In a message dated 2/2/08 4:57:35 PM Eastern Standard Time, halmac@cox.net writes: > Marla. Where is this Organ Luth Ch located and what era do their rec > cover? > Were there other Luth ch in 1799s Rowan Co?? > Best, > Hal McCawley 4178 Pindar Way, Oceanside, CA 92056 760.941.4716 > <HalMac@Cox.net> Some links: //ah.dcr.state.nc.us/SECTIONS/hp/colonial/Bookshelf/lutheran/ptll-a.htm (excellent first hand account!) //library.uncg.edu/ejournals/backcountry/Vol1No1/StoneChurchesPart1.pdf //library.uncg.edu/ejournals/backcountry/Vol2No1/StoneChurchesPart2.pdf //www.ruralhalllutherans.org/history.htm //www.stjohnslutheranchurch.net/history.html > > To Marla concerning the Rintleman's: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <rlmlfm@aol.com> > To: <ncrowan@rootsweb.com>; <rowanroots@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 2:30 PM > Subject: Re: [ROWANROOTS] [NCROWAN] Lutheran records > > > > > >Marla Goodrich <mhg68@msn.com> wrote: > > > > > > > >I have Christoph and Dorothy Rintelmann and Martin Miller who married > >their daughter Sophia from Rowan Co. 1700's. I have never been able to > >find where in Germany they were from. I am wondering if the early Organ > >Lutheran Church records tell where in Germany people were from? In these > >records are there births, baptisms, marriages and deaths? Is there a way > >to see these early records. > > > >---------------------------------------- > >Marla, Christopher (Christophe/Stoffell) Rintleman (also see: Rindelman, Rendleman/Rendelman, Randelman/Randleman, and variations) and his wife Anna Dorathea ??? Rintleman's daughter Sophia is mentioned in various Rindleman researchers works as having been born 1 Mar. 1731/32(calendar change) in Hamburg, Germany and dying 4 Jan 1817 Randolph Co., Ark. I've always been a bit confused about her husband's full name, since some identify him as Martin Miller but the marriage bond filed 13 Aug 1766 in Rowan Co., NC has his name as Baston/Boston (the diminutive of Bastian/Bostian) [demoted on the bond as German]. The bondsman was Sophia's father Christopher Rintleman. I have not researched the origins of Christopher in Germany, or the line of Sophia. My interest in the Rintleman family (where I have done a bit more research) is Christopher's son Johannes (John) Rintleman who married Anna Margaret Schnepp (Snapp), whose marriage bond was issued 24 October 1767 in Rowan Co., NC. Anna Margaret Schnepp (Snapp) was the daughter of Lorentz Schnepp one of the earliest German settler's in Rowan Co., NC arriving sometime around 1749 -50. About the time they migrated to backcountry NC, Lorentz's niece Christina and her new husband John Lewis Beard joined them; moving down the Great Wagon Road from the Opequon creek settlement in what was later Frederick Co., VA. Anna Margaret Schnepp Rintleman was born in 1749 in either North Carolina or possibly Lancaster/York Co., PA where her mother's parents lived and the family may have been staying with waiting for the cabin to be built in NC by Lorentz to move his family to the frontier. The reason I mention this is to give you some suggestion of a prior location to search records for the Rintleman's before they too migrated to Rowan Co., NC. Johannes (John) is believed to have been born in 1743 in Germany. On 26 Sept. 1767 Christopher and his son Johannes took the Oath of Naturalization: Christopher Rengleman, Stoeffel Boo, John Rengleman, John Hainlain took the Oath of Naturalization. (Superior Court Minutes(abstracted), Rowan Co., NC, pg. 603) By law, a male had to have either been a child when they arrived in the Colonies and had now reached the age of 21 or a male had to have been living in the Colonies for 7 years after arrival (if adult when they came) before they could take the Oath of Naturalization. This could possibly provide a clue as to what years to search in manifest of ships arriving at the port of Philadelphia which may have carried the family. One of my direct ancestor's is Lorentz Schnepp through his daughter Catharina who married Johan George Reel in 1762 in Rowan Co., NC. Anna Margaret is mentioned in her father's will and the last name is written in German as Rittleman. This same name spelling is also in the will of their sister Elizabetha Schnepp (Snapp) who never married. (Both wills are written in German). But, on Elisabetha's will John Rintelman signs as witness and spells the last name as Rintleman. John Rintleman and Anna Margaret Schnepp Rintleman had 7 known children ( 2 of the lines migrated to Union Co., ILL). Their second child John Samuel Rintleman, Jr married his first cousin, Catharina Reel, daughter of Johan George and Cathariana Schnepp Reel. One area of a bit of a mystery for me is the connection of your Martin (Bastian) Miller (Muller) as a possible son of Wendel Miller (Muller) who was also a founding member of Organ Lutheran church and the land where he settled being very close to the land of Christopher Rintleman. This Wendel Miller appears to have had a son named Wendel Miller who migrated to Jefferson Co., KY about 1790 with two of the sons of Johans George and Catharina Schnepp Reel. I have been trying to get a handle on the Wendel Miller family and wonder if you have any other information of your Miller line from early Rowan Co., NC? Charmaine Reel Ernst ************** Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. 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