Most of the information that I have been able to find on Alexander LONG states that Alexander LONG was first married to Susanna STOKES, daughter of David and Sarah Montfort STOKES and sister to Governor Montfort STOKES. All of the information related to Susanna STOKES' parents, David and Sarah STOKES, says that they never lived in North Carolina, David STOKES died 1794 in Lunenburg, VA. Susanna's brother, Governor Montfort STOKES, he was the Governor of North Carolina and he did live in Rowan County, NC for a time. I find it highly unlikely that Susanna STOKES went to North Carolina to live when her parents never left Virginia. In fact, I found a marriage record in Lunenburg, VA for a Susanna STOKES ELLIS to Roderick GORDON on 25 Dec. 1787. I suspect that this is Susanna STOKES, daughter of David and Sarah STOKES, and she was first married to a man named ELLIS, he died sometime before 1787, and she married Roderick Gordon. I have found no marriage records for Alexander LONG in Rowan County nor anywhere else in North Carolina. All we know is that Alexander's first wife's name was Susanna and his second wife's name was Elizabeth. Was Alexander LONG's first wife Susanna ADAMS, daughter of John ADAMS and Eve SMITH? Linda Monticelli --------------------------------- Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search.

Joe, I'm sorry, but I don't know if this John Long family was related to Col. Nicholas Long of PA. According to Rev. Jethro Rumple's 1881 "A History of Rowan County, North Carolina", John Long from Lancaster County, PA and Rowan County, NC had some transactions with William and Joseph Long of Lancaster County, PA, these two may have been related in some way to him. I'm not related to the LONG'S, at least not as far as I know, I am trying to find out if the Alexander LONG of Rowan County, NC was married to Susanna ADAMS. It's Susanna ADAMS who was a sister to my 5th great grandfather John ADAMS (1752-1781). Here is what I know about the LONG family of Rowan County, John LONG was the oldest and he apparently lived in Lancaster County, PA before moving to Rowan County, NC around 1756-1758. John LONG'S wife's name was Hester, possibly Hester or Esther CATHEY. John and Hester LONG'S oldest sons name was Alexander LONG, born 16 Jan. 1758 Rowan County, NC. John LONG was apparently killed by the Indians in an expedition against a settlement in Turkey Cove, on the North Fork of the Catawba River in 1760. John LONG owned between twenty-five hundred and three thousand acres of land at the time of his death in 1760 and his eldest son Alexander LONG inherited all of his land. I have found some ship records in Strassburger's Pennsylvania German Pioneers, a few listings for John Long and some listings for Johannes Lang. I have found some information that there was a Captain John Long who was German and the original spelling of his name was "Lang" and had been anglicized to "Long". Linda Monticelli joemcdo@flash.net wrote: Linda, Are your LONG'S related to Col. Nicholas LONG from PA and was Commissary-General of N.C. in the Revolutionary War? He lived in Halifax Co. and died 19 Feb 1798 in Halifax Co., NC. Be Well Joe McDonald ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 5:28 PM Subject: Re: [ROWANROOTS] [NCROWAN] LONG, ADAMS, SCHMIDT/SMITH Families > > One of Alexander Long's daughters, Elizabeth LONG, married Alexander > FROHOCK, there does not seem to be any record?for this marriage, nor any > record of Alexander Long's two marriages, first to a Susanna and second to > an Elizabeth.? > > Two other daughters of Alexander LONG intermarried with two of Michael > BRAUN/BROWN's sons. In 1766, Michael BRAUN/BROWN (ethnic background, > German Palatine) built the "Old Stone House" in Rowan County and from what > I understand, it is now a museum house. > > > Linda Monticelli > > ________________________________________________________________________ > More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail ! - > http://webmail.aol.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ROWANROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROWANROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.

Linda, Are your LONG'S related to Col. Nicholas LONG from PA and was Commissary-General of N.C. in the Revolutionary War? He lived in Halifax Co. and died 19 Feb 1798 in Halifax Co., NC. Be Well Joe McDonald ----- Original Message ----- From: <rlmlfm@aol.com> To: <rowanroots@rootsweb.com>; <ncrowan@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 5:28 PM Subject: Re: [ROWANROOTS] [NCROWAN] LONG, ADAMS, SCHMIDT/SMITH Families > > One of Alexander Long's daughters, Elizabeth LONG, married Alexander > FROHOCK, there does not seem to be any record?for this marriage, nor any > record of Alexander Long's two marriages, first to a Susanna and second to > an Elizabeth.? > > Two other daughters of Alexander LONG intermarried with two of Michael > BRAUN/BROWN's sons. In 1766, Michael BRAUN/BROWN (ethnic background, > German Palatine) built the "Old Stone House" in Rowan County and from what > I understand, it is now a museum house. > > > Linda Monticelli > > ________________________________________________________________________ > More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail ! - > http://webmail.aol.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ROWANROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The Adams and Schmidt/Smith families in the original?post are my ancestors.? Both the Adams and the Smith's were German, I have done much research on them in both Lancaster County, PA and Rowan County, NC.? 1. Peter and Barbara Schmidt/Smith 2. Eve Schmidt/Smith m. John Adams (1729 PA-1762 NC) 3. John Adams (1752 PA-ca. 1781 NC) m. Wineford Bussell/Beffle 4. William Adams (ca. 1771 NC-1846 KY) m. Eleanor Simpson Sometime after the death of John Adams (1752-1781) his son William Adams, being the oldest male child of John Adams, deceased, inherited the 500 acres of land that his father owned.? William Adams was about 10 years of age at the time of his father's death and Alexander Long was named guardian of William Adams. I know that Susanna was the name of Alexander Long's first wife?and I am trying to?find out?what Susanna's maiden name was.? I also know that John and Eve (Smith) Adams had a daughter named Susanna who was born about 1761, making her the right age to have been Alexander's (b. 1758)?first wife.? If Alexander Long was married to Susanna Adams, that would have made him an uncle to my William Adams, which makes more sense to me to have a family member be a guardian than someone who happens to live in the same neighborhood. 27 Aug 1784. Alexander Long and wife Susanna of Salisbury, NC to George Smith, planter, 133 A both sides of the Great Road from Salisbury to Trading Ford on the Yadkin River next to John Adams, Alexander Chambers and R. Hays. >From the information that I have found on Alexander Long, it?states that his first wife was Susanna Stokes, but no one seems to have any source on how they arrived at this conclusion.? There doesn't seem to be any marriage records available for either of Alexander's two marriages and I am wondering if someone was guessing at his first wife's maiden name being Stokes and it has been copied over and over without anyone bothering to look for any kind of documentation as proof that it is fact. Linda Monticelli ________________________________________________________________________ More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail ! - http://webmail.aol.com

Could anyone tell me what Catholic churches and/or cemeteries existed in Rowan in the early & mid 1800's? I don't know that the HARBINS were Catholic but it is a possibility. Are there records available for them? Thank you. Joan Marie

Thank you for posting this link, Katherine. Yesterday I did a search on the Old Stone House and found this interesting article about the home! I hope to visit the Old Stone House museum the next time I'm in the area. Linda Monticelli KDBenbow@aol.com wrote: Yes, the Old Stone House is a museum now. I'm a descendant of Michael Braun's son James, and I thought I'd share this with you and anyone else interested: _http://www.salisburypost.com/area/333231070954276.php_ (http://www.salisburypost.com/area/333231070954276.php) Katherine Benbow **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROWANROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search.

Very interesting post, Katherine. I would certainly like to visit there one day. Thanks. Arlene **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489

Yes, the Old Stone House is a museum now. I'm a descendant of Michael Braun's son James, and I thought I'd share this with you and anyone else interested: _http://www.salisburypost.com/area/333231070954276.php_ (http://www.salisburypost.com/area/333231070954276.php) Katherine Benbow **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489

I wonder if you might get some leads from information about the Frohock family of early Rowan Co., NC? (My lineage is so full of common names that I always latch onto a friend, a neighbor, an in-law who has a less common name. Frohock is such a name.) Just to experiment I typed in google.com search terms: frohock family of north carolina There are several links which appeared, but I am not familiar with this family so I did no exploration. I suggest you do so. Perhaps these families--Poole and Frohock--knew each other in Pennsylvania and may have been of the same religion. (So see what church records are available in NC and in PA.) E.W.Wallace who does a lot of colonial research--with all its frustrations!!! **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489

This 1790 John Pool does not appear to be a Van Pool. But who is he? 1790 Rowan Census "POOL, David" 2 3 4 0 0 1101 "POOL, Jacob 2 1 4 0 0 1100 "POOL, John 1 4 3 0 0 2163 "POOL, William, Jur. 1 1 1 0 0 1528 "POOL, William" 3 1 4 0 0 1526 The top 2 are probably Van Pools. John Pool seems to not live near the others A Ctl-F search of this page, shows the neighbors if you search for each entry in the sequence MOURER, Rudy" 2 4 2 0 0 2160 MILLER, Phillip" 2 4 2 0 0 2161 MORER, Jacob" 1 0 0 0 0 2162 JOHN POOL 1 4 3 0 0 2163 PEELER, Michael" 2 2 4 0 0 2164 PHILLIPS, Jessey" 1 0 1 0 0 2165 POULES, Adam" 1 2 2 0 0 2166 RANDLEMAN, John" 3 3 4 0 2 2167 This gives the neighbors of JOHN POOL in 1790 Rowan Co. NC. Does anyone connect to this John POOL? Betty Pace -- bapace2@juno.com

One of Alexander Long's daughters, Elizabeth LONG, married Alexander FROHOCK, there does not seem to be any record?for this marriage, nor any record of Alexander Long's two marriages, first to a Susanna and second to an Elizabeth.? Two other daughters of Alexander LONG intermarried with two of Michael BRAUN/BROWN's sons. In 1766, Michael BRAUN/BROWN (ethnic background, German Palatine) built the "Old Stone House" in Rowan County and from what I understand, it is now a museum house. Linda Monticelli ________________________________________________________________________ More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail ! - http://webmail.aol.com

The header to the below posting should have read 1765 Pools. Betty Pace ----- Forwarded Message ----- From: Betty A Pace <bapace2@juno.com> To: NCROWAN-L@rootsweb.com,RowanRoots-L@rootsweb.com Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 11:40:44 -0500 Subject: Fw: 1790 Pools -- Rowan Co. NC I was told that possibly my John Pool/Poole (B.ABT.1780, d.1832) might be the son of a JOSEPH POOL, who was shown in the 1765 tax list of Rowan Co. NC. The person who suggested this was a Van Pool researcher and does not believe that the 1765 Joseph Pool was a Van Pool. I cannot find the 1765 tax list of Rowan Co. NC. Does anyone have access to it and can confirm the Pool or Poole names on the 1765 list? Betty Pace

I was told that possibly my John Pool/Poole (B.ABT.1780, d.1832) might be the son of a JOSEPH POOL, who was shown in the 1765 tax list of Rowan Co. NC. The person who suggested this was a Van Pool researcher and does not believe that the 1765 Joseph Pool was a Van Pool. I cannot find the 1765 tax list of Rowan Co. NC. Does anyone have access to it and can confirm the Pool or Poole names on the 1765 list? Betty Pace

Thank you for your help, Lolene. Yes, I am aware that German speaking people were not the only ethnic group who lived in Lancaster County, PA. It's like with my Adams family, I had always "assumed" that they were from England, but I have found enough documented evidence to prove that both my Adams (Adam in German) and Smith (Schmidt in German) families were from the German Palatinate. Good luck with your Wiseman family research. I would imagine that you have already looked into the early ship records for your oldest Wiseman ancestor. Have you checked the early church records in the state and county where your ancestors first lived when they came here? I was in Lancaster County, PA on a research trip this past summer and found a lot of information on both my Adams and Smith families. Thanks again for your help, Linda Monticelli **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489

Not all of the residents of Lancaster were of Germanic origin. I have worked on a family from Scotland who were in Lancaster, so it is not a foregone conclusion or assumption just because they were from Lancaster. My Wiseman family has a name that could be Germanic (as in Weseman or Weissman), but it's possibly not. The Wisemans were from Berks which had a strong Germanic population later.I still don't know. That's just one opinion, and not necessarily because I'm "a good researcher". Just another seeker! Lolene

I was wondering if I could possibly get some help from all of you excellent researchers on here with some speculations that I have about some of the following families and any possible connections and/or relationships they may have had with each other. Does anyone know of any connection between John LONG or his son Alexander LONG and the John and Eve SCHMIDT/SMITH ADAMS family or Eve’s father Peter SCHMIDT/SMITH? Also, does anyone know if John LONG of Rowan County, NC may have been German? According to information found in Robert W. Ramsey's "Carolina Cradle", John LONG removed to Rowan County, NC from Earl Township, Lancaster County, PA about 1757 where he purchased a 620 acre tract of land between Grant's Creek and Crane Creek. According to A history of Rowan County, North Carolina, Families living on the Yadkin River One hundred years ago, John LONG owned between 2,500 and 3,000 acres of land in Rowan County. This book also states, “Alexander LONG was probably the only child of John LONG, was born Jan. 16th 1758, and became heir to the vast area of fertile lands entered and purchased by his father.” Peter SCHMIDT/SMITH and family along with son-in-law John ADAMS, his wife Eve SCHMIDT/SMITH ADAMS, and two of their children, John ADAMS (b. 29 Jan. 1752) and probably Barbara ADAMS (b. about 1754) also removed to Rowan County, NC from Earl Township, Lancaster County, PA by 1755 when both Peter SMITH and John ADAMS show up on the 1755 Taxpayers List in Rowan County, NC. John and Eve SCHMIDT/SMITH ADAMS had three more children born in Rowan County, NC, George ADAMS (b. about 1756), Peter (B.F.) ADAMS (b. 11 Mar. 1759), and Susanna ADAMS (b. about 1761). John ADAMS was born 29 Jan. 1752 Lancaster County, PA. (Source: Pennsylvania Births, Lancaster County 1723-1777, Page 75) In the Rowan County, North Carolina, Court of Pleas and Quarter Sessions, 1768-1772 Volume 3, page 195: 9 May 1770, John Adams, 18 years and 3 months, orphan son of John Adams deceased be bound unto Paul Rodsmith for two years and nine months. Rodsmith is to teach him the art and mystery of a blacksmith. The estimate of George ADAMS birth year being about 1756 is based on the following apprentice bond for George ADAMS in 1774 when he would have been about 18 years of age and since George's older brother John ADAMS who was born in 1752 was bond as an apprentice in 1770 when he was 18 years of age. Rowan County, NC Court of Pleas and Quarter Sessions, 1773-1786, Vol. 4, p.49: 3 Nov. 1774, George Adams an Orphan be bound to James Hendricks to learn the Art and Mystery of a turner and wheelwright. Alexander LONG's, son of John LONG, first wife's given name was Susanna according to land records in Rowan County. I have not found any records giving a maiden name for Susanna LONG. What I am wondering is if Alexander Long's wife Susanna could have been John and Eve ADAMS daughter Susanna, born about 1761? Does anyone on this list know of a marriage record for Alexander Long and Susanna (?) or for Alexander and his second wife Elizabeth, possibly Elizabeth CHAPMAN? There are some who have Alexander’s first wife listed as Susanna STOKES, but they give no source for where they found this information. Note: I have found no marriage record for Alexander LONG in Rowan County, which leads me to wonder if he may have in fact been German as I suspect he was. Alexander LONG was guardian to my William ADAMS, grandson of John and Eve SMITH ADAMS and son of John and Wineford BUSSELL/BEFFLE ADAMS, after William’s father John ADAMS’ death about 1781. (Source: Petition for division of Land Feb. Court 1789 by William Adams, oldest male orphan of John Adams decd., and by his guardian, Alexander Long, saying John Adams d. 1781 intestate with 160 A adj. R. Brown, John Turner and others with his mother, Winney Smith receiving her dower interest in the property.)  If Alexander LONG was married to William’s fathers sister Susanna ADAMS, that would have made him William’s uncle by marriage.  Thank you in advance, I greatly appreciate any help that any of you has to offer. Linda Monticelli ________________________________________________________________________ More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail ! - http://webmail.aol.com

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In a message dated 1/7/2008 11:31:50 PM Eastern Standard Time, soulard2@sbcglobal.net writes: Londonderry Twp, Dauphin County, North Carolina -------------- Karen, it looks to me like you have the wrong state listed here. There never was a Dauphin County in NC. You might want to check your records and make the necessary correction. You can check the list of counties for NC here: _http://www.rootsweb.com/~nccatawb/countyfm.htm_ (http://www.rootsweb.com/~nccatawb/countyfm.htm) Katherine Benbow County Coordinator, Guilford County NCGenWeb http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncguilfo/index.html County Coordinator, Cabarrus County NCGenWeb http://www.rootsweb.com/~nccabarr/index.htm **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489

I realize this may have no bearing on this conversation but I have a Thomas Hall (Rowan County) in my Sloan family. In looking at my notes I see that Abner Davidson married Elizabeth Hall. The name caught my eye. Thought I would contribute this piece of unrelated information. Karen Carty Saint Louis 1. THOMAS2 HALL (JAMES1) was born 1739 in Londonderry Twp, Dauphin County, North Carolina, and died 18 Dec 1804 in Bethany, Iredell County, North Carolina. He married ELIZABETH SLOAN 20 Feb 1764 in Rowan County, North Carolina, daughter of FERGUS SLOAN and ANN ROBINSON. She was born 1750 in Statesville, Iredell County, North Carolina, and died 13 Jan 1831 in Bethany, Iredell County, North Carolina. Notes for THOMAS HALL: Contact: jbl@tqsi.com Copyright © 1998-2000, John B. Lisle, Burlington, MA "A major study is continuing of the Hall family or Iredell County. James Hall, Sr. came to Statesville, in what is now Iredell County about 1752. He came to America from Ireland, also of Scottish ancestry. He married Prudence Roddy in Pennsylvania. Among his children was the Rev. James Hall, Jr. who was a famous and influential Presbyterian minister and a Captain in the Revolutionary War. His brother Thomas, my ancestor, married Elizabeth Sloan, daughter of Fergus Sloan. Their daughter Prudence married William Stevenson, who was a great uncle to Adlai Stevenson who was Vice President of the United States. My great-great-great grandfather Abner Davidson married Elizabeth Hall, daughter of Fergus Hall and grand daughter of Thomas Hall." ----- Original Message ----- From: <rlmlfm@aol.com> To: <rowanroots@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 6:45 PM Subject: Re: [ROWANROOTS] Abner Hall m. Nancy Howard Hi Betty, I am sorry, I don't know who the father/parents of Abner Hall was.? You do have the county correct for this Abner Hall and Nancy Howard, they?were married in Rowan County, NC 31 Oct. 1825.? I have a Samuel Hall in my ancestry, born about 1717 in Chester County, PA and made his will 20 Feb. 1793 in Rowan County, NC, Will Book E, page 127.? He had two sons who were named in his will, Abraham (my ancestor) and George.? Abraham Hall had three sons, Isaac (my ancestor), Moses, and Abah. There was at least one other unrelated, as far as I know, Hall family in Rowan County, NC. Linda Monticelli > -----Original Message----- > From: Betty A Pace <bapace2@juno.com> > To: Hall@rootsweb.com > Cc: NCGUILFO-L@rootsweb.com; RowanRoots-L@rootsweb.com; NCROWAN-L@rootsweb.com > Sent: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 2:38 pm > Subject: [ROWANROOTS] Abner Hall m. Nancy Howard > > > > > I am interesting in knowing the father/parents of this ABNER HALL. > I have been told that the below date and perhaps county is not > correct--may be Guilford Co. NC. > > Abner Hall m. Nancy Howard 31 Oct 1825 Rowan Co. > NC > > Betty Pace -- bapace2@juno.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROWANROOTS-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of > the message > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail ! - http://webmail.aol.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROWANROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Betty, I am sorry, I don't know who the father/parents of Abner Hall was.? You do have the county correct for this Abner Hall and Nancy Howard, they?were married in Rowan County, NC 31 Oct. 1825.? I have a Samuel Hall in my ancestry, born about 1717 in Chester County, PA and made his will 20 Feb. 1793 in Rowan County, NC, Will Book E, page 127.? He had two sons who were named in his will, Abraham (my ancestor) and George.? Abraham Hall had three sons, Isaac (my ancestor), Moses, and Abah. There was at least one other unrelated, as far as I know, Hall family in Rowan County, NC. Linda Monticelli -----Original Message----- From: Betty A Pace <bapace2@juno.com> To: Hall@rootsweb.com Cc: NCGUILFO-L@rootsweb.com; RowanRoots-L@rootsweb.com; NCROWAN-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 2:38 pm Subject: [ROWANROOTS] Abner Hall m. Nancy Howard I am interesting in knowing the father/parents of this ABNER HALL. I have been told that the below date and perhaps county is not correct--may be Guilford Co. NC. Abner Hall m. Nancy Howard 31 Oct 1825 Rowan Co. NC Betty Pace -- bapace2@juno.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROWANROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ________________________________________________________________________ More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail ! - http://webmail.aol.com