Thanks Marianne. Good stuff. Would you have knowledge of the earliest churches in the Mocksville area where my DETTRO/YOUNG-JUNG/HANCOCK fam resided 1780-1820 era? Best, Hal McCawley 4178 Pindar Way, Oceanside, CA 92056 760.941.4716 <HalMac@Cox.net> ----- Original Message ----- From: "marianne dillow" <mdillow31@verizon.net> To: <rowanroots@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2008 6:13 PM Subject: Re: [ROWANROOTS] [NCROWAN] Lutheran records I might add that most of Union County, Illinois was settled by Rowan County people. My own lines are Michael Hartman Dillow, Hoshouser, Rinehart. Powles, Hileman, Hoffner and Knupp. Rendleman, Lyerla, Miller, Barringer, Earnhart, Casper, Davis, Eddleman, Treece, Peeler, Trexler, and Clutts are just a few besides my own lines all over Union County, IL. Marianne Dillow janrobison2@aim.com wrote: Just a note here... Organ Church was built first. When Lower Stone was built by the Reformed congregation, it was designed to be just large enough the fit Organ (then Zion) inside it. Jan -----Original Message----- From: rlmlfm@aol.com To: rowanroots@rootsweb.com Sent: Sat, 2 Feb 2008 8:27 pm Subject: Re: [ROWANROOTS] [NCROWAN] Lutheran records Hal, The Organ (Zion) Lutheran Church is located south of Salisbury and near the Rowan-Cabarrus County border. I have read that they have records dating back to the early days of this church and these records are all written in German. The original part of the Organ Church building that it is today was built between 1792 and 1795. Pastor Storch was the pastor of Organ Lutheran Church from 1788-1823 and Storch recorded in the church records that in 1774 a group of members began to build the church building. Here are the three earliest, to my knowledge, Lutheran churches in Rowan County. Organ Lutheran Church (est. 1775) 1515 Organ Church Rd Salisbury, NC 28146, US South of Salisbury and near the Rowan-Cabarrus County border St John's Lutheran Church (est. ca. 1772) 200 W Innes St Salisbury, NC 28144 Within the city of Salisbury St Peters Lutheran Church 2570 Saint Peters Church Rd Salisbury, NC 28146 Southeast of the city of Salisbury Linda Monticelli -----Original Message----- From: Hal McCawley To: rowanroots@rootsweb.com Cc: Landers, Lois Sent: Sat, 2 Feb 2008 4:56 pm Subject: Re: [ROWANROOTS] [NCROWAN] Lutheran records Marla. Where is this Organ Luth Ch located and what era do their rec cover? ere there other Luth ch in 1799s Rowan Co?? est, al McCawley 4178 Pindar Way, Oceanside, CA 92056 760.941.4716 HalMac@Cox.net> ---- Original Message ----- rom: o: ; ent: Friday, February 01, 2008 2:30 PM ubject: Re: [ROWANROOTS] [NCROWAN] Lutheran records Marla Goodrich wrote: I have Christoph and Dorothy Rintelmann and Martin Miller who married their daughter Sophia from Rowan Co. 1700's. I have never been able to find where in Germany they were from. I am wondering if the early Organ Lutheran Church records tell where in Germany people were from? In these records are there births, baptisms, marriages and deaths? Is there a way to see these early records. ---------------------------------------- Marla, Following is an article that mentions Christopher Rintelmann and the Organ Lutheran Church in Rowan County that might be of interest: Introduction by Boyd and Krummel Introduction by Boyd and Krummel [Towards the middle of the eighteenth century German immigrants made their appearance in North Carolina. They came from Pennsylvania and settled in the Piedmont region, in the area including the present counties of Forsyth, Guilford, Orange, Alamance, Stanly, Cabarrus, Gaston, Lincoln, Iredell, Stokes, Davie, Davidson and Rowan. Their outstanding characteristics were loyalty to their native language and customs-German being used in the churches for many years,-skill in the industrial arts and agriculture, and a disinclination to participate in politics. Their numbers we do not know, but according to the census of 1790 there were approximately eight thousand. Their religious heritage was German Reformed and Lutheran. They organized and built churches but ministers were few, the only pastors prior to 1773 being of the German Reformed church. Often the members of the two denominations worshipped together and often, also, services were conducted by the laity. With this situation the Lutherans were not satisfied, and in 1772, after unsuccessful efforts to secure pastors and teachers from Pennsylvania, they sent two commissioners to Europe, CHRISTOPHER RENTELMANN, from ORGAN CHURCH, ROWAN County, and CHRISTOPHER LAYRLE of St. John's Church, MECKLENBURG, (now CABARRUS County) to apply for aid to the Consistory of Hanover. Passing through London the commissioners received encouragement from the royal court; a call for aid was issued from the Chapel of St. James and King George III himself made a contribution. From Hanover the Reverend Adolph Nüssmann, formerly a member of the Franciscan Order, was secured as pastor and Gottfried Arend as school master. These worthies arrived in North Carolina in 1773 and located in Orange County. Soon Arend was ordained a minister and took charge of the churches in Rowan, Nüssmann transferring to Mecklenburg (now Cabarrus County). It was the hope of these men and their parishioners to secure further aid from the Consistory of Hanover, but the Revolution interrupted all communication with the fatherland. In 1787, however, effort was made to renew relations; the hope being to secure more pastors and also books for religious and secular instruction. Communication was opened, however, not with the Consistory of Hanover, but with the Reverend Johann Caspar Velthusen, Professor of Theology in the Julius Charles University at Helmstaedt, Duchy of Brunswick, who, as court preacher at London in 1773, had been interested in the missionary movement of that time in behalf of North Carolina. Under his leadership a missionary society was organized to aid the Lutheran churches in North Carolina, and soon additional pastors arrived, Reverend Christopher Bernhardt in 1787, Carl August Storch in 1788, and Reverend Arnold Roshen soon after. However, the aid sought and extended was not confined to the sending of ministers. Text books, lay and religious, were asked for and under the leadership of Velthusen eight text books were prepared and published for use in the Lutheran schools of North Carolina. Thus the Lutheran Church was given a broader foundation and in 1803 the Evangelical Lutheran Synod of North Carolina was formally organized. Concerning these matters the pamphlets here reprinted in translation give much information. They include the four formal reports of the Helmstaedt professors concerning the text books prepared for the youth of North Carolina and also two reports of Nüssmann concerning the status of the Lutheran churches in North Carolina. Space permits only the publication in this issue of the reports on the text books; those concerning the churches will appear in the issue of April 1930.] (Source: http://www.ah.dcr.state.nc.us/sections/hp/colonial/Bookshelf/lutheran/intro.htm) Linda Monticelli ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROWANROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.19/1256 - Release Date: 2/2/2008 1:50 PM

I research Hartmans. Can you tell me the connection to Hartmans in the name Michael Hartmam Dillow. I found this dude in the court house in Concord NC. The info was indexed under Hartman instead of Dillow. He is probably no kin to my Hartmans. Just Curious. Buddy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hal McCawley" <halmac@cox.net> To: <mdillow31@verizon.net>; <rowanroots@rootsweb.com> Cc: "Landers, Lois" <mtnwoman@getgoin.net> Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 7:47 PM Subject: [ROWANROOTS] [NCROWAN] Lutheran records near Mockeville Thanks Marianne. Good stuff. Would you have knowledge of the earliest churches in the Mocksville area where my DETTRO/YOUNG-JUNG/HANCOCK fam resided 1780-1820 era? Best, Hal McCawley 4178 Pindar Way, Oceanside, CA 92056 760.941.4716 <HalMac@Cox.net> ----- Original Message ----- From: "marianne dillow" <mdillow31@verizon.net> To: <rowanroots@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2008 6:13 PM Subject: Re: [ROWANROOTS] [NCROWAN] Lutheran records I might add that most of Union County, Illinois was settled by Rowan County people. My own lines are Michael Hartman Dillow, Hoshouser, Rinehart. Powles, Hileman, Hoffner and Knupp. Rendleman, Lyerla, Miller, Barringer, Earnhart, Casper, Davis, Eddleman, Treece, Peeler, Trexler, and Clutts are just a few besides my own lines all over Union County, IL. Marianne Dillow janrobison2@aim.com wrote: Just a note here... Organ Church was built first. When Lower Stone was built by the Reformed congregation, it was designed to be just large enough the fit Organ (then Zion) inside it. Jan -----Original Message----- From: rlmlfm@aol.com To: rowanroots@rootsweb.com Sent: Sat, 2 Feb 2008 8:27 pm Subject: Re: [ROWANROOTS] [NCROWAN] Lutheran records Hal, The Organ (Zion) Lutheran Church is located south of Salisbury and near the Rowan-Cabarrus County border. I have read that they have records dating back to the early days of this church and these records are all written in German. The original part of the Organ Church building that it is today was built between 1792 and 1795. Pastor Storch was the pastor of Organ Lutheran Church from 1788-1823 and Storch recorded in the church records that in 1774 a group of members began to build the church building. Here are the three earliest, to my knowledge, Lutheran churches in Rowan County. Organ Lutheran Church (est. 1775) 1515 Organ Church Rd Salisbury, NC 28146, US South of Salisbury and near the Rowan-Cabarrus County border St John's Lutheran Church (est. ca. 1772) 200 W Innes St Salisbury, NC 28144 Within the city of Salisbury St Peters Lutheran Church 2570 Saint Peters Church Rd Salisbury, NC 28146 Southeast of the city of Salisbury Linda Monticelli -----Original Message----- From: Hal McCawley To: rowanroots@rootsweb.com Cc: Landers, Lois Sent: Sat, 2 Feb 2008 4:56 pm Subject: Re: [ROWANROOTS] [NCROWAN] Lutheran records Marla. Where is this Organ Luth Ch located and what era do their rec cover? ere there other Luth ch in 1799s Rowan Co?? est, al McCawley 4178 Pindar Way, Oceanside, CA 92056 760.941.4716 HalMac@Cox.net> ---- Original Message ----- rom: o: ; ent: Friday, February 01, 2008 2:30 PM ubject: Re: [ROWANROOTS] [NCROWAN] Lutheran records Marla Goodrich wrote: I have Christoph and Dorothy Rintelmann and Martin Miller who married their daughter Sophia from Rowan Co. 1700's. I have never been able to find where in Germany they were from. I am wondering if the early Organ Lutheran Church records tell where in Germany people were from? In these records are there births, baptisms, marriages and deaths? Is there a way to see these early records. ---------------------------------------- Marla, Following is an article that mentions Christopher Rintelmann and the Organ Lutheran Church in Rowan County that might be of interest: Introduction by Boyd and Krummel Introduction by Boyd and Krummel [Towards the middle of the eighteenth century German immigrants made their appearance in North Carolina. They came from Pennsylvania and settled in the Piedmont region, in the area including the present counties of Forsyth, Guilford, Orange, Alamance, Stanly, Cabarrus, Gaston, Lincoln, Iredell, Stokes, Davie, Davidson and Rowan. Their outstanding characteristics were loyalty to their native language and customs-German being used in the churches for many years,-skill in the industrial arts and agriculture, and a disinclination to participate in politics. Their numbers we do not know, but according to the census of 1790 there were approximately eight thousand. Their religious heritage was German Reformed and Lutheran. They organized and built churches but ministers were few, the only pastors prior to 1773 being of the German Reformed church. Often the members of the two denominations worshipped together and often, also, services were conducted by the laity. With this situation the Lutherans were not satisfied, and in 1772, after unsuccessful efforts to secure pastors and teachers from Pennsylvania, they sent two commissioners to Europe, CHRISTOPHER RENTELMANN, from ORGAN CHURCH, ROWAN County, and CHRISTOPHER LAYRLE of St. John's Church, MECKLENBURG, (now CABARRUS County) to apply for aid to the Consistory of Hanover. Passing through London the commissioners received encouragement from the royal court; a call for aid was issued from the Chapel of St. James and King George III himself made a contribution. From Hanover the Reverend Adolph Nüssmann, formerly a member of the Franciscan Order, was secured as pastor and Gottfried Arend as school master. These worthies arrived in North Carolina in 1773 and located in Orange County. Soon Arend was ordained a minister and took charge of the churches in Rowan, Nüssmann transferring to Mecklenburg (now Cabarrus County). It was the hope of these men and their parishioners to secure further aid from the Consistory of Hanover, but the Revolution interrupted all communication with the fatherland. In 1787, however, effort was made to renew relations; the hope being to secure more pastors and also books for religious and secular instruction. Communication was opened, however, not with the Consistory of Hanover, but with the Reverend Johann Caspar Velthusen, Professor of Theology in the Julius Charles University at Helmstaedt, Duchy of Brunswick, who, as court preacher at London in 1773, had been interested in the missionary movement of that time in behalf of North Carolina. Under his leadership a missionary society was organized to aid the Lutheran churches in North Carolina, and soon additional pastors arrived, Reverend Christopher Bernhardt in 1787, Carl August Storch in 1788, and Reverend Arnold Roshen soon after. However, the aid sought and extended was not confined to the sending of ministers. Text books, lay and religious, were asked for and under the leadership of Velthusen eight text books were prepared and published for use in the Lutheran schools of North Carolina. Thus the Lutheran Church was given a broader foundation and in 1803 the Evangelical Lutheran Synod of North Carolina was formally organized. Concerning these matters the pamphlets here reprinted in translation give much information. They include the four formal reports of the Helmstaedt professors concerning the text books prepared for the youth of North Carolina and also two reports of Nüssmann concerning the status of the Lutheran churches in North Carolina. Space permits only the publication in this issue of the reports on the text books; those concerning the churches will appear in the issue of April 1930.] (Source: http://www.ah.dcr.state.nc.us/sections/hp/colonial/Bookshelf/lutheran/intro.htm) Linda Monticelli ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROWANROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.19/1256 - Release Date: 2/2/2008 1:50 PM ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROWANROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message