Hello, and mea culpa. My apologies to Elizabeth and all, especially for the word 'confused' <gr>. The Moravians should indeed be excepted from the list of religious subsets commonly referred to as 'Dunkards'. With a more careful reading of various things, I realized that scanning texts can be dangerous.... as in 'a little knowledge' :-)). I was the one confused. Because the Moravians and the other groups of the German Baptist movement interacted so often (and then blew apart <gr> just as often) in Europe and America, I had assumed they were sects of the same group. But the Moravians were indeed different from the beginning. And because of their beliefs, they were not 'Dunkards', even under the broadest 'outsider's epithet' usage. The Church of the Brethren site graciously included information on the Moravians, because of their similar histories and problems on two continents, and undoubtedly BECAUSE history/genealogy buffs have often conflated them. But I did not read this specific section carefully enough. I have now. Thanks, Elizabeth Linda