I am descended from the WORKE Family who lived in Iredell and Linclon Counties, North Carolina. Jo Bennett ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour

It would be very nice if all could indicate their surnames or some specific top in the subject line. -----Original Message----- From: rowanroots-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:rowanroots-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of rowanroots-request@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 2:02 AM To: rowanroots@rootsweb.com Subject: ROWANROOTS Digest, Vol 2, Issue 179 Today's Topics: 1. Re: Rowan families (Del & Curt) 2. Re: Rowan families (joemcdo) 3. Re: Rowan families (Gary Smith) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 08:12:42 -0400 From: Del & Curt <cmano@buffnet.net> Subject: Re: [ROWANROOTS] Rowan families To: rowanroots@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <3C13B9C3-3E0A-4389-A048-F42CD0756850@buffnet.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Sally Benson Married Richmond Lewis 31 Oct 1822 Rowan Co Bond by Henderson Benson Robert Benson and Nancy Lewis 4 Aug 1827 by Thomas Walton These Bensons were two children of Robert and Lucy (Hutchens) Benson. Lewis's were a neighbor, Abel Corzine (moved to Cabarrus Co NC with several Bensons and Hollans), Hollans. The neighborhood can be seen for several Censuses 1790 - 1810 as it changes. I haven't worked on this line in several years but people would move in large groups to new areas and these Benson-Lewis combinations I never did find out where they disappeared to. If you spot them while Lewis hunting please let me know. Someday I will have time again to do geneology. Henderson Benson is their brother and he pioneered to Jersyville, Ill about 1830. Other Bensons went to Texas. On Aug 26, 2007, at 2:03 AM, kathy Wood wrote: > wasis the timeframe for stokes and randoph co in relations to > rowan Iam looking for Wood and Lewis as family names > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROWANROOTS- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 18:42:55 -0400 From: "joemcdo" <joemcdo@flash.net> Subject: Re: [ROWANROOTS] Rowan families To: <rowanroots@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <003101c7ea8d$fd74ff60$d627d70c@ownerv8qa7gs22> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Hi Derald and Lolene, Can you please tell me about your Merrells and Smiths. I'm also related to them. Mine are from NJ and the Jersey Settlement, NC. I'm from Capt. Ben MERRILL family. My Mary MERRILL b. 01 Jul 1808 was the daughter of William M. MERRILL b. 06 Mar 1781 and he was the son of Benjamin MERRILL b. 02 Dec 1752 and Penelope MERRILL b. abt 1759 daughter of Capt. Ben MERRILL. Have you come across any PLUMMER in with your Lynn family in NC or VA? Be Well Cuzins Joe McDonald ----- Original Message ----- From: <Linndr@aol.com> To: <rowanroots@rootsweb.com> Cc: <lolene3599@sbcglobal.net> Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2007 11:19 AM Subject: Re: [ROWANROOTS] Rowan families > Lolene...My William Lynn family also has connections to the Merrells, > Smiths, and Hunts. Did you find any Lynns in your genealogy? William's > daughter > Rachel married Cornelius Smith. Son, Israel, my line, married Mary > Smith. > Another son, William Fanning Lynn married Hannah Hunt Smith. > Thanks...Derald Linn > > > > ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL > at > http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ROWANROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.2/967 - Release Date: 8/22/2007 > 6:51 PM > > ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 20:52:39 -0700 From: "Gary Smith" <garymarian@comcast.net> Subject: Re: [ROWANROOTS] Rowan families To: <rowanroots@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <002301c7eab9$368d55b0$0402a8c0@graywkv6ko3mux> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Joe, I'm one of the Smith line and can direct you to this link for material about the fate of Benjamin MERRILL: http://www.tamu.edu/ccbn/dewitt/mckstmerreg.htm , the rest of the family history is long. Best wishes, Gary in Berkeley ----- Original Message ----- From: "joemcdo" <joemcdo@flash.net> To: <rowanroots@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 3:42 PM Subject: Re: [ROWANROOTS] Rowan families > Hi Derald and Lolene, > Can you please tell me about your Merrells and Smiths. I'm also related to > them. Mine are from NJ and the Jersey Settlement, NC. I'm from Capt. Ben > MERRILL family. My Mary MERRILL b. 01 Jul 1808 was the daughter of William > M. MERRILL b. 06 Mar 1781 and he was the son of Benjamin MERRILL b. 02 > Dec > 1752 and Penelope MERRILL b. abt 1759 daughter of Capt. Ben MERRILL. > > Have you come across any PLUMMER in with your Lynn family in NC or VA? > > Be Well Cuzins > Joe McDonald > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <Linndr@aol.com> > To: <rowanroots@rootsweb.com> > Cc: <lolene3599@sbcglobal.net> > Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2007 11:19 AM > Subject: Re: [ROWANROOTS] Rowan families > > >> Lolene...My William Lynn family also has connections to the Merrells, >> Smiths, and Hunts. Did you find any Lynns in your genealogy? William's >> daughter >> Rachel married Cornelius Smith. Son, Israel, my line, married Mary >> Smith. >> Another son, William Fanning Lynn married Hannah Hunt Smith. >> Thanks...Derald Linn >> >> >> >> ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new >> AOL >> at >> http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ROWANROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.2/967 - Release Date: 8/22/2007 >> 6:51 PM >> >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ROWANROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------ To contact the ROWANROOTS list administrator, send an email to ROWANROOTS-admin@rootsweb.com. 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Joe, We've corresponded before several times, I think on other lines although I can't remember which they were now - or maybe it was the Smiths - Gary and I are part of the Andrew Smith line out of Hopewell NJ - that came to Jersey Settlement in NC along with the Merrills and others. I will be sending you an invitation to the Smith MyFamily site that Gary has set up and I assist with, there is even some information on the Merrills there as well. Susan Avery (formerly Susan Gall) Winston-Salem, NC On Wed, 29 Aug 2007 20:52:39 -0700 "Gary Smith" <garymarian@comcast.net> writes: > Joe, > I'm one of the Smith line and can direct you to this link for > material > about the fate of Benjamin MERRILL: > http://www.tamu.edu/ccbn/dewitt/mckstmerreg.htm , the rest of the > family > history is long. > Best wishes, > Gary in Berkeley > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "joemcdo" <joemcdo@flash.net> > To: <rowanroots@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 3:42 PM > Subject: Re: [ROWANROOTS] Rowan families > > > > Hi Derald and Lolene, > > Can you please tell me about your Merrells and Smiths. I'm also > related to > > them. Mine are from NJ and the Jersey Settlement, NC. I'm from > Capt. Ben > > MERRILL family. My Mary MERRILL b. 01 Jul 1808 was the daughter of > William > > M. MERRILL b. 06 Mar 1781 and he was the son of Benjamin MERRILL > b. 02 > > Dec > > 1752 and Penelope MERRILL b. abt 1759 daughter of Capt. Ben > MERRILL. > > > > Have you come across any PLUMMER in with your Lynn family in NC or > VA? > > > > Be Well Cuzins > > Joe McDonald > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <Linndr@aol.com> > > To: <rowanroots@rootsweb.com> > > Cc: <lolene3599@sbcglobal.net> > > Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2007 11:19 AM > > Subject: Re: [ROWANROOTS] Rowan families > > > > > >> Lolene...My William Lynn family also has connections to the > Merrells, > >> Smiths, and Hunts. Did you find any Lynns in your genealogy? > William's > >> daughter > >> Rachel married Cornelius Smith. Son, Israel, my line, married > Mary > >> Smith. > >> Another son, William Fanning Lynn married Hannah Hunt Smith. > >> Thanks...Derald Linn > >> > >> > >> > >> ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the > all-new > >> AOL > >> at > >> http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> ROWANROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the > >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > >> > >> -- > >> No virus found in this incoming message. > >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. > >> Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.2/967 - Release Date: > 8/22/2007 > >> 6:51 PM > >> > >> > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > ROWANROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ROWANROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Joe, I'm one of the Smith line and can direct you to this link for material about the fate of Benjamin MERRILL: http://www.tamu.edu/ccbn/dewitt/mckstmerreg.htm , the rest of the family history is long. Best wishes, Gary in Berkeley ----- Original Message ----- From: "joemcdo" <joemcdo@flash.net> To: <rowanroots@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 3:42 PM Subject: Re: [ROWANROOTS] Rowan families > Hi Derald and Lolene, > Can you please tell me about your Merrells and Smiths. I'm also related to > them. Mine are from NJ and the Jersey Settlement, NC. I'm from Capt. Ben > MERRILL family. My Mary MERRILL b. 01 Jul 1808 was the daughter of William > M. MERRILL b. 06 Mar 1781 and he was the son of Benjamin MERRILL b. 02 > Dec > 1752 and Penelope MERRILL b. abt 1759 daughter of Capt. Ben MERRILL. > > Have you come across any PLUMMER in with your Lynn family in NC or VA? > > Be Well Cuzins > Joe McDonald > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <Linndr@aol.com> > To: <rowanroots@rootsweb.com> > Cc: <lolene3599@sbcglobal.net> > Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2007 11:19 AM > Subject: Re: [ROWANROOTS] Rowan families > > >> Lolene...My William Lynn family also has connections to the Merrells, >> Smiths, and Hunts. Did you find any Lynns in your genealogy? William's >> daughter >> Rachel married Cornelius Smith. Son, Israel, my line, married Mary >> Smith. >> Another son, William Fanning Lynn married Hannah Hunt Smith. >> Thanks...Derald Linn >> >> >> >> ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new >> AOL >> at >> http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ROWANROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.2/967 - Release Date: 8/22/2007 >> 6:51 PM >> >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ROWANROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Derald and Lolene, Can you please tell me about your Merrells and Smiths. I'm also related to them. Mine are from NJ and the Jersey Settlement, NC. I'm from Capt. Ben MERRILL family. My Mary MERRILL b. 01 Jul 1808 was the daughter of William M. MERRILL b. 06 Mar 1781 and he was the son of Benjamin MERRILL b. 02 Dec 1752 and Penelope MERRILL b. abt 1759 daughter of Capt. Ben MERRILL. Have you come across any PLUMMER in with your Lynn family in NC or VA? Be Well Cuzins Joe McDonald ----- Original Message ----- From: <Linndr@aol.com> To: <rowanroots@rootsweb.com> Cc: <lolene3599@sbcglobal.net> Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2007 11:19 AM Subject: Re: [ROWANROOTS] Rowan families > Lolene...My William Lynn family also has connections to the Merrells, > Smiths, and Hunts. Did you find any Lynns in your genealogy? William's > daughter > Rachel married Cornelius Smith. Son, Israel, my line, married Mary > Smith. > Another son, William Fanning Lynn married Hannah Hunt Smith. > Thanks...Derald Linn > > > > ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL > at > http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ROWANROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.2/967 - Release Date: 8/22/2007 > 6:51 PM > >

Sally Benson Married Richmond Lewis 31 Oct 1822 Rowan Co Bond by Henderson Benson Robert Benson and Nancy Lewis 4 Aug 1827 by Thomas Walton These Bensons were two children of Robert and Lucy (Hutchens) Benson. Lewis's were a neighbor, Abel Corzine (moved to Cabarrus Co NC with several Bensons and Hollans), Hollans. The neighborhood can be seen for several Censuses 1790 - 1810 as it changes. I haven't worked on this line in several years but people would move in large groups to new areas and these Benson-Lewis combinations I never did find out where they disappeared to. If you spot them while Lewis hunting please let me know. Someday I will have time again to do geneology. Henderson Benson is their brother and he pioneered to Jersyville, Ill about 1830. Other Bensons went to Texas. On Aug 26, 2007, at 2:03 AM, kathy Wood wrote: > wasis the timeframe for stokes and randoph co in relations to > rowan Iam looking for Wood and Lewis as family names > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROWANROOTS- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

The only Mowry I have is Martha who married Moses Sechler who was b. 1804 and married her 23 Mar 1835. So there is a possibility that Martha is in that family. Sorry, I don't have more. Glennis ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour

Is this book of Marriages of Rowan Co, NC available for sale or loan from a Library? I have been searching for my Doyel/Doyle family in the time frame of 1780-1800 in Salisbury on into Kentucky with the Boone family. My kinfolk lived next to Squire Boone during the Rev War Era.?Any help would be helpful. -----Original Message----- From: Monya Havekost <mhavekost@bellsouth.net> To: rowanroots@rootsweb.com Sent: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 7:28 pm Subject: Re: [ROWANROOTS] German families From the book "Marriages of Rowan County, NC. 1753-1868," by Brent H. Holcomb (ISBN 0-8063-0942-3) I find: Page 142 Jacob FRICK and Evaline LUDWICK, 7 July 1852; Philip LEMLEY, bondsman; J. S. MYERS wit. Page 112 George EARNHART and Lucay PARKER, 2 May 1811; george Earnhart, bondsman; Jno GILES, C.C., wit. George EARNHART and Elizabeth PORTER, 28 Jan 1833; Moses Cauble, bondsman. George EARNHART and Eve A. WALLER, 3 Oct. 1850; James EARNHEART, bondsman; J. S. MYERS, wit. I looked under variant spellings for WILDT and TREECE/DREISS but found nothing. Monya Fayette Co. AL list manager ASTON surname list manager MUSGROVE surname list manager THOMPSON surname list manager Researching: ANDERSON, ANDERSEN (Norway), ASTON, BISHOP, DODSON, FYLLINGSNES (Norway), GRANT, HARRIS, HOWELL, JORDAN, LESLIE, McDILL, McDONALD, MILLIGAN, MORTON, MUSGROVE, OWEN, PEDEN, SOUTH, STANFORD, THOMPSON, WEAVER and WEBSTER On Aug 27, 2007, at 11:55 AM, Myra Vanderpool Gormley wrote: > I'm compiling information about my German families who settled mostly > along > the Dutch Second Creek in Rowan County prior to the American > Revolution. > Some of the names are: > Jacob FRICK, Georg EHRENHARDT [Earnhart], Veronica WILDT, and Michael > TREECE > [Dreiss]. I am particularly interested in learning the names of the > spouses > of the children of these ancestors. > > Most of the marriages probably took place in the early 1800s to about > 1835. > Among the surnames are: McMACKIN, CASPER, HARTLINE, MOWERY and FREEZE. > > Is anyone else familiar with any of these German families and care to > exchange information? > > --Myra Vanderpool Gormley, CG > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ROWANROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROWANROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ________________________________________________________________________ Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - http://mail.aol.com

Dear Betty, Thank you for the clarification; I was working on another file and made a typo; mea culpa. Best wishes, Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Betty H. Garbers" <bhgarbers@cox.net> To: <rowanroots@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 6:14 PM Subject: Re: [ROWANROOTS] Maryland Apparently > Dear Gary, > > The name is HARBIN. This is a common mistake of this name. I am sorry > that > I can not recall from memory the full details. Thomas Harbin was really a > good guy working for his country by his belief. This group was not happy > with Lincoln freeing the slaves. > > Betty Harbin Garbers. > > > >> Thank you for the pleasant reply, Betty: >> I meant no disrespect, only wondering at the not-impossible timeline. I >> thought there might be a story behind that. And, I'll look up the Hardin >> book by Hall. >> Thank you, >> Gary in Berkeley >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Betty H. Garbers" <bhgarbers@cox.net> >> To: <rowanroots@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 3:20 PM >> Subject: Re: [ROWANROOTS] Maryland Apparently >> >> >>> Dear Gary, >>> >>> Bill is right. I meant Jefferson Davis. He was a spy working for >>> Jefferson >>> Davis. A Mr. Hall wrote a book about this man & his connection to John >>> Wilkes Booth. >>> The freeing of the slaves affected the labor force for the raising of >>> tobacco. a common source of money of the times. >>> >>> Betty Harbin Garbers. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> Betty, >>>> If your cousin Thomas reported to Thomas Jefferson (say, circa 1800) >>>> he >>>> must have been in his 80s when he helped Booth in 1865, and then lived >>>> in >>>> England for a while and later worked in a hotel in DC when possibly in >>>> his >>>> 90s; is this right? Hmmm... >>>> Best Regards, >>>> Gary in Berkeley >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Betty H. Garbers" <bhgarbers@cox.net> >>>> To: <rowanroots@rootsweb.com> >>>> Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 6:48 AM >>>> Subject: Re: [ROWANROOTS] Maryland Apparently >>>> >>>> >>>>> Cousin Thomas Harbin was among those that helped John Wilkes Booth >>>>> escape. >>>>> He supposedly reported to Thomas Jefferson personally. Harbin left >>>>> the >>>>> area. Possibvly living in England for awhile. He later worked in a >>>>> hotel >>>>> in downtown Washington, D. C. >>>>> >>>>> Betty Harbin Garbers >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> E.W. Wallace wrote in part: >>>>>> Since a good many Marylanders came to Rowan Co. which extended far >>>>>> to >>>>>> the >>>>>> west--until it came upon native Americans--perhaps colonial Maryland >>>>>> may >>>>>> be >>>>>> a good place to research for that surname. >>>>>>> >>>>>> "Cousin" David Herold hung out with John Wilkes Booth and actually >>>>>> guided >>>>>> John to Dr, Mudd to get his let set after the Lincoln assination.. He >>>>>> was >>>>>> captured in the tobacco barn on the Garrett farm.. and later... hung >>>>>> out >>>>>> with Mary Surratt and others on the scaffold in the prison yard.... >>>>>> in >>>>>> Washington DC... for the last time... "Cousin" Davie is buried in the >>>>>> Congressional Cemetery in D.C... I think he's my most Famous >>>>>> "Cousin"!! >>>>>> My >>>>>> family settled in Western NC also... GLH >>>>>> >>>>>> G. Lee Hearl >>>>>> Authentic Appalachian Storyteller >>>>>> Abingdon, Va. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>>> ROWANROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>>>>> the >>>>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>> ROWANROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>>>> the >>>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> ROWANROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> ROWANROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ROWANROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ROWANROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard A. Pence" <richardpence@pipeline.com> To: "Gary Smith" <garymarian@comcast.net> Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 5:01 PM Subject: German Names >> Guthmann is a good basic German name, and was often anglicized to >> 'Goodman'. The name Gulhmann looks more like a clerk's error, reading a >> 't' >> as an 'l'. Many foreign names were transcribed by a clerk, who was often >> not >> looking at the name on paper, not by the way they were written, but how >> they >> sounded to the ear of someone who knew only English (sort of). >> Another example: American dialect played a part in the >> transmogrification >> of my 1750s 'Stanborough' family name to the contemporary southern >> 'Stansberry'. > > You recently wrote the above in the Rowan Roots mailing list and I wanted > to tell you it is a fine explanation of how German names often became > "Americanized." > > The spoken word, as opposed to the written word, is, I am sure, how Bentz > usually became Pence. (B and P sound the same in German, I am told.) > > I picked up late in this thread, but the Goodman woman to whom you were > replying quoted a list of German names (and I missed what they > represented) and I recognized a couple of them: Jacob Benz (who was known > as Jacob Pence and whose ancestry I have) and his father-in-law George > Heinrich Berger (usually Barger in N.C.). Jacob Pence was from Augusta > (now Rockingham) County, Virginia, and I think George Henry Barger was > also. I have a copy of a letter Jacob Pence's sister wrote from North > Carolina to her brother John in Rockingham County telling him of the death > of their brother Jacob in 1802. I think Jacob lived in Cabarrus County > then but not sure. In later years he had a number of descendants who were > in Rowan County. > > I thought you might get a kick out of the following: > > Klaus Wust, the German-born historian who wrote a great deal about German > immigrants to the U.S., particularly Virginia, often included a list of > variant spellings for German surnames in his books. In one (Klaus Wust, > The Record of Hawksbill Church, 1788-1850, Page County, Va. [Edinburg, > Va.: Shenandoah History, 1979], 33), he included this item: > > "Sauer, Saur, Sower, Sour or Benz, Bentz, Pents, Pens, Brentz, Brintz, > Printz, Prenntz, Prince-we could make endless lists of variations. A > long time ago James Kirke Paulding told the story of Kierst von > Guelph, the imaginary poor relation of King George I who, after > failing to make all people in Virginia talk High-German, contented > himself with turning English upside down: Thus P became B, and B > became P, and D T until the stoutest abecedarian could hardly tell > which was which." > > I once attended a lecture on German records given by Wust. After his > presentation, he said he would take questions in alphabetical order. There > being no questions from those whose names started with A, I rose. He asked > my name and when I said "Pence," he said, "Ah, as in Mercedes-Benz." > > I am not a participant in the Rowan list, but if you care to you can share > whatever parts you would like with the list. I have a long way to go to > sort out the North Carolina Pences but I do have some records - and would > welcome information from anyone on the Rowan list. > > Richard A. Pence > 3211 Adams Ct, Fairfax, VA 22030-1900 > Voice 703-591-4243 / Fax 703-352-3560 > Pence Family History <www.pipeline.com/~richardpence/> > >

Dear Gary, The name is HARBIN. This is a common mistake of this name. I am sorry that I can not recall from memory the full details. Thomas Harbin was really a good guy working for his country by his belief. This group was not happy with Lincoln freeing the slaves. Betty Harbin Garbers. > Thank you for the pleasant reply, Betty: > I meant no disrespect, only wondering at the not-impossible timeline. I > thought there might be a story behind that. And, I'll look up the Hardin > book by Hall. > Thank you, > Gary in Berkeley > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Betty H. Garbers" <bhgarbers@cox.net> > To: <rowanroots@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 3:20 PM > Subject: Re: [ROWANROOTS] Maryland Apparently > > >> Dear Gary, >> >> Bill is right. I meant Jefferson Davis. He was a spy working for >> Jefferson >> Davis. A Mr. Hall wrote a book about this man & his connection to John >> Wilkes Booth. >> The freeing of the slaves affected the labor force for the raising of >> tobacco. a common source of money of the times. >> >> Betty Harbin Garbers. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> Betty, >>> If your cousin Thomas reported to Thomas Jefferson (say, circa 1800) he >>> must have been in his 80s when he helped Booth in 1865, and then lived >>> in >>> England for a while and later worked in a hotel in DC when possibly in >>> his >>> 90s; is this right? Hmmm... >>> Best Regards, >>> Gary in Berkeley >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Betty H. Garbers" <bhgarbers@cox.net> >>> To: <rowanroots@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 6:48 AM >>> Subject: Re: [ROWANROOTS] Maryland Apparently >>> >>> >>>> Cousin Thomas Harbin was among those that helped John Wilkes Booth >>>> escape. >>>> He supposedly reported to Thomas Jefferson personally. Harbin left >>>> the >>>> area. Possibvly living in England for awhile. He later worked in a >>>> hotel >>>> in downtown Washington, D. C. >>>> >>>> Betty Harbin Garbers >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> E.W. Wallace wrote in part: >>>>> Since a good many Marylanders came to Rowan Co. which extended far to >>>>> the >>>>> west--until it came upon native Americans--perhaps colonial Maryland >>>>> may >>>>> be >>>>> a good place to research for that surname. >>>>>> >>>>> "Cousin" David Herold hung out with John Wilkes Booth and actually >>>>> guided >>>>> John to Dr, Mudd to get his let set after the Lincoln assination.. He >>>>> was >>>>> captured in the tobacco barn on the Garrett farm.. and later... hung >>>>> out >>>>> with Mary Surratt and others on the scaffold in the prison yard.... in >>>>> Washington DC... for the last time... "Cousin" Davie is buried in the >>>>> Congressional Cemetery in D.C... I think he's my most Famous >>>>> "Cousin"!! >>>>> My >>>>> family settled in Western NC also... GLH >>>>> >>>>> G. Lee Hearl >>>>> Authentic Appalachian Storyteller >>>>> Abingdon, Va. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>> ROWANROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>>>> the >>>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> ROWANROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> ROWANROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ROWANROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ROWANROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

From the book "Marriages of Rowan County, NC. 1753-1868," by Brent H. Holcomb (ISBN 0-8063-0942-3) I find: Page 142 Jacob FRICK and Evaline LUDWICK, 7 July 1852; Philip LEMLEY, bondsman; J. S. MYERS wit. Page 112 George EARNHART and Lucay PARKER, 2 May 1811; george Earnhart, bondsman; Jno GILES, C.C., wit. George EARNHART and Elizabeth PORTER, 28 Jan 1833; Moses Cauble, bondsman. George EARNHART and Eve A. WALLER, 3 Oct. 1850; James EARNHEART, bondsman; J. S. MYERS, wit. I looked under variant spellings for WILDT and TREECE/DREISS but found nothing. Monya Fayette Co. AL list manager ASTON surname list manager MUSGROVE surname list manager THOMPSON surname list manager Researching: ANDERSON, ANDERSEN (Norway), ASTON, BISHOP, DODSON, FYLLINGSNES (Norway), GRANT, HARRIS, HOWELL, JORDAN, LESLIE, McDILL, McDONALD, MILLIGAN, MORTON, MUSGROVE, OWEN, PEDEN, SOUTH, STANFORD, THOMPSON, WEAVER and WEBSTER On Aug 27, 2007, at 11:55 AM, Myra Vanderpool Gormley wrote: > I'm compiling information about my German families who settled mostly > along > the Dutch Second Creek in Rowan County prior to the American > Revolution. > Some of the names are: > Jacob FRICK, Georg EHRENHARDT [Earnhart], Veronica WILDT, and Michael > TREECE > [Dreiss]. I am particularly interested in learning the names of the > spouses > of the children of these ancestors. > > Most of the marriages probably took place in the early 1800s to about > 1835. > Among the surnames are: McMACKIN, CASPER, HARTLINE, MOWERY and FREEZE. > > Is anyone else familiar with any of these German families and care to > exchange information? > > --Myra Vanderpool Gormley, CG > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ROWANROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

In a message dated 8/27/2007 3:31:45 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, garymarian@comcast.net writes: Guthmann is a good basic German name, and was often anglicized to 'Goodman'. The name Gulhmann looks more like a clerk's error, reading a 't' as an 'l'. Many foreign names were transcribed by a clerk, who was often not looking at the name on paper, not by the way they were written, but how they sounded to the ear of someone who knew only English (sort of). Another example: American dialect played a part in the transmogrification of my 1750s 'Stanborough' family name to the contemporary southern 'Stansberry'. Cheers, Gary in Berkeley Gary is right. We have to remember that county clerks were perhaps one of the few literate persons in the county. When I have time, infrequently these days, I like to read actual deeds--or at least the films the deeds--and I have found lots of boo-boos. But, still they are original documents, so we need to pay attention. Take the name Harris. These days we think--well, how many ways can one spell Harris. One creative clerk in an eastern Kentucky spelled the surname Harris three different ways in one short paragraph deed. Think of the work this person [male, of course] had to do and the tools with which he had to do it. Furthermore, my amateur historian husband says that the water was not very good to drink in lots of places, so alcohol was the preferable drink!!! (I have not looked that fact up, but I do remember reading an old American Heritage article to the effect, Would You Let Your Ancestors in Your Home? There were anecdotes about the looks, the behavior, the customs, etc. of our frontier ancestors. Thank goodness for these county clerks, no matter how they did their jobs!!!) In Granville Co., NC, where I have several colonial roots, the job of county clerk was almost hereditary, passed down from father to son. E.W.Wallace ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour

In a message dated 8/27/07 5:16:05 PM Eastern Daylight Time, AHamptonResearch@aol.com writes: > Do you know if the above-mentioned Jacob KLEIN was a son of Daniel Little > (changed to Little from Klein when he arrived in America)? > Sorry Arlene, I don't know the answer to this question. Charmaine ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour

In a message dated 8/27/07 5:03:35 PM Eastern Daylight Time, SMITHMTN@aol.com writes: > My Goodmans sometimes > spelled the name Guthmann and I wonder if the Gulhmann here is another > spelling of the name. I haven't done any indepth research into the Goodman line so I cannot definitely determine if this may be the case, although I think that Michael and Christopher Gulhmann eventually were in olf Tryon, Lincoln Co, and the name was anglacized to Goldman. The Goldman family moved into southern Indiana about 1817 - 19, with a large group of loosely related families who lived in Lincoln, Catawba, Burke Co., NC, and many had originated from the German settlement families in old Rowan. This question probably needs some indepth digging into old court records, deeds, land transactions, etc., to more accurately determine which surname Gulhmann may have evolved to in it's anglicized translation. Charmaien Reel Ernst ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour

I found this book at the genealogical society library. I don't think it has been mentioned yet, and it might help somebody. I was working on my nieces' families. Elaine Oakes Lorena Shell Eaker (Mrs. Odis C.), German Speaking People West of the Catawba River in North Carolina 1750 - 1800, 1994, P.O. Box 2125, Church Hill, Tennessee 37642, (copy at the Genealogical Society of Old Tryon County, Forest City, North Carolina).

Dear Gary, Bill is right. I meant Jefferson Davis. He was a spy working for Jefferson Davis. A Mr. Hall wrote a book about this man & his connection to John Wilkes Booth. The freeing of the slaves affected the labor force for the raising of tobacco. a common source of money of the times. Betty Harbin Garbers. > Betty, > If your cousin Thomas reported to Thomas Jefferson (say, circa 1800) he > must have been in his 80s when he helped Booth in 1865, and then lived in > England for a while and later worked in a hotel in DC when possibly in his > 90s; is this right? Hmmm... > Best Regards, > Gary in Berkeley > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Betty H. Garbers" <bhgarbers@cox.net> > To: <rowanroots@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 6:48 AM > Subject: Re: [ROWANROOTS] Maryland Apparently > > >> Cousin Thomas Harbin was among those that helped John Wilkes Booth >> escape. >> He supposedly reported to Thomas Jefferson personally. Harbin left the >> area. Possibvly living in England for awhile. He later worked in a >> hotel >> in downtown Washington, D. C. >> >> Betty Harbin Garbers >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> E.W. Wallace wrote in part: >>> Since a good many Marylanders came to Rowan Co. which extended far to >>> the >>> west--until it came upon native Americans--perhaps colonial Maryland >>> may >>> be >>> a good place to research for that surname. >>>> >>> "Cousin" David Herold hung out with John Wilkes Booth and actually >>> guided >>> John to Dr, Mudd to get his let set after the Lincoln assination.. He >>> was >>> captured in the tobacco barn on the Garrett farm.. and later... hung out >>> with Mary Surratt and others on the scaffold in the prison yard.... in >>> Washington DC... for the last time... "Cousin" Davie is buried in the >>> Congressional Cemetery in D.C... I think he's my most Famous "Cousin"!! >>> My >>> family settled in Western NC also... GLH >>> >>> G. Lee Hearl >>> Authentic Appalachian Storyteller >>> Abingdon, Va. >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> ROWANROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ROWANROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ROWANROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

In a message dated 8/27/2007 1:57:28 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, NOINTELLG@aol.com writes: Georg Ludwig Siffert, Wendel Miller, Peter Edelmann, Johannes Steigerwalt, Phillip Grass, Peter Stirewalt, Michael Gulhmann, Christopher Bless, Leonhard Siffert, Jacob Klein, Anton Jruhn, George Heinrich Berger, Christoph Gulhmann, Johannes Rintlemann, Johannes Eckel, Bastian Lenz, Jacob Benz, George Eckel, Franz Oberkirsch, Johannes Jose, Heinrich Wenzel. Joh. Leonhardt Siefert/Siffert(Seaford/Sifford) was married to Ann Eddelman/Eddleman, d/o Bostian Eddleman. George Ludwig Siefert was Joh. Leonhardt's brother, and my 3rd great grandfather. Cathy Marin Co., CA ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour

In a message dated 8/27/2007 3:56:57 P.M. Central Daylight Time, NOINTELLG@aol.com writes: (The translation of the above is that in the 1774th year after the birth of Christ, the following members of our congregation began the so called Organ church.): Georg Ludwig Siffert, Wendel Miller, Peter Edelmann, Johannes Steigerwalt, Phillip Grass, Peter Stirewalt, Michael Gulhmann, Christopher Bless, Leonhard Siffert, Jacob Klein, Charmaine, Do you know if the above-mentioned Jacob KLEIN was a son of Daniel Little (changed to Little from Klein when he arrived in America)? Thank you. Arlene ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour

I appreciate all the help, suggestions and leads. For the record, my Jacob FRICK (a RW solider) married about 1788 evidently in Rowan County to Eva Elizabeth EARNHART (to use the more commonly found spelling) -- they had 12 children and removed to Union County, IL in 1823. My ancestor is their eldest child, a son, Henry FRICK who did not go to IL with them but married a TREECE (daughter of another RW veteran) and went first to TN and then to GA. I have many German/Swiss lines in Rowan -- my greatest interest is primarily in those that lived on the Second Creek in the 1750s-1830s. Thanks. Everyone. --Myra Vanderpool Gormley, CG