Could anyone help place probable ages for these children? CONFIRMATION: "On September 29th, 1811 those confirmed to Holy Communion were: 13 names including David Dothero and Elisabeth Dothero." Records of Heidelberg Evangelical Lutheran (Old Dutchmans Creek) Church located on the east side of Dutchmans Creek in what is now Davie Co, NC. [per <WmTempCo@aol.com> 30 Apr 2000] HEIDELBURG LUTHERAN CHURCH CEMTERY, [ OLD DUTCH MEETING HOUSE] is located Hwy. # 64 East to Cornatzer Rd. on left. Travel about 1 mile and has only 10 readable stones with only B & C surnames listed in Davie County Cemetery Books. [per Doris Honeycutt <djhoneycutt13@msn.com> 9/3/03] Best, Hal McCawley 4178 Pindar Way, Oceanside, CA 92056 760.941.4716 <HalMac@Cox.net> ----- Original Message ----- From: Hal McCawley To: Rowan-L ; NC-Iredell-L ; NCDAVIE-L ; bkluttz@mindspring.com Cc: Landers, Lois Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 12:21 PM Subject: Fw: Rowan County Deed Need opines or legal opinions re age requirements for minors to take title in their name alone to land in 1803 Rowan Co, NC. The age of this buyer David DOTHERO will help determine which David he is and ages possible for him. Best, Hal McCawley 4178 Pindar Way, Oceanside, CA 92056 760.941.4716 <HalMac@Cox.net> ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Kluttz" <bkluttz@mindspring.com> To: <HalMac@Cox.net> Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 10:29 AM Subject: Rowan County Deed > Help needed. I carry my uncle David Dettro as b 22 Oct 1790 Rowan Co, NC, BUT, I also show > DEED: Jun 1803 Rowan Co deed 19/35 from Richard Leach to David TUTTEROW. > Can anyone verify the deed?? Any witnesses??... > ................ > I have published the Rowan County deeds up to 1840. > > The deed is on 19/36. 8 Jun 1803. Richard Leach to David Tutterrow. For 50 acres for 75 pounds on Bear Crk adj this grantee and James McGuire. Wit Harman Husbands. Prvd by Husbands at Aug Ct 1804. > ................. > I understand he must be 21 to take title to land in that era????? > ................... > Not sure about that. > .................... > > James W. Kluttz > Cary, NC > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.2/1271 - Release Date: 2/11/2008 8:16 AM > >

Having been raised Lutheran, of course... I was confirmed at what is usually referred to as the 'age of accountability."? I was in Jr. High School and had to spend TWO YEARS, every Saturday morning, except for summers, in "Catechism Class" with Pastor.? I was probably 13 when I was confirmed. Jan -----Original Message----- From: Hal McCawley <halmac@cox.net> To: Rowan-L <RowanRoots-L@rootsweb.com>; NC-Iredell-L <nc-IREDELL-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com>; NCDAVIE-L <NCDAVIE-L@rootsweb.com>; bkluttz@mindspring.com Cc: djhoneycutt13@msn.com; WmTempCo@aol.com; Landers, Lois <mtnwoman@getgoin.net> Sent: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 3:58 pm Subject: [ROWANROOTS] Age requirement for Luth Ch confirmation to Holy Communion in 1811Rowan Co, NC Could anyone help place probable ages for these children? CONFIRMATION: "On September 29th, 1811 those confirmed to Holy Communion were: 13 names including David Dothero and Elisabeth Dothero." Records of Heidelberg Evangelical Lutheran (Old Dutchmans Creek) Church located on the east side of Dutchmans Creek in what is now Davie Co, NC. [per <WmTempCo@aol.com> 30 Apr 2000] HEIDELBURG LUTHERAN CHURCH CEMTERY, [ OLD DUTCH MEETING HOUSE] is located Hwy. # 64 East to Cornatzer Rd. on left. Travel about 1 mile and has only 10 readable stones with only B & C surnames listed in Davie County Cemetery Books. [per Doris Honeycutt <djhoneycutt13@msn.com> 9/3/03] Best, Hal McCawley 4178 Pindar Way, Oceanside, CA 92056 760.941.4716 <HalMac@Cox.net> ----- Original Message ----- From: Hal McCawley To: Rowan-L ; NC-Iredell-L ; NCDAVIE-L ; bkluttz@mindspring.com Cc: Landers, Lois Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 12:21 PM Subject: Fw: Rowan County Deed Need opines or legal opinions re age requirements for minors to take title in their name alone to land in 1803 Rowan Co, NC. The age of this buyer David DOTHERO will help determine which David he is and ages possible for him. Best, Hal McCawley 4178 Pindar Way, Oceanside, CA 92056 760.941.4716 <HalMac@Cox.net> ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Kluttz" <bkluttz@mindspring.com> To: <HalMac@Cox.net> Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 10:29 AM Subject: Rowan County Deed > Help needed. I carry my uncle David Dettro as b 22 Oct 1790 Rowan Co, NC, BUT, I also show > DEED: Jun 1803 Rowan Co deed 19/35 from Richard Leach to David TUTTEROW. > Can anyone verify the deed?? Any witnesses??... > ................ > I have published the Rowan County deeds up to 1840. > > The deed is on 19/36. 8 Jun 1803. Richard Leach to David Tutterrow. For 50 acres for 75 pounds on Bear Crk adj this grantee and James McGuire. Wit Harman Husbands. Prvd by Husbands at Aug Ct 1804. > ................. > I understand he must be 21 to take title to land in that era????? > ................... > Not sure about that. > .................... > > James W. Kluttz > Cary, NC > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.2/1271 - Release Date: 2/11/2008 8:16 AM > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROWANROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ________________________________________________________________________ More new features than ever. Check out the new AIM(R) Mail ! - http://webmail.aim.com

Thanks Jan for responding. That is what I have understood for children [Not having been raised Lutheran, of course...], but I am not clear about adults or converts?? Were there adults in your "Catechism Class" or was everyone close to your age? Did adults have a separate class? Would adults also have been required to attend class or just be confirmed or?? That is critical to this situation as I need to establish perimeters for their ages, which may separate them from other Davids and Elizabeths and also may determine which of my gf Balzer DOTTRO's wives was their mother!. Best, Hal McCawley 4178 Pindar Way, Oceanside, CA 92056 760.941.4716 <HalMac@Cox.net> ----- Original Message ----- From: <janrobison2@aim.com> To: <rowanroots@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 1:09 PM Subject: Re: [ROWANROOTS] Age requirement for Luth Ch confirmation to Holy Communion in 1811Rowan Co, NC > > Having been raised Lutheran, of course... > > I was confirmed at what is usually referred to as the 'age of > accountability."? I was in Jr. High School and had to spend TWO YEARS, > every Saturday morning, except for summers, in "Catechism Class" with > Pastor.? I was probably 13 when I was confirmed. > > Jan >> -----Original Message----- > From: Hal McCawley <halmac@cox.net> > To: Rowan-L <RowanRoots-L@rootsweb.com>; NC-Iredell-L > <nc-IREDELL-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com>; NCDAVIE-L <NCDAVIE-L@rootsweb.com>; > bkluttz@mindspring.com > Cc: djhoneycutt13@msn.com; WmTempCo@aol.com; Landers, Lois > <mtnwoman@getgoin.net> > Sent: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 3:58 pm > Subject: [ROWANROOTS] Age requirement for Luth Ch confirmation to Holy > Communion in 1811Rowan Co, NC > > Could anyone help place probable ages for these children? > > CONFIRMATION: "On September 29th, 1811 those confirmed to Holy Communion > were: > 13 names including David Dothero and Elisabeth Dothero." Records of > Heidelberg > Evangelical Lutheran (Old Dutchmans Creek) Church located on the east side > of > Dutchmans Creek in what is now Davie Co, NC. [per <WmTempCo@aol.com> 30 > Apr > 2000] > HEIDELBURG LUTHERAN CHURCH CEMTERY, [ OLD DUTCH MEETING HOUSE] is located > Hwy. > # 64 East to Cornatzer Rd. on left. Travel about 1 mile and has only 10 > readable > stones with only B & C surnames listed in Davie County Cemetery Books. > [per > Doris Honeycutt <djhoneycutt13@msn.com> 9/3/03] > > Best, > Hal McCawley 4178 Pindar Way, Oceanside, CA 92056 760.941.4716 > <HalMac@Cox.net> > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Hal McCawley > To: Rowan-L ; NC-Iredell-L ; NCDAVIE-L ; bkluttz@mindspring.com > Cc: Landers, Lois > Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 12:21 PM > Subject: Fw: Rowan County Deed > > > Need opines or legal opinions re age requirements for minors to take > title in > their name alone to land in 1803 Rowan Co, NC. > The age of this buyer David DOTHERO will help determine which David he is > and > ages possible for him. > Best, > Hal McCawley 4178 Pindar Way, Oceanside, CA 92056 760.941.4716 > <HalMac@Cox.net> > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "James Kluttz" <bkluttz@mindspring.com> > To: <HalMac@Cox.net> > Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 10:29 AM > Subject: Rowan County Deed > > > > Help needed. I carry my uncle David Dettro as b 22 Oct 1790 Rowan Co, > NC, > BUT, I also show > > DEED: Jun 1803 Rowan Co deed 19/35 from Richard Leach to David > TUTTEROW. > > Can anyone verify the deed?? Any witnesses??... > > ................ > > I have published the Rowan County deeds up to 1840. > > > > The deed is on 19/36. 8 Jun 1803. Richard Leach to David Tutterrow. For > 50 > acres for 75 pounds on Bear Crk adj this grantee and James McGuire. Wit > Harman > Husbands. Prvd by Husbands at Aug Ct 1804. > > ................. > > I understand he must be 21 to take title to land in that era????? > > ................... > > Not sure about that. > > .................... > > > > James W. Kluttz > > Cary, NC > > > > > > > > > > -- > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.2/1271 - Release Date: > 2/11/2008 > 8:16 AM > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ROWANROOTS-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body > of > the message > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > More new features than ever. Check out the new AIM(R) Mail ! - > http://webmail.aim.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ROWANROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.2/1271 - Release Date: 2/11/2008 > 8:16 AM > >

Hal, They would be 10 or older. How much older, there is no way to tell without more info. james w On Feb 11, 2008 3:58 PM, Hal McCawley <halmac@cox.net> wrote: > Could anyone help place probable ages for these children? > > CONFIRMATION: "On September 29th, 1811 those confirmed to Holy Communion > were: 13 names including David Dothero and Elisabeth Dothero." Records of > Heidelberg Evangelical Lutheran (Old Dutchmans Creek) Church located on the > east side of Dutchmans Creek in what is now Davie Co, NC. [per < > WmTempCo@aol.com> 30 Apr 2000] > HEIDELBURG LUTHERAN CHURCH CEMTERY, [ OLD DUTCH MEETING HOUSE] is located > Hwy. # 64 East to Cornatzer Rd. on left. Travel about 1 mile and has only 10 > readable stones with only B & C surnames listed in Davie County Cemetery > Books. [per Doris Honeycutt <djhoneycutt13@msn.com> 9/3/03] > > Best, > Hal McCawley 4178 Pindar Way, Oceanside, CA 92056 760.941.4716 < > HalMac@Cox.net> > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Hal McCawley > To: Rowan-L ; NC-Iredell-L ; NCDAVIE-L ; bkluttz@mindspring.com > Cc: Landers, Lois > Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 12:21 PM > Subject: Fw: Rowan County Deed > > > Need opines or legal opinions re age requirements for minors to take > title in their name alone to land in 1803 Rowan Co, NC. > The age of this buyer David DOTHERO will help determine which David he is > and ages possible for him. > Best, > Hal McCawley 4178 Pindar Way, Oceanside, CA 92056 760.941.4716 < > HalMac@Cox.net> > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "James Kluttz" <bkluttz@mindspring.com> > To: <HalMac@Cox.net> > Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 10:29 AM > Subject: Rowan County Deed > > > > Help needed. I carry my uncle David Dettro as b 22 Oct 1790 Rowan Co, > NC, BUT, I also show > > DEED: Jun 1803 Rowan Co deed 19/35 from Richard Leach to David > TUTTEROW. > > Can anyone verify the deed?? Any witnesses??... > > ................ > > I have published the Rowan County deeds up to 1840. > > > > The deed is on 19/36. 8 Jun 1803. Richard Leach to David Tutterrow. For > 50 acres for 75 pounds on Bear Crk adj this grantee and James McGuire. Wit > Harman Husbands. Prvd by Husbands at Aug Ct 1804. > > ................. > > I understand he must be 21 to take title to land in that era????? > > ................... > > Not sure about that. > > .................... > > > > James W. Kluttz > > Cary, NC > > > > > > > > > > -- > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.2/1271 - Release Date: > 2/11/2008 8:16 AM > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ROWANROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hal, During those very early years, ages for communicants and/or confirmation ranged from age 13 to as late as 18 due to the availability of a legitimate Lutheran minister to conduct the necessary instruction; also a certain number was needed to make up a class which I noticed in several church records in Catawba Co., NC area. I was confirmed in LCA and had first Holy Communion on Pentecost Sunday at age 11 upon completing a year of instruction during the school year preceding same on Saturday mornings plus written and verbal Q & A in front of the whole congregation! I was in 6th or 7th grade - time period was back in late 1940s in Washington, DC. My four sons took three years of instruction & written testing before being confirmed on Pentecost Sunday - ninth grade - Holy Communion followed same Sunday or Sunday next. ELCA has changed the practice of allowing Holy Communion to be much earlier after a period of instruction. Adult confirmation in ELCA currently is conferred after a period of instruction; and baptism usually occurs on same Sunday prior to confirmation unless baptism occurred in a prior Christian faith. Ann K. Propst, Brevard, NC -----Original Message----- From: rowanroots-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:rowanroots-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Hal McCawley Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 3:59 PM To: Rowan-L; NC-Iredell-L; NCDAVIE-L; bkluttz@mindspring.com Cc: djhoneycutt13@msn.com; WmTempCo@aol.com; Landers Lois Subject: [ROWANROOTS] Age requirement for Luth Ch confirmation to Holy Communion in 1811Rowan Co, NC Could anyone help place probable ages for these children? CONFIRMATION: "On September 29th, 1811 those confirmed to Holy Communion were: 13 names including David Dothero and Elisabeth Dothero." Records of Heidelberg Evangelical Lutheran (Old Dutchmans Creek) Church located on the east side of Dutchmans Creek in what is now Davie Co, NC. [per <WmTempCo@aol.com> 30 Apr 2000] HEIDELBURG LUTHERAN CHURCH CEMTERY, [ OLD DUTCH MEETING HOUSE] is located Hwy. # 64 East to Cornatzer Rd. on left. Travel about 1 mile and has only 10 readable stones with only B & C surnames listed in Davie County Cemetery Books. [per Doris Honeycutt <djhoneycutt13@msn.com> 9/3/03] Best, Hal McCawley 4178 Pindar Way, Oceanside, CA 92056 760.941.4716 <HalMac@Cox.net> ----- Original Message ----- From: Hal McCawley To: Rowan-L ; NC-Iredell-L ; NCDAVIE-L ; bkluttz@mindspring.com Cc: Landers, Lois Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 12:21 PM Subject: Fw: Rowan County Deed Need opines or legal opinions re age requirements for minors to take title in their name alone to land in 1803 Rowan Co, NC. The age of this buyer David DOTHERO will help determine which David he is and ages possible for him. Best, Hal McCawley 4178 Pindar Way, Oceanside, CA 92056 760.941.4716 <HalMac@Cox.net>