Dear Cousin Saunders, If you are descended from a Kemper of early Virginia, then you and I are distant cousins, no doubt. If you are interested in contributing material for the unrecognized Germanna colonists which you list in your recent message, will you correspond with Sgt. George, the webmaster of the Germanna colonies list? The rootsweb message board has not been too lively lately. I think I have sent some information today about various Germanna websites to a newly discovered cousin, who posted her queries on the Rowan Co. list. I don't know Sgt. George's immediate e-mail address, but he shows up frequently in the messages. The Kemper family of colonial Virginia [not Pennsylvania] are my ancestors, and they were part of the First Germanna Colony in 1714. They did not stay long with Gov. Spotswood, and he was forced to import others, from a different part of Germany, and they are called the Second Colony. As I understand from John Blankenbaker's notes which are on the webpage by Sgt. George, the Second Colony were from a different part of Germany and they had a different religion. Many of the Second Colony can be found later in Culpeper Co., VA and in Madison Co., VA records. The Kempers are found almost everywhere the Holtzclaws were located both in Virginia and in Kentucky. The immigrant Holtzclaw was a schoolteacher, as I learn, and he was the agent with the Virginia authorities for acquring land, etc. He was naturalized in Orange Co., VA, which was a huge county at the time. The Kempers bought land from the Holtzclaws, in Kentucky intermarried with them, and so on. After they got to Kentucky, however, my Kempers went every which way. My particular line went to Texas to fight in the Texas Revolution--which war attracted a lot of Tennesseans, of course. Siblings went to Missouri. I don't think this Virginia group of Germans is of much interest to people who have ancestors in Rowan Co., NC, but American are such mongrels [as English people say they are], who knows? I understand from some of the Germanna notes that one of the Moravian clergy visited the Germanna colonies from time to time. Frederick, Maryland was one of their [Moravian] headquarters, and there is frequent mention of that place in their journals, which have been translated by Adelaide Fries. I believe her compiled books were published by the North Carolina Historical Commission years ago. I believe they are no longer in print, more's the pity! E.W.Wallace One of the American mongrels **************Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp003000000025 48)