Hi, Cousins, I have received a letter from a friend who is the Historian for the Vermont Mayflower Society. Someone is trying to join the Mayflower Society through the above line. I know some of you are descended from this line, but I can't seem to remember who. Would you let me know? My friend is trying to prove the ancestry of Experience; supposedly her parents were Randall Wheeler and Experience Alden. Do any of you have primary evidence of Experience Wheeler's birth? I gather that Experience Alden was a descendant of John Alden which would make descendants eligible to be part of the Mayflower Society. Thanks for your help, Joann Nichols [email protected]

Hi Van, You're correct - Rogue Valley Genealogical Society. I believe it's in Medford, OR, or near there anyway. That's where I obtained all the documents on the Rudds. There is supposed to be more, I'm not sure if it's Rudd stuff or other family names. I need to get back with them regarding the missing page in one of the documents as well as ask about the additional info. Celia At 10:31 AM -0500 10/30/98, [email protected] wrote: >Hi Cousins, >I must say, I am amazed at all the Oregon connections on this (primarily) New >England lineage! >One old immigrant to the Roseburg area, a bunch of information from the Rogue >Valley (am I correct in assuming this is the Rogue Valley in Oregon?), and now >a member in Bend, OR... >I am from Klamath Falls, OR and my parents are still there. I fully agree with >you Didi, it is really beautiful there. >However, as I've said before I am from a Southern line of Rudd's. I missed >that last roll call, so I'll have to repost it when I get back home (I'm >wasting time at work!) > >Regards, >--Van Rudd >Ann Arbor, MI > >--------------------------The following was sent in previous >messages------------------------------ >[email protected] (BROWN) wrote: >> ......HENRY JONES (IN MI, I THINK) AND THEN MOVED TO DOUGLAS CO., >> OREGON (1854). > >[email protected] (Joann H. Nichols) wrote: >Rudd Branches is one of the manuscripts Celia got from the Rogue Valley >Genealogical Society; > >[email protected] (Didi) wrote: >> I now live in Bend, Oregon ( 3 weeks now , its so pretty here ). ------------------------------------------------------------------- Celia G. Snyder, Graduate Programs Coordinator (mailto:[email protected]) Dept. of Mech. and Indus. Engr., University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign 140 Mechanical Engineering Building (MC-244), 1206 West Green Street, Urbana, IL 61801 UIUC WEB SITES RELATED TO GRADUATE SCHOOL: UIUC: http://www.uiuc.edu Mechanical and Industrial Engineering: http://www.mie.uiuc.edu Graduate College: http://www.grad.uiuc.edu M&IE Graduate Program Information: http://www.mie.uiuc.edu/academic-programs/graduate/grad.html Financial Aid: http://www.grad.uiuc.edu/financial_aid Off-Campus Housing: http://www.news-gazette.com/

Hi, Doug, Kathy, and other cousins, According to Rudd Branches, which may or may not be right, Maverick (they have his name spelled Maveriah/Mervieh) was b. 28 Aug. 1796, in Middletown, VT, no death date, m. 14 Oct. 1819, VT to Maria/Marie Linsley (I have it as Lindsay) who was b. 1802 in NH. Children are listed as Harry/Henry Linsley Rudd, b. 21 June 1821, VT, d. 7 Aug. 1892, OR, m. 13 Nov. 1847 to Lydia Morrison who was b. 29 Jan. 1828, NH; James L. Rudd, b. 2 Dec. 1824, VT, d. 28 May 1908, MI, m. 29 Dec. 1853 Abigail Jones, b. 6 Jan. 1828, OH, d. 18 Jun ???, MI; Mary J. Rudd, b. 1827, NY, m. Henry Jones; Martha Ann Rudd, b. 1836 MI, d. Feb. 1853; Amelia Rudd, b. 1838 MI, m. ---- Whited. Rudd Branches is one of the manuscripts Celia got from the Rogue Valley Genealogical Society; it was compiled and edited by Thomas L. Clark, Jr. and is great for clues to follow lines. Anyone who doesn't yet have a copy of this, I bet Celia would photocopy hers for you--send money for photocopying and postage. Joann Doug Rudd wrote: > Joann, > > Do you have children other than Harry and James for Maverick? > > And Kathy, > > Do you have a date of death for Maverick? > > Doug > > Joann H. Nichols wrote: > > > Hi, Kathy, > > > > Maverick Rudd was born 28 August 1796 in Middletown, Rutland Co., VT, son of > > Barak Rudd and Abigail (Mahurin). I'm getting together some things to mail > > to you. Probably be the first of next week now! > > > > Joann > > > > BROWN wrote: > > > > > I'M NOT SURE. I ONLY KNOW ABOUT A DAUGHTER, MARY J. (b. Feb 1830 NY), WHO > > > MARRIED > > > HENRY JONES (IN MI, I THINK) AND THEN MOVED TO DOUGLAS CO., OREGON > > > (1854). > > > > > > FUNNY THING IS, HIS GRAVESTONE SAYS HIS NAME WAS > > > "MARVERICK RUDD". SO EITHER THE ENGRAVER MESSED UP, OR I'M ON THE WRONG > > > TRACK, BUT THE FAMILY ALWAYS SPOKE OF HIM AS > > > "MAVERICK". > > > > > > At 06:16 PM 10/29/98 -0600, you wrote: > > > >Kathy, > > > > > > > >Was Maverick born August 28, 1796 and have sons Harry and James? > > > > > > > >Doug Rudd > > > > > > > >BROWN wrote: > > > > > > > >> My husband is a decendent of MAVERICK RUDD. I am new to the list, > > > >> so if anyone else is a decendent of MAVERICK'S, please let me know. > > > >> Kathy Brown > > > >> > > > >> [email protected] > > > > > > > > > > > >

Hi, Didi, It was a custom, in New England anyway, to warn out newcomers so they would know that if they couldn't make it, the town wouldn't be responsible for them. It ended in VT about 1817. Many times families stayed and became valuable citizens of the community. Don't think Eunice was that lucky! There's an item in the Middletown Baptist Church records that she was accused of drinking and of slandering a brother (in the church). It was okay for brothers to bring charges against sisters, but not vice versa, I guess! When Eunice's husband, Zimri Warner died, she was left with five children between the ages of eight years and four months old. I don't blame her for being a bit distraught! When she got her dower or thirds of the property, it was only for during her lifetime. Times were tough back then. I hope now to pursue Elijah Scott through census records--maybe he lived until 1850--that would be great if I could find him then with the names of people in his household. Can't think of anything new on your Warner problem. But bet it turns up sometime! Joann Didi wrote: > Hi Joann, > This is Didi Bush.... and WOW.... she must of been bad...~smile~.. What kind > of community was this again... Church etc.... ??? > I still have not found out much on my Edward Warner Rudd... > I have Moved... so my new Email is [email protected] > I now live in Bend, Oregon ( 3 weeks now , its so pretty here )... so as > soon as I can... I am going straight to the family history center and > ordering what I can...hahaha....I know there has to be a connection > somewhere...~smile~ Well here is my line again... in case there are > newcomers.....I know its not much but its a start.... > > Richard Girdon Rudd.... born... New York ? about 1850-60 .. He married a > Margurite Robinson....They had a son.... Edward Warner Rudd....b. 10 June > 1881... New York City , New York...they also had two daughters Daisy and > Sophie... and a Son Richard Girdon Rudd Jr.... who named his son Girdon > Rudd...( I have found him in Long Island , New York) > > Joann I did recieve Edward Warner Rudds , Social Security app....It did tell > me where he was born... and the parents name's... which I have... it was > nice to have for it was inhis own writing..~smile~ > > Thanks for all you do~smile~ > Didi France Bush > Bend, Oregon

Hi Cousins, I must say, I am amazed at all the Oregon connections on this (primarily) New England lineage! One old immigrant to the Roseburg area, a bunch of information from the Rogue Valley (am I correct in assuming this is the Rogue Valley in Oregon?), and now a member in Bend, OR... I am from Klamath Falls, OR and my parents are still there. I fully agree with you Didi, it is really beautiful there. However, as I've said before I am from a Southern line of Rudd's. I missed that last roll call, so I'll have to repost it when I get back home (I'm wasting time at work!) Regards, --Van Rudd Ann Arbor, MI --------------------------The following was sent in previous messages------------------------------ [email protected] (BROWN) wrote: > ......HENRY JONES (IN MI, I THINK) AND THEN MOVED TO DOUGLAS CO., > OREGON (1854). [email protected] (Joann H. Nichols) wrote: Rudd Branches is one of the manuscripts Celia got from the Rogue Valley Genealogical Society; [email protected] (Didi) wrote: > I now live in Bend, Oregon ( 3 weeks now , its so pretty here ).

Hi Joann, This is Didi Bush.... and WOW.... she must of been bad...~smile~.. What kind of community was this again... Church etc.... ??? I still have not found out much on my Edward Warner Rudd... I have Moved... so my new Email is [email protected] I now live in Bend, Oregon ( 3 weeks now , its so pretty here )... so as soon as I can... I am going straight to the family history center and ordering what I can...hahaha....I know there has to be a connection somewhere...~smile~ Well here is my line again... in case there are newcomers.....I know its not much but its a start.... Richard Girdon Rudd.... born... New York ? about 1850-60 .. He married a Margurite Robinson....They had a son.... Edward Warner Rudd....b. 10 June 1881... New York City , New York...they also had two daughters Daisy and Sophie... and a Son Richard Girdon Rudd Jr.... who named his son Girdon Rudd...( I have found him in Long Island , New York) Joann I did recieve Edward Warner Rudds , Social Security app....It did tell me where he was born... and the parents name's... which I have... it was nice to have for it was inhis own writing..~smile~ Thanks for all you do~smile~ Didi France Bush Bend, Oregon

Joann, Do you have children other than Harry and James for Maverick? And Kathy, Do you have a date of death for Maverick? Doug Joann H. Nichols wrote: > Hi, Kathy, > > Maverick Rudd was born 28 August 1796 in Middletown, Rutland Co., VT, son of > Barak Rudd and Abigail (Mahurin). I'm getting together some things to mail > to you. Probably be the first of next week now! > > Joann > > BROWN wrote: > > > I'M NOT SURE. I ONLY KNOW ABOUT A DAUGHTER, MARY J. (b. Feb 1830 NY), WHO > > MARRIED > > HENRY JONES (IN MI, I THINK) AND THEN MOVED TO DOUGLAS CO., OREGON > > (1854). > > > > FUNNY THING IS, HIS GRAVESTONE SAYS HIS NAME WAS > > "MARVERICK RUDD". SO EITHER THE ENGRAVER MESSED UP, OR I'M ON THE WRONG > > TRACK, BUT THE FAMILY ALWAYS SPOKE OF HIM AS > > "MAVERICK". > > > > At 06:16 PM 10/29/98 -0600, you wrote: > > >Kathy, > > > > > >Was Maverick born August 28, 1796 and have sons Harry and James? > > > > > >Doug Rudd > > > > > >BROWN wrote: > > > > > >> My husband is a decendent of MAVERICK RUDD. I am new to the list, > > >> so if anyone else is a decendent of MAVERICK'S, please let me know. > > >> Kathy Brown > > >> > > >> [email protected] > > > > > > > > >

Hi, Kathy, Maverick Rudd was born 28 August 1796 in Middletown, Rutland Co., VT, son of Barak Rudd and Abigail (Mahurin). I'm getting together some things to mail to you. Probably be the first of next week now! Joann BROWN wrote: > I'M NOT SURE. I ONLY KNOW ABOUT A DAUGHTER, MARY J. (b. Feb 1830 NY), WHO > MARRIED > HENRY JONES (IN MI, I THINK) AND THEN MOVED TO DOUGLAS CO., OREGON > (1854). > > FUNNY THING IS, HIS GRAVESTONE SAYS HIS NAME WAS > "MARVERICK RUDD". SO EITHER THE ENGRAVER MESSED UP, OR I'M ON THE WRONG > TRACK, BUT THE FAMILY ALWAYS SPOKE OF HIM AS > "MAVERICK". > > At 06:16 PM 10/29/98 -0600, you wrote: > >Kathy, > > > >Was Maverick born August 28, 1796 and have sons Harry and James? > > > >Doug Rudd > > > >BROWN wrote: > > > >> My husband is a decendent of MAVERICK RUDD. I am new to the list, > >> so if anyone else is a decendent of MAVERICK'S, please let me know. > >> Kathy Brown > >> > >> [email protected] > > > > > >

I'M NOT SURE. I ONLY KNOW ABOUT A DAUGHTER, MARY J. (b. Feb 1830 NY), WHO MARRIED HENRY JONES (IN MI, I THINK) AND THEN MOVED TO DOUGLAS CO., OREGON (1854). FUNNY THING IS, HIS GRAVESTONE SAYS HIS NAME WAS "MARVERICK RUDD". SO EITHER THE ENGRAVER MESSED UP, OR I'M ON THE WRONG TRACK, BUT THE FAMILY ALWAYS SPOKE OF HIM AS "MAVERICK". At 06:16 PM 10/29/98 -0600, you wrote: >Kathy, > >Was Maverick born August 28, 1796 and have sons Harry and James? > >Doug Rudd > >BROWN wrote: > >> My husband is a decendent of MAVERICK RUDD. I am new to the list, >> so if anyone else is a decendent of MAVERICK'S, please let me know. >> Kathy Brown >> >> [email protected] > > >

My husband is a decendent of MAVERICK RUDD. I am new to the list, so if anyone else is a decendent of MAVERICK'S, please let me know. Kathy Brown [email protected]

Kathy, Was Maverick born August 28, 1796 and have sons Harry and James? Doug Rudd BROWN wrote: > My husband is a decendent of MAVERICK RUDD. I am new to the list, > so if anyone else is a decendent of MAVERICK'S, please let me know. > Kathy Brown > > [email protected]

Eunice is a daughter of Silas and Phebe (HERRICK) Rudd. She was married to Zimri Warner 24 June 1801, Middletown, Rutland Co., VT (MVR). He appears to have died prior to 3 April 1811 when an estate was opened for him in the Rutland District Probate Court. On 8 July 1811, Eunice was appointed guardian of five children, from 8 years to 4 months old. The children are (not known if this is age order): Nathan, Jerusha, Lucretia, Ester, Chloe. Vital records for Middletown shows Lucretia marrying Cyrus Gates, 4 Sept. 1825, in Middletown. In the Middletown Baptist Church records I learned that Eunice probably remarried to a Scott, but hadn't been able to find the first name of her husband. Today I believe I discovered who he was. In looking through Vol. 2 of Vermont Warnings Out, I found the following: All Rutland Co., VT towns: Warned out of Ira, p. 451, 13 Mar. 1810, Warner, Zimris[?], wife Eunice and family. Warned out of Tinmouth, p. 116, 3 Jan. 1812, Scott, Elijah. Warned out of Middletown, p. 139, 30 Oct. 1813, Scott, [blank] and his family. Warned out of Rutland, p. 43, 9 Nov. 1813, Scott, Elijah and wife. Warned out of Ira, p. 500, 10 Oct. 1815, Scott, Elijah, wife Eunice and family. Golly, guess no one wanted them! If anyone recognizes any of these people, please contact me. Joann Nichols [email protected]

Hi, Vera, Thanks for your message--guess I didn't go far enough on Doug Bingham's page; I think it probably came from the Ancestry File (or whatever it's called) that the LDS has. According to Increase(6) Rudd's obit, he was a Custom House Officer[!!!] in the War of 1812. At that time he was living in the Middletown, Rutland Co., VT area. He died in 1872 and it said he had lived in Erie Co., NY for 40 years. That would mean he went out there in 1832. I doubt that as he had kids getting married back here in Rutland Co. into the middle 1830s. I've never found him in 1840. In 1850 he's living with a kid, in 1855, he's living with a kid, in 1860, 1865, and 1870 he's living with a kid. What a bugger! Joann [email protected] wrote: > Hi Joann, > I just jumped to Doug Bingham's web site, and he does list a disclaimer > re;Mary Metcalf. Perhaps to invite the same speculation we share? There's at > least three discrepancies that he acknowledges with his information. > > Also what more can we find out about the Custom House? Erie County, NY is > just an hour away for me, one only needs to point me in the right direction. > Perhaps we've all heard of Buffalo NY? If that is the correct County and > State, then the Custom House was of grave importance during the War of 1812. > The Great Lakes region was very involved in that struggle. Of course if it > was a county in Vermont--I'm all wet. Let me know. > > Vera Mae

Hi Joann, I just jumped to Doug Bingham's web site, and he does list a disclaimer re;Mary Metcalf. Perhaps to invite the same speculation we share? There's at least three discrepancies that he acknowledges with his information. Also what more can we find out about the Custom House? Erie County, NY is just an hour away for me, one only needs to point me in the right direction. Perhaps we've all heard of Buffalo NY? If that is the correct County and State, then the Custom House was of grave importance during the War of 1812. The Great Lakes region was very involved in that struggle. Of course if it was a county in Vermont--I'm all wet. Let me know. Vera Mae

Hi, Heidi, I checked the URL and notice that the wife of Jonathan is listed as Mary Metcalf. NOT TRUE! Earlier we have discussed this on the list, but I guess Doug Bingham hasn't updated his page yet. Several women have been discussed as the possible wife of Jonathan, but none have been able to be proved. I don't remember who Mary Metcalf married, but it wasn't Jonathan Rudd. Joann Heidi Goodsite wrote: > Hi, Gerry!! Thanks so much!! THIS IS A MATCH!!! You are sweet fro > sending it.....Heidi > > ---------- > > From: [email protected] > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: RUDD-D Digest V98 #102 > > Date: Wednesday, October 28, 1998 3:19 PM > > > > Heidi > > Try this > > http://www.gendex.com/users/dkbing/Bingham/d0002/g0000063.html#I1210 > > Gerry

Hi, Gerry!! Thanks so much!! THIS IS A MATCH!!! You are sweet fro sending it.....Heidi ---------- > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: RUDD-D Digest V98 #102 > Date: Wednesday, October 28, 1998 3:19 PM > > Heidi > Try this > http://www.gendex.com/users/dkbing/Bingham/d0002/g0000063.html#I1210 > Gerry

Heidi Try this http://www.gendex.com/users/dkbing/Bingham/d0002/g0000063.html#I1210 Gerry

Joann, Joann H. Nichols wrote: > As long as I'm on here, I'll ask you. Did you ever find a real death > date for Levi? Not yet. I'm hoping to have some time around Thanksgiving. Doug

Joann, Is my Reply-to better? Doug

Hey, Doug, You did it! You must have followed my instructions to the letter! As long as I'm on here, I'll ask you. Did you ever find a real death date for Levi? Joann Doug Rudd wrote: > Joann, > > Is my Reply-to better? > > Doug