Worlock at St. Domingo, to his wife in Philadelphia. "Cape-Francois, October 4. "The situation of the colony is growing better. The open country about the Cape begins to be free. The insurgents have been driven from all their posts in the lower parts: and are obliged to take refuge in different places, whence hunger, wretchedness, discontent, and discord will soon drive them. Several gangs have already either returned to their habitations, or repaired to the different camps of the white men. We hope, that several others will soon follow their example; and that tranquillity will then be re-established. But what a length of time, what labour will it cost, to repair the mischief already done! "The districts of Letrou, Jaquesy, Fort Dauphin and Maribaroux, are quiet, and have received no injury. The case is the same in the southern and western parts of the colony, in consequence of the sacrifices, which the whites have consented to make in favour of the free people of color, who have taken up arms with the whites, and made it a common cause. Within a month, we hope to be all in our own houses." Extract of a letter from Mr. Roux, merchant, of Cape Francois, to Mr. Faures, merchant, and inhabitants of the Cape, October 3, 1791. "I have been a long time with the army. - You know that I am attached to the corps of free Mulattoes, since they took up arms in defence of the common cause. We have been constantly in the field, and are now come back to town for a few days. We have repulsed the insurgents, and destroyed great numbers of them. We took the Camp of Galifet, without losing a single man. In it we found many valuable effects, ammunition, provisions, six pieces of cannon (one of them of brass, with a Spanish inscription, Carolo III. April 19, 1791, and mounted on a carriage of acajou) and several papers, which show that the Spaniards have furnished them with arms, particularly the priests. It is said they are headed by several of those monsters, and by some deserters from the regiment of Port-au-Prince. "Every thing is peaceable about your country seat. M. De Fontanges, and Mr. Dossiguy are there at the head of a body of forces, joined by four hundred Mulattoes from Gonaives, to prevent the Negroes from escaping. The flame has not spread beyond Limbe and Litmonade. Several Negroes have penetrated to Doudou, where they have committed murders and ravages. The other quarters are well-guarded. We pursue those monsters with vigor; and I hope we will soon be able to master them. "we are in no want of wine or flour: as to provisions of other kinds, they are scarce with us; and we have but indifferent fare. But at least we sleep in safety, and are within the town, free from all apprehension. I believe you may venture to return. We shall soon see peace restored; and things are already beginning to return to their former course. "Cash is scarce; we find however a sufficiency of it, to pay for what is indispensably necessary; and for the present, we confine ourselves to that alone. As to pleasure, it is out of the question; our sole object being to pursue vigorously those monsters, who are labouring to ruin the colony. They have done us considerable damage; but they will not succeed in their projects. "I shudder to relate all their excesses. They have carried their barbarity so far, as to fasten men, women and children between boards, and to saw them in two. They butcher the sick or wounded Negroes, who cannot follow them; saying, that, as they are useless, they ought not to be a burden to them. They are spurred on by the desire of plunder, carnage, and conflagration, and not by the spirit of liberty, as some folks pretend. "Some vessels are arrived from Europe: and the American shipping is here pretty numerous. Your house received a number of horses, that had been sold to the Spaniards; but the General Assembly would not suffer them to be delivered: they have been kept for the use of the cavalry. All the Spanish vessels have been stopped, since we had certain proofs of the intercourse with the revolted Negroes. It is yet uncertain what steps are to be taken with respect to them. "The Negroes taken in the camp of Gallifet, assure us, that the generality of the others only wish for an opportunity of escaping; being reduced to an allowance of two Bananas per day." Extract of a letter from Cape Francois to a gentleman in Wilmington, September 26. "Since three days, we have taken two camps of the negroes, and made of them a horrible butchery; and in this same moment that I write you, from the Terret, where I am centinel, three of our armies together attack the principal camp (on the plantation Galist, 6 or 8 miles from the Cape) and I see it broken through in all parts, and the Negroes driven into the mountains, whither our soldiers follow them." In the HOUSE of REPRESENTATIVES of the UNITED STATES, Nov. 7. Mr. Speaker laid before the house certain papers received from the Vice-President, containing an account of the late purchases of the public debt, amounting to 852,677 dollars, 46 cents, for which there had been paid, in specie, 548,924 dollars, 14 cents; making, in the whole, 1,131,364 dollars, 76 cents, purchased for 699,163 dollars, 38 cents in specie. Mr. Thatcher called up a report of the secretary of the department of war, made during the last session, on the petition of Joseph Tucker and others; which report was agreed to. In SENATE, Nov. 7. The report of the trustees of the sinking fund was read, as follows: The vice president of the United States and president of the senate, the chief justice, the secretary of state, the secretary of the treasury, and the attorney-general, respectfully report to the Congress of the U. States of America - That pursuant to the act, intitled, "An act making provision for the reduction of the public debt," and in conformity to two resolutions agreed upon by them, one on the 15th day of January, and another on the 15th of August last, and severally approved by the president of the U. States, they have caused purchases of the said debt to be made through the agency respectively of Samuel Meredith, treasurer of U. States, William Seton, cashier of the bank of N. York, Benjamin Lincoln, collector of the district of Boston and Charleston, and William Heth, collector of the district of Bermuda Hundred, to the amount of 852,677 dollars 46 cents, for which there have been paid 540,924 dollars and 14 cents, in specie, as will more particularly appear by the several documents No. 1 to 8, herewith submitted as part of this report, and which specify the places where, the times when, the prices at which, and the persons of whom the said purchases have been made. That the statements of William Seton and Benjamin Lincoln have not yet passed through the forms of settlement, it appears by the document No. 8, being a certified transcript from the books of the treasury, that the amount of the stock by them respectively reported to have been purchased, has been duly transferred to the said books. That the purchases now and heretofore reported, amount in the whole to 1,131,364 dollars and 76 cents, for which there have been paid 699,163 dollars and 38 cents, in specie. Signed in behalf of the board, JOHN ADAMS. Ordered, That the report and papers therein referred to lie for consideration. APPOINTMENTS. The President of the United States has appointed, by & with the advice and consent of the Senate, the following persons: Thomas Johnson, of Maryland, one of the associate justices of the supreme court, vice John Rutledge, resigned. William Lewis, judge of Pennsylvania, vice Francis Hopkinson, deceased. William Rawle, attorney for the United States in the Pennsylvania district, vice William Lewis, appointed a judge. Matthew Clarkson, marshal of the New York district, vice William Smith, appointed supervisor of said district. John Brookes, marshal of the Massachusetts district, vice Jno. Jackson, appointed inspector of one of the surveys within said district. David Meade Randolph, marshal of the Virginia district, vice Edward Carrington, appointed supervisor of said district. Alexander Campbell, attorney for the U.S. in the Virginia district, vice William Nelson, jun. resigned. Oliver Walcot, comptroller of the treasury, vice Nicholas Eveleigh, deceased. Timothy Pickering, post-master-general, vice Samuel Osgood resigned. Isaac Holmes, collector of the port of Charleston in South Carolina, vice George Abbot Hall, deceased. Josiah Murdaugh, surveyor of the port of Hartford in North Carolina, vice Joshua Skinner, jun. son of Wm. Deceased. INFANTRY. - FIRST REGIMENT. Promoted - Wm. Kersey, Captain; vice M'Curdy, resigned; Robert Thompson, Lieutenant; vice Kersey promoted; Jacob Melcher, Lieutenant; vice Seayres, resigned. Appointed - William H. Harrison, Ensign; vice Thompson, promoted; Hastings Mark, Ensign; vice Heth Promoted; John Van Hoesen Huyck, Ensign; vice Melcher, promoted. Second Regiment. Appointed - James Wilkinson, lieut. Colonel commander; vice Doughty, declined. Promoted - Samuel Newman, Captain, vice Pray, declined; Thomas Huges, Captain, vice Sayles, declined; Jonathan Hatkell, Captain, vice Freeman, declined; Martin Brimmer Sohier, Lieutenant, vice Newman, appointed Captain; John Heth, Lieutenant, vice Rickard, declined; Cornelius Ryman, Lieutenant, vice Higginson, declined; Joseph Dickinson, Lieutenant, vice Huger, declined; Edward Miller, Lieutenant, vice Sherman, resigned. Appointed - John Tillinghast, ensign, vice George Tillinghast, declined; Daniel Tilton, jun. Ensign, vice Gilman, declined; Samuel Andrews, Ensign, vice Pierce declined; John Bird, Ensign, vice Dickinson, appointed Lieutenant; John Sullivan, jun. Ensign, vice Edwards, resigned; John Elliot, surgeon, vice Eustis, declined. ARTILLERY. Appointed - Staats Morris, Lieutenant, vice Ernest, resigned. Andrew Barrett to be supervisor of the district of Delaware, vice Henry Latimer, who has resigned his appointment. The following gentlemen are appointed to the several offices affixed to their names, in the National Bank of the United States, with their salaries, viz. John Kean, Cashier, 2700 dollars George Simpson, 1st Teller, 1500 Gulian McLean, 2d ditto, 1000 Wm. Lawrence, 1st Book-keeper, 1000 John << Rudd>> , 2d do. 800 Philip Enk, Discount Clerk, 750 Edw. Stow, jun. Assist. Clerk, 600 Gust. Risberg, Runner, 600 Committee appointed to report upon Branches of the National Bank, as soon as may be. Mr. Smith, South Carolina, Mr. Wadsworth, Connecticut, Mr. Watson, New York, Mr. Mason, Massachusetts, Mr. Bingham, Pennsylvania.

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Hi, cousins, Had something great in my mail when I returned after a few days away at a genealogical conference. A woman in Erie County looked to see if there was an obit for my Increase Rudd and found one. The only other person I know on the list who is descended from Increase(6) Rudd and Lydia (Cole) is Pat Bounds, Mark's wife. Haven't heard from them lately. Here is the obit: Rudd--At Colden, March 25th [1872], INCRASE[sic] RUDD, aged 92 years, 4 months and 4 days. The deceased was father of Mrs. Wm. Morrison of Glenwood. He was born in Vermont, but has been a resident of Erie County for the last forty years. He lived to see his fifth generation, and was father, grand-father, great-grand-father and great-great-grand-father to 192 children. He remembered well the incidents of the Revolutionary war and was Custom House Officer in the war 1812. Another pioneer of early days is gone. Soon the last of the land-marks of our fore-fathers will be swept away and nothing left but the silent records of the past.--Com. Well, since he was born in 1780, he must have heard about the revolutionary war from his father and grandfather, Silas and Increase(4). Too bad there wasn't a mention of his wife, Lydia (Cole). Interesting that he was living with another child that I didn't know where she had gone. It is Cynthia who married William Morrison. Now I know when he worked for the Custom House Service; I had figured it must be after he moved to Erie County, NY as that is near the lakes and Canada. Can anyone tell me what the Custom House Service might have done during the War of 1812? Had an e-mail from another descendant of Barak(5) today--the son, Maverick. She found my posting on GenForum. I've answered her and invited her to join the Mail List. So, cousins, help me find out who the 192 descendants of my Increase(6) Rudd would be!!!! Joann

Hi, Are there any RUDDs in Iowa?? I am looking for marriage info on my grandparents. My grandmother, Rachel Lorena RUDD, married William David Kemper, in Sioux City, Woodbury Co., Iowa. This marriage would have taken place sometime in 1898 to 1900. Their first child was born in 1900. Any info would be greatly appreciated. Thank you. Arlene

Hi R-Gang Cousins, We need to get some information flowing on this list - been too quiet too long! ;-) I recently purchased the "National Genealogical Society Quarterly, Vols. 1-85, 1600s-1900s" CD from Broderbund. I find the following Rudd references: -Index to Revolutionary War Pension Applications, Supplement I, page 938: Rudd, Andrew, Conn., cont., S80077 Rudd, Archer, Va., S6040 Benjamin, Va. Sea Service, Susan, W5756 Bezabel, N. Y., S10001 Burlingham, N. C., Mary V., W20088; BLWt. 28555-160-55 Daniel, Conn., Navy, Abigail, W22137; BLWt. 7209-160-55 John, Va., S17065 Joseph, Vt., Sarah, W17582 Nathaniel, Conn., S21461 William, Conn., Eunice, S4172 -American Administration and Probate Acts in the P.C.C., 1751-1760, Vol. 65, page 281 - "Prerogative court of Canterbury, 1751-1760": Rudd, Charles, of Piscatus, Maryland, bachelor. Administration to mother Ann Rudd, widow (Sept. 1752) -First Fifty-Two Years of St. Paul's Episcopal Church, Alexandria, Virginia, Vol. 69, page 1: King, Judson m. Ann Rudd in Fairfax Co., 6 Aug. 1822 (C-4) page 128: Rudd, Mary m. Andrew Allen, both of Fairfax Co., 8 Oct. 1822 (C-4) -Some Amelia County, Virginia, Colonists, 1737-1745, Vol. 65, page 1: "Virginia colonists paying for their transportation to the colony and meeting the residency requirement could appear before the Governor and Council or the county court and receive fifty acres for each individual imported. At the county level the court minutes may contain records of these head right claims, records which contain more genealogical data than colony-level land patent books. The following records are abstracted from the first court order book of Amelia County, Virginia. None of the subsequent order books contained such entries. Entries consist of the following information: name(s) of individual claiming head right, date of court record, place of origin, year of arrival in the colony, and (in parentheses) page number of the original record." Rudd, Hannah, 12 Aug. 1737 (32) -Genealogical Gleanings in England: Passengers and Ships to America, 1618-1668, Vol. 72, page 141: Ship: Peter Master: John Rudd Port: London Destination: Virginia Reference: 52/1 Date: 25 Aug 1668 Shipper or passenger: [goods by] James Blatt [goods by] John Batts Date: 28 Aug 1668 [goods by] William White -Covenant - First Presbyterian Church Records, Cincinnati, Vol. 64, page 58: Rudd, Sally, adm. 3 July 1830 -New York city Apprentices, 1686-1804, vol. 71, page 17: Googlet, Henry, app. to Stephen Rudd, house-carpenter. Complaint that master has left NYC and gone to Ireland and neglected to teach his trade. Discharged 7 Feb 1795 -Northern California Bounty Land Grantees Under Acts of 1847-1855, Vol. 71, page 152: Rudd, William, Pvt., Col. Markham's Co., Utah Militia, Utah Indian Dist. Santa Clara Co. and Colusa Co. -Marriage Licenses of the District of Columbia (Continued), Vol. 8, page 29: Rudd, Rich'd A., to Ward, Elizabeth, by I. Robbins, July 26, 1821 -Marriage Records, New London Co., Conn., Vol. 22, page 53: Dec. 16, 1781, Andrew Rudd to Rebecca Penniman, both of Norwich Jan. 29, 1784, Silliom Harris to Elizabeth Rudd, both of Norwich -Kentucky Marriage Records, Jefferson County, 1800 to 1826, Vol. 13, page 5: 1764. Rudd, James, 10. 11. 1821, Nancy Phillips, dau. Thomas Hope there's something here that will help someone! Celia

Joann, Did this one work better? Doug Joann H. Nichols wrote: > Hi, Doug, > Your message didn't seem to print out with Reply To Rudd List. I think you might want > to go into your preferences or properties or options or something like that and take > your name out of the Reply To section. That's what I had to do, and so did Kevin.

Hi, Doug, Great news! So now you know your great grandmother. Did you ever find the date Levi died for sure? I notice you have 1890 in your listing. Your message didn't seem to print out with Reply To Rudd List. I think you might want to go into your preferences or properties or options or something like that and take your name out of the Reply To section. That's what I had to do, and so did Kevin. Thanks for letting me know about Ella Marlette. Joann Doug Rudd wrote: > Joann, > > My sister attend my uncle's 80th birthday party just recently and came away with my > great-grandmother's name, Ella Marlette. If you remember, from my grandfather's > journal, the Marlette family history was there but did not state Ella as William's > wife. > > So here's my updated line. > > Jonathan Rudd (1620-1658) - Mary X > Nathaniel Rudd (1652-1727) - Abigail Hartshorn > Joseph Rudd (1708-1787) - Sarah Hazen Mosely > Increase Moseley Rudd (1734-1802) - Bathshuba Johnson > Silas Rudd (1756-1804) - Phebe Herrick > Levi Rudd (1796-1890) - Olive Brooks > Silas Rudd (1826-1898) - Sarah Collins > William Rudd (1867-?) - Ella Marlette > Charles A. Rudd (1891-1952) - Lucy Ward > William E. Rudd (1927- ) - Maude E. Hoyt > Douglas W. Rudd (1954- ) - Patricia L. Payne > > Joann H. Nichols wrote: > > > Hi, Doug, > > > > Good to hear from you again! Did I ever ask you before--have you ever found an > > obituary for your grandfather who died in 1952? Wouldn't his mother be listed? > > Or was he not sure so his children weren't sure? I seem to remember your saying > > it was something like that? > > > > Joann

Joann, My sister attend my uncle's 80th birthday party just recently and came away with my great-grandmother's name, Ella Marlette. If you remember, from my grandfather's journal, the Marlette family history was there but did not state Ella as William's wife. So here's my updated line. Jonathan Rudd (1620-1658) - Mary X Nathaniel Rudd (1652-1727) - Abigail Hartshorn Joseph Rudd (1708-1787) - Sarah Hazen Mosely Increase Moseley Rudd (1734-1802) - Bathshuba Johnson Silas Rudd (1756-1804) - Phebe Herrick Levi Rudd (1796-1890) - Olive Brooks Silas Rudd (1826-1898) - Sarah Collins William Rudd (1867-?) - Ella Marlette Charles A. Rudd (1891-1952) - Lucy Ward William E. Rudd (1927- ) - Maude E. Hoyt Douglas W. Rudd (1954- ) - Patricia L. Payne Joann H. Nichols wrote: > Hi, Doug, > > Good to hear from you again! Did I ever ask you before--have you ever found an > obituary for your grandfather who died in 1952? Wouldn't his mother be listed? > Or was he not sure so his children weren't sure? I seem to remember your saying > it was something like that? > > Joann

In reading over Doug's message this morning, I realize I got Joel confused with his younger brother, Levi. It was Levi who was still living in 1883 and who had served in the War of 1812. Sorry! Joann

Hi cousins! Since Barak and Livonia are in my direct line, I have their death certificates, and I have visited their graves in the Mound Cemetery in Joliet, I will share everything I have, confirmed, with regard to them and their children. Barak was born February 29, 1812 in Middletown, Rutland Co., Vermont. He was the second youngest of Johnson Rudd and Abigail Brown's kids, being only older than Sanford. He moved to Joliet, Illinois in 1837, presumably with several others of Johnson's children, and settled at what was then known as the "Five Mile Grove" near Manhattan Illinois, on the New Lenox Road(within a few miles of Joliet). Their farm has also been referred to as the "Gilkerson Farm". Barak and Erastus Rudd owned land adjoining each other just south of the New Lenox Road, and I have copies of land deeds for them, as well as for Alexander and Rositer Rudd. Mound Cemetery, which is located just south of the intersection of New Lenox Road and Farrell Road, is where they are buried. Barak died Oct. 12, 1900 of acute hepatitis complicated by old age. Livonia Lydia Atwood Rudd, his wife, died February 15, 1904, of a gall duct obstruction. The Mound Cemetery was also known as Higinbotham Cemetery, Thompson Cemetery, and Rudd Cemetery. Rositer was the caretaker of the cemetery for many years. Barak, Livonia, Rositer, Alexander, Amy Rudd Barringer Pimm, Charles A. Rudd, and Sophronia Rudd Maxson are all buried at Mound Cemetery. Interestingly enough, I remember seeing just recently something about a Rudd married to a Higinbotham. The Higinbotham's originally owned the land where the cemetery is, and they had an enormous mansion right next to it. Barak and Livonia's children: Evalvella L. Rudd, no birth or death dates, married a Williams, had one known son, Marion H. Williams. Amy Rudd, born 1836 (same date Milton shows for Emma), probably born in New York, married twice, first husband Tim Barringer, born Joliet Illinois; second husband, last name Pimm, other info unknown. I believe Amy and Emma to be the same person, Emma possibly being a middle name. William Henry Rudd, born March 16, 1839, Will County, Illinois, died 1931, Chula, Livingston Co., MO (this info from Milton). Married twice, first wife Rachel Pridemore; second wife, Elidia Ann Hayden (m. 1862). Alonzo Eugene Rudd, born July 2, 1841, Will County, Illinois, died June 2, 1913, Wichita, Sedgwick County, KS. Married Charlotte Amanda Empie September 9, 1866, Grundy, Illinois. Two children: (1)Arthur Eugene Rudd, born November 10, 1868, Joliet, Will County, Illinois, married Berneicia Catherine Ralstin November 23, 1892, Wichita, Sedgwick County, KS, died August 20, 1951, Dodge City, Ford County, KS.(2) Ella Mae Rudd, born April 22, 1882, Haysville, Sedgwick County, KS, married McKee Welsh, date unknown, died April 4, 1950, Kansas City, MO. Charles Adelbert Rudd, born February 3, 1843, Joliet, Will County, Ill., married Almeda Knight April 14, 1871, Joliet, Will County, Ill., died Spring Lake Texas, exact date unknown, believe 1920's. Adelia Rudd, born Sept. 18, 1843, Joliet, Will County, Illinois(note closeness of date to Charles--some sources show Charles as born in 1847, but his obit says 1843). Married George Albert Parrent, date unknown, died December 13, 1902, Joliet, Will County, Illinois. Also married to (order unknown) Parret Dau Beatrice Dumyahn, no other information. Sophronia Ameria Rudd, born 1848, married to a Maxson, no data available on him, her date of death unknown, but available at Mound Cemetery. I have pictures of some of these folks. Cheryl Cretin, Celia, Joann, and I talked about the Vincent Rudd problem some time ago, and didn't really get it resolved. I agree with Doug that the two entries in the 1860 Census are duplicates, and he and Joann are correct as to Livonia's age. Hope this helps! Kevin K. Stephenson 1600 Kentucky St. #2 Lawrence, KS 66044 (785)865-1586 Data/Fax:(785)865-2555 e-mail: [email protected] website: http://falcon.cc.ukans.edu/~kevin2/homepage.html

My comments below: >> For Leonard Rudd and Sarah Depuy, he shows their son Alexander J. >>Rudd's wife >> as Mary (born 1827), and A.J. and Mary with a son Charles (born 1854). >>He also >> shows Leonard and Sarah with a daughter Maria(born 1825). I believe the Maria mentioned above may be Maria DePuy, supposedly the daughter of Abigail Rudd and her second husband, John DePuy (first husband - Johnson Rudd). Maria married Michael Conlisk. To further complicate things, after Maria's death, Michael Conlisk married the widow of Horace DePuy. Horace was the brother of Sarah DePuy Rudd - the widow's maiden name was Caroline Mitchell of Onondaga County, NY. Alexander J. Rudd and Mary had no children, but they raised an orphan, Emma, who never married and also, Charley Cahoe, who was a barber in Gilman, IL. Celia

Joann, I show Livonia's birth date as February 09, 1818. Doug Joann H. Nichols wrote: > Hi, cousins, especially Kevin, > > Kevin, I'm sure you've told me the children of your Barak and Livonia > (Atwood) Rudd, but would you tell me ONE more time! > > We may have discussed this census I copied some time ago: 1850, Joliet, > Will Co., IL: taken Oct. 2, 1850: > 95/99 B. Rudd 37 M Farmer 1000 VT > Levina Rudd 25 F VT [is > this age correct?] > Wm. 11 M IL > sch. > Amy 14 F NY > sch. > Alonzo 8 M IL > sch. > Adelia 6 F > IL sch. > Charles 5 M IL > Sophronia 2 F IL > Marcus Atwood 16 M NY > > I am questioning Amy--is she the daughter Milton lists as Emma? This > could only be Livonia's daughter if Livonia's age is wrong in this > census. In fact, it would be sort of a feat to have William be her son! > > Hope this isn't too confusing! I told Cheryl that perhaps Amy was a > missing daughter of Vincent, but that was considering Livonia's age as > being correct. > > Thanks, Joann

Sorry the 1850 and 1860 census listings look so disorganized; guess using the tab must do it. They look all right when I type them, but when they come through, YUKKKKK! Joann

Kevin, Kevin K. Stephenson wrote: > Hi cousins-- > I just received some correspondence from Milton Rudd of Fernley, Nevada, the > gentleman Joann put me in touch with. He sent me a fair amount of information > on the descendants of William Rudd, Alonzo's brother. He also has a few pieces > of information from on up the line that I wanted to share, in the hopes that > they would provide new leads for us on filling in the gaps. > He shows for Silas Rudd, son of Increase and Phebe Herrick, a son named Silas > Rudd (1776-1856), who had two wives, Almina and Nancy Ann. I don't believe we > had his death date, or the names of his wives. He also shows Joel Rudd's death > date as 1856(younger Silas' brother). I have Silas Rudd, b. Nov 16, 1786, d. Dec 6, 1856 in Burritt, Winebago, IL wife 1 - Almina ? children - Chapman Rudd wife 2 - Nancy Ann HILL I have the following for Joel M Rudd: 1 [2] Joel M Rudd b: February 07, 1795 in Middletown, Rutland, VT d: February 25, 1856 in Burritt, Winebago, IL .. +Miranda Palmer b: March 04, 1797 in Easton, Washington, NY m: Bef. 1819 in Hamburg, Erie Co, NY d: Bef. 1842 in Hamburg, Erie Co, NY *2nd Wife of [2] Joel M Rudd: .. +Mary Caroline Estee b: February 04, 1807 in Salem, Columbia, NY m: Abt. 1842 in Salem, Columbia, NY d: February 17, 1874 in Burritt, Winebago, IL I also have at least 5 generations of descendants. > He shows a Johnson Rudd(1821-1855), son of David Rudd and Amy Hicks, with a > wife named Jane (1825-1856), a second wife named Hanna Walker, and four > children, Decoursey Rudd(1838-1874), Theodore Rudd(1840--1850/60), David > Rudd(1848-1921), and Harry Lemartine Rudd(1852-1854). Descendants of Johnson RUDD 1 [1] Johnson RUDD b: 1821 in NY d: August 16, 1855 in New Orleans .. +Jane b: 1825 in England d: May 25, 1855 in New Orleans ....... 2 David F. RUDD b: June 13, 1848 in Keokuk, IA d: December 29, 1921 in Lenora, OK ....... 2 Harry Lemartine RUDD b: June 02, 1852 d: July 23, 1854 *2nd Wife of [1] Johnson RUDD: .. +Hannah WALKER m: September 17, 1837 in Switzerland Co, IN ....... 2 Decourcey (Dick) J. RUDD b: 1838 in Patriot, Switzerland Co, IN d: January 28, 1874 in Beatrice, NB ....... 2 Theodore RUDD b: 1840 in IN d: 1840-1860 in Keokuk, IA I also have 4 generation of descendants for David F. Rudd > For Leonard Rudd and Sarah Depuy, he shows their son Alexander J. Rudd's wife > as Mary (born 1827), and A.J. and Mary with a son Charles (born 1854). He also > shows Leonard and Sarah with a daughter Maria(born 1825). > For Erastus Rudd and Harriet Hill, he shows their son David Rudd with a wife > named Sarah(born 1840), and their children, Otus(born 1860), James(born 1866), > Milton(born 1868), Isabell(born 1870), Sandford(born 1872), Elias(born 1874), > and Peter(born 1879). I show Sarah maiden name as Depuy. > For Rossiter Rudd(born 1842) he shows wife Julia(born 1840)(possibly a middle > or nickname for Jane Gregg), and that their son Mansfield's middle initial was > J. I show Rossiter Rudd b. Nov 3, 1840 > According to Milton, Alonzo's brother's full name was William Henry > Rudd(1839-1931). William had two wives, Rachel Pridemore and Elidia Ann > Hayden(1841-1896). They had the following children: with 1st wife--Myrtle > Rudd, Grace Rudd(born 1891), with 2nd wife--Elmer Ulesus Rudd(1865-1939), Marion > Alberta Rudd(1863-1890), Clark Wilber Rudd(1870-1896), Jason Victor > Rudd(1873-1937), Alfred Barak Rudd(1879-1896), and Paul Vivian Rudd(born 1875). > For Lydia Rudd(born 1776), Milton shows her husband, Pitman Barker(born 1772). I show Pitman Barker b. July 5, 1772, d 1832. > I'm going to be sending Milton a copy of a picture of the Rudd > Brothers(William, Charles, and Alonzo) that I have posted on my website, and I > will try to get a .gedcom file from him. If he's willing to send me one, and if > it has more detailed information in it, I'll furnish it to whoever wants a copy. > I have the correspondence files almost done and ready to post. I'll let you > know when they're up, so those of you who haven't been with us that long can > access the information we shared early on. > > Kevin K. Stephenson > 1600 Kentucky St. #2 > Lawrence, KS 66044 > (785)865-1586 > Data/Fax:(785)865-2555 > e-mail: [email protected] > website: http://falcon.cc.ukans.edu/~kevin2/homepage.html

Hi, cousins, Following up on my message on the 1850 census, I looked at info I had copied back on March 25, 1997 on Rudds in the above 1860 census. Here are a couple interesting listings: p. 590 2607/2548 Benjamini Rudd 48 M Farmer 4000 1500 VT Leonora 41 F NH Emma 24 F NY Wm 21 M IL sch Alonzo 19 M IL sch Delia 16 F IL sch Charles 14 M IL sch Sophronia 12 F IL sch p. 599 2678/2619 Barak Rudd 45 M Farmer 5000 800 VT Livona 40 F NH Emma 24 F Help NY Wm 21 M Farmer IL Alonzo 18 M IL sch Adelia 17 F IL sch Charles 13 M IL sch Sophronia 11 F IL sch Both seem to be the same family, wouldn't you think? The Benjamin listing was taken on July 16, 1860 and the Barak listing was taken on July 18, 1860. Benjamin's listing was right after Michael Conlisk (Abigail Rudd, age 85, Lady, was in this household). Barak's listing was right after Sanford Rudd's listing. Anyway, guess Livonia's age was wrong in the 1850 census, and that Amy/Emma does belong to Barak and Livonia! Joann